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Happening Now: Livestream of Demonstration in Montreal - GASED and Lots of Riot Police

 
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who the hell ever decided it was legal to sink students deep in debt to get an education in the first place

its always been stupid

and everything is overpriced on this planet not only tuition fees

the entire system is stupid

this whole planet needs overhaul
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6 months ago I was protesting in the streets to stop that 75% hike in tuition fees + that stupid bill 78. We won after more then 100 days of demonstration. Day and night.

Liberal governement was then replaced by the Parti Quebecois (one of Quebec's separatist party). Now the PQ said the indexation would be a better choice. Instead of 75%, it's only 3% which I think isn't too bad. But the students are now protesting to gain Free Education. I like the idea, but I'm not too sure what to think about it...

Hope it won't degenerate. Remeber Montreal Police state 2012? Thread: MONTREAL POLICE STATE 2012 (With video) Must Watch!!!
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I believe that every person should be able to get a free education. To whatever degree they are able to be successful. It would appear that the more education a person has, the more taxes they would be paying to the government, so in effect the government would be making an investment in that person. Not to mention the gains to society in general. When the cost is so high that people can't afford it without putting themselves in debt for at least half of their life, The message appears to be "We know you'll never get a decent job, no matter how smart you are, or how much education you have, so just give us our money up front."
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Here is the first video. The protest was peaceful and then we are charged by police on horseback @2:30, as the police attempt to disperse the crowd. The demonstrators regroup and force the police lines back @4:00, followed by a second charge @4:50.

(Warning: turn down your volume, its loud and poor sound quality. And shaky because I am trying to assess the situation as I record).
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Perhaps if we stopped buying over priced fighter jets and started cutting tenure costs in university's we could make it affordable for ALL.

The next time you hear "We have all sorts of skilled jobs" you can tell them about the free educations other nations are offering.
I think it is a ploy to open up our borders to immigrants that will vote for the ruling party.

There is no reason post secondary education should break the bank of the average family,while the jobs go to the people that got their education for free.
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Very violent confrontations as police continued to try to disperse the crowd.



Quick summary:

Batons come out @2:20
Charge @3:50
Flashbombs @4:00,5:55,6:30
Arrests @6:50
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Nothing to see..

Just poooor kid with their new iphone begging for free money.


Stupid kid..
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Too many BS degrees now. The system has been watered down too much. Now they are just badges to show you can fund your way through 3 or 4 years without a real job. Universities are dead anyway, and they know it, the future is online... and yes, there are no jobs anyway, better to learn trades to serve our banking and politcal elite. gaah
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6 months ago I was protesting in the streets to stop that 75% hike in tuition fees + that stupid bill 78. We won after more then 100 days of demonstration. Day and night.

Liberal governement was then replaced by the Parti Quebecois (one of Quebec's separatist party). Now the PQ said the indexation would be a better choice. Instead of 75%, it's only 3% which I think isn't too bad. But the students are now protesting to gain Free Education. I like the idea, but I'm not too sure what to think about it...

Hope it won't degenerate. Remeber Montreal Police state 2012? Thread: MONTREAL POLICE STATE 2012 (With video) Must Watch!!!
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What happened to all the video?
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printemps erable 2! ostie de colisse de tabarnak!

it worked once why not try again!
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Fuck those faggot students....already cheapest place to study in Canada.
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^^ THIS!
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THIS.

All the protesting around the world means something.

Canadian protesters are just pro NWO jackasses who want free shit.

Ive met tons of occupy losers in Canada. They have no idea their bringing down this great country and supporting communism.

I wish I was American.
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printemps erable 2! ostie de colisse de tabarnak!

it worked once why not try again!
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Fuck those faggot students....already cheapest place to study in Canada.
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^^ THIS!
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THIS.

All the protesting around the world means something.

Canadian protesters are just pro NWO jackasses who want free shit.

Ive met tons of occupy losers in Canada. They have no idea their bringing down this great country and supporting communism.

I wish I was American.
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I wish you were too.

Free shit my ass. Fill Canadian jobs with Canadians FIRST!!!

Maybe you can explain why other counties can give a free education and one of the wealthiest countries cannot?
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City of Mary

Maybe this is a message of a different kind which has nothing to do with tuition costs

The children of the City of Mary have been restless 2 years running now

Something to think about
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City of Mary

Maybe this is a message of a different kind which has nothing to do with tuition costs

The children of the City of Mary have been restless 2 years running now

Something to think about
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No.
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Videos of the demonstrators being chased throughout the downtown by the SPVM.



Charges @1:30, 1:50, 4:10



The charge against the peaceful student demonstrators continues throughout this video.
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The Habs are winning this year. Lots of Algerian goatfuckers in Montreal. Must be them.
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Like ive said before, GO MONTREAL POLICE. TAKE THESE FUCKING USELESS BEGGING CHILDREN OFF THE STREETS CONSIDERING THERE ARE STUDENTS THAT WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL AND THESE FUCKERS FUCK IT UP FOR EVERYONE. Like honestly they cant afford 70 dollars more? pff FUCK EM UP PIGS!
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The students are mad because some politician in Quebec told them they " WOULD NOT " raise tuition fee's.

Politician >>>>> Pauline Marois said that after all the fuss last year tuition's in Quebec would not be raised. Then the government immediately raised them $70.

Typical government lie. Happens all the time.
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The students are mad because some politician in Quebec told them they " WOULD NOT " raise tuition fee's.

Politician >>>>> Pauline Marois said that after all the fuss last year tuition's in Quebec would not be raised. Then the government immediately raised them $70.

Typical government lie. Happens all the time.
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This isn't a raise, it's an indexation. They never hide the fact the would like an indexation instead of a tuition fee raise to 75% like the last Liberal governement wanted...
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The students are mad because some politician in Quebec told them they " WOULD NOT " raise tuition fee's.

Politician >>>>> Pauline Marois said that after all the fuss last year tuition's in Quebec would not be raised. Then the government immediately raised them $70.

Typical government lie. Happens all the time.
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This isn't a raise, it's an indexation. They never hide the fact the would like an indexation instead of a tuition fee raise to 75% like the last Liberal governement wanted...
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Indexation is just a cash grab,teachers teach what they know so why index it?

Most in the EU provide free post school education for their own citizens (who are resident) and those of other EU countries.

Scotland also provides free tuition, but the rest of the UK does not.

I hope you have a good claim to the citizenship of one of the countries in the EU, because you cannot just apply for it and get it!

By the way you also have to be resident in the country first, for a qualifying period to get your fees free. Citizenship is not enough.


Canada would make it back in spades if they gave it free.
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Too many BS degrees now. The system has been watered down too much. Now they are just badges to show you can fund your way through 3 or 4 years without a real job. Universities are dead anyway, and they know it, the future is online... and yes, there are no jobs anyway, better to learn trades to serve our banking and politcal elite. gaah
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you know they've only dispersed liberal crowds in america. never a conservative crowd. know why? we outgun the police. we outgun swat. we outgun the national guard. we outgun the military. mad libtards?
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they don't disperse/attack so-called conservatives because you all are on the same side as the police and never protest - your little gun grab bullshit nowithstandding
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The students are mad because some politician in Quebec told them they " WOULD NOT " raise tuition fee's.

Politician >>>>> Pauline Marois said that after all the fuss last year tuition's in Quebec would not be raised. Then the government immediately raised them $70.

Typical government lie. Happens all the time.
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This isn't a raise, it's an indexation. They never hide the fact the would like an indexation instead of a tuition fee raise to 75% like the last Liberal governement wanted...
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Indexation is just a cash grab,teachers teach what they know so why index it?

Most in the EU provide free post school education for their own citizens (who are resident) and those of other EU countries.

Scotland also provides free tuition, but the rest of the UK does not.

I hope you have a good claim to the citizenship of one of the countries in the EU, because you cannot just apply for it and get it!

By the way you also have to be resident in the country first, for a qualifying period to get your fees free. Citizenship is not enough.


Canada would make it back in spades if they gave it free.
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Because of Quebec's current economical situation, free education can't be achieved right now. But the government said it could be possible in the years to come. Not right now. Remember Pauline Marois government just replaced the liberal party. They found so many irregularities in the budget and now the PQ has to take decisions.

Indexation is a compromise.
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The students are mad because some politician in Quebec told them they " WOULD NOT " raise tuition fee's.

Politician >>>>> Pauline Marois said that after all the fuss last year tuition's in Quebec would not be raised. Then the government immediately raised them $70.

Typical government lie. Happens all the time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35235503


This isn't a raise, it's an indexation. They never hide the fact the would like an indexation instead of a tuition fee raise to 75% like the last Liberal governement wanted...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 261846


Indexation is just a cash grab,teachers teach what they know so why index it?

Most in the EU provide free post school education for their own citizens (who are resident) and those of other EU countries.

Scotland also provides free tuition, but the rest of the UK does not.

I hope you have a good claim to the citizenship of one of the countries in the EU, because you cannot just apply for it and get it!

By the way you also have to be resident in the country first, for a qualifying period to get your fees free. Citizenship is not enough.


Canada would make it back in spades if they gave it free.
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Right. There are big picture issues here.

I traveled throughout the US this summer and most of the students I spoke with had no idea the difference in the tuition prices they were paying (often 50000$/yr) compared to what students in Europe, Quebec, Canada pay.

I have been a prof at a Canadian University and have seen first hand how many students suffer because we do not have equal access to education. And there are many more young people who can not get access to higher education in any form. This is huge a problem. It's great to see the students and residents of Montreal speaking out and working collectively towards more sustainable solutions.

The second big issue that these protests shed light on is the extreme use of police force used against peaceful and unarmed protestors. This is political suppression, and the suppression tactics we see here are very similar to those faced by demonstrators, people, the world over.

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what are they pissed about?
or is this just a generic freak out?
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Legislation that will rise the costs and reduce the access to quality education and universities.
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And fucking good on that, These protestors can kiss my fucking ass, This is one protesxt that im on the pigs side for. These fucking useless montreal kids are crying over increased cost of education there, AND YET they pay the LEAST out of anywhere in Canada. What makes them so fucking special, other then their insane feelings of superiority, lets not mention the fact that most people in montreal want to break away from canada completely. Sorry guys but go pigs go on this one. these kids dont deserve shit when i am a student and i dont even get as much as they do. Piss poor performance by montreals youth today.
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Because they pay twice as much taxes as you? The tuition fees are small but they are funded by the taxes.

Fact: Quebec has the highest tax rate in North America
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The students are mad because some politician in Quebec told them they " WOULD NOT " raise tuition fee's.

Politician >>>>> Pauline Marois said that after all the fuss last year tuition's in Quebec would not be raised. Then the government immediately raised them $70.

Typical government lie. Happens all the time.
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This isn't a raise, it's an indexation. They never hide the fact the would like an indexation instead of a tuition fee raise to 75% like the last Liberal governement wanted...
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No, technically speaking this is a raise.
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what are they pissed about?
or is this just a generic freak out?
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Legislation that will rise the costs and reduce the access to quality education and universities.
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And fucking good on that, These protesters can kiss my fucking ass, This is one protest that im on the pigs side for. These fucking useless Montreal kids are crying over increased cost of education there, AND YET they pay the LEAST out of anywhere in Canada. What makes them so fucking special, other then their insane feelings of superiority, lets not mention the fact that most people in Montreal want to break away from Canada completely. Sorry guys but go pigs go on this one. these kids don't deserve shit when i am a student and i don't even get as much as they do. Piss poor performance by Montreal youth today.
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You suffer Canadian herd mentality, you are willing to bury your head in the sand as education costs soar, you are the reason tptb screw you sans lube.

I was denied Post secondary due to my socioeconomic status, and I had to work my ass off like a good little slave to save to go to trade school. That's all in the past just after many grants, and incentives were taken away, I did it, and have no sense of entitlement, but I tell you what Canadas NATURAL resources could pay for all school, medical, and infrastructure, but we the people prefer to let multinationals profit from EVERYTHING even your poo yes you pay every time you poo! Look into it you f^cking slave!
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Lots of good coverage trickling out

Here is a video of some pepperspraying


And a video with pics and views of the scale of the demo.


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And some MSM coverage

[link to www.montrealgazette.com] (local)

[link to www.theglobeandmail.com]

[link to www2.macleans.ca]

" Hours after Quebec Premier Pauline Marois declared that student unrest is “behind us,” thousands of protesters took to the streets of Montreal to denounce a planned three-per-cent tuition fee hike.

At least 10 arrests were made"

Read more: [link to www.ctvnews.ca]
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And more videos showing the aggressive dispersal tactics.



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