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Leaked DOJ document: “assault weapons are NOT a major contributor to US gun homicide”

 
Dr. Ben Schillen
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Leaked DOJ document: “assault weapons are NOT a major contributor to US gun homicide”
In an internal nine page document, not meant for public distribution, a high-ranking Obama official admits that gun control doesn’t work and so-called “assault weapons” are almost never used in crimes.

Greg Ridgeway, a high level official in the Obama administration, is the author of the document. He says that even a high-capacity magazine ban, without confiscating all existing magazines, would be ineffective.

Ridgeway wants to confiscate high capacity magazines and make law abiding citizens register their guns and ammo! All future ammo sales would have to be done with a background check and logged for Federal records.

A leaked document for the National Institute of Justice [NIJ] admits “assault rifles” kill very few Americans each year. However, the same document calls for massive gun control anyway! The NIJ is part of the Eric Holder control Department of Justice.

Read more (and the document @) [link to topconservativenews.com]
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Less then 1 tenth of 1 percent of all murders in america are committed by an assault weapon... its all lies... its all about bringing in communism which they cannot do with an armed public...

so dont give up your guns... get organized...
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Re: Leaked DOJ document: “assault weapons are NOT a major contributor to US gun homicide”
Less then 1 tenth of 1 percent of all murders in america are committed by an assault weapon... its all lies... its all about bringing in communism which they cannot do with an armed public...

so dont give up your guns... get organized...
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Yep, but the gun control lobby's disinformation machine won't let facts get in their way of shoving the new AWB down our throats.

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assault weapons inversely linked to government fascism
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Great find OP!

They have no intention of saving people's lives and lowering crime levels. What they want is a slave population who can't fight back.

I refuse to be a slave!

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Re: Leaked DOJ document: “assault weapons are NOT a major contributor to US gun homicide”
.

There are more deaths at the hands of Obama's Drones than at the hands of those
with "assault weapons", and that's the fucking truth!

Obama-gangsta

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They're only "assault" weapons if the public has them, in the hands of the police or military they're "self defense" weapons.

Fuck the bullshit. grumpy2
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Great find OP!

They have no intention of saving people's lives and lowering crime levels. What they want is a slave population who can't fight back.

I refuse to be a slave!

rocket
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Hey...stop calling me slave! redface
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WTF you guys need assault weapons for anyway?
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It is a lot easier for Barry to get you on the FEMA trains without millions of assult rifles aimed on the foreign armies he is training on American soil for that specific reason.
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WTF you guys need assault weapons for anyway?
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To defend your right to freedom of speech? I think you can come up with many other freedoms that people living under a dictatorship don't have?

But maybe you think DHS and FEMA will defend your liberties?
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Gun control in the US is shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.
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Confirms what most of us knew all along.

Gun control has nothing to do with guns, and everything to do with CONTROL.
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WTF you guys need assault weapons for anyway?
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To defend your right to freedom of speech? I think you can come up with many other freedoms that people living under a dictatorship don't have?

But maybe you think DHS and FEMA will defend your liberties?
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Riiiiight...people with guns will really make TPTP scared to death. That could have some effect hundred years ago.
Today, it is just for profit :-D
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Well its good this info has come to light. Now we should maybe put the assault weapons issue aside.

Instead, lets focus on the best thing we can do - all firearms need to be registered in the US. A good combo to this would be requiring people to be 'confirmed' before getting any gun, by requiring universal background checks! The best way to accomplish this is through the Federal Govenment.
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Americans, would you allow the mandatory registration of firearms without restrictions in exchange for the release of the same duties for vehicles?
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registration of firearms is just a step towards confiscation.

I will never register any firearms.
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This is such crap.
Arent you people smart enough to see that registration of all firearms is just a baby step a first step towards all out confiscation of weapons.
And for the tards asking why we need assault weapons, the most important reason is for protection against a tyrannical government, my own or a foreign threat.
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Somebody at DOJ is going to be sent to the Russian Front for this outrage.

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Headline should add:
"...but machine guns supplied by Eric Holder are #1 cause of death in Mexico"

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Re: Leaked DOJ document: “assault weapons are NOT a major contributor to US gun homicide”
In an internal nine page document, not meant for public distribution, a high-ranking Obama official admits that gun control doesn’t work and so-called “assault weapons” are almost never used in crimes.

Greg Ridgeway, a high level official in the Obama administration, is the author of the document. He says that even a high-capacity magazine ban, without confiscating all existing magazines, would be ineffective.

Ridgeway wants to confiscate high capacity magazines and make law abiding citizens register their guns and ammo! All future ammo sales would have to be done with a background check and logged for Federal records.

A leaked document for the National Institute of Justice [NIJ] admits “assault rifles” kill very few Americans each year. However, the same document calls for massive gun control anyway! The NIJ is part of the Eric Holder control Department of Justice.

Read more (and the document @) [link to topconservativenews.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


Ok so.

I'm a liberal. I support gun legislation.

But

It's not a secret that all of the proposals the Dems are currently pursuing won't significantly lower the gun homicide rates.

Obama to some degree is doing this because he's a canny politician and knows he can probably get some of this passed and claim a kind of victory. Never mind the 11k people murdered with guns.

Basically, as I've said to my liberal friends, "what are you trying to do, lower the number of innocents insane people can kill in one go, or significantly lower gun homicides?"

I'd personally rather actually lower the absurd gun homicide numbers, but that's not feasible is America. The Dems know this and are simply nibbling around the edges.

That being said, there's no real justification for half the crap the gun nuts are desperately trying to protect.
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Less then 1 tenth of 1 percent of all murders in america are committed by an assault weapon... its all lies... its all about bringing in communism which they cannot do with an armed public...

so dont give up your guns... get organized...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5763636


Yep, but the gun control lobby's disinformation machine won't let facts get in their way of shoving the new AWB down our throats.
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


NIce find Dr. Schillen! There will be a lot more than a lil shoving going on if they even attempt any of this bullshit! We are stupid enough to believe their media shills like the dumbass morgan! GREEN TO YA!
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Less then 1 tenth of 1 percent of all murders in america are committed by an assault weapon... its all lies... its all about bringing in communism which they cannot do with an armed public...

so dont give up your guns... get organized...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5763636


Yep, but the gun control lobby's disinformation machine won't let facts get in their way of shoving the new AWB down our throats.
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


NIce find Dr. Schillen! There will be a lot more than a lil shoving going on if they even attempt any of this bullshit! We are stupid enough to believe their media shills like the dumbass morgan! GREEN TO YA!
Come And Take It!
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Less then 1 tenth of 1 percent of all murders in america are committed by an assault weapon... its all lies... its all about bringing in communism which they cannot do with an armed public...

so dont give up your guns... get organized...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5763636


Yep, but the gun control lobby's disinformation machine won't let facts get in their way of shoving the new AWB down our throats.
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


NIce find Dr. Schillen! There will be a lot more than a lil shoving going on if they even attempt any of this bullshit! We arent stupid enough to believe their media shills like the dumbass morgan! GREEN TO YA!

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Less then 1 tenth of 1 percent of all murders in america are committed by an assault weapon... its all lies... its all about bringing in communism which they cannot do with an armed public...

so dont give up your guns... get organized...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5763636


Yep, but the gun control lobby's disinformation machine won't let facts get in their way of shoving the new AWB down our throats.
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


NIce find Dr. Schillen! There will be a lot more than a lil shoving going on if they even attempt any of this bullshit! We are stupid enough to believe their media shills like the dumbass morgan! GREEN TO YA!
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Less then 1 tenth of 1 percent of all murders in america are committed by an assault weapon... its all lies... its all about bringing in communism which they cannot do with an armed public...

so dont give up your guns... get organized...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5763636


Yep, but the gun control lobby's disinformation machine won't let facts get in their way of shoving the new AWB down our throats.
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen


NIce find Dr. Schillen! There will be a lot more than a lil shoving going on if they even attempt any of this bullshit! We arent stupid enough to believe their media shills like the dumbass morgan! GREEN TO YA!
Come And Take It!
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The problem is the barrier of arguing with people that look at semi-automatic guns as literal "weapons of mass destruction". You can cite all the statistics you want, but "my feelings!" and "THE CHILDREN!" will overrule any logic.

Rifles get used in something like 2% of all murders...but THE CHILDREN!
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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I think it should be blatant obvious why the jews want hig capacity semi autos out of the hand of the people, because they can be used to effectively resist tyranny and they level the playing field..

It isn't about protecting children, if they really wanted to do that they would have armed guards at every entrance of public schools like Israel has.



Like the pedophile witch hunts going on these days, it's all a lie. The DOJ records nationwide show a recidivism rate of less than 7% for convicted 'pedophiles' and all of the stops have been removed in criminal courts where these cases are prosecuted in secrecy. The accused has no chance of Constitutional trial.

Hearsay evidence is often all that is required to get a conviction, there is almost never any physical evidence if abuse or of any kind , and children are carefully coached by experts before they testify on what to say and how to act, and it's all perfectly "legal".. The judge will often instruct the jury that the normal rules of law do not apply in these cases since the only witness is always the child, meaning that the burden of proof is on the defense to prove their innocence and the jury only has to believe it is possible for the accused to have committed the crime to return a guilty verdict..

It's being used as a way to target "troublemakers" obviously, since psychologists insist and studies confirm a pedophile cannot be cured. There is no better way to silence a person than accuse him or her of this crime, the person is convicted the instant he is arrested in the minds of everyone hearing about it. " A kid wouldn't make something like that up!". I agree, they have to be carefully prepared bribed , coerced and trained to do it.

If a even a large percentage of those convicted were actually guilty the recidivism rate would be a bit higher than 7% I suspect! The DOJ statistics can be used to show most of what we hear in the jew mass media is a lie concerning crime in general the US, and we are being manipulated by psychological tactics to ignore the FACTS.

According to DOJ stats, a person charged with simple theft is statistically more like to be arrested for a sex crime against a child than a convicted "pedophile" who has been released back into society. I wonder why?

This 'development' has been very recent, and mirrors the Salem witch trials almost precisely in the way the cases are prosecuted. It is obvious that we have been set up and manipulated by the mass media and whipped into a mob mentality frenzy,

The vast majority of real serial pedophiles are high up in society and well protected, it is the poor fathers and so called , "anti socials" (read anti-jew) being targeted.

If you attempt to expose one of them you can expect to go to prison. I had a jew lawyer tell me to my face if you say the wrong thing about a jew you will go to the penitentiary and if you harm a jew you will die.

All of the gun legislation in the US is being sponsored by jews, and the pedophile/gun control pattern precisely mirrors how they pulled off the Bolshevik revolution. STUDY. Those who fail to remember the past are condemner to repeat it.
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Re: Leaked DOJ document: “assault weapons are NOT a major contributor to US gun homicide”
Well its good this info has come to light. Now we should maybe put the assault weapons issue aside.

Instead, lets focus on the best thing we can do - all firearms need to be registered in the US. A good combo to this would be requiring people to be 'confirmed' before getting any gun, by requiring universal background checks! The best way to accomplish this is through the Federal Govenment.
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Only one problem with that: The Second Amendment will not allow you to do that.
A better idea would be to follow Sweden's example and issue a fully automatic rifle and ammunition to every household in the country.
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WTF you guys need assault weapons for anyway?
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Nobody needs it until someone tries to take it from the people

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