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Protect Yourself, know your rights, DHS checkpoint refusals

 
Von Mousetrapp (OP)

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03/02/2013 11:21 AM
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Re: Protect Yourself, know your rights, DHS checkpoint refusals
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Anonymous Coward
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03/02/2013 07:01 PM
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Re: Protect Yourself, know your rights, DHS checkpoint refusals
So its our fault for believing in our freedom and when Government attempts to take it and we tell them no its our fault again for the violence they force on us?

You are a fucking idiot, if you are in Mexico, stay there, freedom is not for you, it is for those brave enough to risk everything to snatch it from the jaws of those who would enslave us further.
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You are still maintaining your freedom if you answer that you are a US Citizen and can prove it when asked. I dont see that as an infringement of your god given right to be free.

On the one hand you criticise undocumented citizens and how much better it would be for the economy if they left, yet on the other, you cry over the most trivial of issues, designed to identify them and to ensure only US citizens travel the highways and borders, whilst at the same time you fail to focus on the real problems facing Americans today.

Do you not want to ensure your freedoms or woukd you rather undocumented citizens walk freely amongst you? Which is it to be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35051383


Yes, every invasive measure that infringes on rights can be justified under the idea that it is protecting your or the nation's security. That is exactly what they have been doing on a number of fronts and they've had to make general legislation, and have judges subsequently rubber stamp it. The problem you forget to mention is they are not limited to the border in their searches, they can now create highway stops anywhere in the country. They are not limited in stopping cars on highways either, but can create stops anywhere they want. They are not limited to immigration transgressions either, but can intervene and arrest on any presumed or suspected illegal activity. Scared yet?

It already affects any number of people, Americans you so easily dismiss as trivial and unimportant.

When the time comes, I could make the same argument as you but against your pet grievances -- as unimportant, trivial, and not a real problem for me and real Americans.

Obviously your struggle isnt about Constitutional rights it is about you, and only you -- that's about as trivial as it gets...
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"necessity is the plea of tyrants and the creed of slaves"

I don't remember proper attribution.


I didn't say Americans are trivial, though some are trivializing this issue by being rude and uncooperative, but have it your way, you keep fightong the good fight toughman, see how your civil disbedience works out for you becaus they are going to do this regardless of your bitching and moaning about it, because instead of manning up and taking issue at government level, you think it is better to be rude and uncooperative at ground level, where your argument lies.
Von Mousetrapp (OP)

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Re: Protect Yourself, know your rights, DHS checkpoint refusals
oh, my Mexican friend, you would feel at home in '70 USSR. Same Scent.

Last Edited by Von Mousetrapp on 03/02/2013 09:43 PM
Von Mousetrapp (OP)

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And by the way those HS people ARE the government. I don't care if they are 'poor' and happy to get any kind of job or those GI Joe wannabes, and the fact that they are on the bottom of the government ladder.
It doesn't matter, because to me they are just as equally involved in numbing of the society by translating from the mind of power of authority soapbox, truth embedded in Constitution. The majority of those people are not on the spiritual level adequate to understand, (and crave), freedom per se, so they wing it.

Last Edited by Von Mousetrapp on 03/02/2013 09:51 PM

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