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Do you believe in Christ or do you only believe he exist? To believe he exist is different than to believe in him. Are you an unbeliever?

 
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Do you believe in Christ or do you only believe he exist? To believe he exist is different than to believe in him. Are you an unbeliever?
The information in this thread in more depth here:
Thread: Warning: The DARK LORD has planted LIARS among the thousands of FALSE CHURCHES among you. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF WOLVES IN SHEEP SKIN COATS.




As for this video, there seems to be some sort of society that hides in plain sight. They seem to have their own way, truth, and life. They seem to be in the churches of many religions. They seem to control some of the things you consume and do not consume. Who are they?


Is this the beast kingdom that ascends out of the abyss? Did you know that true Christianity is a kingdom descended from the heavens?









As for the below:

Do you believe in Jesus Christ or do you only believe he exist? Who are those who believe in him?

John 12:46
I have come as a light into the world,that whoever believes-in-Me should not abide-in-darkness.


Who is in-darkness?

Ephesians 2:1-3
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.


Who is in-him?

1 John 3:24
Now he who keeps His commandments abides-in-Him, and He-in-him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.


Who is those he made alive? What gives life?

John 6:63
It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.


Romans 8:10-12
And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.


Who has the spirit? Those who obey him or those who disobey him? Can we obey and disobey at the same time?

Acts 5:32 (NKJV)
And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him.


Who does God say loves him? Does God, the Holy Spirit lie?

John 14:23-24(NKJV)
Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.

John 14:15-17 (NKJV)
If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.


So, those who are not born of God are not believers. Need more proof?


1 John 5:1(NKJV)
Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him.



1 John 3:9(NKJV)
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.



Who are those who confess Jesus Christ as coming into the flesh? Do you have the holy spirit?


2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”

1 Corinthians 12:3 (NKJV)
Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

Who is the one who denies the Lord instead of denying themselves? Are you a saint or sinner?


Titus 1:16
They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.






What if I told you one with the holy spirit has many titles? Believer? Born of God? Saint? Born again? Brother? Sister? Child of God? Christian? Disciple? They love God, know him, and have seen him. They are good trees that bear good fruit. They do not and cannot sin. They are saved and not condemned. All promises are ‘yes’ in Christ. Also, I am talking about sin that does not lead to death. It’s like a chain reaction of truth. They are holy, blameless, and pure. They walk in the light as he is in the light. In this world they are like Jesus, the perfect sacrifice. He lead by an example in which they follow for it is enough to be like ones teacher but not greater.


Notice the “if” in John 8:31-32

John 10:37
Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.





So, what must you do in order to obey "enough" to get the holy spirit? Meet God "half way" and he shall come to you and carry you the rest of the way.


Acts 2:38 - get-in-him, 1 john 3:24; then get baptised-in-his-name.


Then you will believe once you have the holy spirit.

Mark 9:23
Jesus said to him, “If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.”



How does one get-in-him in order to be baptized in-his-name? Repent of all sins that lead to death.

1 John 5:15-16
And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him. If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.


What is sin that leads to death? These below may help you find out. Do you see anyone who claims to have the holy spirit doing the below? A really easy way to know if someone does not have the holy spirit, is if they tell a lie. Satan is the father of lies.


Acts 3:19; Ephesians 5:3-5; Colossians 3:5; Matthew 15:19; Mark 7:21-22; Acts 15:20; Romans 13:13; 1 Corinthians 5:11; 6:9; Galatians 5:19-21; Revelation 21:8; 22:15; 1 Timothy 1:9-11



1 Corinthians 15:8 - Paul saw him and he was abnormally born.
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How dare you presume to know what is in someone else's heart and soul?

Just because a person struggles with dis-belief or un-belief, doesn't mean that he or she is not striving to find a more complete faith in God and in Christ.
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How dare you presume to know what is in someone else's heart and soul?

Just because a person struggles with dis-belief or un-belief, doesn't mean that he or she is not striving to find a more complete faith in God and in Christ.
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The truth does not argue with the truth. A liar is a liar. There are many ways to see what lies within the hearts of men.

Ezekiel 33:6 - But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes someone’s life, that person’s life will be taken because of their sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for their blood.



Acts 18:6 - But when they opposed Paul and became abusive, he shook out his clothes in protest and said to them, “Your blood be on your own heads! I am innocent of it. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.”

Acts 20:25-26 - “Now I know that none of you among whom I have gone about preaching the kingdom will ever see me again. Therefore, I declare to you today that I am innocent of the blood of any of you.
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2 Corinthians 4:3 - And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.

2 Corinthians 3:18 - And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
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You know nothing about me. I am trying to warn you. Yet if some didn't learn then will they learn now? You are judging unrighteously.
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What if "most Christians" told you that you know nothing about them?
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You know nothing about me. I am trying to warn you. Yet if some didn't learn then will they learn now? You are judging unrighteously.
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What if "most Christians" told you that you know nothing about them?
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Matthew 7:13-14 - “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

My god is not a liar!
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Luke 6:46 - “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?



Matthew 7:21 - “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.


Romans 12:2 - And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.



Revelation 13:8 - All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.



John 17:16 - They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.



Revelation 13:12 - And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.



John 18:36 - Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”
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Liar Liar Pants On Fire!


1 Corinthians 15:2
By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

2 Corinthians 6:1 - As God’s co-workers we urge you not to receive God’s grace in vain.





John 14:23-24 - Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

Are you rejecting christ when you do not know the way, believe in the truth, or live the life? Have you denied him? Perhaps you believe in a false christ? Why do people assume the bible is talking to them? If you study the words of jesus, a lot of the time as he spoke about himself, he spoke about all the sons of god. He also exposed the sons of satan. Lets look at John 10:37, “Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.” Here we are told not to believe a sinner. The sheep know the voice of their master. They may hear a stranger but they do not listen. In the same way, god hears a sinners prayer but chooses to listen because they are not righteous. There must be life in your words and not death. Jesus is like gods prayer to you and me. Jesus was a reflection of what god wants us to be. We are to present ourselves as the perfect gift to god and he has already told us what he wants. If you do not answer the prayers of god why do you expect him to answer yours? Treat others the way you want to be treated by god. Are you in christ? There is a gift, and a seal of approval. How could the lawless be guarenteed to inherit eternal life when they inherit the lake of fire? Don’t let the sinner lie to you. They are not brothers, sisters, christians, or disciples. Lets look at John 8:31, “Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.” So, how many liars have we just exposed? According to Acts 11:26, “The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch,” so, how many of you have the right to call yourselves a christian? Many do not even believe in christ. Lets look at 1 John 2:6, “Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.” Faith without works is dead. Works of the law is obedience. You must believe and be in christ to believe in christ. These sinners are not saved, born again, or a child of god. They do not love god, know him, nor have they seen him. I doubt they have the holy spirit. Some are the seed of satan. Others have the seed of god. Enough said. So, do you believe in him?


Ephesians 5:6 - Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.


Acts 2:38 - Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 10:43 - All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.

Jude 1:19 - These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.

Jude 1:4 - For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

John 14:12 - Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

1 John 3:3-10 - All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure. Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.

1 Peter 4:18-19 - And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

Acts 16:31 - They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.”

Hebrews 6:4-6 - It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

1 John 2:18-25 - Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also. As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is what he promised us—eternal life.

1 John 5:18-19 - We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them. We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

John 7:39 - By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.

John 3:16-18 - For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

1 John 3:24 - The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.

Acts 5:32 - We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him.”

Ephesians 1:13-14 - And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

2 John 1:9 - Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

1 John 5:10 - Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son.



Do you believe IN christ? Do you believe? Are you IN christ?


Who is IN christ? Who have gone THROUGH him to the father? Who are born again? Who are saved? The holy and righteous saints who have clothed themselves in christ. Not sons of satan. Their father is the devil. All who continue to sin are sons of wrath. Those alive in christ must be dead to sin not dead in sin. Do not fall from grace my beloved.

1 John 2:5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 2 Corinthians 1:21-23, 2:14, 5:17; Ephesians 1:3, 2:6-7, 10-13, 3:6; 1 Corinthians 1:30, 2:14, 15:22; Romans 8:1, 12:5; Galatians2:4,3:26-28; 1 Timothy 1:14; 2 Timothy 1:8-9, 2:1,10; Philippians3:13-14; Colossians 1:28; 1 Thessalonians 4:16; 5:16-18; 1 John 2:10,15, 3:9,24, 4:15-16; John 6:56, 17:26; 1 Peter 4:18-19;


Hebrews 2:11 - Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters.


“For we are to God the pleasing aroma of Christ among those who are being saved and those who are perishing. To the one we are an aroma that brings death; to the other, an aroma that brings life.”

—2 Corinthians 2:15-16

 Quoting: Harbinger Of Truth


Amen! “He that saith, “I know him”, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in Him.” – 1 John 2:4

“By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments: and His commandments are not grievous.” – 1 John 5:2-3

“Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God.” – 1 Corinthians 7:19
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"For if we go on sinning (BREAKING THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD) willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and THE FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY.” And again, “THE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE.” It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Hebrews 10:26-31
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Amen! “He that saith, “I know him”, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in Him.” – 1 John 2:4

“By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments: and His commandments are not grievous.” – 1 John 5:2-3

“Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God.” – 1 Corinthians 7:19
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Shalom! Thanks for blessing us with a few scriptures! Grace be with you.
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If people won't respect what the Gospel of Jesus Christ says then it wouldn't matter of a person came back from the dead.

Luke 16:19 " There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day.

Luke 16:20 "But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate,

Luke 16:21 "desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

Luke 16:22 "So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried.

Luke 16:23 "And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

Luke 16:24 "Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.'

Luke 16:25 "But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.

Luke 16:26 'And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'

Luke 16:27 "Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house,

Luke 16:28 'for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'

Luke 16:29 "Abraham said to him, 'They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.'

Luke 16:30 "And he said, 'No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'

Luke 16:31 "But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.' "
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Do you love God? Why? What does loving God feel like? Who or what else do you love? Do you love your country? Why?
Do people who feel hate suffer, while you who feel love feel good? Is feeling good your great gift to God?

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"For if we go on sinning (BREAKING THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD) willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and THE FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES. Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY.” And again, “THE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE.” It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Hebrews 10:26-31
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Thank you, the people need to know the truth.
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Do you love God? Why?
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No, due to ignorance, I do not know what I do. I do the things I don't want to do. Sin dwells inside me. Remember paul? I found out god was truly real around a year ago. I have a lot of catching up to do. I have been a traitor for 25 years and I am a wretched dog! I may be young but that is no excuse. I must know my creator!



Do not listen to me, for dead men don’t talk. I am indeed dead in my sins. Listen to the life in my voice. For the sheep know their masters voice. They do not listen to strangers. They know his voice because they belong to god. Those who do not understand do not belong to god. Either your heart is of stone or flesh. I am a stone, for now. My eyes are unhealthy, how great is the darkness within me! Even the light within me is dark! For a bad tree cannot bear good fruit! For I am blind, trying to see. If I were blind I would not be as guilty of sin as those who can see or claim to see. I am starting to see here and there but I remain ignorant. A stone can blind itself if its eyes are on other things besides god. I must wake up for I remain asleep! I have not been sent yet so I should not teach. I must be sent! I want to expose those who have not gone through the gate. If you pay a false teacher is he not a theif? Read about those teachers who did not go through the gate! Jesus is the gate! Until I am ready to serve, I don’t want you to be tricked by these foxes! I do not know god, nor have I seen him. I am a son of satan for I need to die to sin. I am not a child of god. I am not saved or born again. I do not claim to be a brother for I would be a liar like most who are false brothers and sisters. I am not a christian, for a christian is a disciple. A true disciple shall follow their lord. I remain in my sins therefore I do not love god. As I expose myself, perhaps I shall expose the world around you. If you do not believe me, look for the life in my words. Take everything I say to the new testament. For now that is what I study. I don’t want to study the old until I know the new. I try to speak as if god is speaking through me. I read various translations but the new international version was a gift I could understand. If you notice the words coming out of my mouth you may also notice I am trying to eat these words I read. Some read and its like they look at their own reflection in the mirror and forget what they look like. I am trying to eat the bread of life and drink the living water because I could be the only bible you see. I must transform into the image of jesus to be a son of god. Love is the fulfillment of the law. I must walk in the light as he is in the light for those who follow him shall never walk in darkness. I cannot seek my own righteousness! Only faith shall save me! I need the blood to cleanse me! The purification process takes awhile. The yeast must work its way through the dough. Beware the yeast of liars and hypocrites! I want you to travel with me as I believe our heavenly farther draws me to him. Only those he enables to follow him can do so. I want the world to know jesus is lord. I want to confess that I am trying to serve the first and the last. The beginning and the end. Alpha and omega. The almighty I Am! The word who was in the beginning, who was with god, who was god, and who came into the flesh as the son of god who in very nature is god. God is the only immortal, who no one has seen or can see for he is invisible. Only god is good, there is no darkness in him. All things seen were created by one unseen. For all things were created for him, by him, and through him to whom is worthy alone of all the power, glory, and praise! Holy holy is the most high god who sent his son to die for our sins! Jesus the very image of god was in human form tempted just like us. He was not in some divine flesh? He defeated satan and overcame the world! He rose from the dead among others and was seated on the right side of god being made superior to all things under the father. The lord of our lord is our father. Jesus is lord!







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No, due to ignorance, I do not know what I do. I do the things I don't want to do. Sin dwells inside me. Remember paul?



Do not listen to me, for dead men don’t talk. I am indeed dead in my sins. Listen to the life in my voice. For the sheep know their masters voice. They do not listen to strangers. They know his voice because they belong to god. Those who do not understand do not belong to god. Either your heart is of stone or flesh. I am a stone, for now. My eyes are unhealthy, how great is the darkness within me! Even the light within me is dark! For a bad tree cannot bear good fruit! For I am blind, trying to see. If I were blind I would not be as guilty of sin as those who can see or claim to see. I am starting to see here and there but I remain ignorant. A stone can blind itself if its eyes are on other things besides god. I must wake up for I remain asleep! I have not been sent yet so I should not teach. I must be sent! I want to expose those who have not gone through the gate. If you pay a false teacher is he not a theif? Read about those teachers who did not go through the gate! Jesus is the gate! Until I am ready to serve, I don’t want you to be tricked by these foxes! I do not know god, nor have I seen him. I am a son of satan for I need to die to sin. I am not a child of god. I am not saved or born



again. I do not claim to be a brother for I would be a liar like most who are false brothers and sisters. I am not a christian, for a christian is a disciple. A true disciple shall follow their lord. I remain in my sins therefore I do not love god. As I expose myself, perhaps I shall expose the world around you. If you do not believe me, look for the life in my words. Take everything I say to the new testament. For now that is what I study. I don’t want to study the old until I know the new. I try to speak as if god is speaking through me. I read various translations but the new international version was a gift I could understand. If you notice the words coming out of my mouth you may also notice I am trying to eat these words I read. Some read and its like they look at their own reflection in the mirror and forget what they look like. I am trying to eat the bread of life and drink the living water because I could be the only bible you see. I must transform into the image of jesus to be a son of god. Love is the fulfillment of the law. I must walk in the light as he is in the light for those who follow him shall never walk in darkness. I cannot seek my own righteousness! Only faith shall save me! I need the blood to cleanse me! The purification process takes awhile. The yeast must work its way through the dough. Beware the yeast of liars and hypocrites! I want you to travel with me as I believe our heavenly farther draws me to him. Only those he enables to follow him can do so. I want the world to know jesus is lord. I want to confess that I am trying to serve the first and the last. The beginning and the end. Alpha and omega. The almighty I Am! The word who was in the beginning, who was with god, who was god, and who came into the flesh as the son of god who in very nature is god. God is the only immortal, who no one has seen or can see for he is invisible. Only god is good, there is no darkness in him. All things seen were created by one unseen. For all things were created for him, by him, and through him to whom is worthy alone of all the power, glory, and praise! Holy holy is the most high god who sent his son to die our sins! Jesus the very image of god was in human form tempted just like us. He was not in some divine flesh? He defeated satan and overcame the world! He rose from the among others has was seated on the right side of god being made superior to all things under the father. The lord of our lord is our father. Jesus is lord!
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interesting discourse.
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Ezekiel 18:30-31 - “Therefore, you Israelites, I will judge each of you according to your own ways, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel?
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1 Timothy 1:6-7 - Some have departed from these and have turned to meaningless talk. They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

1 Timothy 6:3-5- If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
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Certainly not! God must be true, even though all human beings are liars.
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So many experts on 'god' here tonight...
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So many experts on 'god' here tonight...
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Those who do not understand are perishing..
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I am a christian. I have been saved again, and born again. I worship christ. I am not lying
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I am a witness. I am my own witness. I carry no falsehood. I believe you are false and that is my proof. I say you need to study more. I'm implying you havent read the NT enough. I'm talking about accepting yourself instead of rejecting yourself. I see my arrogance, as well as yours.
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I am a christian. I have been saved again, and born again. I worship christ. I am not lying
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That would be nice but I would not know.
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Why do people not understand the bible?

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 - And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.


2 Timothy 4:3-4 - For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.



Romans 1:28 - Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done


2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 - They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.



Matthew 6:33 - But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

James 1:5 says, "But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him." God has promised to help those who sincerely ask for such.

Romans 16:17 - I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

Ephesians 3:3-4 - that is, the mystery made known to me by revelation, as I have already written briefly. In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ,

1 Tim 2:3-4 - For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth”

Ephesians 5:17 - Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is.

Acts 4:32 - All the believers were one in heart and mind.


Proverbs 2:11-16 - Discretion will watch over you, understanding will guard you, delivering you from the way of evil, from men of perverted speech, who forsake the paths of uprightness to walk in the ways of darkness, who rejoice in doing evil and delight in the perverseness of evil, men whose paths are crooked, and who are devious in their ways.

Proverbs 2:2-5 - Making your ear attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding; yes, if you call out for insight and raise your voice for understanding, if you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God.

James 1:2-4 - Count it all joy, my brothers,when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.



Proverbs 12:1-28 - Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid. A good man obtains favor from the Lord,but a man of evil devices he condemns. No one is established by wickedness, but the root of the righteous will never be moved. An excellent wife is the crown of her husband, but she who brings shame is like rottenness in his bones. The thoughts of the righteous are just; the counsels of the wicked are deceitful.

Psalm 119:130 - The unfolding of your words gives light; it imparts understanding to the simple.

Proverbs 14:29 - Whoever is slow to anger has great understanding, but he who has a hasty temper exalts folly.

Proverbs 17:27 - Whoever restrains his words has knowledge, and he who has a cool spirit is a man of understanding.

Proverbs 18:2 - A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.


Matthew 22:29 - Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.

2 Peter 3:16 - He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.


2 Corinthians 4:2 - But we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways. We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God's word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone's conscience in the sight of God


2 Timothy 2:15 - Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.


James 1:25 - But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer who forgets but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing.


Romans 3:11 - No one understands; no one seeks for God.


Luke 23:40 - But the other rebuked him, saying, “Do you not fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation?

Psalm 111:10 - The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; all those who practice it have a good understanding. His praise endures forever!


Romans 8:7 - For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot.


Proverbs 1:5-6 - Let the wise hear and increase in learning, and the one who understands obtain guidance, to understand a proverb and a saying, the words of the wise and their riddles.


Proverbs 25:2 - It is the glory of God to conceal things, but the glory of kings is to search things out.


1 Corinthians 2:13 - And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.


Hebrews 4:2 - For good news came to us just as to them, but the message they heard did not benefit them, because they were not united by faith with those who listened.

1 Corinthians 2:14 - The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

Matthew 11:25 - At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.


1 Peter 1:12 - It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things.


John 5:39-40 - You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

2 Samuel 22:26-27 - “To the faithful you show yourself faithful, to the blameless you show yourself blameless, to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the devious you show yourself shrewd.


Matthew 13:10-14 - The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?” He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. This is why I speak to them in parables: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.


Matthew 7:6 - “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

John 8:42-45 - Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!


Isaiah 45:15 - Truly you are a God who has been hiding himself, the God and Savior of Israel.
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Go ahead and test the things I have said. Prove me wrong.


Acts 17:11 - Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.
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EVRYBODY QUIT BEING MEAN TO THE OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can tell he is a good hearted person who is striving to find his way to God, using the only method a person can use, reading the Bible and reflecting on his past life.

Quit picking on him, he will find God eventually just as most of you meanies will if you try.
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If I sin, point it out to me.

If I lie, point it out to me.

If I am arrogant, point it out to me.

If I am self righteous, point it out to me.

If I am blind, point it out to me.

Whatever you accuse me of doing, prove it.


Accusation after accusation. Prove it.


Dead men don't talk. Jesus is life. So you must show me his way, truth, and life. Prove what you say or go away. A devil is just here to sharpen the sword of my mouth and equip me to be a better warrior for christ, and other things of course.


If I am wrong I want to be right. Those who are wrong face the wrath of god. If you truly loved me you would show your love. I see hatred.
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EVRYBODY QUIT BEING MEAN TO THE OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can tell he is a good hearted person who is striving to find his way to God, using the only method a person can use, reading the Bible and reflecting on his past life.

Quit picking on him, he will find God eventually just as most of you meanies will if you try.
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Shalom, blessed are the peacemakers. May the lord be with you. God bless


The pure in heart shall see god.
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It's that time in our lives where what we thought brought us happiness,that we've been hanging onto,clinging to for dear life sometimes,we realize we need to let go of. It's that time in us where we need to let go of what we thought we knew , and what we thought we wanted, and surrender to the unknown.It means standing there with our hands empty for a while, sometimes watching everything we wanted disappear, our self image, our definition of who we thought we should be, the clones we've created of ourselves, the people we thought we had to have in our lives, the things we thought were so important to collect and surround ourselves with, the job we were certain was our identity, the place we thought we'd live in comfort all our lives and surrender control to the supreme wisdom and authority of GOD and to let the divine light of Jesus enter into our souls. Step into the void with courage. Learn to say, I don't know. That's not blind faith. It's pure faith that will allow GOD and His spirit to lead you wherever your soul wants and needs to go. [link to www.youtube.com]
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