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POPE webcam: DEBUNKED

 
Dr. Charles Norris

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Hey RayGUN

thanks.....right back at ya, brother!
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The only way I could see it being sunlight is if the object the sun was reflecting off was moving. The light traveled across the entire camera view in about 15 minutes or less. The one picture that was inverted (before inversion) really is odd. It may be a light source but I don't think it was the sun.
 Quoting: RayGun


think of it like this.....

if you have a flat surface and you move light across it, the reflection will move the same speed as the light....

if you have a round surface and move light across it, the reflection will move much faster because of the increasing angles...

does that make sense?

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Hey RayGUN

thanks.....right back at ya, brother!
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


The only way I could see it being sunlight is if the object the sun was reflecting off was moving. The light traveled across the entire camera view in about 15 minutes or less. The one picture that was inverted (before inversion) really is odd. It may be a light source but I don't think it was the sun.
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FFS i saw it,and it happens every time there is sun it shines into the room via the doorway , go and look up some ufos instead lol
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At the risk of sounding even more flaky than I am, I got the same results when I took pictures in the Colosseum in Rome. When I got the pictures developed, the person I was with, a fellow attny, was shocked - he was even afraid to touch the pictures.

So - great catch OP - I believe it man.
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That's really interesting! with everyone saying its sunlight, and the cam being online for a while now - why is it TODAY we see the sunlight for the first time?
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When I took my pictures in Rome, the sky was overcast. Took other pictures that day, but the only pictures w/the 'ghosts' were at the Colosseum.

The guy I was with had me show it around the office. Everyone, including some very skeptical attorneys, were a bit freaked out. A few asked if it wasn't the lighting. It wasn't. They asked b/c they were bothered by what they saw.
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Yep, smoke and mirriors people.
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Webcams are not unusual, I have them for the Macinac Bridge, an eagles nest with baby eagles, Lourdes live, etc.They are for security, also.

My husband and I were in Rome last fall for the canonization of Kateri Tekakwitha, a young Mohawk woman who died in the 1600s. I had ten pounds of mementoes with that I promised those who couldnt attend I would get blessed. I had sprained my ankle and chipped my kneecap in a fall the day before and had crutches.

We went into the tomb of JPII and the guard let us go in ahead of the line...only so many at a time can go in. I went right past the kneelers at the front and to the right side to the table top kneelers and began to spread out all the rosaries, holy cards,petitions and so on. The guard was talking to someone and didnt stop me. My husband was beside me. As we prayed, a warmth seemed to envelop us and a feeling of serenity and love. My husband was freaking out about it and I just shushed him and thanked John Paul for blessing us and the little things for the old people and others back home. I got up and felt no pain any longer. two weeks later I was well enough to hang up my Italian crutches. Since I have LUpus, a fast healing without a flair was exceptional.
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wow what a lovely story, I so believe it to I am so glad you feel better also, thanks for sharing.
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Why aren't the people/priests in the video LOOKING over at the light when it appears? Anyone would be shocked and watching the light that suddenly appears. They don't. They just keep praying. The only reason they wouldn't be stunned and staring at the apparition, is if it wasn't IN THE ROOM! This is from the camera or something. We are all human and everyone of us would have turned and watched this light. They don't...
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Cameras can see a wider spectrum of light including infrared... That's why you can blind a security camera with an infrared flashlight
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Yep, smoke and mirriors people.
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What I mean is they're the ones doing the "smoke and mirriors". Why, I don't know, but that was my first thought looking at these pics. It's some kind of show. And if not I doubt it's anything holy.
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The main question: WHY is there a webcam on JP2's tomb at all? Unless there was an expectation of something?
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I know! I totally agree. Why, on earth would there be a webcam on it. Even the most hardcore Popaholics wouldn't even be interested in that.
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I wondered that too. What is the purpose of having this webcam on him. Don't popes usually get beautified, and then put back under in the catacombs? Why are they keeping him there?
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It is my belief that the entire Vatican is a demonic cult that is ran by Satan himself. There can only be evil coming from them.
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see now, I was enjoying your thread minus the disrespectful t shirts up until reading what you just said now. you shouldnt say such mean things. :-(
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I'd like to believe in stuff like this too....

but, you need to let this thread die, bro

it is obviously sunlight shining through a window gradually moving across the room......
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


This trains a rollin' can't stop it, get off the pope tracks.
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


Actually the train has stopped.....

It's sunlight....nothing more.
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


Well explain how the pope's coffin has turned into a ufo?
[link to www.vaticanstate.va]
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


GAAH!!!
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I know! I totally agree. Why, on earth would there be a webcam on it. Even the most hardcore Popaholics wouldn't even be interested in that.
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I wondered that too. What is the purpose of having this webcam on him. Don't popes usually get beautified, and then put back under in the catacombs? Why are they keeping him there?
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It is my belief that the entire Vatican is a demonic cult that is ran by Satan himself. There can only be evil coming from them.
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


see now, I was enjoying your thread minus the disrespectful t shirts up until reading what you just said now. you shouldnt say such mean things. :-(
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I shouldn't? Its what I believe as a Christian. Everything about the Vatican is demonic.
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Thanks OP for the upload of the inverted pic hf

[link to tinypic.com]

Well, the timestamps of the pics and the black thingy on the inverted pic debunk the sunlight theory. Besides, it wasnt the first time the sun was shining and things like that should have been seen before then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34596923


Excuse my ignorance, but how does this debunk the sunlight theory?

Inverted picture means light becomes dark and vice versa. As the 'apparition' was shiny white in colour, it should be dark in the picture. And it is. May I remind you that this is a normal picture, not a roentgen or ultrasound or sonar or whatever.
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I wondered that too. What is the purpose of having this webcam on him. Don't popes usually get beautified, and then put back under in the catacombs? Why are they keeping him there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2697490


It is my belief that the entire Vatican is a demonic cult that is ran by Satan himself. There can only be evil coming from them.
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


see now, I was enjoying your thread minus the disrespectful t shirts up until reading what you just said now. you shouldnt say such mean things. :-(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12655659


I shouldn't? Its what I believe as a Christian. Everything about the Vatican is demonic.
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Also take into consideration how Jesus responded to the Pharisees, and how different is the Vatican from them?
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why is this shit pined ?
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I believe you because this video was posted this morning about the pope being by his tomb


Link: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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I think we all need to see what happens tomorrow, I got these at 6:30 am eastern. Someone get up and grab some caps in the morning.

Well, what time is it there then if its 6:30 am eastern?
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


The time stamp on the picks say it's about 12:00 12:30 in the afternoon, so they are about 6 hours ahead of eastern time.
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If it's noon, wouldn't the sun be coming straight down and not at an angle to produce a shadow?
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I think we all need to see what happens tomorrow, I got these at 6:30 am eastern. Someone get up and grab some caps in the morning.

Well, what time is it there then if its 6:30 am eastern?
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


The time stamp on the picks say it's about 12:00 12:30 in the afternoon, so they are about 6 hours ahead of eastern time.
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If it's noon, wouldn't the sun be coming straight down and not at an angle to produce a shadow?
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It is still winter...
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I think we all need to see what happens tomorrow, I got these at 6:30 am eastern. Someone get up and grab some caps in the morning.

Well, what time is it there then if its 6:30 am eastern?
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


The time stamp on the picks say it's about 12:00 12:30 in the afternoon, so they are about 6 hours ahead of eastern time.
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If it's noon, wouldn't the sun be coming straight down and not at an angle to produce a shadow?
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That's what I was thinking! Great point
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According to bible the dead are a sleep. I do not believe in Ghost because if there were Ghost, you'd be haunted like mad by blacks, natives, Asians, and poor(to use America for example). If this was anything, i'd consider it a demonic. I get a kick out of the spookism bs of some people.
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What is the most likely - the Vatican is nowadays a corrupt organisation where people fight amongst each other for money and power OR a religious institution devoted to Satan or God with supernatural powers?

Ask the same thing about the banksters and TPTB - smart and greedy ethnic mobsters or satanist worshippers doing Lucifers work on earth?

I truly suspect that all this spiritual/demonic/alien crap supposedly conected to these powers is nothing more than very effective smoke screens.

If we one day realised that this vermin of plain criminals is made out of the same weak flesh and blood as ourselves, we would take them down in a day or two.
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According to bible the dead are a sleep. I do not believe in Ghost because if there were Ghost, you'd be haunted like mad by blacks, natives, Asians, and poor(to use America for example). If this was anything, i'd consider it a demonic. I get a kick out of the spookism bs of some people.
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I agree!
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How do you invert the colors on paint?
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According to bible the dead are a sleep. I do not believe in Ghost because if there were Ghost, you'd be haunted like mad by blacks, natives, Asians, and poor(to use America for example). If this was anything, i'd consider it a demonic. I get a kick out of the spookism bs of some people.
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I agree with you. All I know is that something is about to happen to kick us into the great deception that the Bible speaks about.
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How do you invert the colors on paint?
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select the image you want inverted then right click.....click "invert selected"

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I think we all need to see what happens tomorrow, I got these at 6:30 am eastern. Someone get up and grab some caps in the morning.

Well, what time is it there then if its 6:30 am eastern?
 Quoting: ItSeesThroughEyes


The time stamp on the picks say it's about 12:00 12:30 in the afternoon, so they are about 6 hours ahead of eastern time.
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If it's noon, wouldn't the sun be coming straight down and not at an angle to produce a shadow?
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That's what I was thinking! Great point
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you're reaching, bro

it's called a reflection.....not direct
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Study the inverted picture. You can clearly see form. When I look at this, I get a very strange feeling. I'm not one to look at anything like this and say, "Oh look it's real!" But this is real and very possibly a sign! The reason no one looked is because no one saw it but we did! This is an apparition. This could very well be Pope John Paul || looking at his own coffin. His papacy lasted twenty-seven years! Just when things are about to turn for the worst, he came back in fear for the future. Honestly does anyone feel this way? I think he is warning us about the evil that looms. Look at the inverted picture it has absolute form and to me is undeniable. Trust what your eyes see and what your intuition tells you.
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Study the inverted picture. You can clearly see form. When I look at this, I get a very strange feeling. I'm not one to look at anything like this and say, "Oh look it's real!" But this is real and very possibly a sign! The reason no one looked is because no one saw it but we did! This is an apparition. This could very well be Pope John Paul || looking at his own coffin. His papacy lasted twenty-seven years! Just when things are about to turn for the worst, he came back in fear for the future. Honestly does anyone feel this way? I think he is warning us about the evil that looms. Look at the inverted picture it has absolute form and to me is undeniable. Trust what your eyes see and what your intuition tells you.
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Is the inverted picture somewhere on here? Thanks!
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Sumbody need to drive a wooden stake thru his heart before he rises scream
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Study the inverted picture. You can clearly see form. When I look at this, I get a very strange feeling. I'm not one to look at anything like this and say, "Oh look it's real!" But this is real and very possibly a sign! The reason no one looked is because no one saw it but we did! This is an apparition. This could very well be Pope John Paul || looking at his own coffin. His papacy lasted twenty-seven years! Just when things are about to turn for the worst, he came back in fear for the future. Honestly does anyone feel this way? I think he is warning us about the evil that looms. Look at the inverted picture it has absolute form and to me is undeniable. Trust what your eyes see and what your intuition tells you.
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Is the inverted picture somewhere on here? Thanks!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34267563


[link to i54.tinypic.com]

What do you think? What do you sense when you see this?
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Look at the hip area...on both sides there are creases indicating...hips!
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Study the inverted picture. You can clearly see form. When I look at this, I get a very strange feeling. I'm not one to look at anything like this and say, "Oh look it's real!" But this is real and very possibly a sign! The reason no one looked is because no one saw it but we did! This is an apparition. This could very well be Pope John Paul || looking at his own coffin. His papacy lasted twenty-seven years! Just when things are about to turn for the worst, he came back in fear for the future. Honestly does anyone feel this way? I think he is warning us about the evil that looms. Look at the inverted picture it has absolute form and to me is undeniable. Trust what your eyes see and what your intuition tells you.
 Quoting: bausse


Is the inverted picture somewhere on here? Thanks!
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[link to i54.tinypic.com]

What do you think? What do you sense when you see this?
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