re: what was referred to as the "offer that couldn't be refused" in the original thread predates every nobody and all nobodies; every somebody and all somebodies.

though somewhat hamstrung by this phrasing, let's say it can be refused and as human history has worn on is refused more often than not. many who accept the offer never have to verbalize it, but it is made manifest in them. still, the original thread asserted that it was an offer that a specific category of people could not refuse.

some in this category attempt to play the offer both ways. accept it for themselves, but manipulate and influence those who have refused it (and are thus easily swayed by custom, tradition, obligation — or anger, hatred, fear, etc) to get around the terms of the offer.

thus they believe they are beyond direct accountability, hiding behind the idea each according to his/her conscience. every time the offer is refused, the margin on the original offer narrows.

the offer predates humanity. very few humans over the course of history have accepted the offer on its own terms. many deny it, though all of science and religion attempts to define it. the offer is self-evident.