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Do you believe in Christ or do you only believe he exist? To believe he exist is different than to believe in him. Are you an unbeliever?

 
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It's that time in our lives where what we thought brought us happiness,that we've been hanging onto,clinging to for dear life sometimes,we realize we need to let go of. It's that time in us where we need to let go of what we thought we knew , and what we thought we wanted, and surrender to the unknown.It means standing there with our hands empty for a while, sometimes watching everything we wanted disappear, our self image, our definition of who we thought we should be, the clones we've created of ourselves, the people we thought we had to have in our lives, the things we thought were so important to collect and surround ourselves with, the job we were certain was our identity, the place we thought we'd live in comfort all our lives and surrender control to the supreme wisdom and authority of GOD and to let the divine light of Jesus enter into our souls. Step into the void with courage. Learn to say, I don't know. That's not blind faith. It's pure faith that will allow GOD and His spirit to lead you wherever your soul wants and needs to go. [link to www.youtube.com]
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All reality hinges on moral foundations.We live in a moral universe, and there are moral laws of the universe just as abiding as the physical laws but mankind no longer pays any attention to them.When we pick and choose among which of God's laws we choose to obey, we discover later that we have set aside something precious in the process.People need a moral code, to help them make decisions.It's not that we do the right thing and hope it pays off financially;but doing what's morally right by itself is ones biggest payoff because God looks favorably on those who do.............. [link to www.youtube.com]

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I shall take my leave. To all who may be reading: May the lord of the heavens, earth, and sea grant you wisdom, knowledge, and understanding. May he open your eyes so that they may see, your ears to listen, and heart to feel/see. May he protect you as he guides to into the full truth. In the blessed name of jesus. Peace be with you.


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If your cause is right. If your cause is true. If your cause is worthy to you, then pay the price; do not collapse; let nothing overwhelm you. Find a way. If the way is not clearly evident, then bide your time and wait.Be strong and of good courage, to do what you must do for the goal that is right and true. Define yourself radically as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is an illusion.I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear. [link to www.youtube.com]
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Malachi 1:6 - “A son honors his father, and a slave his master. If I am a father, where is the honor due me? If I am a master, where is the respect due me?” says the LORD Almighty. “It is you priests who show contempt for my name. “But you ask, ‘How have we shown contempt for your name?’


Malachi 2:17 - You have wearied the LORD with your words. “How have we wearied him?” you ask. By saying, “All who do evil are good in the eyes of the LORD,and he is pleased with them” or “Where is the God of justice?”


Malachi 3:13-15 - “You have spoken arrogantly against me,” says the LORD. “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’ “You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What do we gain by carrying out his requirements and going about like mourners before the LORD Almighty? But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly evildoers prosper, and even when they put God to the test, they get away with it.’”
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Luke 11:45 - "One of the experts in the law answered him, “Teacher, when you say these things, you insult us also."



Learn about the real jesus. Devils are treated one way and gods children are treated another way. God shows no favoritism. Jesus called people liars, hypocrites, and devils. He called people sheep, goats, foxes, pigs, and dogs. He rebuked and he corrected. He disciplined and he punished. He expeled people from the church as well. He was loving, kind, and generous but you must not forget the wrath of god. All sinners are the enemies of god. His mouth is a great sword that can put a fire in the hearts of men. He exposes the darkness with truth. What is love? Do not confuse right from wrong! Explaint to me why a devil would not be offended by the truth? If I call one a liar to expose it to those around me, is that not love? Should I let a wolf who pretends to be a sheep devour you? Perhaps I should expose it? Why would a devil not get offended if you tell it that it is bad? Why would it not get angry if you discipline it? A devil is a devil. Don't listen to a devil. There must be life in them to be worthy of a sheep to listen. Why should we let you steal our soul? What are you going to do? Huff and puff and blow my house down? You be the judge. Do we obey god or man? Do not fear those who kill the body but he who has power to cast you into hell. Great persecution awaits those who obey our Almighty Father. Have hope, things shall be better in the end for those who believe..in..christ. woe to all you who have exalted yourselves above god! Does it not seem as if his laws are beneath those who refuse to obey? Truly truly I tell you, god shall knock you off that tower. Everyone shall bow before the lord. Either by freewill or by force. Who is as strong as god? Who can defeat the only immortal? Who is like god? Truly I tell you, all of his enemies shall be destroyed.
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Job5:17 Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty.Job6:24 Teach me, and I will hold my tongue: and cause me to understand wherein I have erred.Job10:2 I will say unto God, Do not condemn me; shew me wherefore thou contendest with me.Job9:20 If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse.Job10:15 If I be wicked, woe unto me; and if I be righteous, yet will I not lift up my head. I am full of confusion; therefore see thou mine affliction. [link to www.youtube.com]
There go I except for the grace of God.
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Romans 8:2-8 For the law of the Spirit of life in CHRIST JESUS has set you free from the law of sin and of death.For GOD has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do: by sending HIS own SON in the likeness of sinful flesh, and to deal with sin, HE condemned sin in the flesh, so that the just requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit.To set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.For this reason the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to GOD; it does not submit to GOD'S law—indeed it cannot,and those who are in the flesh cannot please GOD. 1 Peter 2:21 For to this you have been called, because CHRIST also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps. Ephesians 5:1-2 Therefore be imitators of GOD, as beloved children. And walk in love, as CHRIST loved us and gave HIMSELF up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to GOD. [link to www.youtube.com]
There go I except for the grace of God.
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Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.James 1:26 If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 2 Timothy 2:14 Remind them of these things, and charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers. [link to www.youtube.com]
There go I except for the grace of God.
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Much like you, I've come to believe in Jesus about a year ago. Thank you for posting all of this. I know that I have been living in sin despite believing in Jesus. From reading all of the scripture that you've provided, I feel convicted to follow the Father's commandments and to live more like Jesus. I know that I love Jesus, but I have been living a life that is unnacceptable to a believer... Thank you for this my friend, God bless. :)
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Much like you, I've come to believe in Jesus about a year ago. Thank you for posting all of this. I know that I have been living in sin despite believing in Jesus. From reading all of the scripture that you've provided, I feel convicted to follow the Father's commandments and to live more like Jesus. I know that I love Jesus, but I have been living a life that is unnacceptable to a believer... Thank you for this my friend, God bless. :)
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ditto my friend of JESUS [link to www.youtube.com] hf
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I am born again for I have died spiritually many times and have finally obtained the holy ghost within me. I am hated amongst my peers for my word taste sour to them.
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By the way, you should prepare yourselves for the fire. Let it refine you, not destroy you. Embrace it, rejoice in it. Be glad that the lord will discipline those who he loves. Why spare the rod and spoil the child? For some it might be too late.

Ezekiel 15:1-5, 7 - The word of the LORD came to me: Son of man, how is the wood of a vine different from that of a branch from any of the trees in the forest? Is wood ever taken from it to make anything useful? Do they make pegs from it to hang things on? And after it is thrown on the fire as fuel and the fire burns both ends and chars the middle, is it then useful for anything? If it was not useful foranything when it was whole, how much less can it be made into something useful when the fire has burned it and it charred?

Ezekiel 22:18-22 - “Son of man, the people of Israel have become dross to me; all of them are the copper, tin, iron and lead left inside a furnace. They are but the dross of silver. Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: ‘Because you have all become dross, I will gather you into Jerusalem. As silver, copper, iron, lead and tin are gathered into a furnace to be melted with a fiery blast, so will I gather you in my anger and my wrath and put you inside the city and melt you. I will gather you and I will blow on you with my fiery wrath, and you will be melted inside her. As silver is melted in a furnace, so you will be melted inside her, and you will know that I the LORD have poured out my wrath on you.’”

“And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you.” — 1 Peter 5:10
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“As iron sharpens iron, a friend sharpens a friend.”
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People have asked why a perfect god would have to change his perfect law. Well, that's the point. It wasn't the perfect law that was changed.

Ezekiel 20:25-26 - So I gave them other statutes that were not good and laws through which they could not live; I defiled them through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.’
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In this world, is that not a good thing?
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No it's not. Being a whiny little fag is never a good thing.
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Sounds like something the world would say. Are you of this world? Looks like I have spotted a scorpion. What is a scorpion without its poisonous tail? Where is it's sting?
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5a
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Ezekiel 2:6
And you, son of man, do not be afraid of them or their words. Do not be afraid, though briers and thorns are all around you and you live among scorpions. Do not be afraid of what they say or be terrified by them, though they are a rebellious people.


Luke 10:19
I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.



Luke 11:11-13 - “Which of you fathers, if your son asks fora fish, will give him a snake instead? Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

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Bad news, OP. If you're not Mormon then you don't understand the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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1 Peter 2:8 - “A stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.”They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for.

Matthew 3:8-10 - Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.



Luke 19:39-41 - Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Jesus, “Teacher, rebuke your disciples!” “I tell you,” he replied, “if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out.” As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it



Matthew 21:41-43 - “He will bring those wretches to a wretched end,” they replied, “and he will rent the vineyard to other tenants, who will give him his share of the crop at harvest time."Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: “‘The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes? “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.



Isaiah 28:15-17 - You boast, “We have entered into a covenant with death, with the realm of the dead we have made an agreement. When an overwhelming scourge sweeps by, it cannot touch us, for we have made a lie our refuge and falsehood our hiding place.” So this is what the Sovereign Lord says: “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone for a sure foundation; the one who relies on it will never be stricken with panic. I will make justice the measuring line and righteousness the plumb line; hail will sweep away your refuge, the lie, and water will overflow your hiding place.

Romans 9:32 - Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone.

Acts 4:11 - Jesus is“‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’

1 Peter 2:5 - you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

Ezekiel 11:19
I will give them an undivided heart and put a new spirit in them; I will remove from them their heart of stone and give them a heart of flesh.

Ezekiel 36:26
I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.
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Bad news, OP. If you're not Mormon then you don't understand the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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Good news, jesus is not a mormon.
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Well, I don't know about you OP, but someone preformed an exorcism on me today via my karma comments......so I guess I'm good to go now.

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Is the sabbath is truly not on sunday most of these denominations are synagoues of satan. Enough said. I don't care about any of your religions. Jesus is my savior. Not mankind. Oh yeh, as for those who want to fight about the translation of the name of jesus. If it really mattered why the bible verse below?


John 19:19-20 - Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the cross. It read: jesus of nazareth, the king of the jews. 20 Many of the Jews read this sign, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and the sign was written in Aramaic, Latin and Greek.
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Yahoshua was The Nazoraion The beginning teaching was called the Nazoraion, The Way The Disciples.

The problem lies in the fact that Yahoshua never started the Christian faith it was named in Antioch 37 years later. So the people who are Christian is not the issue. The real issue is do you believe in the teachings of The Nazoraion.
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Yahoshua was The Nazoraion The beginning teaching was called the Nazoraion, The Way The Disciples.

The problem lies in the fact that Yahoshua never started the Christian faith it was named in Antioch 37 years later. So the people who are Christian is not the issue. The real issue is do you believe in the teachings of The Nazoraion.
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What is Yahoshua? Who is Yeshua?
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1. Present the Gospel

2. Pray earnestly for people.


Christ: "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him." (John 6: 44)




"And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all.......

"......in humility correcting those who are in opposition...


2 Tim Chp 2
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I should show more gentleness and mercy. I should maybe rebuke less. I was called to be a shepherd but a leader must learn to follow before it can lead. Thank you for the verse. Grace be with you.
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Christians think Jesus will love them just because they keep going on about Jesus.
Thats because Christians love you if you treat them as Gods.
Tell them they are beatiful, wonderful, precious etc and they love you, tell them the truth and they hate you.
So they assume Jesus wants to admired and elevated and once you do that you are saved.
People project themselves onto their religion.
When Jesus comes and refuses to worship their kings, their celebrities, their beats christians will reject him.
When tehir children and families drop dead they will seek his empathy even though they themselves had no empathy for any one else.
So Jesus sent me because he couldnt be bothered this time round to deal with the maggots on earth.
Jesus hates this planet and its inhabitants, he just wants a better planet for people to be able to live better lives.
Anyway I am happy Jesus wont be getting himself killed and tortured again for the sins of a bunch of pigs addicted to television.
I would have been highly offended.
Having walked in his shoes I have come to the conclusion that wishing instant death on antichrists is the only way to achieve anything, problem is there are many antichrists.
Is it easier to leave all the antichrists here and remove humans from earth or the other way round?
I wish I could have met Jesus, he said it was extremely difficult to make it to heaven, its exactly what I wanted to hear. It would have been satisfying for me to watch him tell poeple to get lost!
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yes you are right most catholics and christians arnt christians.their parents had them baptised and so they pretend to be christians for a couple of reasons, one to make their parents happy,two because they have been living this lie all thier lives and they enjoy the company of their friends and those they went to school with.if you asked you will find around 95% of christians know and realise that religion is just like santa,,its all made up,its a lie your parents told you. no one can have a virgin birth or die and come back to life,or live forever.the other 5% are insane and have been brainwashed by their parents and their church.
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Prove it? I know god is real..
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You cannot follow the law. You don't understand how things work. You die to the law. You do not attempt to follow the law after becoming a Christian. Your sole duty is to believe the One whom the Father has sent. You might want to reread Galatians 3. For a good explanation of what is required of Christians...go read Acts 15...no law..only Jesus!

BTW, you are fighting God and turning many people off with these long winded posts. Trying to beat people over the head with Scripture will NOT help them find Jesus!
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You are in error of the scriptures.


Perfection need not change. God has commanded us to keep the Royal Law which is the ten commandments summarized into two. We must keep all ten commandments. Not the law nailed to the cross in Ezekiel 20:25-26, the Levitical Priesthood made nothing perfect. Through that law we become conscience to sin, but it brings death. However, Jesus can perfect us within the Melchizedek Priesthood for he is a High Priest forever. We are saved by grace through faith which is dead without works.
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Christians think Jesus will love them just because they keep going on about Jesus.
Thats because Christians love you if you treat them as Gods.
Tell them they are beatiful, wonderful, precious etc and they love you, tell them the truth and they hate you.
So they assume Jesus wants to admired and elevated and once you do that you are saved.
People project themselves onto their religion.
When Jesus comes and refuses to worship their kings, their celebrities, their beats christians will reject him.
When tehir children and families drop dead they will seek his empathy even though they themselves had no empathy for any one else.
So Jesus sent me because he couldnt be bothered this time round to deal with the maggots on earth.
Jesus hates this planet and its inhabitants, he just wants a better planet for people to be able to live better lives.
Anyway I am happy Jesus wont be getting himself killed and tortured again for the sins of a bunch of pigs addicted to television.
I would have been highly offended.
Having walked in his shoes I have come to the conclusion that wishing instant death on antichrists is the only way to achieve anything, problem is there are many antichrists.
Is it easier to leave all the antichrists here and remove humans from earth or the other way round?
I wish I could have met Jesus, he said it was extremely difficult to make it to heaven, its exactly what I wanted to hear. It would have been satisfying for me to watch him tell poeple to get lost!
 Quoting: Ibrahim


LOVERS OF THEMSELVES, SONS OF SATAN, FOR THEY ARE NOT THE IMAGE OF GOD BUT OF SATAN.


John 6:26 - Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill.


John 7:7 - The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify that its works are evil.


Luke 6:46-49 - “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? As for everyone who comes to me and hears my words and puts them into practice, I will show you what they are like. They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid the foundation on rock. When a flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears my words and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete.”

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