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Jesus Christ Preached Against Homosexuality, But He Also Said Not To Judge Others

 
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Could Jesus have been gay? He never seemed to hook up with girls. He always was around men.

No offense, just a thought.
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Repent for thinking such asking if the Son of God was gay.

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But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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"Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy"

i dont see many christians wlk into a temple in jerusalem, i agree the temple is abstract, spiritual,

so marriage is not ? where it concerns sin,
ofcourse marriage is not a bad thing,
but we talk about the logic behind faith now.
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I do keep,the true sabbath holy Friday till Saturday night, just as God commanded all His children to do through all generations. Don't worry about what other Christians do, worry about what you do. Sodomy i a sin, homosexuality is a sin, and that is the TRUTH.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


if you take the law literal, take in attention that a gentile is not supposed to keep the sabbath in the way a jew does. the penalty is severe, if you put so much importance to the jewish religion.

i dont say this to scare you, i say this to make a point.

u can not use the law, and then abuse against it.
i dont say that because you have to think as me,
i say this because as long u see sin in gays,
more then in other non attacking sins,
u make them less then yourself. and this thinking is dangerous.
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"Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy"

i dont see many christians wlk into a temple in jerusalem, i agree the temple is abstract, spiritual,

so marriage is not ? where it concerns sin,
ofcourse marriage is not a bad thing,
but we talk about the logic behind faith now.
 Quoting: anom 35335472



I do keep,the true sabbath holy Friday till Saturday night, just as God commanded all His children to do through all generations. Don't worry about what other Christians do, worry about what you do. Sodomy i a sin, homosexuality is a sin, and that is the TRUTH.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


if you take the law literal, take in attention that a gentile is not supposed to keep the sabbath in the way a jew does. the penalty is severe, if you put so much importance to the jewish religion.

i dont say this to scare you, i say this to make a point.

u can not use the law, and then abuse against it.
i dont say that because you have to think as me,
i say this because as long u see sin in gays,
more then in other non attacking sins,
u make them less then yourself. and this thinking is dangerous.
 Quoting: anom 35335472


And that is another lie of the church, they altered the true sabbath, I have two translations that prove Sunday sabbath is false. According to Gods laws you are sinning. Like I said I will pray for you, and I won't cast any stones or condemn you. I will let your actions do that.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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i have a bit of a bad feeling, these discussions cost me, i dont want to fight with you...maybe my responses can hep you at least have a secure own view of things, because when there is any doubt, it is not wise to call one a sinner.

in the end i just wished people wouldnt damage me and all gaypeople, just like they damage many other kinds of people emotionally. but hey, it snot a perfect world yet, and i am tired of arguing.

i just ask you what would jesus do when he sees a gay ?
u really think jesus was the teacher of fear of hell ?
hell is not even exisiting in the jewish worldview,
its another dogma of christianity.and christianity theology then is not the same as the gospel.

im tired of fighting good people, even if they are partly ignorant.
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This is the Tynsdale translation from Hebrew regarding Sunday Sabbath, guess what the church killed him. He translated this directly from Hebrew this is

Acts 20:7

On a saboth day the disciples came to gether for to break bread, and Paul preached unto them (ready to depart on the morrow) and continued the preaching unto midnight. There were many lights in the chamber where we were gathered together, and there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutichus, fallen into a deep sleep. And as Paul declared he was the more overcome with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead

And here is the false church

7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until

The original Greek bible shows Saturday the Apostles breaking bread. Sunday Sabbath is an abomination of he false catholic whore church.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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"Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy"

i dont see many christians wlk into a temple in jerusalem, i agree the temple is abstract, spiritual,

so marriage is not ? where it concerns sin,
ofcourse marriage is not a bad thing,
but we talk about the logic behind faith now.
 Quoting: anom 35335472



I do keep,the true sabbath holy Friday till Saturday night, just as God commanded all His children to do through all generations. Don't worry about what other Christians do, worry about what you do. Sodomy i a sin, homosexuality is a sin, and that is the TRUTH.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


if you take the law literal, take in attention that a gentile is not supposed to keep the sabbath in the way a jew does. the penalty is severe, if you put so much importance to the jewish religion.

i dont say this to scare you, i say this to make a point.

u can not use the law, and then abuse against it.
i dont say that because you have to think as me,
i say this because as long u see sin in gays,
more then in other non attacking sins,
u make them less then yourself. and this thinking is dangerous.
 Quoting: anom 35335472


And that is another lie of the church, they altered the true sabbath, I have two translations that prove Sunday sabbath is false. According to Gods laws you are sinning. Like I said I will pray for you, and I won't cast any stones or condemn you. I will let your actions do that.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


---

you know the noahide laws ?
a non jew is not supposed to keep the sabbath, penalty is harsh, actually the torah prescribes many to deatch if it would be valid, there is no temple, so it is not valid in that way neither.

the point is, if the torah prescribes almost everyone to death, isnt it better to learn that the torah also gives life by teaching us that the absolute judgement is wrong,
and always deserves death.

as opposite we have christ and love, and it is love that says sin is relative, and how further away from love how more damage you evoke, and how further away fromt he great commandment of loving god, he is all, and one, all toegether, as much as you can.
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i have a bit of a bad feeling, these discussions cost me, i dont want to fight with you...maybe my responses can hep you at least have a secure own view of things, because when there is any doubt, it is not wise to call one a sinner.

in the end i just wished people wouldnt damage me and all gaypeople, just like they damage many other kinds of people emotionally. but hey, it snot a perfect world yet, and i am tired of arguing.

i just ask you what would jesus do when he sees a gay ?
u really think jesus was the teacher of fear of hell ?
hell is not even exisiting in the jewish worldview,
its another dogma of christianity.and christianity theology then is not the same as the gospel.

im tired of fighting good people, even if they are partly ignorant.
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Not fighting you, your my brother and I am trying to show you the truth.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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No one is saying GAY People are worse than any other person, that is not even the issue..

It is Homosexuality it is so contrary to why GOD created Mankind that the Abomination of Homosexuality is going to destroy the nation...

Does not mean that all GAY People are going to be destroyed but Homosexuality just like Abortion will be destroyed for good.

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bsflag Christianity is so fucking stupid.
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some gramatical and language errors, but u get the message if u wish im sure.
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I do keep,the true sabbath holy Friday till Saturday night, just as God commanded all His children to do through all generations. Don't worry about what other Christians do, worry about what you do. Sodomy i a sin, homosexuality is a sin, and that is the TRUTH.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


if you take the law literal, take in attention that a gentile is not supposed to keep the sabbath in the way a jew does. the penalty is severe, if you put so much importance to the jewish religion.

i dont say this to scare you, i say this to make a point.

u can not use the law, and then abuse against it.
i dont say that because you have to think as me,
i say this because as long u see sin in gays,
more then in other non attacking sins,
u make them less then yourself. and this thinking is dangerous.
 Quoting: anom 35335472


And that is another lie of the church, they altered the true sabbath, I have two translations that prove Sunday sabbath is false. According to Gods laws you are sinning. Like I said I will pray for you, and I won't cast any stones or condemn you. I will let your actions do that.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


---

you know the noahide laws ?
a non jew is not supposed to keep the sabbath, penalty is harsh, actually the torah prescribes many to deatch if it would be valid, there is no temple, so it is not valid in that way neither.

the point is, if the torah prescribes almost everyone to death, isnt it better to learn that the torah also gives life by teaching us that the absolute judgement is wrong,
and always deserves death.

as opposite we have christ and love, and it is love that says sin is relative, and how further away from love how more damage you evoke, and how further away fromt he great commandment of loving god, he is all, and one, all toegether, as much as you can.
 Quoting: anom 35335472


The noahide laws also say to cut the heads of off idolaters, such as Christians worshipping a false Messiah, Jesus Christ. The Noahide law will be enforced in our country very soon.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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well, or the law indeed kills or the law sets us free after we accepted the sin in all, and search the justification, not the sin...its your pick.

the spirit gives itself realtive over time,
so how can we judge absolute ?
we cannot, until we realise, god does not judge himself,
it is us that choose not to care about god his whole body.
an indirect judgement from god, is still one of him,
but not of him.
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No one is saying GAY People are worse than any other person, that is not even the issue..

It is Homosexuality it is so contrary to why GOD created Mankind that the Abomination of Homosexuality is going to destroy the nation...

Does not mean that all GAY People are going to be destroyed but Homosexuality just like Abortion will be destroyed for good.

 Quoting: christian


That is such a false teaching.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Nope. He never preached against homosexuality.
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Nope. He never preached against homosexuality.
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And what do you suppose sexual immorality is?

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But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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No one is saying GAY People are worse than any other person, that is not even the issue..

It is Homosexuality it is so contrary to why GOD created Mankind that the Abomination of Homosexuality is going to destroy the nation...

Does not mean that all GAY People are going to be destroyed but Homosexuality just like Abortion will be destroyed for good.

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That is such a false teaching.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


You believe Homosexuality will be around in the World to Come?????
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you ever stole something ?
ever manipulated someone to love you more ?
stole a sabbath ?
stealing by law
what is the punishment ?

ever divided god ? so then you knew another god ? idoltry ?

torah and noahide laws

the law is made like this, because it is here to explain to us, god is black white, or he punishes everybody, or he frees everybody who wants to be free in him and with him as all.

i can repeat this over and over,

the law is not made for cherrypickers.
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No one is saying GAY People are worse than any other person, that is not even the issue..

It is Homosexuality it is so contrary to why GOD created Mankind that the Abomination of Homosexuality is going to destroy the nation...

Does not mean that all GAY People are going to be destroyed but Homosexuality just like Abortion will be destroyed for good.

 Quoting: christian


That is such a false teaching.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


You believe Homosexuality will be around in the World to Come?????
 Quoting: christian


No absolutely not but if people are deviating from Devine laws, such as actively in homosexual relationships, then they go to once place. So to say some gays won't go, all will go unless they repent.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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No one is saying GAY People are worse than any other person, that is not even the issue..

It is Homosexuality it is so contrary to why GOD created Mankind that the Abomination of Homosexuality is going to destroy the nation...

Does not mean that all GAY People are going to be destroyed but Homosexuality just like Abortion will be destroyed for good.

 Quoting: christian


That is such a false teaching.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


You believe Homosexuality will be around in the World to Come?????
 Quoting: christian


you think sexuality will be the greatest concern ?
but if god and his angels wants to hug a man, why not,
it is not hurting him.

heaven is a place of adventure, of free people, that do not harm the one anymore.
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you ever stole something ?
ever manipulated someone to love you more ?
stole a sabbath ?
stealing by law
what is the punishment ?

ever divided god ? so then you knew another god ? idoltry ?

torah and noahide laws

the law is made like this, because it is here to explain to us, god is black white, or he punishes everybody, or he frees everybody who wants to be free in him and with him as all.

i can repeat this over and over,

the law is not made for cherrypickers.
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I repent every single day because I am a man and I am a sinner. I am not cherry picking. I am calling an apple an apple.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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No one is saying GAY People are worse than any other person, that is not even the issue..

It is Homosexuality it is so contrary to why GOD created Mankind that the Abomination of Homosexuality is going to destroy the nation...

Does not mean that all GAY People are going to be destroyed but Homosexuality just like Abortion will be destroyed for good.

 Quoting: christian


That is such a false teaching.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


You believe Homosexuality will be around in the World to Come?????
 Quoting: christian


you think sexuality will be the greatest concern ?
but if god and his angels wants to hug a man, why not,
it is not hurting him.

heaven is a place of adventure, of free people, that do not harm the one anymore.
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I think one sin is enough to prevent you from going to Heaven, why? Because the scriptures tell us that. And hugging a man is different then sodomy.

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But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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No one is saying GAY People are worse than any other person, that is not even the issue..

It is Homosexuality it is so contrary to why GOD created Mankind that the Abomination of Homosexuality is going to destroy the nation...

Does not mean that all GAY People are going to be destroyed but Homosexuality just like Abortion will be destroyed for good.

 Quoting: christian


That is such a false teaching.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


You believe Homosexuality will be around in the World to Come?????
 Quoting: christian


No absolutely not but if people are deviating from Devine laws, such as actively in homosexual relationships, then they go to once place. So to say some gays won't go, all will go unless they repent.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


please study what hell really is,, you never pleaded with god to explain you hell ? you think god is not free so he needs us to suffer forever ? he is need of that ?

christian dogma, there is dead or live after this life, but not endless suffering.
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eternal means that the memory of you and this moment lives in god forever but is banned to be relived...this is the pit.

the fire is the old you that is burned into a new one, better you.

good night.
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eternal means that the memory of you and this moment lives in god forever but is banned to be relived...this is the pit.

the fire is the old you that is burned into a new one, better you.

good night.
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Good night.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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This is exactly why I created this thread, for the Christians who are under the false impression that homosexuality is not a sin, and that Jesus approved of it.
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I don't understand why the gay thing is made to be such a big issue. Who cares what a person likes to do sexually. It seems like gays want people to feel sorry for their choices. Most of the time they're the ones causing attention to their lifestyle.

I think we have more important issues in society, than sexual preference. Why aren't people concerned that every other week our government is announcing some historic deficit??
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This is exactly why I created this thread, for the Christians who are under the false impression that homosexuality is not a sin, and that Jesus approved of it.
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Homosexuality has always been a SIN from the Book of Genesis, it is what destroys civilizations..


The Bible has been clear on this issue...
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Nope. He never preached against homosexuality.
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And what do you suppose sexual immorality is?
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I said HE(as in Jesus), never said anything about homosexuality. It's in your Bible, but Jesus didn't address it.
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It's okay to sell your daughter into slavery prostitution SAYS THE BIBLE:


Exodus 21:7-11 And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.


It's also okay to stone your children to death SAYS THE BIBLE:

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


The bible is a MAN WRITTEN fairy tale story, you know fairy tales are stories with stuff like TALKING SNAKES!
Which also is in the Bible FYI.

Anyone that thinks "god" is the bibles words "we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind."

Keep your religion to yourself, everybody believes different things.
All religions are a hoax, just control programs for the masses that can't think logically. sheeplebah
Or do you need the talking snake to tell you that?

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THE most apt graphic for you AC. ...and you posted it yourself. It's what spoiled children do when they don't want to listen to the truth:

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This is exactly why I created this thread, for the Christians who are under the false impression that homosexuality is not a sin, and that Jesus approved of it.
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Homosexuality has always been a SIN from the Book of Genesis, it is what destroys civilizations..


The Bible has been clear on this issue...
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I understand that, but there is a concerted effort now to pervert Christians into accepting it, and not condemning it. Take a look at this website:

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"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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