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Do you believe in Christ or do you only believe he exist? To believe he exist is different than to believe in him. Are you an unbeliever?

 
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Who is the Hamburger of Truth?
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What? English is my main language. My question to you is this, CAN JESUS BE SEEN? IS HE INVISIBLE LIKE THE FATHER?



Hebrews 11:3 - By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
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Jesus can choose to be visible or not at this point in time. I also am not certain it is relevant to whether you believe Jesus is a created being or the actual creator.
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I agree with you. Some Christians argue they are the true Christians for believing in Jesus to be God in flesh.

As other Christians argue they are the true Christians for believing in Jesus to be separate but still very important.

I to believe that this is irrelevant and as long as you hold dear to his commandments of the greatest commandments of love God and then love your neighbor.

The argument in itself is irrelevant as long as you believe in Jesus. You are a wise one indeed that does not divide but guide to him.
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Trust in Jesus, confess and repent of your sins. Do this daily. Produce fruit by following Christs example. Obey His laws. Love Him and others. Hurt no one. You can lose your salvation. Endure until the end. Give up the fleshly desired of this world. Don't wait to get rid of your sins first. He came to heal the sick. Allow Jesus into your heart first. He will convict you with the sword of truth and help you get rid of those sins. It will hurt, maybe worse than losing a finger or an eye, of even your life. But it is far better to go to Heaven maimed, then Hell whole.
God bless! Love!
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Trust in Jesus, confess and repent of your sins. Do this daily. Produce fruit by following Christs example. Obey His laws. Love Him and others. Hurt no one. You can lose your salvation. Endure until the end. Give up the fleshly desired of this world. Don't wait to get rid of your sins first. He came to heal the sick. Allow Jesus into your heart first. He will convict you with the sword of truth and help you get rid of those sins. It will hurt, maybe worse than losing a finger or an eye, of even your life. But it is far better to go to Heaven maimed, then Hell whole.
God bless! Love!
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May they heed your instruction. Grace be with you. Thanks.
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Do you fear the Lord Almighty? You should..
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Greater love hath no man, than he give it up for others. Turn the other cheek. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Now reread thou shalt not kill or murder. Never end another life. How can you do that and still love? Is self defense out of rage,anger, or love. Not for the person you kill! Israel didn't listen, the Catholics didn't listen, the Christians didn't listen, and now the Muslims aren't listening. Actually, Muslims are practicing a lot of what Israel did it Biblical time whith regards to stoning laws. Look for who is getting murdered for there faith and not fighting back. They may be on to something! Look for good fruit, not concerned with money or anything of the flesh, or of this world. Don't put God in a gold box, or stick Him in the ground. Pick up that cross and bear it. I go to churches and ask them "who left there cross outside, let us help them". You don't need a cross to remember Jesus. He ain't there anymore. He should be in you heart, not your front yard! Remember what He did, not what we did to Him, or you will repeat it.
God bless.
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Greater love hath no man, than he give it up for others. Turn the other cheek. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Now reread thou shalt not kill or murder. Never end another life. How can you do that and still love? Is self defense out of rage,anger, or love. Not for the person you kill! Israel didn't listen, the Catholics didn't listen, the Christians didn't listen, and now the Muslims aren't listening. Actually, Muslims are practicing a lot of what Israel did it Biblical time whith regards to stoning laws. Look for who is getting murdered for there faith and not fighting back. They may be on to something! Look for good fruit, not concerned with money or anything of the flesh, or of this world. Don't put God in a gold box, or stick Him in the ground. Pick up that cross and bear it. I go to churches and ask them "who left there cross outside, let us help them". You don't need a cross to remember Jesus. He ain't there anymore. He should be in you heart, not your front yard! Remember what He did, not what we did to Him, or you will repeat it.
God bless.
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May god bless you, if he is willing. Thank you for your message.
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Thank you for this. I have some reading and soul searching to do.
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Thank you for these passages and things to contemplate. I know I have the spirit of a sinner. I pray that the Lord overwhelms me and I am able to submit to his authority. I fear that I say I love Jesus, but my works do not back my words up. Again, thank you for this.
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if I understand u correctly ur saying that the fruits of true salvation is keeping the commandments of God. If you truly accept Jesus then the Holy Spirit will along with ur willingness will give you the ability to keep His commandments. Maybe Im wrong..is this what your trying to say. are you saying since Christian are not keeping His commandments then that means they really didn't accept Him in the first place or else there would be action as a result.

this discussion reminds me of the quality/characteristics of the saints spoken in revelation...the ones that will endure. it says:

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

so the question is which commandments of God is this talking about. Is it the 10 commandments? Some new ones? maybe only some of the 10 commandments? And what does the phrase "faith of jesus" mean?
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35 And it came to pass, that as he was come nigh unto Jericho, a certain blind man sat by the way side begging:

36 And hearing the multitude pass by, he asked what it meant.

37 And they told him, that Jesus of Nazareth passeth by.

38 And he cried, saying, Jesus, thou son of David, have mercy on me.

39 And they which went before rebuked him, that he should hold his peace: but he cried so much the more, Thou son of David, have mercy on me.

40 And Jesus stood, and commanded him to be brought unto him: and when he was come near, he asked him,

41 Saying, What wilt thou that I shall do unto thee? And he said, Lord, that I may receive my sight.

42 And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee.

43 And immediately he received his sight, and followed him, glorifying God: and all the people, when they saw it, gave praise unto God.
(Luke 18 )

Got a need? Call upon Jesus! He hears every cry that comes from the heart (see Scripture Verses above). He will heal you and Save your soul in the process.

Our God is a GOOD GOD!!! Others may ignore your plea. Jesus will not.

Thank you Jesus!
"This nut won't crack."
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Thank you for these passages and things to contemplate. I know I have the spirit of a sinner. I pray that the Lord overwhelms me and I am able to submit to his authority. I fear that I say I love Jesus, but my works do not back my words up. Again, thank you for this.
 Quoting: Luke25


Their are monks that spend 20 or more years praying and reading their Bible, waiting on getting "overwhelmed" by the Lord.

If you are hungry, He is the Bread of Life. If you are thirsty, He is the Living Water in the well that never runs dry.
"This nut won't crack."
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So we got rid of God, killed His Son, and now are rejecting His Spirit and you have the gall to ask why doesn't He save us all and heal everyone? He is trying! We want free-will. We want to be a god on our terms not His. He would have if we didn't kill the flesh of God, Jesus. He heals our spirit now. Yes He can still work miracles today. Happens everyday. You just need the faith of a mustard seed. We're in the bottom of the ninth with two outs and two strikes against us. You diss God and wonder why He doesn't save us. Therein is your answer.
God bless.
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I am a Christian, who has already experienced hell-like experiences after smoking Salvia and obviously letting that backdoor open. Satan, although he is a liar, told me I am going to hell when I die, showed me my dark future which I'm living today, trust me when I say that the devil is real and is powerful. People underestimate him.
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I am a Christian, who has already experienced hell-like experiences after smoking Salvia and obviously letting that backdoor open. Satan, although he is a liar, told me I am going to hell when I die, showed me my dark future which I'm living today, trust me when I say that the devil is real and is powerful. People underestimate him.
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BOOK OF JOB
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If you must, be slow to anger and rebuke someone with love. Don't cuss them out. Convict them with truth. To really judge someone, you must shed there blood and kill them. You take away there chance at salvation. You will be judged for that accordingly by God. There blood will be on your hands. Evil people will kill themselves off. The love of God scares them. They will judge you and try to kill you. They will judge (or kill) many true Christians. They will receive a fate worse than death. Worse than man made pictures of death. They will be darkness. In the presence of light they will disappear. God will not know them because He can't even see them. For them, this is it. In our quest for knowledge, we have turned His creation into Hell! Would it be so bad if all you knew how to do was love? Like a child.
God bless!
Matthew from GA
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Praying for you as well Isaac. Thank you brother. Stay strong. Getting ready to go "fishing" soon.
God bless.
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Philippians 2

Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
"This nut won't crack."
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2 Corinthians 10:3-6 New International Version (NIV)

3 For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. 4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. 6 And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience, once your obedience is complete.
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"For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself."

(Galatians 6: 3 KJV )
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"For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself."

(Galatians 6: 3 KJV )
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We are nothing with Love. Nothing without God. He is the alpha and omega. The very air we breathe. Without him all is meaningless.
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without love*



Without love we are just a common item eventually cast into the trash can never again to see the light of day.
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"For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself."

(Galatians 6: 3 KJV )
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We are nothing with Love. Nothing without God. He is the alpha and omega. The very air we breathe. Without him all is meaningless.
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We would be nothing without the Holy Scriptures as well, for without the Bible (the same one you referred to as without power, we would have no true ability to know what is Truth and what is error. Men are as fickle as the weather but God's Word (KJV Bible) is as stable as the Cornerstone that holds up our Faith.

Perhaps you are young (I suspect so) and still learning about the precious Gift of the Holy Scriptures... It is easy to take them for granted when your life is not in danger of possessing it - There are places upon this earth where you would not so lightly esteem the Holy Scriptures if you knew that at any moment you may have to lay down your life or the lives of your loved ones if it be found in your possession.
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"For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself."

(Galatians 6: 3 KJV )
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We are nothing with Love. Nothing without God. He is the alpha and omega. The very air we breathe. Without him all is meaningless.
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We would be nothing without the Holy Scriptures as well, for without the Bible (the same one you referred to as without power, we would have no true ability to know what is Truth and what is error. Men are as fickle as the weather but God's Word (KJV Bible) is as stable as the Cornerstone that holds up our Faith.

Perhaps you are young (I suspect so) and still learning about the precious Gift of the Holy Scriptures... It is easy to take them for granted when your life is not in danger of possessing it - There are places upon this earth where you would not so lightly esteem the Holy Scriptures if you knew that at any moment you may have to lay down your life or the lives of your loved ones if it be found in your possession.
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Paul was given a revelation. He was not taught by men. Moses saw God face to face. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob? When you get the holy spirit it shall teach you.
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This thread is a wild ride. Like life. Know Christ today. Be free. Peace be with you.
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This thread is a wild ride. Like life. Know Christ today. Be free. Peace be with you.
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grace be with you
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9 Jesus also told this parable to people who were sure of their own goodness and despised everybody else. 10 “Once there were two men who went up to the Temple to pray: one was a Pharisee, the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood apart by himself and prayed, ‘I thank you, God, that I am not greedy, dishonest, or an adulterer, like everybody else. I thank you that I am not like that tax collector over there. 12 I fast two days a week, and I give you one tenth of all my income.’

13 But the tax collector stood at a distance and would not even raise his face to heaven, but beat on his breast and said, ‘God, have pity on me, a sinner!’ 14 I tell you,” said Jesus, “the tax collector, and not the Pharisee, was in the right with God when he went home. For those who make themselves great will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be made great.”

-- Luke 18:9-14
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I love this one the most or close to the most. It brings tears to my eyes and gives me hope.
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9 Jesus also told this parable to people who were sure of their own goodness and despised everybody else. 10 “Once there were two men who went up to the Temple to pray: one was a Pharisee, the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood apart by himself and prayed, ‘I thank you, God, that I am not greedy, dishonest, or an adulterer, like everybody else. I thank you that I am not like that tax collector over there. 12 I fast two days a week, and I give you one tenth of all my income.’

13 But the tax collector stood at a distance and would not even raise his face to heaven, but beat on his breast and said, ‘God, have pity on me, a sinner!’ 14 I tell you,” said Jesus, “the tax collector, and not the Pharisee, was in the right with God when he went home. For those who make themselves great will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be made great.”

-- Luke 18:9-14
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I love this one the most or close to the most. It brings tears to my eyes and gives me hope.
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Justification is different than salvation. Yes, it gives me hope as well.
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This thread is bad and you should feel bad.
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It's just a thread. :)
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herald



2.
a person or thing that precedes or comes before; forerunner; harbinger: the returning swallows, those heralds of spring.

3.
a person or thing that proclaims or announces: A good newspaper should be a herald of truth.
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If you love God enough to read the bible maybe you can atleast read the first paragraph?


How does one go through Jesus - Rom 8:10 - to the Father - Rom 8:11?


The Godseed is imperishable unlike the seed before it
- John 6:65-66; 1 john 2:19; 3:19; 1 Peter 1:23. Jesus died, as in perishable, corruptible. - 2 Corinthians 5:21 . You will need the Fathers incorruptible seed to be saved. - 1 john 1:5; Hebrews 12:28-29 It comes after the baptism of Fire. - Matthew 3:11-12; 1 Corinthians 3:12-14; Mark 9:43; 1 peter 1:7; Luke 12:49. Those baptized with the spirit can indeed fall away. - 2 Tim 1:14; Luke 11:24-26; Heb 6:4-8. Beware planting ones seed near the path, rock, and thorns -Mark 4:3-20. Baptism of water, spirit, and fire - mark 1:4; 9:49; Acts 5:32. Read the book of Job to understand the baptism of Fire. When he passed the test did he see God - Job 42:5; 1 Peter 4:12? We must pass the test - Matthew 4:1; 2 Corinthians 13:5-6; James 1:12. Well, Jesus appeared to many after his death - Acts 1:3; 1 Corinthians 15:6. He shall do the same to those who love him today - john 14:23. You must be sealed and adopted. See God, then you will be saved, born again, and a child of God. | Romans 8:19, 23; Hebrews 9:27-28; 1 Corinthians 1:7; 3:16; 9:24; 13:9-13; 15:6-8; John 1:18; 6:37-40; 14:7, 19-23; 1 John 1:1-4; 2:3-4, 28; 3:2-6, 10; Colossians 1:22; 2:11-15; 3:4; 1 Timothy 6:12-16; 2 Timothy 1:9-10; 2:19; Titus 1:16; 3:4-7; 2 Timothy 4:8; 1 peter 1:18-20; 5:4; Matthew 5:8; 6:33; 11:27; 13:3-23; 28:7, 10; Luke 2:26-30; 8:5-16; 10:22; 11:35; 20:3-4; Ephesians 1:4-6; Acts 18:25; 2 Thess 1:8; Philippians 3:10-11; Mark 16:11, 14; Romans 2:12 1 Corinthians 15:41-55; 1 Peter 3:20-22; Romans 6:3-5; 7:12; 8:10-11; John 8:21-23; Mark 10:38; Lamentations 3:25; Jeremiah 12:3; Isaiah 55:5-7; 64:3-5; Psalms 17:15; 27:4,6, 8; 105:4; Job 42:5; 1 Chronicles 16:10-11; 2 Chronicles 7:13-15; 2 Kings 6:16-18; 1 Samuel 3:1,7,21; Judges 13:21-23; Deuteronomy 32:20; Numbers 12:5-9; Exodus 6:2-4; 33:19-21; 34:29 - John 6:39-40 - Jude 1:14 19; Ezekiel 18:30-31; Philippians 3:4-9; Ephesians 1:3-5; 4:4-6; 1 john 3:9, 24; 5:1; John 3:16; 1 Thess 3:13; 4:7; Hebrews 2:11; 7:26; 10:14; 11:39-40; 12:14, 22-24; 1 peter 1:15-16; 2:9; 1 john 2:20; 2 Corinthians 7:1; John 13:15; Ephesians 4:23-25; 5:1; Matthew 5:48| Do not let the sinners lie to you or anyone else. They are not saved, born again, or a child of God. They are not believers, brothers, or sisters. They have not seen him, nor do they love him or know him. To believe is to love God. To love God is to obey him. Those who believe are born of God. To be born again, one does not sin. One must be-in-christ in order to believe-in-him to be saved. One must be-in-christ in order to do things in-christ-name. Seek the face of God! - John 14:18


I am sorry to inform you that God has blinded those who are perishing and there are many among you. Do not give what is sacred to dogs nor cast pearls to pigs or they may trample on them and attack you. Do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. This is war and there is only one god, it’s not satan, and you may just be surrounded by liars. How many will use Gods creations against him? So why should he help them to do so? Remember the history! Remember the times of Noah! When Jesus returns will there be faith? What is this great delusion? Is it possible that you believe in a false Christ in which a world teaches instead of a heavenly Christ? Please, your life depends on this. Instead of shutting out new ideas, read your bible to see if they are true! Yes, I encourage you to read your bible and compare translations. Connect the dots and use your knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. Is there a chance that blind guides have told you lies? Why don't you see for yourself? Keep in mind that the devil can be very devious. If I am wrong, feel free to correct me. Bring the truth or nothing at all. I shall try to provide as much proof as I decide to, in order to avoid error.| 2 Cori 3:14, 4:4, John 9:39, 41; 12:37-41; 2 Thess 2:10-12; Matthew 7:6; 13:10-17; Ezekiel 12:2; Mark 4:12; Luke 8:10; Romans 11:8; Isaiah 29:10; Proverbs 28:9; Revelations 22:18; 1 Corinthians 15:2| We must believe in the full testimony god has given about his son. Anyone who believes in a lie is calling god a liar. Many shall hate me because Jesus has testified that the ways of the world is evil. Since he is the way, truth, and life, I shall do the same. | 1 John 5:1-12; Eph 4:20-24; 5:1; John 7:7; 13:15; 1 Cori11:1; Phil 3:17; 2 Thess 3:7; 1 Tim 4:12; Titus 2:7; 1 Pet 2:21 |


Allow me to explain: In the beginning god created man in his image but that man fell from the glory of god, as a result he was exiled from Eden. Therefore, all have sinned and fell short of the glory of god through one man’s disobedience. A sinner is not created in the image of god. Is that not the image of satan? Well, Jesus was created, he is the image of God and he is perfect. For everything seen was created by one unseen and one can clearly see Jesus. To see Jesus is to see the Father. As for god, I shall try to explain how I see the Most High God. The Most High God, the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords; the Lord, of the heavens, earth, and sea. He is the only immortal and can never die. He is invisible, no one has ever seen our heavenly father, nor will anyone ever see him. The godhead is the father, son, and holy spirit which are one deity, different forms. I have come to believe that when the holy spirit of the invisible god fully dwells inside a “image,” of his choice, it could become the voice of God in the world, the representative of the Father, a form we can see with our own eyes. I believe in the past, this image was not born of humanity. Perhaps a angel of the Lord? Some individuals saw a image, like the following people, Adam, eve, Abraham, Moses, job, etc etc. I believe this could be Melchizedek, one of many names, who has no beginning or end. He simply was. However, the image born of the blessed virgin Mary was born into the flesh, tempted by sin. The word was in the beginning, it was with god, it was god, and it entered into human flesh dwelling among us. God became a son of man. He was human but in very nature, God. For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority. Anyone who denies the Father as the Son, and the Son as the Father, is an anti-christ. That means anyone who denies Jesus as God in the flesh! Jesus shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Jesus is the head and the Lord of our Lord is our Father, that is, if you obey him. How can you call one Lord if you rebel against them? So, imagine a invisible god with many forms like a burning bush. He may have many names and forms, ask yourself this, why did the disciples not notice who Jesus was, when he talked with them after his death? Why would he have to reveal himself? Who is in revelation if it is not the first and the last? I shall try to put this in a worldly point of view but its not the truth. Just something that may help one comprehend things. Imagine a programmer and the program. The programmer has complete control. Turn a video game on and create a character. Those inside the game will not see the one on the outside. Notice how he is his character yet he is not? He can make as many characters as he wants. He is the programmer. He has a covenant with the sun and moon so that they may keep their appointed times. What else has a covenant? What are the laws of nature? Does a video game have any “laws?” Well, you have the creator and the creation. It’s simple, we were created. He who was, is, and shall be, was not. He has power and dominion over all things. All things are under his control, even your heart. He may choose to harden your heart or soften it. He will have mercy on whom he will have mercy. Compassion on whom he will have compassion. He does as he pleases. He simply is, all things were created by him, for him, and through him, to whom is worthy of all the power, glory, and praise! Holy Holy Holy is the most high god! He does not change like shifting shadows. Why would perfection ever change? He is good and there is no darkness in him. He is not of God of confusion. Be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect, spiritually perfect, be holy for he is holy. Without holiness no one shall see the lord.


What glory did one fall from? Seek the face of God. You must be transformed into the image of Christ who is the image of god. Therefore, since we have fallen from the glory of god we must return. | Romans 3:23; 5:12-19; 9:14-22; 12:1-2; John 14:6-10; 1 Timothy 1:17; 6:15-16; Colossians 2:9-10; Isaiah 9:6; 2 John 1:7-11; Ephesians 3:14-21; 4:20-24; Luke 24:15-32; Jeremiah 33:25-26; Psalms 115:3; 135:6; Malachi 3:6; Numbers 23:19; James 1:17; 1 John 1:5; Matthew 5:48; 1 Corinthians 14:33; Hebrews 11:3; 12:14; 2 Corinthians 3:16-18; Philippians 3:20-21 | So, how can we return? We are saved by grace, through faith, which is dead, without works. You do know one is declared righteous by what they do and not faith or grace alone? |Titus 1:16; Ephesians 2:10; John 6:28; James 2:17; James 2:14-26; Romans 3:28; Jeremiah 9:4-6; John 7:7; 8:41; 9:4 10:37; Romans 3:20; 11:6; Nehemiah 9:26; Numbers 14:9, 18; Deuteronomy 1:43 | Don't let people lie to you. Jesus died on the cross, therefore a man is justified by faith, apart from the works of the law. Justification is just that, justification. However, faith and works are both a requirement to be saved. Works of the law is complete and total obedience to god. That could be anything he commands. Let his will be done, but this cannot save us for we have already sinned. The punishment for such criminal activity is death. Therefore we are already found guilty. That is why we are under grace for if we were under the law how would you have the ability to escape the death penalty from a just judge? He is waiting on us to change in order to give us a pardon from him, the King. We can stop sinning, but if we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. How can a criminal claim to have never committed a crime? Sin is transgressions against the law. We were born in sin, we have already broken the law. We are already criminals on death row. So how can we ever claim to have never committed a crime? Hence Christ had to condemn sin or we would be condemn to death. The verdict is lifted once you possess the gift of salvation. A pardon you can say. It cannot be earned. It is a gift from the judge to let one walk as long as they do as he commands. If you continue to commit crimes what is stopping the judge from giving you the death penalty? You will surely die! Faith is trusting in god, that he cannot lie. That the judge shall keep his word for he never changes. Perfection need not change. God has commanded us to keep the Royal Law which is the ten commandments summarized into two. We must keep all ten commandments. Not the law nailed to the cross in Ezekiel 20:25-26, the Leviticus Priesthood made nothing perfect. For he gave everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. |Romans 11:35| Through that law we become conscience to sin, but it brings death. Please do not confuse the laws, dead or alive. However, Jesus can perfect us within the Melchizedek Priesthood for he is a High Priest forever. One can be like their teacher but not greater. Is your master the devil? | Matthew 10:25; Luke 6:40|The royal law has always been. It shall never change. |John 1:1| The Word was in the beginning. Love god with all your mind, body, soul, and strength. Love your neighbor. There is one way, truth, and life. Jesus is the only way to the father. Be still and know that he is the one and only god! You are either with him or against him. Friend or foe, life or death, make your choice. Stop sinning or face the wrath of god! | Ephesians 2:8; John 14:6;1 Peter 4:18; Ephesians 2:8; James 2:26; Romans 8:3-4 |


One can believe Jesus exist without believing- in - Jesus. To “believe - in - Jesus,” one must believe he exist, have true faith and be - in - Jesus. Look for the wordplay. Accept the full truth, not part of it. According to 1 John 3:24, to be - in - Jesus one must love god. To love god is to obey god, according to John 14:21-24. See, Luke 3:21-22; Jesus was baptized and received the spirit as he prayed. He was already sinless so no need to repent. Repentance means to stop sinning. In certain translations did Jesus not say SIN NO MORE? STOP.SINNING OR SOMETHING WORSE MAY HAPPEN TO YOU? Well, I assume he could of asked for the spirit. The spirit is only given to the obedient according to Acts 5:32. So, we should know that a righteous mans prayer is powerful and effective. So those who obey God, those in-the-name, shall ask anything within his will and receive it. A sinners prayer is known to fail. | Psalm 34:15-16; 66:18, 20; Proverbs 15:29; James 5:16; 2 Chronicles 7:14; Lamentations 3:8, 41-44; Zechariah 7:11-13; John 9:31-33; Jeremiah 11:10-11; 1 Peter 3:12; Hebrews 5:7; 1 John 3:21-21 | So do as it tells you to do according to acts 2:38-39, repent of works that lead to death then be baptized in the name of Jesus. How are you in Jesus again? 1 john 3:24, says those who do as he commands. You cannot sin and obey at the same time. So this may explain why many people do things by saying “in the name of Jesus,” only to see it fail. Many don't have the spirit? They don't have the power within them. Its more than just words. |Luke 10:19-20;Mark 16:15-20; James 2:8; Matthew 5:17-18 , 7:12, 22:34-40; Romans 2:12-15, 3:20, 31; 4:14-16; 5:13; 6:15; 8:2; Galatians 6:2|


P.s. If I can get good karma maybe I can pin this because it is very important.


Did you know to believe is to obey? To believe is to be born again? To believe in to love God? To believe is to not sin? You must be-in-Christ. - 1 john 3:24 - You must love God. - John 14:23-24 - You must repent. Stop sinning. - John 5:14 - Repent of acts that lead to death. - Hebrews 6:1 - Stop committing deadly acts, get in-Christ in order to be baptized in-Christ name. - Acts 2:38-39 -To believe is to love and be born again. - 1 john 5:1 - To be born again is to not sin. - 1 john 5:18 - One must be-in-christ to love God. One must be-in-christ to worship-in-spirit and truth. One must be-in-christ to pray in-his-name. One must be-in-christ in order to be born again, a brother or sister, a child of god. One must be-in-christ in order to believe-in-christ to be saved. Those not-in-christ do not have the holy spirit. To do miracles, do you have to be-in-christ? What did jesus mean night is coming when no one can work? Strike the shepherd and the sheep scatter? Can a bad tree bear good fruit? So, get in jesus and get baptized. |Acts 2:38-39 2 Corinthians 13:5; 1 John 5:1| You must be in jesus to do things in the name of jesus. Do you understand? Many do not have the spirit for they are lead by mere instincts. Many seem to have the baptism of the john the Baptist. Not that of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. If you are in a state of repentance that is not complete, you are in the baptism of John. The baptism of water. See: Acts 19:1-7. Finish you repentance of acts that lead to death, then enter the baptism of the spirit. Allow them to lay hands on you. Pray to the Father that you may receive the spirit. Once you are baptized by the holy spirit expect the baptism of fire. Once you enter the baptism of fire, keep holding your cross. Read the BOOK OF JOB. You shall be refined like gold. Was jesus made perfect in his suffering? Its like boot camp but worse. God wants the best of the best. Hopefully your seed is not planted among the path, rock, or thorns. You will need loyalty to him above all else. Above even the things he may do to you. Hebrews 6:4-8, please make sure that you count the cost of the tower! - Luke 14:25-34. Have you read the book of Job? Sifting of the devil? The refiners fire? One is perfected through suffering. You must past the test. Who did Job see when he passed the test? |1 john 1:1; 2 Timothy 2:3; Psalm 147:3; Psalm 34:18; Proverbs 11:31; ; Acts 5:41; Romans 8:17-18; 1 Corinthians 4:11-13, 13:4-7, 15:58; 2 Corinthians 1:6-7, 7:10, 8:21; ; Galatians 4:18-20; Philippians 3:10-11; 2 Thessalonians 1:5; 1 Thessalonians 1:6 ; 1 Timothy 4:8; 2 Timothy 1:8, 3:12-13; Hebrews 10:32, 12:7, 11; James 1:9; 1 Peter 2:19, 21; 4:13; 5:9; Isaiah 57:1-2 | Pick up your cross, it can perfect you if you allow it to do so. Repent means to stop committing sins. You have been warned. Repent or perish.


One must believe and be-in-Jesus, to believe-in-Jesus. Those who BELIEVE-IN-JESUS, are saved, born again, and a child of God. They know God, love him, and have seen him. Are you a disciple of john or a false disciple of christ? Maybe you are true? Are you a false brother or sister? As he appeared after his death to those who loved him he shall do the same today to those who love him. The world cannot see him or know him, nor the spirit. The pure in heart shall see Jesus. The world cannot see him but those called out of the world can. According to the verses I have provided below, can you honestly say you are adopted? Have you seen him? If not, you are not saved, born again, or a child of god. He is not your friend, , nor do you love him or know him. He is not your Lord, Head, or God for you have yet to become worthy of him. Until you see him, you belong to satan, the father of lies. You belong to this world for you are worldly. If you have a seed it is perishable until you see him for christ died, he is immortal. |Matthew 10:24-25; Luke 6:39-40 | Humble yourselves and beg for mercy. Become a disciple and then you shall be a Christian. In doing so, become like Jesus, who is spiritually perfect. Otherwise you will remain a Devil, a son of satan. For he is a god of the living and not the dead. He seeks those who worship in spirit and truth. |Luke 20:34-38; Mark 10:37-40| Sinners have been called to follow him but this is a war, he has hidden things from them. Why give your battle plans to the enemies? Why are people blinded by God? |Mark 2:17; Matthew 7:6, 13:10-11 |Well, whoever is not with him is against him. Sinners are the enemies of God. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Therefore, a sinner cannot please God. By their fruit you shall know them. A saint doesn’t commit sins that lead to death. | Matthew 7:16-20, 12:30-31; John 15:14 |All sins can be forgiven. Do not blasphemy the holy spirit. All those who are holy are in the family of god. He does not dwell inside a sinner for they must become a new creation. They must be born again. Those who are born again do not and cannot sin. Anyone who loves god will obey him. Those who sin hate God. |Matthew 9:16-17, 11:27, 12:50; John 3:5-8, 14:23-24 | Whoever want to serve god and become a disciple must stop sinning. They must deny themselves and pick up their cross. |Matthew 16:24-26, 19:17, 22:37-40 |Those who are awake in the day time walk in the light as he is in the light. In doing so, their prayers are quite powerful for he dwells inside the saints. They can do great miracles. The road to death is wide and the road to life is very narrow. Only few find life for many have not seen God. They do not know him. Many simply lust after the creations he can provide. They do not love god. Many false teachers have not gone through the gate. | John 6:24-27; Mark 9:39-4; 16:14-20; Luke 11:20; Luke 13:24; 17:20-21; John 3:3; 4:23-24; 5:14, 19-21; 6:44-46; 7:16-18, 37-39; 9:4-5, 31-33; 10:1-18; 11:9-10; 12:35-36; 13:10-17; 14; 15:5-10; 20:25; Acts 1:7-9. |


As for the spirit, how can you have the holy spirit if you have the spirit of a sinner? A spirit of falsehood? A sinner is not saved according to 1 Peter 4:18-19. God is a god of the living and not the dead. Therefore God is not a God of sinners. He seeks those who worship in spirit and truth but a sinner cannot do that. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit and shall eventually be cut down and cast into the fire for they have denied both the son and the father. Once it turns to ash what good is it? You cannot remain dead in your sins and expect god to be your friend. According to Romans 10:13, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” To call one Lord you must submit and obey otherwise they are not your Lord. Why do some say Lord Lord and not do as he has commanded? | See: 1 John 1:1-3; 2:3-4, 27; 3:1-10, 24; 4:6, 12-14; 5:18-19; 2 John 1:9; Romans 8:22-24; John 3:16-18; 6:46; 7:29, 39; 12:40; 14:7-18; 15:4-8, 26-27; 16:7,16; 20:19-22, 29; Acts 5:32; 10:40-43; 16:31; 1 Corinthians 2:10-12; 3:16, 8:3; 9:1; 15:3-8; Galatians 1:1, 12; 4:4-6; Ephesians 1:4-6; 3:2-5; 5:6; 2 Corinthians 4:3, 13:5; Hebrews 12:14; Matthew 5:8; 7:21; 11:27; Mark 16:11-14; Luke 24:31-35; Lamentations 3:25; Jeremiah 12:3; Isaiah 55:5-7; 64:3-5; Psalms 17:15; 27:4,6, 8; 105:4; Job 42:5; 1 Chronicles 16:10-11; 2 Chronicles 7:13-15; 2 Kings 6:16-18; 1 Samuel 3:1,7,21; Judges 13:21-23; Deuteronomy 32:20; Numbers 12:5-9; Exodus 6:2-4; 33:19-21; 34:29 - John 6:39-40 - Jude 1:14 19; Ezekiel 18:30-31; Philippians 3:4-9 |


Why do people assume the bible is talking to them? There are the righteous who do right and the wicked who do wrong. Who are you? The promises are always ‘yes’ for those in christ. If you study the words of jesus, a lot of the time as he spoke about himself, he spoke about all the sons of god. He also exposed the sons of hell. Lets look at John 10:37, “Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.” Here we are told not to believe a sinner. The sheep know the voice of their master. They may hear a stranger but they do not listen because they say or speak of the works of their father the devil. In the same way, god may hears a sinners prayer but chooses to listen because they are not righteous. A sinners prayer can be detestable as the stench of dung. There must be life in your words and not death. Jesus is like gods prayer to you and me. Jesus was a reflection of what god wants us to be. We are to present ourselves as a perfect gift to god and he has already told us what he wants. If you do not answer the prayers of god why do you expect him to answer yours? Treat others the way you want to be treated by god.



Satan rules over the sons of satan for they hate god according to John 14:23-24. Yet how many lie about such things? They do not love god. All sinners belong to satan. They do not belong to God. They do not serve the most high God. In their sins, they cannot worship god. They are not saved, born again, or a child of god. They are not a brother, sister, Christian, disciple, or a follower of Jesus Christ the Lord if they are not abiding by the truth. They do not know god, love god, nor have they seen him. By their fruit you shall know them. Don’t let the sinner lie to you. Lets look at John 8:31, “Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.” So, how many liars have we just exposed? According to Acts 11:26, “The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch,” so, how many of you have the right to call yourselves a Christian? Many do not even believe in Christ. Lets look at 1 John 2:6, “Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.” A sinner remains in the darkness of the night. Who can work at night for they are asleep? Wake up and stop sinning. Walk in the light as he is in the light and you can do great works with sun up. Perhaps raise the dead, if God permits? For the prayers of the righteous are powerful.


So, you must go through him to reach the father. How can you go through him if you are not in him? How could the lawless be guaranteed to inherit eternal life when they inherit the lake of fire? New wine cannot go in old wine skins. Therefore Jesus is not in a sinner and they are not in him. Many claim to have the holy spirit yet they are led by mere instincts. I have seen sons of satan who absolutely believe they are headed for heaven even if they were to die in sin not to sin. Well this is far from the truth. A sinner is the enemy of god. Is his sword not upon them? Many love themselves. They love the creation more then the creator. So test the spirits. How many of you have seen Jesus? Do you believe - in - Jesus? How many of you have been lying all this time? Have hope! Thank god for the grace he has bestowed upon us! I know you can do this!


I may try to help you more once I believe I am ready. That is, if god permits and if I decide to do so. I am not really teaching yet. Just here and there I guess. I am unfit to teach you right now. Being called is one thing. Being ignorant is another. I just believe you need a few tools here and there to open your eyes to what is around you. I could be wrong. This is what I believe is a flawed theory. I have much to learn. Try to take everything I say to the bible and do your own research. One must know they don’t know in order to grow in some areas. There is always room for improvement.


If you are willing to continue I may try to explain a few more things above in greater detail: I believe there are a few major steps to make in order to inherit eternal life. Lets call it a process of evolution. A process that transforms us into celestial beings equal to angels.(Luke 20:36;1 Corinthians 15:50-54) Just remember it is a gift among many gifts. There is literally nothing we can do to “earn” this gift of salvation.(Ephesians 2:8) Be careful not to be filled with arrogance, we do not “deserve” this gift either. We truly deserve nothing. We are simply unworthy servants doing our duty in which we are obligated to do.(Luke 17:7-10) Who can give anything to god?(Romans 11:30-36) He is the creator of everything and the more you take from this world the more greedy you become.(Colossians 1:16)


Okay, a gift called grace. I shall explain. For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.(Romans 3:23-26) If only we knew the significance of our transgressions. (Isaiah 53) If you are a sinner you are indeed breaking the law. We are criminals who have yet to be punished for our crimes. Imagine that you go to court for a crime that inherits the death penalty. For sin to be forgiven there must be a blood sacrifice.(Hebrew 9:22) In this case, god so loved the world he sent his only begotten son to die for our crimes against him.(John 3:16) All of our sins are poured upon Jesus if we walk in the light as he is in the light.(1 John 1:6-7) Instead of sending you to die, the judge sends his innocent son in your place. As a result the two of you are joined together in a contract, a covenant. You must stop breaking the law and accept his son as your lord for he shall rise from the dead. You must know the way, believe in the truth, and live the life that he chooses for you. Let’s say you are going to rehab to recover from your illness. In doing so, you shall be justified of all charges and set free. Through the blood of the Christ sin no longer has complete dominion over us. Death would be inevitable for all of us if it wasn’t for the grace of god. For we are no longer under the law, but under grace. For if you were under the law, how would you get away from the consequences for breaking the law?(Romans 6:14) A pardon is a pardon. So stop sinning, it’s like the cops are watching us break a lot of crimes but are waiting to see if we will change before they decide to lock us up. If we do not, we die with our sickness as we were destined to do. (1 Peter 2:4-9)



Okay, what do you do to sign the contract and fulfill your promise? If your seed perishes you will indeed be in trouble. DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY ON GOD! NOT EVEN ONCE! Imagine that you must pick up a cross and carry it along a path towards the death of your flesh. To be raised from the dead you must be “crucified” first. (John 5:25-29; Hosea 6:2) Everyone must be punished for their sins. (2 Timothy 3:12-13, Ecclesiastes 8:11) Well, the path starts off very very wide but begins to become more and more narrow as you climb.(Matthew 7:13-14; John 10:9) Along the way you shall come across some rocks and thorns. Many obstacles cause people to stumble and fall down the mountain. (See: 1 Peter 2:1-25, Luke 8:4-15) Some leave their cross behind never to return to it. They decide to pick something else up. Perhaps something less painful? Maybe someone pays them not to carry it?(Luke 16:9) Some are tricked into believing they are carrying a cross when they are not. Well beyond all this is the promise land where the father dwells.(John 14:2)


One must go through Jesus to reach the Father. Do you know the story of moses? How many failed? The story of noah? How many were righteous like him? Just how narrow is the road to life? So, how do you start this race? Accept jesus as lord and enter into the baptism of repentance.(acts 2:38) This is the baptism of water. If you have been dunk in water and have yet to stop commiting all sins that lead to death, you are still in the baptism of John the baptist. In order to be baptized with holy spirit you must repent. You must believe - in - jesus to be baptized in - the - name - of - jesus. See: Acts 2:38-39, repent of all acts that lead to death. Get baptized in the name of jesus for the forgiveness for sins? Those who have not done this, have they been forgiven? Ahh, good question. Well once you receive the seed of the son, the gift of the holy spirit, its like signing a contract with the most high god. According to hebrews 6, I wouldn’t break this covenant if I were you. This particular seed is perishable. Remember judas. (2 Chronicles 15:12; Hebrews 8:7-13, 9:15,1:1-14;Luke 22:20; 2 Corinthians 3:6;John 3:16, 3:36;Matthew 5:17-19) ) I believe this is where you are crucified. (Romans 6:4) Once you are “dead in your sins,” the purification process begins and it is going to be very painful. (2 Corinthians 5:17) Everyone must be salted by fire.( Proverbs 11:31; Mark 9:49; Malachi 3:2; 1 cor 3:13-16; 1 peter 1:7, 4:12,17; Isaiah 33:14) Have you seen the book of Job? Once you “die” in baptism, I believe it’s like we “enter the center of the earth with jesus.” Into the coffin you go. By the way, the great whore of Babylon is a group of individual who have entered into a covenant with god and have defiled their beds as they prostitute themselves to other things.


Once in the coffin all those bugs will start to come in. As your flesh starts to decay right to your very bones you are going to feel it all.(Galatians 2:20) We must suffer a lot to enter the kingdom of heaven.(Acts 14:22) Was jesus made perfect in his sufferings? Well, you still gotta carry that cross all the way to the father for his seed is imperishable.(John 14:28) We can be saved from hell but did you think we would escape punishment?(Ecclesiastes 12:14, 3:17) Jesus is the way, truth, and life. An example we follow.(1 John 2:6, Ephesians 5:1-2) For us, its more like discipline. (Proverbs 13:24,23:13-15; Hebrews 12:5-11) For others, hell is a forever thing. Either we are salted by fire in life or forever in hell. I choose to be refined like gold till I reach perfection. I don’t want to be just a common item later to be thrown away. For the left hand tends to help sift the right hand if god permits. The devil has his purpose. They can help us to grow. I don’t know about you but if I must live a uncomfortable life then so be it. Have you heard of the story about Lazarus? (Luke 16:19-31)



Okay, I shall try to explain some other theories. I believe there is a seed of the son and a seed of father that dwells inside the temple. The father and son are ONE but how do you go THROUGH jesus to reach the father? (Ephesians 4:4-6; John 14:6) Not everyone shall reach the father. (Hebrews 12:14) Romans 8:10 and Romans 8:11. How do you go through Jesus to the Father? The Godseed is imperishable unlike the seed before it. ” Gods seed remains in them, they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God” |1 john 3:9. 1 John 2:19; John 6:66; 1 Peter 1:23; Hebrews 6:4-8| Not everyone who knows jesus exist will be saved. Not everyone who receives the spirit will saved. ( 1 Peter 4:18; Matthew 7:21-27) Those who know the way, believe in the truth, and live the life might finish the race. (John 6:25-59, 17:6-19; 1 Peter 1:13-16)


We can be like jesus but not like the father. We can be like our teacher but not greater. (Luke 6:40; Romans 8:3-4; Ephesians 4:20-24) The father is indeed greater than jesus. (John 14:28) They are one, different titles and ranks. (John 8:24-28; John 20:28) The father, and the son; there seems to be more than one spirit but it is one spirit. (Romans 8:10-11) I believe the spirit of jesus is given when you receive the holy spirit. (Acts 2:38; 1 Peter 4:10) I believe the spirit of the father inside you makes you a child of god once the “full” baptism is complete. When you see him and he adopts. Godseed can no longer sin, they are sealed. (Galatians 4:6) Why does the bible say “firstfruits” of the spirit? Maybe there is more? This really confuses me for I am still eating spiritual milk so don’t trust me. Yet I believe only a few finish the entire baptism and receive the fathers seed because how many will rise from the dead in a manner Jesus did?(Romans 8:14-15; Acts 5:32) There seems to be more than one baptism but it is one process. (Ephesians 4:4-6) Like the “firstfruits” of the spirit perhaps there is more to this baptism than just being dunked into water. A baptism of water for repentance and baptism of the holy spirit and fire. (Luke 3:16; 1 Corinthians 3:10-16) Why would jesus mention completing his baptism after the water?


Well, once you accept jesus as lord and enter into the baptism of the holy spirit I believe you entered the new covenant. It is our duty to take this seed we received up the mountain. (Mark 4:3-20; Matthew 25:14-30) However, many are not willing. (Matthew 25:14-30) I believe our sinful nature and the father are like oil and water. (Matthew 9:16-17) As a sinner, any light within you is dark. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Jesus comes in to prepare the temple for his father.(1 Peter 2:4-9) The wicked do not inherit eternal life so how could they be sealed or adopted?( 1 John 3:10) Once you reach the father I believe you are adopted. (Galatians 4:1-7; Ephesians 1:3-14; Romans 8:22-27) Once your obedience is complete and you are perfected I believe you are marked. (2 Corinthians 10:1-6; Ephesians 4:20-24) Once the fathers seed comes to dwell inside of you making you a child of god I do not believe you can sin anymore. (1 john 3:7-10; Hebrews 6:1-8) However, most people cannot get their seed past the path, rocks, and thorns.




The path is very very narrow. Only few shall make it. Once the temple is “sealed” shut I do not believe anything can enter it or leave it. So have faith, follow his commands, and wait on him. Perhaps he will show himself to you? Bear good fruit.. May you be tested and come forth blameless like Job. The pure in heart shall see god! | Matthew 5:8; John 6:39-40; 14:21 |Jesus rose from dead and appeared to them. He will not leave you as orphans. He shall appear to those who love him. How did paul know he finished the race? How did he know he was soon to die? When job passed the test, who did he see? Well, I speak of those not of the world, pick up your cross and join in our sufferings as a warrior of christ. Remember the three thrown into the fire. A fourth was there with them. Have hope, in the end, he shall keep his promises to those who truly love him. Grace be with you. Go in safety.
 Quoting: Harbinger Of Truth


TRUTH! :) :banana2:
-- EK

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