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Jesus Christ Preached Against Homosexuality, But He Also Said Not To Judge Others

 
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u can not use a law to prison one, and free another...
the law of the torah is only only valid through its entire understanding and acceptance...

first you have the mistranslations that made a christian dogma...then you have the real accusations of a free sexual life through the torah, which counts for everybody, but these judgements of torah are for ALL THE SAME, death at the end of your life. and also because of the torah there is LIFE at the end of DEATH.

relgions theology everytime thinks to differentiate between sins, when jesus explained us sin is a relative called "the sin against the spirit" and another name for it is "ignorance against the better truth, which will give another better truth and so on" or the "not caring of this truth"
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it is very sensitive that you understand this, because when elijah comes he will almost be certain has been gay in his human life, to allow the deception (people to think he is the antichrist only based on dogma and this and some other facts) to divide the world so it could finish the life of choice, and choice needs division, as gods creation needed opposites to become one.
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Besides.. hating on gay people is so 1995... *rolls eyes*
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More so 1952...
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its not because someone divides through his presense that he represents division, even jesus divided the crowds in jerusalem and at the end god organised things so people could belief jesus was not the real thing. this happens again. still jesus only preached love, a message you now distort with good intentions i am sure, but it still a manipulation of his words and law, love is the greatest, all prophesies will be gone, but love will stand, love your enemy. throw not the stone.
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one more important thing, even if you love your enemies you can still defend against it if they attack you, you restrain because you see them as equal until you are unable to restrain, this is normal, this is called incapacity, not judgement,but with gays, not the generalisation of gays that all are perverts, but the real gay as a person, they do not attack you, there is not even a reason to defend against them through inapacity, which is not the same thing as judgement, but most carrry judgements against them, and this is a imperfection if it is referenced against the truth of jesus.
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if a heterosexual drunk some years as a drunkard and then at the end of life says "jesus, forgive me" he is a lost sheep, but if a gaymen lives a life of love, believes in christ or truth or love or care, which is the same thing, he is still satan. this is manipulating torah.
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Yes, homosexuality is a sin. No doubt about it. So is lying, backbiting, gossiping, slandering, elevating one's self, self-rightousness.......and so forth. I see no difference.

God hates all sin, all of it.......and fact is that we all sin on a daily basis, every single one of us.

I'm a smoker, is that a sin? Probably, depends on how you look at it. I get angry, usually everyday, at something or another. Is that a sin? Yes. I get impatient, I judge, I do this and that, sometimes knowingly and sometimes I don't even know it. Yea, I sin sometimes without even knowing it. I'm a human.

But here's the deal.......Jesus saved me while I was a sinner. He came to me while I was living in sin and saved me. Only He knew my heart condition, only He knew what made me unique from a lifetime of pain, consequences, choices, and experiences. He knew my deepest heart, my deepest thoughts and feelings. He very gently took my hand and started leading me home. Leading me home is a life long process of learning, refining and changing, from the inside out that takes a lifetime, and it's by means of His Holy Spirit that this change takes place.

I have no doubt that homosexuals are reading this thread, and what purpose does it serve to constantly tell them how sinful they are? Does this not push them away from the Lord and salvation because maybe they feel that they are not worthy and can't be saved? Possibly making them feel that they are not loved by God and equally important to Him?

Is our job as Christians, ambassadors of Christ, to draw people into the Kingdom and let Jesus sort it out later? Is it not the Holy Spirit's job to change a person's heart if the person needs to make changes in some area? How can a person change, learn and grow in the Lord if they are not drawn in the first place, but pushed away because they are not clean enough to begin with? If so, what exactly is clean enough anyway and who determines that? Where is the line drawn and who draws it? I remember Jesus drawing a line in the sand when they were attempting to stone a woman and He said "He who is without sin cast the first stone". I believe that is the example that is set for us.

Jesus also said "I come not to save the righteous, but the sinners". So, who are the sinners? All of us who are humble and honest enough with ourselves and God to admit that we are no better then anyone else because we all sin on a daily basis.

So, again, I ask you brothers and sisters.......what good purpose does constantly talking about homosexuals accomplish other then to probably push those people further away from the Lord?

How would Jesus feel about this? Remember that He loves us all dearly, He wants all of us to be saved. I think He would love the homosexual and guide him/her into a personal relationship with Him so that he/she could be saved. If personal changes need to be made in that person's life later on, He will let that person know by the power of His Holy Spirit.

Love them all into the Kingdom because in reality, we are all the same......all sinners in need of redemption. Jesus loves all of us. Draw them in by shining your light, by loving all people, by showing them the love of God through you..........and then let the Lord work out the rest as only He can.
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if you sin against any law of the torah, you are an absolute sinner, the incapacity of loving god as one deserves death, as death is prescribed for everybody, because all are sinners through torah. the torah only frees us after the death of our sinfull being, by erasing the hate or ignorance (which is the same, because when a thing is ingored you break the golden rule, do not do against another what u dont like they do to you, and the other is being seen as not equal, and hate is still dormant in this state, but present) against god
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the torah is made so we can be trapped in judgements, and see sinners where they are not, or to make equal, all are sinners, so who are we to witness to the sin of anotherr, and divide god.

2 options are put in torah, and jesus explained the better option. jesus attacked in the temple but still went to dinner with them, the attack of jesus in the temple was not one of hate, but of incapacity. yes, he was not one with the father yet, he was human until he went up to his father, even after the cross, he still needed to go up to the father.
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the attack in the temple symbolised the payments of the sinners in life, the tempel is spiritual and to enter the temple we have to prepare with saving oil, this is the payment at the outercourts of the temple (choice), jesus in his attack was a mirror saying we are equal, still you are dual, because you differentiate and sell salvation at the outer courts, which is normal because this is the truth of life before life is truth.
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I will share with you guys something else that I realized a while back.

The only time we are not sinning is when we are praising God. That is how wicked we are.........all of us.....christians too.

Realizing that, how can we point the finger at others who are lost? Cause in reality, we are all lost.

This is what the Bible says about us "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"

So, can a homosexual be a christian? Many of you answered no.

Let's rephrase that question.....can a sinner be a christian? If you answered no, then you're saying that Jesus saves nobody because we are all sinners.

A few weeks ago the Lord said to me "Tell them I love them"

He did not say "tell them that I love them, except for homosexuals".

Salvation is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and like a marriage, everyone's relationship is different because we are all different. Let's focus on leading people to Christ and then leave the rest up to Him because in the end, it's between a person and the Lord.

It's good to gently quide, but to shut the door in someone's face and say that they cant' come in is seriously dangerous and treading on territory that belongs to Him that sits on the throne.

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one correction that u dont misunderstand me, jesus dinned with all sinners, not with those particular persons at the temple ofcourse, that u dont take one word to judge all the words.
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lisa, it is not the words you speak but the intention of your heart that is salvation, and even if your words dont always agree with mine, your intentions are what mirrors the christ and call upon his name in spirit and not empty words. if a christian or muslim or chinese or even an ape could intent to love and forgive the all that is, and care for every part in it, he allready lives in heaven, even when he faills before that time.
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lisa, it is not the words you speak but the intention of your heart that is salvation, and even if your words dont always agree with mine, your intentions are what mirrors the christ and call upon his name in spirit and not empty words. if a christian or muslim or chinese or even an ape could intent to love and forgive the all that is, and care for every part in it, he allready lives in heaven, even when he faills before that time.
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Yes, love is the key because God is love.

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Here is a vision I had maybe a year ago or so.

God of the Broken.

I saw Jesus, and then I saw a whole crowd of people coming to Him with smiles on their faces. All of the people were broken in one way or another. They had been hurt by the world, themselves, and others. They were tired and weary.

Some in wheelchairs, some on crutches, some with open wounds and bandages.

All were making their way to Him and He was welcoming them with a smile and outstretched arms.
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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
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2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

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Here is another one. I don't usually share my visions on GLP, but this might help someone out there that is hurting.


Lost Sheep


I saw a vision of a bunch of sheep in a barn, Jesus was the Shepard. There were a bunch of us safe in the barn, a large number of us, but there were also a large number of sheep that had gotten lost and ran off, and He was out looking for them, every single one had incredible importance to Him. I saw multiple eyes in heaven, looking to and fro about the earth searching out His lost sheep.



The Rope


I was just sitting here praying to the Lord about many different things this morning, and I asked Him to help me to hold on till the end.

Immediately a vision opened up in my mind, and I saw His form standing above the clouds. He threw down a large glowing rope and a person grabbed hold of it and was hanging on to the rope for dear life.

The person was struggling trying to climb up the rope and then Jesus started pulling up the rope hand over hand while the person held onto the other end below. Jesus was pulling this person up to heaven.

The person took the first step by grabbing onto the rope that Jesus threw down to him, and then the person took the second step by trying to climb up it. Jesus did the rest.
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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
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_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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lisa, u understand christ had many names ? truth ? way ?
salvation is not of words...not even of an image, not all the world knows jesus as saviour, but they have their hearts and can follow his spiritual image of "truth, god, way".
Jesus never intended to be prayed upon when disconnected from his whole body as one, the christ, the only son of god is god himself. I probably annoy you with my statements, but im a pusher as long i am allowed.
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I hear often from gay rights activists that Jesus Christ never spoke out about homosexuality or that He never mentioned sexual orientation. This is to set the record straight, so that those with an agenda can stop claiming things they know nothing about.

This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:

Mark 7:21-22

"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

So, do not let anyone tell you that Jesus Christ never spoke out against homosexuality, and that He didn't support traditional marriage. Furthermore, it is not possible for you to be a gay Christian. That is the same thing as claiming to be a Christian thief - if you are unrepentant for your sin and you continue that sin in ignorance of Jesus' teachings, you are a walking contradiction.

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.
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Once a person really and truly understands the level of their own depravity, it's very difficult to point the finger at others.

The day I realized the depth of my own fallen state, and my inability to be perfect on my own, I broke down and sobbed on the kitchen counter for quite some time.

I broke down because for the first time I really realized how powerless I was to save myself, how powerless I was to be perfect and sinless on my own, how weak and wicked I truly am.

It was then that I grasped the magnitude of Jesus redeeming me on the cross and paying the full penalty for my sins that day. It is not because of anything that I did, it's all about what He did. I'm just the recipient of that incredible gift, a gift offered out of pure love and mercy so that I can live.

That gift is open to every person on this planet. It is up to the giver of that gift to decide who receives it and who does not.

I'm reminded of the parable of the workers in the vinyard in Matthew chapter 20. Granted, the circumstances are different, but it shows us that it's up to the owner of the vineyard to determine what He gives to each servant and that it's none of our business.......lol.



The Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard

“For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. He agreed to pay them a denarius[a] for the day and sent them into his vineyard.

“About nine in the morning he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. He told them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.’ So they went.

“He went out again about noon and about three in the afternoon and did the same thing. About five in the afternoon he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’

“‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered.

“He said to them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard.’

“When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’

“The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. ‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’

“But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’

“So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”
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_________________________

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sexual immorality is Sado Masochism, Chains and Bondage, attraction to children, and the stuff the leaders and elite are doing.

Christ, metaphor or real, actually told them who their daddy was, and they tried to stone him for it.

Who's your daddy? slap slap. Does he slap you silly? The movie, Master of Disguise.

The "god" or "gods" or ets of the old testament, the smiting, murdering ones, that wasn't god.

This has nothing, nothing, nothing to do with being born with a sexual orientation. Thats hard wired not a program. You get the heevie jeevies if the wrong sex makes a pass.

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I was always drawn to Christ's message. Had discernment, spirit in me since I was preschool. I read the words of Christ and there was Spirit. Read Paul and his sexist remarks, and there was no Presence and I knew as a child, that that was man's words. Read the bible, horrific violent, hellish stuff, and the Spirit is only in some of it.

But then I don't try to smash Love and Goodness/God into a dark side journal, as many do, I read with discernment.

Pay attention to the words of the bible.

Read about the pineal in genesis 32 30, and that is how meet Spirit of God, and Jacob's ladder, the infinite realms to the astrals.

Look closely and read with discernment.

Christ's message, is the way home.

But he was not exactly for their religons, what he showed was the way to set us free, and to free our minds. He said in Matthew, "lest we ask to have our sight and hearing restored"
Ask you and you will receive.

Empty your mind, be water. The tao!


Be Water My Friend! - Bruce Lee Remix | #eTHErSEC

Bruce to me was a Christ and a Buddha as well, and unless he was taken by ETs, they killed him as well. This was his last interview.

Don't try to control consenting adults, who are not abusing or raping others, or murdering, stealing, performing ritual murders, wars, slavery, poisoning earth, sky, sea and running scarsity systems of trauma on earth. There is nothing that 2 consenting homosexuals are doing that is any of your business or that harms.

There are two opposing systems here: the Love of Power and the Power of Love.

Pyramids and the Challice, the inverted pyramid, the Infinite Progressing Equal Family within the Spirit of Divinity/Goodness/Love.

Control, smiting is the Power side, the regression, draco side.

Wake up.
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But he loves everyone and if you repent all is forgiven hf

I get angry at Religious groups who focus on this one sin, makes satan very happy

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keep in mind that repenting is a process, not a one action, "many will have called myname and do miracles in my name" but i will not have know them, this clearly states that the salvation based on a moments faith is wrong, and that salvation comes from a process of repenting, or being baptised by waters until the end (waters means reflecting), the residue is salt (the dead past = woman of the prophet), the manside of the prophet (lot) goes forward, the zoman side goes backward....

this is why homosexuality is abused, marriage in the bible in literal form is a symbol of something, a man and woman joined means the past (woman) looked upon, the future salvation brought forwards (man), through the child of past and future (intention)...it is not homosexuality that is a sin, it is having symbols as your god which is the defect of religion.
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homosexuality as symbol represents, not having reflections and seeing the truth inversed, a man with a man instead of a woman that looked back (reflected = repented).

this is symbolic language hidden in the torah, or the rules of the spirit which is abstract put in literal so one day we could understand, the torah is a trap, or all are sinners, or there is no judgement except the one against the spirit, which is growth towards truth. The real sin is false peace or ignorance against your own complete full and one body of the future.
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this is theology eh. love is the message, but there is also a burden, and it is important to understand the burden of the way. jesus did not remove the law (works), he made clear its intention that automaticly brings works. There is no forgiveness ni a life of ignorance ending with a one second repenting, because one did not want nor intent to be equal to the love of god. still sin is not passion, passion is part of our lives, sin is ignorin a better truth when it asks to be seen, and this negelect every day again.
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The only time we are not sinning is when we are praising God. That is how wicked we are.........all of us.....christians too.

Lisa

That is a terrific statement, many believers would put their nose up in the air, but I agree 100%. I ask God for forgiveness every single day, because I have realized this. I believe it shows Him love, and willingness to allow His hands to conform you. It's as if I am constantly kneeling before Him, and letting Him know that I am not worthy to enter.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Yes, homosexuality is a sin. No doubt about it. So is lying, backbiting, gossiping, slandering, elevating one's self, self-rightousness.......and so forth. I see no difference.

God hates all sin, all of it.......and fact is that we all sin on a daily basis, every single one of us.

I'm a smoker, is that a sin? Probably, depends on how you look at it. I get angry, usually everyday, at something or another. Is that a sin? Yes. I get impatient, I judge, I do this and that, sometimes knowingly and sometimes I don't even know it. Yea, I sin sometimes without even knowing it. I'm a human.

But here's the deal.......Jesus saved me while I was a sinner. He came to me while I was living in sin and saved me. Only He knew my heart condition, only He knew what made me unique from a lifetime of pain, consequences, choices, and experiences. He knew my deepest heart, my deepest thoughts and feelings. He very gently took my hand and started leading me home. Leading me home is a life long process of learning, refining and changing, from the inside out that takes a lifetime, and it's by means of His Holy Spirit that this change takes place.

I have no doubt that homosexuals are reading this thread, and what purpose does it serve to constantly tell them how sinful they are? Does this not push them away from the Lord and salvation because maybe they feel that they are not worthy and can't be saved? Possibly making them feel that they are not loved by God and equally important to Him?

Is our job as Christians, ambassadors of Christ, to draw people into the Kingdom and let Jesus sort it out later? Is it not the Holy Spirit's job to change a person's heart if the person needs to make changes in some area? How can a person change, learn and grow in the Lord if they are not drawn in the first place, but pushed away because they are not clean enough to begin with? If so, what exactly is clean enough anyway and who determines that? Where is the line drawn and who draws it? I remember Jesus drawing a line in the sand when they were attempting to stone a woman and He said "He who is without sin cast the first stone". I believe that is the example that is set for us.

Jesus also said "I come not to save the righteous, but the sinners". So, who are the sinners? All of us who are humble and honest enough with ourselves and God to admit that we are no better then anyone else because we all sin on a daily basis.

So, again, I ask you brothers and sisters.......what good purpose does constantly talking about homosexuals accomplish other then to probably push those people further away from the Lord?

How would Jesus feel about this? Remember that He loves us all dearly, He wants all of us to be saved. I think He would love the homosexual and guide him/her into a personal relationship with Him so that he/she could be saved. If personal changes need to be made in that person's life later on, He will let that person know by the power of His Holy Spirit.

Love them all into the Kingdom because in reality, we are all the same......all sinners in need of redemption. Jesus loves all of us. Draw them in by shining your light, by loving all people, by showing them the love of God through you..........and then let the Lord work out the rest as only He can.
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Lisa, thank you for your words and your wisdom - I read your other postings and you truly embody what it means to be a Christian, I am humbled to be in your presence. You have always been a steadfast and guiding light for me, and I cannot thank you enough for that.

What I will say is that this thread was not meant for those wanting to become Christians, it was meant for those who were already Christians that thought homosexuality was not a sin. I have seen people pervert Jesus' message into supporting gay marriage, and it is deeply troubling, because it gives the idea that all Christians support gay marriage - upon the false belief that Jesus did not see it as a sin.

Here is a website that has truly caught me off guard, simply because the author has also written a book detailing how they believe Jesus supported homosexuality. This is deeply troubling to me, because it leads many Christians astray into thinking that if Jesus supported it, then I should too. When that doesn't work, they use the "Judge not..." argument to keep you from holding an opinion about it, or at least expressing that opinion when confronted with demands for validation of that lifestyle. This is the website:

[link to www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org]
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Yes, homosexuality is a sin. No doubt about it. So is lying, backbiting, gossiping, slandering, elevating one's self, self-rightousness.......and so forth. I see no difference.

God hates all sin, all of it.......and fact is that we all sin on a daily basis, every single one of us.

I'm a smoker, is that a sin? Probably, depends on how you look at it. I get angry, usually everyday, at something or another. Is that a sin? Yes. I get impatient, I judge, I do this and that, sometimes knowingly and sometimes I don't even know it. Yea, I sin sometimes without even knowing it. I'm a human.

But here's the deal.......Jesus saved me while I was a sinner. He came to me while I was living in sin and saved me. Only He knew my heart condition, only He knew what made me unique from a lifetime of pain, consequences, choices, and experiences. He knew my deepest heart, my deepest thoughts and feelings. He very gently took my hand and started leading me home. Leading me home is a life long process of learning, refining and changing, from the inside out that takes a lifetime, and it's by means of His Holy Spirit that this change takes place.

I have no doubt that homosexuals are reading this thread, and what purpose does it serve to constantly tell them how sinful they are? Does this not push them away from the Lord and salvation because maybe they feel that they are not worthy and can't be saved? Possibly making them feel that they are not loved by God and equally important to Him?

Is our job as Christians, ambassadors of Christ, to draw people into the Kingdom and let Jesus sort it out later? Is it not the Holy Spirit's job to change a person's heart if the person needs to make changes in some area? How can a person change, learn and grow in the Lord if they are not drawn in the first place, but pushed away because they are not clean enough to begin with? If so, what exactly is clean enough anyway and who determines that? Where is the line drawn and who draws it? I remember Jesus drawing a line in the sand when they were attempting to stone a woman and He said "He who is without sin cast the first stone". I believe that is the example that is set for us.

Jesus also said "I come not to save the righteous, but the sinners". So, who are the sinners? All of us who are humble and honest enough with ourselves and God to admit that we are no better then anyone else because we all sin on a daily basis.

So, again, I ask you brothers and sisters.......what good purpose does constantly talking about homosexuals accomplish other then to probably push those people further away from the Lord?

How would Jesus feel about this? Remember that He loves us all dearly, He wants all of us to be saved. I think He would love the homosexual and guide him/her into a personal relationship with Him so that he/she could be saved. If personal changes need to be made in that person's life later on, He will let that person know by the power of His Holy Spirit.

Love them all into the Kingdom because in reality, we are all the same......all sinners in need of redemption. Jesus loves all of us. Draw them in by shining your light, by loving all people, by showing them the love of God through you..........and then let the Lord work out the rest as only He can.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Lisa, thank you for your words and your wisdom - I read your other postings and you truly embody what it means to be a Christian, I am humbled to be in your presence. You have always been a steadfast and guiding light for me, and I cannot thank you enough for that.

What I will say is that this thread was not meant for those wanting to become Christians, it was meant for those who were already Christians that thought homosexuality was not a sin. I have seen people pervert Jesus' message into supporting gay marriage, and it is deeply troubling, because it gives the idea that all Christians support gay marriage - upon the false belief that Jesus did not see it as a sin.

Here is a website that has truly caught me off guard, simply because the author has also written a book detailing how they believe Jesus supported homosexuality. This is deeply troubling to me, because it leads many Christians astray into thinking that if Jesus supported it, then I should too. When that doesn't work, they use the "Judge not..." argument to keep you from holding an opinion about it, or at least expressing that opinion when confronted with demands for validation of that lifestyle. This is the website:

[link to www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org]
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And you're a wonderful friend to me as well.

Let's just focus on spreading His love with the world, and let the Holy Spirit do the growing, correcting and changing as need be in each person along the way. You're doing an awesome job, keep on going and remember the love above all else.

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That is a terrific statement, many believers would put their nose up in the air, but I agree 100%. I ask God for forgiveness every single day, because I have realized this. I believe it shows Him love, and willingness to allow His hands to conform you. It's as if I am constantly kneeling before Him, and letting Him know that I am not worthy to enter.
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Yep, it really is the truth, and only the honest hearted can see it and admit it. There was a time when I could not see, let alone, admit it. We are all works in progress.

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"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
___________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

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