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Norway Faces Liquidity Shock in Record Redemption!!!

 
DontBeAfraidEVER

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02/27/2013 10:30 AM
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Russia has been controlling Norway from behind the scenes for more than 50 years =)
 Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER


what you can say to us? People talk about this? Thank's!
 Quoting: Luisport


Its not easy to proove because the story is so long, and the dots that needs to be connected are so many. But they all direct to this.

Its the same way its done in most part of the world.

Theres a network of families that changes names, marry only with eachother and shares the positions of power within them.

Most are problably not aware, and most are just tools, but the key players are very much controlled.

For example the governor of Oslo is in direct relation with the first governor ever in Oslo decades ago.

Ive spent several hundreds of hours to nest this together some years ago.

Just a few years ago the Norwegian government even stopped a book about the russian infiltration in Norway during the wars, because they felt it was ''innapropiate for the info'' to get out. The book even states that there are people in our governmentt right now, that can be prooved ''bought'', but they just stopped it =)

Only a few selected families in Norway has real power eventho it may not look like it for the normal ''viewer''.

I would spend about 20 pages trying to explain all of it.
 Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER


i do not doubt you and i would have been doing such things as well contecting the dots. where is this book you have been reseraching? might i add i have norsk familie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35268419


The video i posted is just for illustrations. The man who have posted these videos is a Norwegian attourney on the run, he has won several cases against the Norwegian state in the European Efta Courts, and it was he who got me interested in this, but i have done my own investigations.

The books are many, but its more like creating a familythree out of all the powerful families, follow their children, who they marry and how the connect.

Ive looked in digital church books, old papers in the national archives, all kinds of old information i could find really.

Also much of the released papers in other countries national archives has been of value =)

I look at the picture they are trying to paint, and then i try to find parts of the story behind it that isnt true =)

Norwegian official story (but only propaganda)


Small part of the real story;



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Re: Norway Faces Liquidity Shock in Record Redemption!!!
Pay attention folks.

This is what happens when the chickens come home to root.

What does this mean?

Massive drop in the price of bonds, massive increase in interest yields. In the US, mortgage rates typically move in tandem with the 10 years note, this will mean a large increase in credit costs.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Indeed, just more weight on this house of cards.

Sooner rather than later something like this is going to be too much and boom the entire system comes crashing down.
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02/27/2013 10:32 AM

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Pay attention folks.

This is what happens when the chickens come home to root.

What does this mean?

Massive drop in the price of bonds, massive increase in interest yields. In the US, mortgage rates typically move in tandem with the 10 years note, this will mean a large increase in credit costs.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Indeed, just more weight on this house of cards.

Sooner rather than later something like this is going to be too much and boom the entire system comes crashing down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34379378


abombabombabomb
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02/27/2013 10:35 AM

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chickens come home to root.

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cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34379378


Oops!! My bad.


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02/27/2013 10:40 AM
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Re: Norway Faces Liquidity Shock in Record Redemption!!!
Simple Explanation (covered above in a post also)

Norway is paying off 6.5% bonds with a new issue of bonds that pay about 2.4% ... and the BANKERS ARE SCREAMING!!

Why? Because the bankers want to collect the extra 4% interest
on what are believed to be the SAFEST SOVEREIGN DEBT IN EUROPE.

The bankers are now concocting and publicizing all sorts or reasons why the Norwegian Government should NOT protect it's own Taxpayers and enrich the Bankers ... but it is all Bullshit!!

Do NOT believe the Banker's PR agenda!!! They are marketing "their book" in traders parlance ... ie: trying to get the best return on their "investment" - speculation really, and will concoct any sort of story, no matter how implausible it may be, if they think it helps them make MORE money.

THAT my friends is the long and short of this PR inspired "news" story.

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02/27/2013 10:54 AM
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Simple Explanation (covered above in a post also)

Norway is paying off 6.5% bonds with a new issue of bonds that pay about 2.4% ... and the BANKERS ARE SCREAMING!!

Why? Because the bankers want to collect the extra 4% interest
on what are believed to be the SAFEST SOVEREIGN DEBT IN EUROPE.

The bankers are now concocting and publicizing all sorts or reasons why the Norwegian Government should NOT protect it's own Taxpayers and enrich the Bankers ... but it is all Bullshit!!

Do NOT believe the Banker's PR agenda!!! They are marketing "their book" in traders parlance ... ie: trying to get the best return on their "investment" - speculation really, and will concoct any sort of story, no matter how implausible it may be, if they think it helps them make MORE money.

THAT my friends is the long and short of this PR inspired "news" story.

Old Trader
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i just looked thru all the Norsk papers on line and i found not a thing mentioned. so i would suggest it is just as you say......not saying i didn't miss but they look so typical norway onward and upward
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02/27/2013 10:56 AM
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read adam smith wealth of nation, that happen nowadays
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02/27/2013 11:00 AM

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If I understand correctly...

what is being said is this: Norway, because it is in such good financial condition, can borrow money at very low interest rates. Norway is attempting to pay down some of the little debt it has on the books. The people who "loan money" (also known as the people who buy bonds) will not want to buy anymore of Norway's debt...because Norway will have a smaller amount of debt...and there will be too much competition to buy the little remaining debt...that it will not be worth anything to invest in Norway's bonds...the interest rate will be so low that it is not worth owning it...kind of like how a checking/savings account is here in America....you don't get any interest on it...so, why have it in the bank. This is the same thing for Norway's bonds. What the article is trying to say is that, because nobody will want to buy Norway's bonds...they won't have any cash (liquidity) to do anything. Bottom line...this is BS that is being drummed up by banksters..."your too healthy Norway...we won't let you have money to live...we want Norway to be in debt to us...so we can control you! By not letting us (banksters) control you, Norway, we will 'punish' you with very little cash!"
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That's about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


Thank you for the very lucid summary. :-(
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02/27/2013 11:08 AM
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Re: Norway Faces Liquidity Shock in Record Redemption!!!
Pay attention folks.

This is what happens when the chickens come home to root.

What does this mean?

Massive drop in the price of bonds, massive increase in interest yields. In the US, mortgage rates typically move in tandem with the 10 years note, this will mean a large increase in credit costs.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Indeed, just more weight on this house of cards.

Sooner rather than later something like this is going to be too much and boom the entire system comes crashing down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34379378


abombabombabomb
 Quoting: Luisport


from the looks norway is sound and they stayed out of the bullshit. although they have to work with the world mafia they are careful look they are looking at budgets for 2060 they are not a part of the problem they are smart
Mr. Toppit

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02/27/2013 11:10 AM

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Less debt - more sovereignty. A small country with some sense of responsibility to its people. Isn't that amazing.
An Ordinary Greek
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02/27/2013 11:21 AM
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Re: Norway Faces Liquidity Shock in Record Redemption!!!
The problem with Norway is that is has a very strong Krone and that affects exports.

Some weeks ago the Norwegian Central Bank actually said that it's about time the Krone should be devalued.

Wonder however how much "devaluation" are they going to tolerate. 'Cos, I don't know why, Norgie politicians have an obsession with...inflation and interest rates.
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02/27/2013 11:29 AM
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Re: Norway Faces Liquidity Shock in Record Redemption!!!
Pay attention folks.

This is what happens when the chickens come home to root.

What does this mean?

Massive drop in the price of bonds, massive increase in interest yields. In the US, mortgage rates typically move in tandem with the 10 years note, this will mean a large increase in credit costs.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


I still don't get it, spoon feed me please :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4070676


I think its good for Norway but bad for investors seeking a safe haven investment for their capital.

I think it means Norway is saying "thanks, but no thanks, we will not need to borrow as much. Rather we are going to pay you guys back earlier"

And the greedy usury money lovers panicking saying "OMG, what are we going to do? Where will we place our money now?"

They all need to go to hell, that's what they need to do.
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02/27/2013 12:57 PM
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If I understand correctly...

what is being said is this: Norway, because it is in such good financial condition, can borrow money at very low interest rates. Norway is attempting to pay down some of the little debt it has on the books. The people who "loan money" (also known as the people who buy bonds) will not want to buy anymore of Norway's debt...because Norway will have a smaller amount of debt...and there will be too much competition to buy the little remaining debt...that it will not be worth anything to invest in Norway's bonds...the interest rate will be so low that it is not worth owning it...kind of like how a checking/savings account is here in America....you don't get any interest on it...so, why have it in the bank. This is the same thing for Norway's bonds. What the article is trying to say is that, because nobody will want to buy Norway's bonds...they won't have any cash (liquidity) to do anything. Bottom line...this is BS that is being drummed up by banksters..."your too healthy Norway...we won't let you have money to live...we want Norway to be in debt to us...so we can control you! By not letting us (banksters) control you, Norway, we will 'punish' you with very little cash!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35096685


That's about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


Thank you for the very lucid summary. :-(
 Quoting: tandym


Are you sad...serious...I don't understand. I tried to make it readable...I am sorry if I can't explain well :-)
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02/27/2013 01:50 PM
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bump
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If I understand correctly...

what is being said is this: Norway, because it is in such good financial condition, can borrow money at very low interest rates. Norway is attempting to pay down some of the little debt it has on the books. The people who "loan money" (also known as the people who buy bonds) will not want to buy anymore of Norway's debt...because Norway will have a smaller amount of debt...and there will be too much competition to buy the little remaining debt...that it will not be worth anything to invest in Norway's bonds...the interest rate will be so low that it is not worth owning it...kind of like how a checking/savings account is here in America....you don't get any interest on it...so, why have it in the bank. This is the same thing for Norway's bonds. What the article is trying to say is that, because nobody will want to buy Norway's bonds...they won't have any cash (liquidity) to do anything. Bottom line...this is BS that is being drummed up by banksters..."your too healthy Norway...we won't let you have money to live...we want Norway to be in debt to us...so we can control you! By not letting us (banksters) control you, Norway, we will 'punish' you with very little cash!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35096685


That's about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884


Thank you for the very lucid summary. :-(
 Quoting: tandym


Are you sad...serious...I don't understand. I tried to make it readable...I am sorry if I can't explain well :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35096685


If you think we can fix the situation in Europe we have tried. There is something very wrong... And very confusing geopolitically atm.

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