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POPE webcam: DEBUNKED

 
amywood71605

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Here is a video of the moment John Paul II was moved to his new resting place. The first few seconds show a window directly across from the tomb.

But the inverted pic is really weird. Just sayin. You make the call.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14806938


THIS THREAD IS OFFICALLY DEBUNKED!!!!!!!

THERE IS A WINDOW IN THE TOMB ROOM!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


Watch the other video. I will agree sunlight could be in that room, but no way is what is in that video just sunlight.
"Live each day like it's your last, love like you've never been hurt, and dance like no one is watching."
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You know I was thinking. The Catholic church is loosing many people now because of all is going on with the pedophiles in the church, many people are turning away from them seeing how hypocrites they are. So what would make people return to the church?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2697490


That really shows a lack of understanding of the purpose of the church, and an excessive attachment to what is worldly. (I don't mean on your part, rather, on the part of the people leaving the church)

Do people give up on democracy because they have some bad political leaders who do crappy things? Generally not. So why leave the church because of a few bad apples, or even a crappy leadership? Because "the church" isn't "the point."

Jesus Christ, Son of God, is the point. And He is extremely accessible within the sacramental life of the church, and examples of good Christian example abound in the lives of the saints.

So, if people leave, it's because they fail to understand that the church is only a means to an end, and it is a human structure with divine assistance and inspiration. So the human portion will always sin and fail. The divine portion never will.

But, people's faith is weak, both within and without the church. I suggest people will return when the secrets of Medjugorge and Garabandal come to pass, which will be fairly soon in coming, based on what's happening right now.
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I'm not one to start a fight with Chuck Norris but if you look at the OP and look at the pictures that are taken every 2 minutes. The sun would have to move across the entire sky. So its not the sun. It could be as someone else (who read the entire thread) said, someone moving a light source to decrease reflection in the web cam.
 Quoting: RayGun


I have read the whole thread up and to this point. Even the OP him/herself admitted that it looked like it was probably the sun moving across the room.
Then the next post said it was going viral and the OP threw that out the window and decided to sell t-shirts.
You can tell its the sun as it moves because the light even reflects on things above the "pope ghost".

OP, I hope you are kidding about cashing in. The can has copyright and you know how the Vatican loves its money.
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laugh Its a joke! no one on earth would buy those.
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Wow, I sure get the gut feeling that its an apparition
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ohyeah
Dr. Charles Norris

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02/27/2013 04:39 PM
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That is not the sun...
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I agree, completely.
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toofunny
ItSeesThroughEyes (OP)

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02/27/2013 04:39 PM

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BOOM - Right here
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


Now you are just making stuff up to push your lies....

I googled "St. Peter's basilica sanctuary" and this was the 1st picture that came up.....
[link to i51.tinypic.com]

please stop the madness, bro!
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


That's not where John paul is

Here's a picture of where he is.

[link to www.christusrex.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2697490


No it isnt

here is another picture....

you can clearly see sunlight reflecting off the painting on the wall as well as wood
[link to oi56.tinypic.com]

you guys are REALLY pushing it....

at 1st it was funny.....now you guys just look silly!
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


Its called camera flash bro
ItSeesThroughEyes (OP)

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02/27/2013 04:40 PM

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I'm not one to start a fight with Chuck Norris but if you look at the OP and look at the pictures that are taken every 2 minutes. The sun would have to move across the entire sky. So its not the sun. It could be as someone else (who read the entire thread) said, someone moving a light source to decrease reflection in the web cam.
 Quoting: RayGun


I have read the whole thread up and to this point. Even the OP him/herself admitted that it looked like it was probably the sun moving across the room.
Then the next post said it was going viral and the OP threw that out the window and decided to sell t-shirts.
You can tell its the sun as it moves because the light even reflects on things above the "pope ghost".

OP, I hope you are kidding about cashing in. The can has copyright and you know how the Vatican loves its money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


hey i might even send a shot of what the OP has said bout selling t-shirts to the vatican ,see what they say ,bet they sue him banana2
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You guys are unreal! its a damn joke! t-shirts....really? cmon!
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02/27/2013 04:41 PM
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I was looking at the JP II tomb and he has a Jewish menorah on his tomb with Jesus in the middle crucified it looks like. A lot of meaning there.

With the New Jerusalem calendar we have a Jewish menorah in it but with Jesus risen on Easter too.
[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]


Wed Feb 12/13/12
 Quoting: New Jerusalem Russ


I had to give a 1 star due to your awesome calendar link.
Thanks a lot, Russ. Moron.
Dr. Charles Norris

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Here is a video of the moment John Paul II was moved to his new resting place. The first few seconds show a window directly across from the tomb.

But the inverted pic is really weird. Just sayin. You make the call.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14806938


THIS THREAD IS OFFICALLY DEBUNKED!!!!!!!

THERE IS A WINDOW IN THE TOMB ROOM!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


Watch the other video. I will agree sunlight could be in that room, but no way is what is in that video just sunlight.
 Quoting: amywood71605


1st of all.....your red hair is HOT!!!!!!!...keep doing whatever it is you are doing!

2nd....those images were photo shopped from the original's to add a yellow glow....

look at the OP's pictures...and then look at the pictures from the video....

they are the exact same except the video has a yellow glow around the light.....

someone obviously messed with this and loaded it on YouTube!

I want to believe it is a ghost just like the next person...

but this is an obvious tom foolery situation...
Dr. Charles Norris

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Its called camera flash bro
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


you said there was no window in that room....

it has been proven that there is....
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02/27/2013 04:43 PM
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I can explain the t-shirts. Typically, it is an American custom to exploit anything for money.
ItSeesThroughEyes (OP)

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02/27/2013 04:44 PM

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Its called camera flash bro
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


you said there was no window in that room....

it has been proven that there is....
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


I didn't say that, you saw my thumbs up response to someone who did. I'm on the fence, either way at this point, I stated that on the 4th page. I want to wait and see in the morning if it happens again.

At this point you guys are going crazy!
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Its called camera flash bro
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


you said there was no window in that room....

it has been proven that there is....
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


[link to i55.tinypic.com]
ItSeesThroughEyes (OP)

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I can explain the t-shirts. Typically, it is an American custom to exploit anything for money.
 Quoting: bausse


Actually its called a sense of humor, that's priceless buddy
Dr. Charles Norris

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I can explain the t-shirts. Typically, it is an American custom to exploit anything for money.
 Quoting: bausse


Actually its called a sense of humor, that's priceless buddy
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


I agree... the t shirts are funny....
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02/27/2013 04:48 PM
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Its called camera flash bro
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


you said there was no window in that room....

it has been proven that there is....
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


[link to i55.tinypic.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


Like I said I have to be up early in the morning I will look and post what I see. It will either be there or it won't. It still doesn't change the prophecies of the Bible, it still doesn't change that the last pope will be here shortly.
ItSeesThroughEyes (OP)

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I can explain the t-shirts. Typically, it is an American custom to exploit anything for money.
 Quoting: bausse


Actually its called a sense of humor, that's priceless buddy
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


I agree... the t shirts are funny....
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


Thank you!, I saw the thread going down so I pumped some sense of humor into it. Is it the pope? is it the sun? either way its a shitload of fun.
Dr. Charles Norris

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Its called camera flash bro
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


you said there was no window in that room....

it has been proven that there is....
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


[link to i55.tinypic.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


Like I said I have to be up early in the morning I will look and post what I see. It will either be there or it won't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2697490


cool....thanks!
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[link to i54.tinypic.com]

I understand it is hard to break away from tradition. Your country exploits everything, just ask Cuba. Lol. I will be honest, it could be the sun. But this looks compelling...see the likeness in symmetry? You can't deny that.
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I have a few screenshots I just took, it moved to the right.
[link to www.vaticanstate.va]

UPDATE:

Here are the screenshots- Save them to a folder and click through them in sequence.

[link to i55.tinypic.com]
[link to i55.tinypic.com]
[link to i51.tinypic.com]
[link to i52.tinypic.com]
[link to i52.tinypic.com]

Inverted
[link to i54.tinypic.com]

lflashlflashlflashlflashlflash

Also:
Someone just showed me this link
[link to news.smashpipe.com]

If this were sunlight wouldn't we have seen it days and days ago? PIN THIS!

POPE shirts!...pope shirts! (just a joke)

[link to i54.tinypic.com]
[link to i52.tinypic.com]
[link to i51.tinypic.com]
[link to i53.tinypic.com]
[link to i55.tinypic.com]
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


Love it!!!
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Prove it is the sun or prove it is not.
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02/27/2013 04:53 PM
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Prove it is the sun or prove it is not.
 Quoting: bausse


yoda

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you said there was no window in that room....

it has been proven that there is....
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


[link to i55.tinypic.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


Like I said I have to be up early in the morning I will look and post what I see. It will either be there or it won't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2697490


cool....thanks!
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


No problem, I would like to get this straight too. :)
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"It will either be there or it won't." When you put forward an idea or theory, you should prove it correct, while everyone else forms opinions. Interesting enough, February 27th...the day before the Pope steps down.
Dr. Charles Norris

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"It will either be there or it won't." When you put forward an idea or theory, you should prove it correct, while everyone else forms opinions. Interesting enough, February 27th...the day before the Pope steps down.
 Quoting: bausse


who are you talking to?
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If its sunlight, then it would stick around for sometime. Sunlight doesn't appear for a minute or two then disappear. The sunlight would slowly be able to come in and slowly fade away. Watch before the light appears. It slowly fades in. Y'all are cray
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[link to i54.tinypic.com]

The sun can still form an apparition.
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The rate at which the light moves across the room is related to the size of the windows through which the sun is passing. I see people claiming that it is impossible for the sunlight to pass that quickly and stating that it takes "15 minutes." There is no recorded time it takes sunlight to pass. It's dependent on many things: time of year, time of day window size etc. the chances of that being the sun are so much greater than an apparition. All it will take is another day before we know. Unless the window is covered
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The sun is an energy source.
Dr. Charles Norris

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If its sunlight, then it would stick around for sometime. Sunlight doesn't appear for a minute or two then disappear. The sunlight would slowly be able to come in and slowly fade away. Watch before the light appears. It slowly fades in. Y'all are cray
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34504756


how are we supposed to do that?......how did you do that?

the images a still frames.... the webcam is not live....they load a new image every few minutes....

your theory is the only thing that is "cray"

Last Edited by Dr. Charles Norris on 02/27/2013 05:08 PM

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