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I AM Lucifer

 
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One thing to say only - Lucifer is not Satan.
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yes he is
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Thank you,now I have to say more than just one thing.

Lay out your evidences and I will play.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I have some long dissertations on the subject on other threads. I will send you what I have if you are interested in IM. I will respond by tomorrow. My post above on this page is a tidbit of the information.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


It's cool,do as you please - I have no horse in the race : )

But I will quickly show this - Lucifer Etymology(not the best example)

'Old English Lucifer "Satan," also "morning star," from Latin Lucifer "morning star," literally "light-bringing," from lux (genitive lucis) "light" (see light (n.)) + ferre "carry" (see infer).

Belief that it was the proper name of Satan began with its use in Bible to translate Greek Phosphoros, which translates Hebrew Helel ben Shahar in Isaiah xiv:12 -- "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" [KJV] Because of the mention of a fall from Heaven, the verse was interpreted by Christians as a reference to Satan, even though it is literally a reference to the King of Babylon (cf. Isaiah xiv:4)
' [link to www.etymonline.com]

And -

'It may come as a surprise to many Christians that to the Jews and New Testament Christians there was no such person as Lucifer. To many Christians Lucifer is equivalent to Satan, the devil. How could it be that the Jews knew nothing of Lucifer, we find it clearly printed in our King James Bible in Isaiah 14. But then again it is not found in most contempary language versions. With the curiously notable exception of the New King James Version.

As way of introduction here is what The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia has to say about Lucifer:

Lucifer, the rendering of the Vulgate for the Hebrew phrase helal ("day-star") in Isa. 14:12; the verse is rendered in the Authorized Version as: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" The passage in question is a song of derision over the downfall of a Babylonian king; the figure used may trace back to a Hebrew or Babylonian astral myth like the Greek story of Phaethon, in which the day-star is cast out of heaven because of presumption. The term Lucifer is never used in Jewish legend; but Christian writers identified Lucifer with Satan who, according to the gospels (Luke 10:18), fell from heaven like lighting; accordingly, Lucifer became one of the terms for the devil in Christian theology. (Page 229)

Most Christians do realize that Jerome used the word in his Latin Vulgate Bible prepared sometime toward the latter half of the 4th century. But unfortunately that's about the sum total of their knowledge of the history of the word. Because tradition has for so long said that Lucifer is Satan, they do not question the word or concept any further. But where did this tradition come from, and why considering the many references to Satan in the New Testament did not the concept of Lucifer ever come up.

It is not to Jerome, however that we owe the teaching of Lucifer but to that most creative of theologians, Origen. (185-254 A.D.) It was he who first made the new connection between Satan and Lucifer. He brought together diverse Old Testament references from Job, Ezekiel and Isaiah. Arguing that Lucifer, the Prince of Tyre, and the Leviathan of Job, were all identical with the Devil. He used these texts to emphasize Satan's pride and his fall from heaven.

With the aid of Tertullian (155-After 220 A.D.) who taught that before Satan's fall he was not only an angel but the foremost angel. It is mainly to these three theologians, Origen, Tertullian, and Jerome that we derive the Lucifer myth. It should also be noted that the Lucifer myth can also be found in the Psedepigrapha in the book The Secrets of Enoch. But since it is currently felt that The Secrets of Enoch is likely a seventh century document (at least in its present form), therefor it is probably not the source of this Lucifer myth. ( I will for now refer to the idea that Lucifer is Satan as the Lucifer myth, hopefully by the end of the article you will agree that it is indeed a myth
.) ' [link to newprotestants.com]

And 'Is Lucifer actually a reference to Adam?' - [link to www.godfire.net] ?

sunhf
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is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Fuck Lucifer, I got something for him bushpunch
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You are just some guy on glp.

Unless you can riddle me this - what was creation like when it was created?
Tell me the story, if you can recall, you should be able to.
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yes he is
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


Thank you,now I have to say more than just one thing.

Lay out your evidences and I will play.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I have some long dissertations on the subject on other threads. I will send you what I have if you are interested in IM. I will respond by tomorrow. My post above on this page is a tidbit of the information.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


It's cool,do as you please - I have no horse in the race : )

But I will quickly show this - Lucifer Etymology(not the best example)

'Old English Lucifer "Satan," also "morning star," from Latin Lucifer "morning star," literally "light-bringing," from lux (genitive lucis) "light" (see light (n.)) + ferre "carry" (see infer).

Belief that it was the proper name of Satan began with its use in Bible to translate Greek Phosphoros, which translates Hebrew Helel ben Shahar in Isaiah xiv:12 -- "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" [KJV] Because of the mention of a fall from Heaven, the verse was interpreted by Christians as a reference to Satan, even though it is literally a reference to the King of Babylon (cf. Isaiah xiv:4)
' [link to www.etymonline.com]

And -

'It may come as a surprise to many Christians that to the Jews and New Testament Christians there was no such person as Lucifer. To many Christians Lucifer is equivalent to Satan, the devil. How could it be that the Jews knew nothing of Lucifer, we find it clearly printed in our King James Bible in Isaiah 14. But then again it is not found in most contempary language versions. With the curiously notable exception of the New King James Version.

As way of introduction here is what The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia has to say about Lucifer:

Lucifer, the rendering of the Vulgate for the Hebrew phrase helal ("day-star") in Isa. 14:12; the verse is rendered in the Authorized Version as: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" The passage in question is a song of derision over the downfall of a Babylonian king; the figure used may trace back to a Hebrew or Babylonian astral myth like the Greek story of Phaethon, in which the day-star is cast out of heaven because of presumption. The term Lucifer is never used in Jewish legend; but Christian writers identified Lucifer with Satan who, according to the gospels (Luke 10:18), fell from heaven like lighting; accordingly, Lucifer became one of the terms for the devil in Christian theology. (Page 229)

Most Christians do realize that Jerome used the word in his Latin Vulgate Bible prepared sometime toward the latter half of the 4th century. But unfortunately that's about the sum total of their knowledge of the history of the word. Because tradition has for so long said that Lucifer is Satan, they do not question the word or concept any further. But where did this tradition come from, and why considering the many references to Satan in the New Testament did not the concept of Lucifer ever come up.

It is not to Jerome, however that we owe the teaching of Lucifer but to that most creative of theologians, Origen. (185-254 A.D.) It was he who first made the new connection between Satan and Lucifer. He brought together diverse Old Testament references from Job, Ezekiel and Isaiah. Arguing that Lucifer, the Prince of Tyre, and the Leviathan of Job, were all identical with the Devil. He used these texts to emphasize Satan's pride and his fall from heaven.

With the aid of Tertullian (155-After 220 A.D.) who taught that before Satan's fall he was not only an angel but the foremost angel. It is mainly to these three theologians, Origen, Tertullian, and Jerome that we derive the Lucifer myth. It should also be noted that the Lucifer myth can also be found in the Psedepigrapha in the book The Secrets of Enoch. But since it is currently felt that The Secrets of Enoch is likely a seventh century document (at least in its present form), therefor it is probably not the source of this Lucifer myth. ( I will for now refer to the idea that Lucifer is Satan as the Lucifer myth, hopefully by the end of the article you will agree that it is indeed a myth
.) ' [link to newprotestants.com]

And 'Is Lucifer actually a reference to Adam?' - [link to www.godfire.net] ?


Here's what we know about satan. he is a demon of many names. he masquerades in light as an angel.

Nowhere in scripture is Christ referred to as lucifer. If Christ is the truth, the light, and the way then anything else cannot be.

I have yet to see anyone that holds lucifer in high regard consider Jesus Christ as their Savior. Instead they deny him which in John makes that person an antichrist.

Take a look at the teachings of albert pike and freemasonry. Alot of that garbage has its roots in the lost tribe of Dan which forsook the one true God to worship Baal. We know there was a temple to pan/baal at Caesar Philippi, and this is where Peter declared that Jesus was the Son of the living God by knowing it through the spirit.

From Dan, the false merovingian line arose, and there is not one redeeming value in the whole lot of them. For that matter you can't find anything redeeming in value for Babylon or any of its kings. If it is not for the one true God and his Son, then its concepts are lost and dark and part of the illusion created by satan. lucifer is no different. So spiritually who would be the guiding force behind Babylon?

Every single one of the people who follow lucifer have a beast false god (baphomet) involved which is consistent with the roots of Dan and the baal/ pan half man/ half beast false god. We also know the antichrist is called the beast. So what ever is of this ilk is of the antichrist.

The tie ins of the 33rd parallel and the 33rd degree give big hints to the nature of freemasonry and its dark intentions. A third of the stars in heaven were swept to earth by the dragon's tail according to Revelation. It states in the Lord's Prayer "Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven." so, this place is a mirror image of Heaven is it not particularly when you consider the billions of times it has been prayed? So to what degree has this manifested on earth? If the third are swept to earth, then how many are awake and in flesh entities knowing full well there fallen nature?
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The bloodline of cain is damned. lucifer is the false bearer of light and a spiritual moon.
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How so when Lucifer is phosphorus that is in all nature and withing every cell membrane of our bodies meaning you and I and everyone else. What you think is evil is the light that gives us life that is hidden within you.

Phosphorus is the philosopher’s stone that is the central symbol of alchemy, symbolizing the light within our DNA and in nature. Without phosphorus, there would be no thought or wisdom. This is the atom that fires our blood to produce chemical energy, consciousness, creativity and life. It is the Fiat Lux of all nature.

Know Thyself and You Will Know God.

Baphomet Luke Br
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior


lucifer is the one controlling reformation of light in temptation and the creation of a false time matrix and a flesh entity that doesn't know its eternal name. The spiritual moon is the reflection of the light.

The name you have here is false and not in the Book of Life. Know Christ and you will know yourself through a rebirth in water and spirit.

baphomet is the connection of man to a fifth level consciousness where the seed of eve was to take the man/beast spirit of cain and this final age would usher in the antichrist beast with the rape of a woman by the true antichrist (who is now dead) in bohemian grove back in the early 1960s. He will assume the body of the mortally wounded one. Bohemian Grove in sonoma county . Hacked satanic name for the cut of "The Son of Man" and the meaning is valley of the moon. You are literally playing with fire in your approach OP.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


OK, I AM Jesus, the morning star...

Phoenix Christ

Now, do I get in heaven?

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One thing to say only - Lucifer is not Satan.
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Who me? The Queen of Hell? NOT in a million light years.

Then I would be pulling the wool of my veil over your eyes so you live in darkness and trying to screw your avatar rather than illuminating your life with my posts on Godlike.
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior


chuckle

Queen of Hell...oh man...that's real nice...whatever :P

hf
 Quoting: Spirit666


To the Greeks, Isis is known as the goddess with ten thousand names.

Isis declares, “I am Isis, the great Goddess, the Mistress of Magic, the Speaker of Spells,” and on monuments “I am in the constellation of the Dog.”

The husband of Isis was Osiris and her symbol as the moon was called the wife of the sun. Another name for Osiris was Rho-t-amenti, which means “King of Hell,” and in Greek Rhadamanthus. From the midst of chaos was born Osiris, and at his birth a voice was heard proclaiming – “The ruler of all the earth is born.”

The religion of Isis thus spread throughout the Roman Empire during the formative centuries of Christianity.The image of Horus breast feeding on his mother (pictured above left) became the iconic image of the Isis cult in Rome that then became the template for the Christian Madonna cult that can still be seen today in most all Roman Catholic Churches. The last Pharaoh Queen of Egypt, Cleopatra VII was of the family of Ptolemy and had always appeared in public clothed in a robe sacred to Isis, her head adorned with a crown of golden lily leaves. It represents a woman with a glory around her head and a babe in her arms or seated on her knee.

However, this image is no longer known as the Cult of Isis and is now part of the world’s largest religion known today as Catholicism and the her name is no longer that off Isis, but was replaced by the iconic Virgin Mary.

Isis and Mary

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 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior


yes yes...I have read all of that before...can not things change? Can a spirit not change? Anyway forget it...this is your Lucifer thread...not trying to change the subject with my questions.

hf
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Yes, Gods and Goddesses can change 'roles,' but as of right now she is the Queen Bitch. Nothing to forget unless you want to forget reality. smile_kiss
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Fuck Lucifer, I got something for him bushpunch
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You actually think your Lucifer but the truth is your just a human with a lot of demons inside you. Lucifer is locked in a cage right now. Sources BIBLE 101.
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The bloodline of cain is damned. lucifer is the false bearer of light and a spiritual moon.
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How so when Lucifer is phosphorus that is in all nature and withing every cell membrane of our bodies meaning you and I and everyone else. What you think is evil is the light that gives us life that is hidden within you.

Phosphorus is the philosopher’s stone that is the central symbol of alchemy, symbolizing the light within our DNA and in nature. Without phosphorus, there would be no thought or wisdom. This is the atom that fires our blood to produce chemical energy, consciousness, creativity and life. It is the Fiat Lux of all nature.

Know Thyself and You Will Know God.

Baphomet Luke Br
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior


lucifer is the one controlling reformation of light in temptation and the creation of a false time matrix and a flesh entity that doesn't know its eternal name. The spiritual moon is the reflection of the light.

The name you have here is false and not in the Book of Life. Know Christ and you will know yourself through a rebirth in water and spirit.

baphomet is the connection of man to a fifth level consciousness where the seed of eve was to take the man/beast spirit of cain and this final age would usher in the antichrist beast with the rape of a woman by the true antichrist (who is now dead) in bohemian grove back in the early 1960s. He will assume the body of the mortally wounded one. Bohemian Grove in sonoma county . Hacked satanic name for the cut of "The Son of Man" and the meaning is valley of the moon. You are literally playing with fire in your approach OP.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


OK, I AM Jesus, the morning star...

Phoenix Christ

Now, do I get in heaven?
 Quoting: Gnostic Warrior


You worship baphomet. That is not good. This whole entity is the basis for the antichrist. It is a fifth consciousness false victory where you often see the sa and mael at the top of the inverted pentagram. Certainly you know what that is for. You went by the moniker Knights Templar before didn't you? That would put you firmly in the camp of those who deny the divinity of Christ and that he came in the flesh to save man, correct?

If you have interest in the bible, then what parts would it be? Have you tested the spirits in your spiritual search as scripture request? If you have, then what would lead you to a baphomet type being? If we are created in the image of God, then why would you be led to something that is hermaphroditic and corrupts both the spirit and image of the one true God?

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Temple omnium hominum pads abba
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Thank you,now I have to say more than just one thing.

Lay out your evidences and I will play.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I have some long dissertations on the subject on other threads. I will send you what I have if you are interested in IM. I will respond by tomorrow. My post above on this page is a tidbit of the information.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


It's cool,do as you please - I have no horse in the race : )

But I will quickly show this - Lucifer Etymology(not the best example)

'Old English Lucifer "Satan," also "morning star," from Latin Lucifer "morning star," literally "light-bringing," from lux (genitive lucis) "light" (see light (n.)) + ferre "carry" (see infer).

Belief that it was the proper name of Satan began with its use in Bible to translate Greek Phosphoros, which translates Hebrew Helel ben Shahar in Isaiah xiv:12 -- "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" [KJV] Because of the mention of a fall from Heaven, the verse was interpreted by Christians as a reference to Satan, even though it is literally a reference to the King of Babylon (cf. Isaiah xiv:4)
' [link to www.etymonline.com]

And -

'It may come as a surprise to many Christians that to the Jews and New Testament Christians there was no such person as Lucifer. To many Christians Lucifer is equivalent to Satan, the devil. How could it be that the Jews knew nothing of Lucifer, we find it clearly printed in our King James Bible in Isaiah 14. But then again it is not found in most contempary language versions. With the curiously notable exception of the New King James Version.

As way of introduction here is what The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia has to say about Lucifer:

Lucifer, the rendering of the Vulgate for the Hebrew phrase helal ("day-star") in Isa. 14:12; the verse is rendered in the Authorized Version as: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" The passage in question is a song of derision over the downfall of a Babylonian king; the figure used may trace back to a Hebrew or Babylonian astral myth like the Greek story of Phaethon, in which the day-star is cast out of heaven because of presumption. The term Lucifer is never used in Jewish legend; but Christian writers identified Lucifer with Satan who, according to the gospels (Luke 10:18), fell from heaven like lighting; accordingly, Lucifer became one of the terms for the devil in Christian theology. (Page 229)

Most Christians do realize that Jerome used the word in his Latin Vulgate Bible prepared sometime toward the latter half of the 4th century. But unfortunately that's about the sum total of their knowledge of the history of the word. Because tradition has for so long said that Lucifer is Satan, they do not question the word or concept any further. But where did this tradition come from, and why considering the many references to Satan in the New Testament did not the concept of Lucifer ever come up.

It is not to Jerome, however that we owe the teaching of Lucifer but to that most creative of theologians, Origen. (185-254 A.D.) It was he who first made the new connection between Satan and Lucifer. He brought together diverse Old Testament references from Job, Ezekiel and Isaiah. Arguing that Lucifer, the Prince of Tyre, and the Leviathan of Job, were all identical with the Devil. He used these texts to emphasize Satan's pride and his fall from heaven.

With the aid of Tertullian (155-After 220 A.D.) who taught that before Satan's fall he was not only an angel but the foremost angel. It is mainly to these three theologians, Origen, Tertullian, and Jerome that we derive the Lucifer myth. It should also be noted that the Lucifer myth can also be found in the Psedepigrapha in the book The Secrets of Enoch. But since it is currently felt that The Secrets of Enoch is likely a seventh century document (at least in its present form), therefor it is probably not the source of this Lucifer myth. ( I will for now refer to the idea that Lucifer is Satan as the Lucifer myth, hopefully by the end of the article you will agree that it is indeed a myth
.) ' [link to newprotestants.com]

And 'Is Lucifer actually a reference to Adam?' - [link to www.godfire.net] ?


Here's what we know about satan. he is a demon of many names. he masquerades in light as an angel.

Nowhere in scripture is Christ referred to as lucifer. If Christ is the truth, the light, and the way then anything else cannot be.

I have yet to see anyone that holds lucifer in high regard consider Jesus Christ as their Savior. Instead they deny him which in John makes that person an antichrist.

Take a look at the teachings of albert pike and freemasonry. Alot of that garbage has its roots in the lost tribe of Dan which forsook the one true God to worship Baal. We know there was a temple to pan/baal at Caesar Philippi, and this is where Peter declared that Jesus was the Son of the living God by knowing it through the spirit.

From Dan, the false merovingian line arose, and there is not one redeeming value in the whole lot of them. For that matter you can't find anything redeeming in value for Babylon or any of its kings. If it is not for the one true God and his Son, then its concepts are lost and dark and part of the illusion created by satan. lucifer is no different. So spiritually who would be the guiding force behind Babylon?

Every single one of the people who follow lucifer have a beast false god (baphomet) involved which is consistent with the roots of Dan and the baal/ pan half man/ half beast false god. We also know the antichrist is called the beast. So what ever is of this ilk is of the antichrist.

The tie ins of the 33rd parallel and the 33rd degree give big hints to the nature of freemasonry and its dark intentions. A third of the stars in heaven were swept to earth by the dragon's tail according to Revelation. It states in the Lord's Prayer "Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven." so, this place is a mirror image of Heaven is it not particularly when you consider the billions of times it has been prayed? So to what degree has this manifested on earth? If the third are swept to earth, then how many are awake and in flesh entities knowing full well there fallen nature?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


We have mixed the Middle Age Myth of Lucifer with the(very few references)of the Biblical 'Satan'.

I think you would agree that it is the God that created everything,there is only one creator after-all,no?

So,with that considered let me expand on the theology of the aspect of Gods Wrath we refer to as 'The Satan/Devil' -

The Lambda(or 'The Secret of Satan')

'AND on the seventh day there went forth from the presence of God a mighty angel, full of wrath and consuming, and God gave unto him the dominion of the outermost sphere.

2. Eternity brought forth time; the boundless gave birth to limit; being descended into generation.

3. As lightning I beheld Satan fall from heaven, splendid in strength and fury.

4. Among the Gods is none like unto Him, into whose hand are committed the kingdoms, the power and the glory of the worlds:

5. Thrones and empires, the dynasties of kings, the fall of nations, the birth of churches, the triumphs of time.

6. They arise and pass, they were and are not; the sea and the dust and the immense mystery of space devour them.

7. The tramp of armies, the voices of joy and of pain, the cry of the new-born babe, the shout of the warrior mortally smitten.

8. Marriage, divorce, division, violent deaths, martyrdoms, tyrannous ignorances, the impotence of passionate protest, and the mad longing for oblivion:

9. The eyes of the tiger in the jungle, the fang of the snake, the fœtor of slaughter-houses, the wail of innocent beasts in pain:

10. The innumerable incarnations of spirit, the strife towards manhood, the ceaseless pulse and current of desire:--

11. These are his who beareth all the Gods on his shoulders;[V] who establisheth the pillars of necessity and fate.

12. Many names hath God given him, names of mystery, secret and terrible.

p. 170

13. God called him Satan the Adversary, because matter opposeth spirit, and time accuseth even the saints of the Lord.

14. And the Destroyer, for his arm breaketh and grindeth to pieces; wherefore the fear and the dread of him are upon all flesh.

15. And the Avenger, for he is the anger of God; his breath shall burn up all the souls of the wicked.

16. And the Sifter, for he straineth all things through his sieve, dividing the husk from the grain; discovering the thoughts of the heart; proving and purifying the spirit of man.

17. And the Deceiver, for he maketh the false appear true, and concealeth the real under the mask of illusion.

18. And the Tempter, for he setteth snares before the feet of the elect: he beguileth with vain shows, and seduceth with enchantments.

19. Blessed are they who withstand his subtlety: they shall be called the Sons of God, and shall enter in at the beautiful gates.

20. For Satan is the doorkeeper of the temple of the King: he standeth in Solomon's porch; he holdeth. the keys of the sanctuary;

21. That no man may enter therein save the Anointed, having the arcanum of Hermes.

22. For Satan is the Spirit of the Fear of the Lord, which is the beginning of wisdom.

23. He is the devourer of the unwise and the evil: they shall all be meat and drink to him.

24. Whatsoever he devoureth, that shall never more return into being.

25. Fear him, for after he hath killed, he hath power to cast into hell.

26. But he is the servant of the Sons of God, and of the children of light.

27. They shall go before him, and he shall follow the steps of the wise.

28. Stand in awe of him and sin not: speak his name with trembling; and beseech God daily to deliver thee.

29. For Satan is the magistrate of the justice of God: he beareth the balance and the sword,

30. To execute judgment and vengeance upon all who come short of the commandments of God; to weigh their works, to measure their desire, and to number their days,

31. For to him are committed weight and measure and number.

p. 171

32. And all things must pass under the rod and through the balance, and be fathomed by the sounding-lead.

33. Therefore Satan is the minister of God, Lord of the seven mansions of Hades, the angel of the manifest worlds.

34. And God hath put a girdle about his loins, and the name of the girdle is Death.

35. Threefold are its coils, for threefold is the power of Death, dissolving the body, the ghost, and the soul.

36. And that girdle is black within, but where Phoibos strikes it is silver.

37. None of the Gods is girt save Satan, for upon him only is the shame of generation.

38. He hath lost his virginal estate: uncovering heavenly secrets, he hath entered into bondage.

39. He encompasseth with bonds and limits all things which are made: he putteth chains round about the worlds, and determineth their orbits.

40. By him are creation and appearance; by him birth and transformation; the day of begetting and the night of death.

41. The glory of Satan is the shadow of the Lord: the throne of Satan is the footstool of Adonai.

42. Twain are the armies of God: in heaven the hosts of Michael; in the abyss the legions of Satan.

43. These are the unmanifest and the manifest; the free and the bound; the virginal and the fallen.

44. And both are the ministers of the Father, fulfilling the word divine.

45. The legions of Satan are the creative emanations, having the shapes of dragons, of Titans, and of elemental gods;

46. Forsaking the intelligible world, 1 seeking manifestation, renouncing their first estate;

47. Which were cast out into chaos, neither was their place found any more in heaven.

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48. Evil is the result of limitation, and Satan is the Lord of limit.

49. He is the father of lies, because matter is the cause of illusion.

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50. To understand the secret of the kingdom of God, and to read the riddle of Maya, this is to have Satan under foot.

51. He only can put Satan under foot who is released by thought from the bonds of desire.

52. Nature is the allegory of spirit: all that appeareth to the sense is deceit: to know the truth,--this alone shall make men free.

53. For the kingdom of Satan is the house of matter: yea, his mansion is the sepulchre of Golgotha, wherein on the seventh day the Lord lay sleeping, keeping the Sabbath of the unmanifest.

54. For the day of Satan is the night of spirit: the manifestation of the worlds of form is the rest of the worlds informulate.

55. Holy and venerable is the Sabbath of God: blessed and sanctified is the name of the angel of Hades;

56. Whom the Anointed shall overcome, rising again from the dead on the first day of the week.

57. For the place of Satan is the bourne of divine impulsion: there is the arrest of the outgoing force; Luza, the station of pause and slumber:

58. Where Jacob lay down and dreamed, beholding the ladder which reached from earth to heaven.

59. For Jacob is the planetary angel Iacchos, the Lord of the body;

60. Who hath left his father's house, and is gone out into a far country.

61. Yet is Luza none other than Bethel; the kingdom of Satan is become the kingdom of God and of His Christ.

62. For there the Anointed awakeneth, arising from sleep, and goeth his way rejoicing;

63. Having seen the vision of God, and beheld the secret of Satan;

64. Even as the Lord arose from the dead and brake the seal of the sepulchre;[V]

65. Which is the portal of heaven, Luza, the house of separation, the place of stony sleep;

66. Where is born the centripetal force, drawing the soul upward and inward to God;

67. Recalling Existence into Being, resuming the kingdoms of matter in spirit;[W]

68. Until Satan return unto his first estate, and enter again into the heavenly obedience;

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69. Having fulfilled the will of the Father, and accomplished his holy ministry,

70. Which was ordained of God before the worlds, for the splendour of the manifest, and for the generation of Christ our Lord;[X]

71. Who shall judge the quick and the dead, putting all things under his feet; whose are the dominion, the power, the glory, and the Amen.[A]
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That is the M.O of 'Satan' - You will now recognize with deeper insight the many aspects of the one and only creator of the one and only creation.

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Fuck Lucifer, I got something for him bushpunch
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First decipher the root history of the Term 'Lucifer' - it is not a Name,instead more a title.

But anyway,you may find this interesting -

'Note: This hub will hopefully explain not only how Jesus is the true lucifer (lower case to refer not to a proper name), but also how the 'Lucifer' mentioned in Isaiah is nothing more than a fraud who did not, does not, and will never truly deserve that title.

Before we begin let us figure out Lucifer means. In Latin Lucifer means “Light Bringer” and is the name of the Morning Star. The word Lucifer appears only once in the Bible and only in the KJV. Isaiah 14:12: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”

But did the word Lucifer always exist? NO! In the Hebrew language, the word Lucifer is derived from the Hebrew word הילל (Hêlēl). In fact, the term Lucifer didn’t even exist in the Biblical ages! Put thought to it; Lucifer is a Latin word. (Lux = light/fire Ferre = to bear/to bring). The Old Testament was written primarily in Hebrew, so the word Lucifer could not have been in their language. So, then if the word were not amongst them at that time, then who gave us that word?

In 382 AD, Pope Damasus I commissioned St. Jerome to write a revision of the old Latin translation of the Bible. This task was completed sometime during the 5th century AD, and eventually it was considered the official and definite Latin version of the Bible according to the Roman Catholic church. By the 13th century it was considered the versio vulgate – the common translation.

It was St. Jerome who placed the word Lucifer into the Bible, and not just once, but three times! Isaiah 14:12, Job 11:17, and 2 Peter 1:19
' Read more at [link to sanctusvesania.hubpages.com] .

The deliberate entangling of the term 'Lucifer' with the Biblical satan/Devil is a deliberate ploy to foster and encourage the majority of Christendom that Knowledge is a bad thing and the quest for any higher truth is of Satan - This is why they have taken a term that implies Knowledge Bringer/Light Bringer(Lucifer)and applied it to Satan - How can you rule the masses if the masses seek higher a knowledge?

Through encouraging the notion that enlightenment(to learn)is evil and of the Devil,quite simple and born out through everyday observations.

Much Respect to all and absolutely no offense meant to any.

sunhf

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:DNA intuition:

I AM the Alpha of my own asswhole

a missquote oops

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well aren't WE special!
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Please light my cigar, matchstick.
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Tried to find a smilie of the Matchbox of 'Lucifers' alone but to no availhf
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OP is not the Peacock Angel
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whatever
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No you aren't this guy is.

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One thing to say only - Lucifer is not Satan.
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yes he is
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Thank you,now I have to say more than just one thing.

Lay out your evidences and I will play.
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satan means adversary which is exactly what lucifer is
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One thing to say only - Lucifer is not Satan.
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yes he is
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Thank you,now I have to say more than just one thing.

Lay out your evidences and I will play.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


satan means adversary which is exactly what lucifer is
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If you wouldn't mind quoting direct scripture that refers to 'Lucifer' as the adversary as I have never seen any what-so-ever.

Lucifer is mentioned just 3 times directly in the Bible and never once is Lucifer convoluted with 'Satan' the adversary.

Read through the posts.

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Edit:Actually,it turns out it was mentioned just once in the KJV.

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yes he is
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Thank you,now I have to say more than just one thing.

Lay out your evidences and I will play.
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satan means adversary which is exactly what lucifer is
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If you wouldn't mind quoting direct scripture that refers to 'Lucifer' as the adversary as I have never seen any what-so-ever.

Lucifer is mentioned just 3 times directly in the Bible and never once is Lucifer convoluted with 'Satan' the adversary.

Read through the posts.

hf
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are you the type that needs everything spelled out? how about some application of common sense?

since satan means adversary and is not a name and lucifer has fallen even according to freemasonic texts then even a child conclude that lucifer is the adversary... even if lucifer was a title it is irrelevant.
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youre a first class dickhead.
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bump For the light!

FIAT LUX FOREVER!

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Congrats Bro ! Youre going thru the I AM Initiation. Enjoy the ride !

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that's pretty blasphemous

if you were Lucifer you'd have no need to prove it to anyone else.
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it's amazing how much power a name holds :)

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Why would the name lucifer need defending? Let's say for instance, that it is not satan, then what is it? OK, let's call it mephistopheles. Really who gives a rat's behind because all of this crap will be thrown into the lake of fire. Maybe lucifer is like the phoenix bird that rises from the ashes. It does say that the lake of fire is the second death. If that is true, then when did satan die the first time? We do know it (lucifer) is fallen and something that's name denotes a negative connotation. If you test the spirits in your pursuit of the truth, the light and the way which is Jesus Christ ask this entity lucifer if it worships Jesus and believes he came in the flesh, died and was resurrected to save mankind from sin? See what happens. That is if you are spiritually connected.

If the spirit denies Christ then it is in the spirit of the antichrist which is the main reason why those who follow this path end up involved with a half man/woman/ half beast false god called baphomet.

Here's what I know about that damned thing. It is the corrupted form of man that accepts the mark of the beast. Look at the words above the unholy pentagram that in many cases contains the beast head. It says sa and mael. Those in the know, know that mael is the sacred name of woman prior to sin. Sa is the effort of satan to try and make his name above it. Eve was to be turned totally dark which gives rise to lillith. Basically legitimizing that as woman in concept. You think I am kidding about this then go look at the statue of Eve taking flight from Adam with demon's wings in the square of pietrasanta, IT. Google the city's pics and see what pops up. If that interest you, then we can talk about the 33rd parallel and what this unholy flock are trying to do on this earth.

The whole point being was that woman would be able to take the beast seed and produce the human sacrifice to usher in the spirit of the antichrist into the unholy resurrection. This is the dark counter to God, his Son and the false prophet would walk against Peter (antipope) as the Catholic Church was turned dark, reversed and made satanic openly The dark ritual to create the victim took place in bohemian grove a few decades ago. I can go into this twisted tale if you want.

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I AM the Alpha and the Omega

The First and the Last

I AM the Lord of lords and King of kings

The Supreme, the Most high, the Lord of the Rings

I AM Jove, the Dove, the bringer of light

I AM the fire that burns forever in the night

The Light of the Light and Son of the Son

Jupiter, Vulcan, and the philosophers stone

The Son of the Morning that brings light to the dark

I AM Lucifer, Heylel and who some call the Morning Star

Secrets of the stone, forever live in my bones

I AM Horus on the Lotus, I AM the only ONE

The hidden manna of the white stone, the electricity that gives life

I conquer time, I conquer death, I AM the dawn of a new day that has arrived

By Moe Bedard - 2/25/2013

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I'm Popeye the Sailor Man,
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man.
I'm strong to the finich
Cause I eats me spinach.
I'm Popeye the Sailor Man.

I'm one tough Gazookus
Which hates all Palookas
Wot ain't on the up and square.
I biffs 'em and buffs 'em
And always out roughs 'em
But none of 'em gets nowhere.

If anyone dares to risk my "Fisk",
It's "Boff" an' it's "Wham" un'erstan'?
So keep "Good Be-hav-or"
That's your one life saver
With Popeye the Sailor Man.
...


So what Now, Yo Mighty Eosphorus ?



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it's amazing how much power a name holds :)
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no doubt... chuckle

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