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BREAKING NEWS --- Mars to be hit by massive comet! 40 billion nuke bomb size explosion! CONFIRMED!

 
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No, that's not how it works. We don't have enough astrometric data to know one way or the other yet. Sorry.
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well, it sounds to me like you've got bricks for brains.
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It doesn't matter how incrediby big and/or fast a computer is, the results of its calculations are only as good as the data going in. The current uncertainties in the data (such as the position and speed of the comet) are such that it cannot be definitely determined if it will hit Mars. More data (and more accurate data) will shrink the error bars and give us a more exact answer.
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Bingo. Thank you, you get it.
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How much water is in the comet?

[link to ga.water.usgs.gov]
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No, that's not how it works. We don't have enough astrometric data to know one way or the other yet. Sorry.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


well, it sounds to me like you've got bricks for brains.
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese


It doesn't matter how incrediby big and/or fast a computer is, the results of its calculations are only as good as the data going in. The current uncertainties in the data (such as the position and speed of the comet) are such that it cannot be definitely determined if it will hit Mars. More data (and more accurate data) will shrink the error bars and give us a more exact answer.
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duhhhhhh,

that's what i've been saying, dumbo.

... and once they get all the data they need, then they
will need a super-computer to crunch all the numbers
in order to get the precise information that they need.
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No, that's not how it works. We don't have enough astrometric data to know one way or the other yet. Sorry.
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well, it sounds to me like you've got bricks for brains.
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese


It doesn't matter how incrediby big and/or fast a computer is, the results of its calculations are only as good as the data going in. The current uncertainties in the data (such as the position and speed of the comet) are such that it cannot be definitely determined if it will hit Mars. More data (and more accurate data) will shrink the error bars and give us a more exact answer.
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duhhhhhh,

that's what i've been saying, dumbo.

... and once they get all the data they need, then they
will need a super-computer to crunch all the numbers
in order to get the precise information that they need.
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You can solve for the orbit on a desktop PC. It doesn't take a supercomputer.
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...


well, it sounds to me like you've got bricks for brains.
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese


It doesn't matter how incrediby big and/or fast a computer is, the results of its calculations are only as good as the data going in. The current uncertainties in the data (such as the position and speed of the comet) are such that it cannot be definitely determined if it will hit Mars. More data (and more accurate data) will shrink the error bars and give us a more exact answer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17989851


duhhhhhh,

that's what i've been saying, dumbo.

... and once they get all the data they need, then they
will need a super-computer to crunch all the numbers
in order to get the precise information that they need.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225

You can solve for the orbit on a desktop PC. It doesn't take a supercomputer.
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yeh, to get a high school physics First Approximation, i
suppose that would be true.

we need to determine if these 2 bodies are going to coincide
in time and space somewheres around Oct 17 2014.
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It doesn't matter how incrediby big and/or fast a computer is, the results of its calculations are only as good as the data going in. The current uncertainties in the data (such as the position and speed of the comet) are such that it cannot be definitely determined if it will hit Mars. More data (and more accurate data) will shrink the error bars and give us a more exact answer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17989851


duhhhhhh,

that's what i've been saying, dumbo.

... and once they get all the data they need, then they
will need a super-computer to crunch all the numbers
in order to get the precise information that they need.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225

You can solve for the orbit on a desktop PC. It doesn't take a supercomputer.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


yeh, to get a high school physics First Approximation, i
suppose that would be true.

we need to determine if these 2 bodies are going to coincide
in time and space somewheres around Oct 17 2014.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225


A 2-body solution would be a first approximation, but you can go far beyond that on a modern desktop PC.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS --- Mars to be hit by massive comet! 40 billion nuke bomb size explosion! CONFIRMED!
here is an accurate thumbnail sketch of what will
happen in October 2014 (Mars and Comet)

[link to www.planetary.org]
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That is a 2-body solution. You must have missed the part where it said,
"The applet was implemented using 2-body methods, and hence should not be used for determining accurate long-term trajectories (over several years or decades) or planetary encounter circumstances."
Anyway. New info:
[link to spaceobs.org]
The nominal orbit for the close approach of the comet is getting closer to Mars. More than twice as close as the current nominal orbit computed by JPL using astrometric data up to the 20th.
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here is an accurate thumbnail sketch of what will
happen in October 2014 (Mars and Comet)

[link to www.planetary.org]
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese


That is a 2-body solution. You must have missed the part where it said,
"The applet was implemented using 2-body methods, and hence should not be used for determining accurate long-term trajectories (over several years or decades) or planetary encounter circumstances."
Anyway. New info:
[link to spaceobs.org]
The nominal orbit for the close approach of the comet is getting closer to Mars. More than twice as close as the current nominal orbit computed by JPL using astrometric data up to the 20th.
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i said it is a "thumbnail sketch", douchebag.
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Actually, you said *accurate* thumbnail sketch. "Accurate" states a level of accuracy that "should not be used for determining accurate long-term trajectories (over several years or decades) or planetary encounter circumstances" explicitly does not.
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we can only presume that, even as we speak, Russia and the U.S.
are frantically working behind the scenes to launch a space probe with the 50 megaton Tzar Bomba onboard, to intercept C/2013 A1,
and blast it out of the sky before it hits Mars.
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we can only presume that, even as we speak, Russia and the U.S.
are frantically working behind the scenes to launch a space probe with the 50 megaton Tzar Bomba onboard, to intercept C/2013 A1,
and blast it out of the sky before it hits Mars.
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we can only presume that, even as we speak, Russia and the U.S.
are frantically working behind the scenes to launch a space probe with the 50 megaton Tzar Bomba onboard, to intercept C/2013 A1,
and blast it out of the sky before it hits Mars.
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Why?


I'm a n00b to this.....seriously why?

Are they afraid debris from the impact can wind up in Earth's orbit?

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this has all the potential of being utter
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This would CREAT a temporary second SUN for us. Perhaps this is the comet Nostradamus predicted. And so close to the Myan prediction too, just off by a year or 2. WOW. This would cause huge weather changes for earth, because of the energy from the blast would eventually hit earth. It would potentially heat our planet. Making it very hot on the surface of the Earth? Nostradamus predict 2 suns....
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Well it does make sense, after all, Mars is the planet of war. With Mars dissapearing, there will be peace on Earth, and no more wars. God works in mysterious ways. It also makes sense now, why the Sun would rise from the west, maybe because the Earth will take on a new orbit in space.
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The core of the comet will be moving 56 kilometers per sec when it smashes into Mars. The explosion it creates will be equal to 40 BILLION 500kt nuclear bombs(avg US and Russ arsenal weapon) going off at once, or 20 billion megatons of TNT, or 1.33 trillion Hiroshima bombs, or 1.3 billion Castle Bravo explosions. Its enough to kill all life on the planet if any were living there.

Astronomers predict a large-scale disaster on the Red Planet in October 2014, when a comet may ram into Mars, creating a 500-kilometer crater, the website of the Russian observatory ISON-NM said.
[link to english.pravda.ru]


comet core 30 miles across
collision speed 35 miles per second (126,000 miles per hour)

It may make Mars temporarily as bright as the sun. The crater left behind will be 500 kilometers across. A lot of rock will be ejected into space and become stray asteroids. This will be an epic event.
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Anyone else thinking two suns?
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Plus, such an event would create the perfect stage for the second coming of Jesus. A new planet Earth, with a new calender and all.
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we can only presume that, even as we speak, Russia and the U.S.
are frantically working behind the scenes to launch a space probe with the 50 megaton Tzar Bomba onboard, to intercept C/2013 A1,
and blast it out of the sky before it hits Mars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225


Why?


I'm a n00b to this.....seriously why?

Are they afraid debris from the impact can wind up in Earth's orbit?
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


my theory is that this MASS, moving at 120,000 miles per hour,
will be enough to split Mars into pieces, just like a
water melon hitting a brick wall. and, that the pieces
will fly all over the place leaving that whole region with *no more Mars*,
and that the loss of Mars as a planet will catastrophically
disrupt our Earth's orbit, causing an ELE event and TEOTWAWKI, and probably end up making the Earth a moon of Venus.
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese

First of all, it isn't nearly powerful enough to split the planet.

Second, even if it was, the gravity of all the pieces would congeal it back together again.
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Plus, such an event would create the perfect stage for the second coming of Jesus. A new planet Earth, with a new calender and all.
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Ahhhh........NO
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The Myans where right after all, just off by 1.9 years. Nostradumus was also right...second sun, comet...etc!

Time to get ready for this MOMO. Dec 21, 2012, has now been comfirmed as November 2014!!!!
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we can only presume that, even as we speak, Russia and the U.S.
are frantically working behind the scenes to launch a space probe with the 50 megaton Tzar Bomba onboard, to intercept C/2013 A1,
and blast it out of the sky before it hits Mars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225


Why?


I'm a n00b to this.....seriously why?

Are they afraid debris from the impact can wind up in Earth's orbit?
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


my theory is that this MASS, moving at 120,000 miles per hour,
will be enough to split Mars into pieces, just like a
water melon hitting a brick wall. and, that the pieces
will fly all over the place leaving that whole region with *no more Mars*,
and that the loss of Mars as a planet will catastrophically
disrupt our Earth's orbit, causing an ELE event and TEOTWAWKI, and probably end up making the Earth a moon of Venus.
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese

First of all, it isn't nearly powerful enough to split the planet.

Second, even if it was, the gravity of all the pieces would congeal it back together again.
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Suzy has an interesting combination of arrogance and ignorance.
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Who confirmed this? Was it OP's uncle or was it Hagel and Valugua?
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we can only presume that, even as we speak, Russia and the U.S.
are frantically working behind the scenes to launch a space probe with the 50 megaton Tzar Bomba onboard, to intercept C/2013 A1,
and blast it out of the sky before it hits Mars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225


Why?


I'm a n00b to this.....seriously why?

Are they afraid debris from the impact can wind up in Earth's orbit?
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


my theory is that this MASS, moving at 120,000 miles per hour,
will be enough to split Mars into pieces, just like a
water melon hitting a brick wall. and, that the pieces
will fly all over the place leaving that whole region with *no more Mars*,
and that the loss of Mars as a planet will catastrophically
disrupt our Earth's orbit, causing an ELE event and TEOTWAWKI, and probably end up making the Earth a moon of Venus.
 Quoting: Suzy Creamcheese

That's not a theory. Without some supporting arguments, such as some validated/validatable explanation of Mars' breaking point, what you have here is nothing more than fiction.

In your watermelon vs. brick wall scenario, it's far more likely that Mars is the brick wall and the asteroid is the watermelon.

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The core of the comet will be moving 56 kilometers per sec when it smashes into Mars. The explosion it creates will be equal to 40 BILLION 500kt nuclear bombs(avg US and Russ arsenal weapon) going off at once, or 20 billion megatons of TNT, or 1.33 trillion Hiroshima bombs, or 1.3 billion Castle Bravo explosions. Its enough to kill all life on the planet if any were living there.

Astronomers predict a large-scale disaster on the Red Planet in October 2014, when a comet may ram into Mars, creating a 500-kilometer crater, the website of the Russian observatory ISON-NM said.
[link to english.pravda.ru]


comet core 30 miles across
collision speed 35 miles per second (126,000 miles per hour)

It may make Mars temporarily as bright as the sun. The crater left behind will be 500 kilometers across. A lot of rock will be ejected into space and become stray asteroids. This will be an epic event.
 Quoting: Dr. Ho Doan 34464973


Humans make up your minds. Forty plus years before you were crying about Mars' core is not moving, its atmosphere is too thin and the polar caps has all the frozen water or permafrost. Anyways, Mars is farther from the sun and it will cool down faster. Get a grip!
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Dr. Astro. Good work. Not sure if you have mentioned this before but if this Comet hits Mars, and creates fragments leaving its orbit, would these Mars fragments (meteors), potentially impact Earth? How long would it possibly take if a large couple of fragments break off of Mars, and head to Earth? Is this possible? Thanks





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