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Do you believe in Christ or do you only believe he exist? To believe he exist is different than to believe in him. Are you an unbeliever?

 
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Kiss the paddle, then move on loving God

He is our Father.

If your own dad knows all you need and helps you, why would our Father in Heaven not discipline us in love.

Like a good parent does.
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Do you love God? Why?
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No, due to ignorance, I do not know what I do. I do the things I don't want to do. Sin dwells inside me. Remember paul? I found out god was truly real around a year ago. I have a lot of catching up to do. I have been a traitor for 25 years and I am a wretched dog! I may be young but that is no excuse. I must know my creator!



Do not listen to me, for dead men don’t talk. I am indeed dead in my sins. Listen to the life in my voice. For the sheep know their masters voice. They do not listen to strangers. They know his voice because they belong to god. Those who do not understand do not belong to god. Either your heart is of stone or flesh. I am a stone, for now. My eyes are unhealthy, how great is the darkness within me! Even the light within me is dark! For a bad tree cannot bear good fruit! For I am blind, trying to see. If I were blind I would not be as guilty of sin as those who can see or claim to see. I am starting to see here and there but I remain ignorant. A stone can blind itself if its eyes are on other things besides god. I must wake up for I remain asleep! I have not been sent yet so I should not teach. I must be sent! I want to expose those who have not gone through the gate. If you pay a false teacher is he not a theif? Read about those teachers who did not go through the gate! Jesus is the gate! Until I am ready to serve, I don’t want you to be tricked by these foxes! I do not know god, nor have I seen him. I am a son of satan for I need to die to sin. I am not a child of god. I am not saved or born again. I do not claim to be a brother for I would be a liar like most who are false brothers and sisters. I am not a christian, for a christian is a disciple. A true disciple shall follow their lord. I remain in my sins therefore I do not love god. As I expose myself, perhaps I shall expose the world around you. If you do not believe me, look for the life in my words. Take everything I say to the new testament. For now that is what I study. I don’t want to study the old until I know the new. I try to speak as if god is speaking through me. I read various translations but the new international version was a gift I could understand. If you notice the words coming out of my mouth you may also notice I am trying to eat these words I read. Some read and its like they look at their own reflection in the mirror and forget what they look like. I am trying to eat the bread of life and drink the living water because I could be the only bible you see. I must transform into the image of jesus to be a son of god. Love is the fulfillment of the law. I must walk in the light as he is in the light for those who follow him shall never walk in darkness. I cannot seek my own righteousness! Only faith shall save me! I need the blood to cleanse me! The purification process takes awhile. The yeast must work its way through the dough. Beware the yeast of liars and hypocrites! I want you to travel with me as I believe our heavenly farther draws me to him. Only those he enables to follow him can do so. I want the world to know jesus is lord. I want to confess that I am trying to serve the first and the last. The beginning and the end. Alpha and omega. The almighty I Am! The word who was in the beginning, who was with god, who was god, and who came into the flesh as the son of god who in very nature is god. God is the only immortal, who no one has seen or can see for he is invisible. Only god is good, there is no darkness in him. All things seen were created by one unseen. For all things were created for him, by him, and through him to whom is worthy alone of all the power, glory, and praise! Holy holy is the most high god who sent his son to die for our sins! Jesus the very image of god was in human form tempted just like us. He was not in some divine flesh? He defeated satan and overcame the world! He rose from the dead among others and was seated on the right side of god being made superior to all things under the father. The lord of our lord is our father. Jesus is lord!







Grace be with you.
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OP: I admire your zeal and hunger for the Truth! You remind me of myself some 2 decades ago when I also set out to find HIM. You are not far from the Kingdom of Yah! Keep on the Path and you will find Him. You are on the path of repentance from dead works in preparation for you entering into the RE-NEWED Covenant through immersion into the TRUE name of the son, Yahushua, and the receiving of Ruah ha Qadosh (Holy Spirit) through the laying on of hands and then to walk in newness of life. You cannot walk in the Covenant alone. It must be Yahusua walking it out for you. With man, nothing is possible. With Yah, all things are possible.

I believe that you will find soon that you must enter into the books of the Law/Commandments and not focus so much on the writings of the "New Covenant" writings. From what you are revealing, it would seem that you have laid a pretty good foundation in understanding the messages contained within. However, you need to treat the Scriptures like a school text book. All of the foundational ideas, concepts and definitions are from the beginning . . . not the end. Who can pass a course with only having read the last third of a school text book? Not many if any at all. You need to lay a strong foundation starting from Genesis. The Law and the Prophets will teach you more than you can possibly imagine about your Savior!

May Yah's blessings and understandings be with you continually! Shalom . . .
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Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments. It is all about your relationship with Jesus. He also said that God the Father will not judge us because all judgment has been handed over to the sun.

People need to stop looking at each other and being angry because the words that Christ sent to them through another offended them. Judge yourself. No man can look into his heart and justify himself with what he finds therein. You know that you are guilty as hell. You know that you deserve separation from God. You deserve death and hell. We all do. If you think otherwise, then you are arrogant and deceive yourself. We are all filthy in our own conscience. Only Christ in us and living through us and fulfilling the Law spiritually for us can redeem us unto God. It is a great mystery and hard to see how any can be saved. But through Christ Jesus all things are possible. Work on that relationship. It is the most important thing.
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Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

And what does this bit of scripture mean to you?
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Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

And what does this bit of scripture mean to you?
 Quoting: THE WORDSMITH


2 Chronicles 18:13-22 - But Micaiah said, “As surely as the LORD lives, I can tell him only what my God says.” When he arrived,the king asked him, “Micaiah, shall we go to war against Ramoth Gilead, or shall I not?” “Attack and be victorious,” he answered, “for they will be given into your hand.” The king said to him, “How many times must I make you swear to tell me nothing but the truth in the name of the LORD?” Then Micaiah answered, “I saw all Israel scattered on the hills like sheep without a shepherd, and the LORD said, ‘These people have no master. Let each one go home in peace.’” The king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, “Didn’t I tell you that he never prophesies anything good about me, but only bad?” Micaiah continued, “Therefore hear the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne with all the multitudes of heaven standing on his right and on his left. And the LORD said, ‘Who will entice Ahab king of Israel into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?’ “One suggested this, and another that. Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’ “‘By what means?’ the LORD asked. “‘I will go and be a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,’ he said. “‘You will succeed in enticing him,’ said the LORD. ‘Go and do it.’ “So now the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you.”



Luke 22:31 - "Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat.


1 Corinthians 5:3-5 -For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh,so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.



2 Corinthians 12:7-8 -Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me.


Hebrews 12:11 - No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.


Romans 5:3-5 -Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. And hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.

Job 27:1-6 - And Job continued his discourse:  “As surely as God lives, who has denied me justice, the Almighty, who has made my life bitter, as long as I have life within me, the breath of God in my nostrils, my lips will not say anything wicked, and my tongue will not utter lies. I will never admit you are in the right; till I die, I will not deny my integrity. I will maintain my innocence and never let go of it; my conscience will not reproach me as long as I live.

 

 

Job 42:7-8 - After the Lord had said these things to Job, he said to Eliphaz the Temanite, “I am angry with you and your two friends, because you have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has. So now take seven bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and sacrifice a burnt offering for yourselves. My servant Job will pray for you, and I will accept his prayer and not deal with you according to your folly. You have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has.”
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The Bible is true. It contains the Word of God: Love. The problem with many is that they worship the Bible and not Jesus. It's a scroll, sweet to the tongue but bitter to the stomach. John knew it was coming, he warned us. You could burn every Bible and still not touch the word of God, for it is in my heart, my soul, my every breath. I may not always be obedient to it, that is why I pray without ceasing.
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lol...religion.. how precious
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Who is righteous? Are you?
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OP be more plain and clear

Shorten your text

Speak truth

The Lord is with you

1 John 5:18-19 (KJV)
[18] We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. [19] And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
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Who is righteous? Are you?
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Who is righteous? Are you?
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Jesus is righteous

Are you in Jesus and He in you?
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Who is righteous? Are you?
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Who is righteous? Are you?
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Jesus is righteous

Are you in Jesus and He in you?
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You get it.
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Who is righteous? Are you?
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Who is righteous? Are you?
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Jesus is righteous

Are you in Jesus and He in you?
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You get it.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


God Bless
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Salvation

How to get "Saved":

I guess the first thing is to want to get "Saved", but i suspect that alone is all you need.

Then all that is left for you to do is to say, "THANK YOU SWEET JESUS.

Once and done.

Continued here:
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Understand the need

The seeking and the cry to God

Repent turn and ask

The touch by the hand from heaven

Only you can experience your God and know
you have been washed cleaned and forgiven

You will experience Joy

Peace in your soul brings Joy

Joy will be your rudder to obedience

The Joy of The Lord is your strength

Jesus is my Lord I have been born again
into His kingdom washed in the blood of
His obedience unto death.

He died that might live.
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Kiss the paddle, then move on loving God

He is our Father.

If your own dad knows all you need and helps you, why would our Father in Heaven not discipline us in love.

Like a good parent does.
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Baptised with the holy spirit and fire. :)
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Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments. It is all about your relationship with Jesus. He also said that God the Father will not judge us because all judgment has been handed over to the son.

People need to stop looking at each other and being angry because the words that Christ sent to them through another offended them. Judge yourself. No man can look into his heart and justify himself with what he finds therein. You know that you are guilty as hell. You know that you deserve separation from God. You deserve death and hell. We all do. If you think otherwise, then you are arrogant and deceive yourself. We are all filthy in our own conscience. Only Christ in us and living through us and fulfilling the Law spiritually for us can redeem us unto God. It is a great mystery and hard to see how any can be saved. But through Christ Jesus all things are possible. Work on that relationship. It is the most important thing.
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ohyeah
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A couple of parting verses for consideration:

"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." Matthew 18:6

“But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:36-37
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A couple of parting verses for consideration:

"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." Matthew 18:6

“But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:36-37
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Thank you, I hope my words are not idle, unwholesome, vain, godless, ungodly, obscene, or sinful. I hope I am not causing anyone to sin due to ungoliness. If they stumble because of the light than they were destined to do so.
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A couple of parting verses for consideration:

"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." Matthew 18:6

“But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:36-37
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Thank you, I hope my words are not idle, unwholesome, vain, godless, ungodly, obscene, or sinful. I hope I am not causing anyone to sin due to ungoliness. If they stumble because of the light than they were destined to do so.
 Quoting: Harbinger Of Truth


Don't ask me that question. Don't ask yourself that question. Our opinions don't count.
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A couple of parting verses for consideration:

"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." Matthew 18:6

“But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:36-37
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Thank you, I hope my words are not idle, unwholesome, vain, godless, ungodly, obscene, or sinful. I hope I am not causing anyone to sin due to ungoliness. If they stumble because of the light than they were destined to do so.
 Quoting: Harbinger Of Truth


Don't ask me that question. Don't ask yourself that question. Our opinions don't count.
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Just hoping..
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what i know is that knowledge without wisdom is like a body without a spirit!
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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Love Christ. Love one another.

"They" lost me at circumcision and blood sacrifice.

Did Christ ever refer to his "father" as the god of Israel?

No.

Why?

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I praise God this this thread and I have only read the first post and the scripture references.
I too am a sinner saved by grace and fallen still short of my calling for many years. (I bless/praise God for His mercy.)
This past month I have yet again been cleaning my house and drawing nearer to God.
Again thank you.
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Luke 16:26 'And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'


Anyone who says they went to hell and back are lying.
End of story.
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OP I would like to hear your story.

How did you find God?

Or did God find you?
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I praise God this this thread and I have only read the first post and the scripture references.
I too am a sinner saved by grace and fallen still short of my calling for many years. (I bless/praise God for His mercy.)
This past month I have yet again been cleaning my house and drawing nearer to God.
Again thank you.
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Thank you for your comment. A lot of should clean out our homes. Who will learn from this?
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In the skies..sylphs/air elementals hf
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At one point in my past I thought so, however, its not in the bible. So I ignore strange teachings to a certain degree.
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Luke 16:26 'And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.'


Anyone who says they went to hell and back are lying.
End of story.
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Perhaps, maybe a dream or vision?
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Why is it that I try to teach with the bible? I am trying to help save people from hell. Yet as you read this thread, if I am so self condemned why do you not teach me? BRING YOUR BIBLE. WHERE IS THE LIFE IN YOUR VOICES? Bring proof or leave me alone. You can quote me here in this thread. It isn't that hard? Do you love me?




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