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Jesus Christ Preached Against Homosexuality, But He Also Said Not To Judge Others

 
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It's no worse than masturbation in your gods eyes. I'm sure you participate in that debauchery quite often.
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I hear often from gay rights activists that Jesus Christ never spoke out about homosexuality or that He never mentioned sexual orientation. This is to set the record straight, so that those with an agenda can stop claiming things they know nothing about.

This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:

Mark 7:21-22

"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

So, do not let anyone tell you that Jesus Christ never spoke out against homosexuality, and that He didn't support traditional marriage. Furthermore, it is not possible for you to be a gay Christian. That is the same thing as claiming to be a Christian thief - if you are unrepentant for your sin and you continue that sin in ignorance of Jesus' teachings, you are a walking contradiction.

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.
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Marriage has become a abomination, it is not as it was in time of the past, in the Millennium marriage shall once again hold it sacred meaning. Man is to be with Women in righteousness in selflessness of each, anything else is defilement of the contract created, for when one enters into marriage a one time contract is written bound are they in spirit and accountability for each others spirit.

It is also wrong of man to leave their wife and a wife to leave her man and marry another while they yet live, for this is adultery it is wrong of man or women to lust after another even if it be only in mind this too is adultery.

Marriage originally was the sacred union to create life the gift that was given to create life so they may know the joy of love. It has become a abomination for children are born stained and evil spirits overtake them and they become cursed and their children are cursed for it passes through the bloodlines. The world right now is at brink of destruction, it is full of sin and filthiness. The cup shall not be held back much longer when the Sun turns it focus on the world and woes cometh when the air is wounded the cup has been given back.
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Very true, and well said my friend :-)
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I really doubt he said "haven't you read" as most people in that day were illiterate. Kinda throws the whole story off, don't you think?
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if we don't teach our children to think, Christianity will teach them not to
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Best quote I have ever seen.
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For someone who sanctions thinking, you sure have few words to back up that sponsorship...
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I don't need to write a book or a giant list of bogus bible quotes to make my point sussinctly.
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The media manipulates information on a massive scale. What makes you even think the Bible has come this far without being manipulated just once.

Lets look into perspective. Truth is sought out by personal experience. Joe Blow can tell you he has experienced the best butter in the world. You however wont truly believe it until you try it for yourself.

Now lets just suppose you were not living during the era when Jesus walked the earth. Lets just suppose you were not reincarnated during this time. How would you truly know what he spoke of or what he stood for?

Have you understood what homosexuality is? Do you truly believe that homosexuals chose to have 95% of the world hate them? People can be born with both male and female parts. What makes you think manipulation of biology stops at the physical particles?

Good day to you.
 Quoting: Cebeij


It's funny you mentioned manipulation, because that's what you just did. You conflated several different topics with this one to confuse, redirect, and disorient. God and His Son Jesus Christ have both said that homosexuality is wrong, the evidence contained in the bible is overwhelming.
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I hear often from gay rights activists that Jesus Christ never spoke out about homosexuality or that He never mentioned sexual orientation. This is to set the record straight, so that those with an agenda can stop claiming things they know nothing about.

This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:

Mark 7:21-22

"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

So, do not let anyone tell you that Jesus Christ never spoke out against homosexuality, and that He didn't support traditional marriage. Furthermore, it is not possible for you to be a gay Christian. That is the same thing as claiming to be a Christian thief - if you are unrepentant for your sin and you continue that sin in ignorance of Jesus' teachings, you are a walking contradiction.

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.
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Who the fuck even cares what "Jesus" said about homosexuals?

If you're homosexual, you should be free to live in peace without being attacked by BLOOD-SUCKING RELIGIOUS FREAKS LIKE YOU.
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Listen guys....

Let he who has no sin cast the first stone...!!!

Do you understand this?

You is not your job to belittle, bully or fearmonger someone because of their sexual preferrence.

And yes, I FIRMLY believe Jesus Christ would say the same thing in this situation.

I don't care what your sexual preferrences are. That is between you and The Lord. I am cammanded to love my neighbor as myself. It doesn't say love your neighbor as yourself but not if he's gay....

Goodness, what is wrong with some people.!!!

Not one of you have ever towed the line. Not one...!!!

But you have the nerve to threaten someone else's salvation?

Condemn another to hell...?
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You bring up an excellent point, one that I knew would be included in this discussion. That is why I included this in my original post:

"With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind."

Perhaps you didn't read all the way through?
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

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I hear often from gay rights activists that Jesus Christ never spoke out about homosexuality or that He never mentioned sexual orientation. This is to set the record straight, so that those with an agenda can stop claiming things they know nothing about.

This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:

Mark 7:21-22

"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

So, do not let anyone tell you that Jesus Christ never spoke out against homosexuality, and that He didn't support traditional marriage. Furthermore, it is not possible for you to be a gay Christian. That is the same thing as claiming to be a Christian thief - if you are unrepentant for your sin and you continue that sin in ignorance of Jesus' teachings, you are a walking contradiction.

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.
 Quoting: Rising Son



Who the fuck even cares what "Jesus" said about homosexuals?

If you're homosexual, you should be free to live in peace without being attacked by BLOOD-SUCKING RELIGIOUS FREAKS LIKE YOU.
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No one is attacking them, we are simply pointing out that Christ spoke against it, because many people I know that have debated with me about this claim that He never did. That is the purpose of this thread.
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The media manipulates information on a massive scale. What makes you even think the Bible has come this far without being manipulated just once.

Lets look into perspective. Truth is sought out by personal experience. Joe Blow can tell you he has experienced the best butter in the world. You however wont truly believe it until you try it for yourself.

Now lets just suppose you were not living during the era when Jesus walked the earth. Lets just suppose you were not reincarnated during this time. How would you truly know what he spoke of or what he stood for?

Have you understood what homosexuality is? Do you truly believe that homosexuals chose to have 95% of the world hate them? People can be born with both male and female parts. What makes you think manipulation of biology stops at the physical particles?

Good day to you.
 Quoting: Cebeij


It's funny you mentioned manipulation, because that's what you just did. You conflated several different topics with this one to confuse, redirect, and disorient. God and His Son Jesus Christ have both said that homosexuality is wrong, the evidence contained in the bible is overwhelming.
 Quoting: Rising Son


The evidence that priests fuck pre-adult boys is overwhelming. Ever think that your gay priests' rape of young boys may contribute to what you see as a problem?
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I hear often from gay rights activists that Jesus Christ never spoke out about homosexuality or that He never mentioned sexual orientation. This is to set the record straight, so that those with an agenda can stop claiming things they know nothing about.

This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:

Mark 7:21-22

"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

So, do not let anyone tell you that Jesus Christ never spoke out against homosexuality, and that He didn't support traditional marriage. Furthermore, it is not possible for you to be a gay Christian. That is the same thing as claiming to be a Christian thief - if you are unrepentant for your sin and you continue that sin in ignorance of Jesus' teachings, you are a walking contradiction.

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.
 Quoting: Rising Son



Who the fuck even cares what "Jesus" said about homosexuals?

If you're homosexual, you should be free to live in peace without being attacked by BLOOD-SUCKING RELIGIOUS FREAKS LIKE YOU.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5538756


Your attitude will change when God's hand passes over this Earth, that is if your given that opportunity. Your cries and prayers won't be heard in Hell buddy
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The media manipulates information on a massive scale. What makes you even think the Bible has come this far without being manipulated just once.

Lets look into perspective. Truth is sought out by personal experience. Joe Blow can tell you he has experienced the best butter in the world. You however wont truly believe it until you try it for yourself.

Now lets just suppose you were not living during the era when Jesus walked the earth. Lets just suppose you were not reincarnated during this time. How would you truly know what he spoke of or what he stood for?

Have you understood what homosexuality is? Do you truly believe that homosexuals chose to have 95% of the world hate them? People can be born with both male and female parts. What makes you think manipulation of biology stops at the physical particles?

Good day to you.
 Quoting: Cebeij


It's funny you mentioned manipulation, because that's what you just did. You conflated several different topics with this one to confuse, redirect, and disorient. God and His Son Jesus Christ have both said that homosexuality is wrong, the evidence contained in the bible is overwhelming.
 Quoting: Rising Son


The evidence that priests fuck pre-adult boys is overwhelming. Ever think that your gay priests' rape of young boys may contribute to what you see as a problem?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35301866


They ain't my priests and the Catholic Church is an abomination, as are most churches these days.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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You hear that gay Christians? The Bible calls for your murder. Why would you try to be a member of a religion that calls for your murder? Join the Gnosics.
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The bible does not call for the murder of Christians who have fallen prey to homosexuality. The bible calls for us to help them and love them, so that they may overcome the evil that has taken hold of them.
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I hear often from gay rights activists that Jesus Christ never spoke out about homosexuality or that He never mentioned sexual orientation. This is to set the record straight, so that those with an agenda can stop claiming things they know nothing about.

This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:

Mark 7:21-22

"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

So, do not let anyone tell you that Jesus Christ never spoke out against homosexuality, and that He didn't support traditional marriage. Furthermore, it is not possible for you to be a gay Christian. That is the same thing as claiming to be a Christian thief - if you are unrepentant for your sin and you continue that sin in ignorance of Jesus' teachings, you are a walking contradiction.

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.
 Quoting: Rising Son



Who the fuck even cares what "Jesus" said about homosexuals?

If you're homosexual, you should be free to live in peace without being attacked by BLOOD-SUCKING RELIGIOUS FREAKS LIKE YOU.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5538756


Your attitude will change when God's hand passes over this Earth, that is if your given that opportunity. Your cries and prayers won't be heard in Hell buddy
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Come on. Hell can't be that bad at all. If it were, that would mean Satan was doing god's bidding. I've never read anything that would lead me to believe that Satan is in league with God about the conditions in Hell.
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I hear often from gay rights activists that Jesus Christ never spoke out about homosexuality or that He never mentioned sexual orientation. This is to set the record straight, so that those with an agenda can stop claiming things they know nothing about.

This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:

Mark 7:21-22

"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

So, do not let anyone tell you that Jesus Christ never spoke out against homosexuality, and that He didn't support traditional marriage. Furthermore, it is not possible for you to be a gay Christian. That is the same thing as claiming to be a Christian thief - if you are unrepentant for your sin and you continue that sin in ignorance of Jesus' teachings, you are a walking contradiction.

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.
 Quoting: Rising Son



Who the fuck even cares what "Jesus" said about homosexuals?

If you're homosexual, you should be free to live in peace without being attacked by BLOOD-SUCKING RELIGIOUS FREAKS LIKE YOU.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5538756


Your attitude will change when God's hand passes over this Earth, that is if your given that opportunity. Your cries and prayers won't be heard in Hell buddy
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Come on. Hell can't be that bad at all. If it were, that would mean Satan was doing god's bidding. I've never read anything that would lead me to believe that Satan is in league with God about the conditions in Hell.
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I hear often from gay rights activists that Jesus Christ never spoke out about homosexuality or that He never mentioned sexual orientation. This is to set the record straight, so that those with an agenda can stop claiming things they know nothing about.

This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:

Mark 7:21-22

"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

So, do not let anyone tell you that Jesus Christ never spoke out against homosexuality, and that He didn't support traditional marriage. Furthermore, it is not possible for you to be a gay Christian. That is the same thing as claiming to be a Christian thief - if you are unrepentant for your sin and you continue that sin in ignorance of Jesus' teachings, you are a walking contradiction.

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.
 Quoting: Rising Son



Who the fuck even cares what "Jesus" said about homosexuals?

If you're homosexual, you should be free to live in peace without being attacked by BLOOD-SUCKING RELIGIOUS FREAKS LIKE YOU.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5538756


Your attitude will change when God's hand passes over this Earth, that is if your given that opportunity. Your cries and prayers won't be heard in Hell buddy
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Come on. Hell can't be that bad at all. If it were, that would mean Satan was doing god's bidding. I've never read anything that would lead me to believe that Satan is in league with God about the conditions in Hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35301866


Just keep telling those lies to yourself. You will regret all your sinful ways once your judgment has been declared.

And Satan is not doing God's bidding, you are doing Satan's though

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Who the fuck even cares what "Jesus" said about homosexuals?

If you're homosexual, you should be free to live in peace without being attacked by BLOOD-SUCKING RELIGIOUS FREAKS LIKE YOU.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5538756


Your attitude will change when God's hand passes over this Earth, that is if your given that opportunity. Your cries and prayers won't be heard in Hell buddy
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Come on. Hell can't be that bad at all. If it were, that would mean Satan was doing god's bidding. I've never read anything that would lead me to believe that Satan is in league with God about the conditions in Hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35301866


Just keep telling those lies to yourself. You will regret all your sinful ways once your judgment has been declared.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Explain. Prove me wrong or piss off.
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It's okay to sell your daughter into slavery prostitution SAYS THE BIBLE:


Exodus 21:7-11 And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.


It's also okay to stone your children to death SAYS THE BIBLE:

Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.


The bible is a MAN WRITTEN fairy tale story, you know fairy tales are stories with stuff like TALKING SNAKES!
Which also is in the Bible FYI.

Anyone that thinks "god" is the bibles words "we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind."

Keep your religion to yourself, everybody believes different things.
All religions are a hoax, just control programs for the masses that can't think logically. sheeplebah
Or do you need the talking snake to tell you that?

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You have taken these stories out of context. If someone were to look at your passages very closely, they would see that the claims the mother and father have about their son being a glutton and drunkard are not found anywhere earlier in your passage choice. That's because it is found before your passage choice, where it details how wicked the son had become. The point of the story was to show how passionate we should be in putting evil away from among us.

As far as the father selling his daughter into slavery, the passage very carefully details the continued responsibilities of the father, as well as his son in the care of his daughter. You neglect to include the context of the time, in which something like this was commonplace. Of course, this would seem barbaric to us today, but you would think capital punishment, abortion, and euthanasia would be eradicated as well. They're not.
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Your attitude will change when God's hand passes over this Earth, that is if your given that opportunity. Your cries and prayers won't be heard in Hell buddy
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Come on. Hell can't be that bad at all. If it were, that would mean Satan was doing god's bidding. I've never read anything that would lead me to believe that Satan is in league with God about the conditions in Hell.
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Just keep telling those lies to yourself. You will regret all your sinful ways once your judgment has been declared.
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Explain. Prove me wrong or piss off.
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My Father will prove it to you very soon. His power will be felt by the world this year, and if your lucky to be alive after I would repent.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Come on. Hell can't be that bad at all. If it were, that would mean Satan was doing god's bidding. I've never read anything that would lead me to believe that Satan is in league with God about the conditions in Hell.
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Just keep telling those lies to yourself. You will regret all your sinful ways once your judgment has been declared.
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Explain. Prove me wrong or piss off.
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My Father will prove it to you very soon. His power will be felt by the world this year, and if your lucky to be alive after I would repent.
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Eh, I'll take my chances. I don't feel like adding a mental disorder like religion to my life. Repenting is for sissies anyway.
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i am always amazed at how much time christains think about what other men stick in each others butts. why on earth do any of you care. you say its for the family but its obviously about control. if any of you were too listen with your hearts and not your fears you would know this too.
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We care when the basic tenets and building blocks of life are being torn down for the benefit of a few individuals. Gay marriage is an attempt by the gay community to gain the attention they so desperately need, and to denigrate the traditional, religious definition of marriage because it flies in the face of their immorality. Granted, heterosexual marriage does not have the best track record, and that would be an understatement. Many would argue that marriage is already dead for that very reason. The acceptance of gay marriage would eliminate the need for debate.
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The Bond Between Man and Woman



There's a deep spiritual reasoning behind Adam and Eve's creation. Let's take a look.
 
 
Genesis  2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
 
 
Genesis 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 
 
 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 
 
 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. 
 
 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 
 
 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. 
 
 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. 
 
 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 
 
 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 
 
 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 
 
 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
 
 
So here we have Adam,  the perfect human at that point. He knew no evil,  only the Words of his Creator. However, God saw that although everything was perfect as it was, that man needed a mate. He thereby created Eve. Now, Father could have made Eve just like He made Adam, but He didn't. He took one of Adams ribs and made her. Therefore, woman was a part of man and man was a part of woman. So now we all understand what it means when God said;
 
"2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." - Genesis
 
 
A man needs a woman and a woman needs a man, in order to be WHOLE, in order to be PERFECT (Adam, one flesh) . Man and woman NEED each other PERIOD. Of course, this is assuming that both are people of God. This is why man has traits that the woman does not and vice versa. Both sides need the traits of the opposite sex. A man needs a caring, nurturing woman, who is able to back him and be there for him at all times. When he's stressed, he needs her to lift his burdens away. When he's sick, she'll be there to help aide him to wellness. A woman needs a guide, a protector, a strong man. One who will deal with all her emotional issues/stresses, her lows and her highs. One that will be there, when she needs a shoulder to cry on. A man that will make her smile, when everything seems to be going wrong. A man and woman together under God is a powerful thing. So, you should also now be aware why Satan has constantly been attacking the family structure. A family without both man and wife is broken. It cannot stand. Especially when it comes to children, because that ONE unit that he/she needs is absent, it's divided. This is also why we have homosexuality and divorce. Homosexuality goes against the very REASONING behind God's will for man and woman.
 
 
Man and man cannot stand. Woman and woman cannot stand. If it were in Father's will for homosexuality to be acceptable, then both sexes would have the appropriate body parts, in order to procreate. This is also why a man in a homosexual relationship lacks the necessities of a wife. This is also why a woman in a homosexual relationship lacks the necessities of a husband. It cannot happen, because it wasn't MEANT to happen. As for divorce, it's common sense really. If people followed Father and allowed Him to choose their mates, we wouldn't see the mess that we do. Now, divorce is just a cop out, if you want another mate or because the spouse didn't give what the other wanted. God is against that. Also, I believe that most of us all have a yearning to be with someone. God allowed us to have that (although not all are meant nor fit to be married). However, these days, since people know not God, they go about finding it all wrong and honestly it just creates a big mess. Unplanned pregnancy, broken hearts, all of that. The media and society, doesn't help neither, for it teaches us, that the man should only seek after his wants and not the woman's and vice versa. Judging from all the complaints on here about people's relationships, that's exactly what people are believing to be right. Satan knows, that a family under God cannot be destroyed. 
 
Matthew  18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 
 
18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. (This does apply to families as well). 
 
 
Ephesians  5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 
 
 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 
 
 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. 
 
 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 
 
 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 
 
5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 
 
 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 
 
 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 
 
 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 
 
 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 
 
 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 
 
 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
 
 
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Well said!!!
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I really doubt he said "haven't you read" as most people in that day were illiterate. Kinda throws the whole story off, don't you think?
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You forget that Jesus' disciples were all devout Jews, so of course they would have read, or at least heard of those stories.
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Those Jesus Freaks
Well, they're friendly but
The shit they believe
Has got their minds all shut
An' they don't even care
When the church takes a cut
Ain't it bleak when you got so much nothin'
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if we don't teach our children to think, Christianity will teach them not to
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Best quote I have ever seen.
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For someone who sanctions thinking, you sure have few words to back up that sponsorship...
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I don't need to write a book or a giant list of bogus bible quotes to make my point sussinctly.
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There is nothing about those quotes that makes them bogus. I respect being able to make your point in few words and in your own words. I surmise your point is that Christians teach their children not to think. I am a walking contradiction to that claim, because I am a child of a Christian and I have been taught to think my entire life. If you are saying that I am not open minded enough and that I take all my talking points from the bible, you would be mistaken - I reference the bible, but I do not let the bible speak for me.
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Just another ridiculous post about someone else's business.

What does it fricken matter to you, it has no impact on you- don't like gays in media, stop watching - it would do you well.

When is the last time a man ran up to you, ripped off your pants and stuck his dick up your ass?

It continues to be a debate that has no barring on your well being... Perhaps we will call it a smoke screen to make you talk and obsess over what is not important, but sure drives a great debate while they strip your freedoms, bankrupt the country, attack foreign sovereign nations, sell drugs through the CIA, privatize prisons and imprison record numbers.

WAKE THE HELL UP AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING USEFUL!!!!! UNPIN PLEASE!

I am not gay, I don't understand it and don't care, that is their choice and their path... Not yours
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All due respect...you are dead wrong.

EVERY aspect of society begins with change, often just a few doing or accepting the change. ANYONE with children KNOWS your words to be false. Children grow up in a changing society and ARE influenced by it and that includes ANY changes.

Case in point. Many people said to "butt out" of the highly controversial battle of women in the military wanting equal rights on the battle fields. "What's it to you?" They said. Now they have those equal rights and guess what? The proverbial slippery slope is in full motion. They are now discussing whether or not ALL women should be included in selective service." Why? Because they reason, and rightly so, if a woman can now be on the battle field than ALL woman should have to be in selective service.

So please do NOT insult my intelligence and tell me that changes in society do not affect me or my children! Because you are sooo wrong.
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This is just common sense.. Not sure how gay men can think it's normal for them to put the seed of life into another man's hairy sh!thole and try to justify it .

It's not in the design of nature and only someone perverse in the mind would want it. I hope you gays can fight this demon and win because it's making a fool of you and your better than that.

Really, Take two steps back before you slam that other guys butthole and think to yourself if it's really in the grand scheme of things for your to crave that nasty butthole so much to defy the creator. Guys,, that's hole is for taking dumps.. not making love.
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Those Jesus Freaks
Well, they're friendly but
The shit they believe
Has got their minds all shut
An' they don't even care
When the church takes a cut
Ain't it bleak when you got so much nothin'
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Those atheists
They wonder about us
I wonder if we're doing right
If all of this is worth the fuss
They have no idea
What beauty awaits us
If only they'd table their pride
And turn their hearts to Jesus
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By this reasoning then, Jesus was married.
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That is a really good point, and I as a Christian am not averse to the discussion of whether or not Jesus was married. If He practiced what He preached, then by all means, He should have been married. I don't know if the DaVinci Code is at all correct, but Christ being married is certainly not a game changer for me. If anything, it provides me even more conviction in my beliefs.
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Perhaps he was a eunich like others of his time, but in His case by choice? So that He would be more free to go about His Father's work? Even Paul talked about this when he was discussing marriage and the rules of marriage and divorce.
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1 Corinthians 13:11 "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

READ IT AND READ IT WELL. Then READ IT AGAIN UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND IT.

When...

- The Government is 20 TRILLION in debt...
- When the CIA can kidnap and murder at will (in gross violation of Exodus 20:13)...
- When FEMA are building death camps across the USA...
- When the mark of the beast is on every product and being chipped into dogs and humans...
- When World War Three is just around the corner in the Middle East...
- When nearly 50,000,000 Americans live on food stamps...
- When millions are homeless in the USA...
- When taxpayers cash is going to fund huge bonuses for the worshippers of Mammon...

...DON"T WASTE OUR TIME WITH YOUR TRIVIAL DRIVEL.
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I understand your frustration with the growing number of real problems we have in this country, and in this world. However, the concept of marriage and family are the building blocks of life and of this country. If we allow them to be destroyed, nothing else will matter because we have become rotten from within.
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This!! ^^
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By this reasoning then, Jesus was married.
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That is a really good point, and I as a Christian am not averse to the discussion of whether or not Jesus was married. If He practiced what He preached, then by all means, He should have been married. I don't know if the DaVinci Code is at all correct, but Christ being married is certainly not a game changer for me. If anything, it provides me even more conviction in my beliefs.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Perhaps he was a eunich like others of his time, but in His case by choice? So that He would be more free to go about His Father's work? Even Paul talked about this when he was discussing marriage and the rules of marriage and divorce.
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If by Eunuch you mean a celibate man, then I would assume that is the understanding by a majority of Christians today. It is hard to say, because the DaVinci Code brings up several good points, and when you couple that with the fact that early Christian priests were allowed to marry, it's hard not to wonder if Jesus was in fact married - and they chose to take that point out of the bible at the Council of Nicaea.

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