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Jesus Christ Preached Against Homosexuality, But He Also Said Not To Judge Others

 
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about the temple: the temple is abstratc language, and homosexuality is not ? you pick and choose
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The temple refers to our body number one, and also the temple in Heaven. Keep sinning against the temple, and you will never see the real temple in Heaven. Again I will pray for you
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yes pray for me...dont forget to ask god to explain why the temple is abstract language and marriage is not, ask him to explain to you why he did not pray for maria magdalena but forgave her, when she kissed his feet.
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about the temple: the temple is abstratc language, and homosexuality is not ? you pick and choose
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The temple refers to our body number one, and also the temple in Heaven. Keep sinning against the temple, and you will never see the real temple in Heaven. Again I will pray for you

And now vitium sodomiticum is not abstract is is quite clear. Anyone that practices sodomy!
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It's interesting that you used the word sodomy, because it's origins come from the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. That is essentially what will happen if this is allowed to go unchallenged and spread.
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This came from the Secrets of Enoch. It is very clear to me why the church left out Enoch and the secrets of Enoch, and Jubilees. They didn't want us to know the truth. Enoch talks about the hell that he saw, and it is not good.


Any act of sodimy is an abomination
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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i am quite sure that jesus would pass by me, i would telle hwat i told in my previous mails, about the pain of my mother and myself, his answer would notbe " you sodomiser, you go to hell", if i would be hurting someone else, i am sure he would stop me from it, but concerning the pains of the mind, he would listen to my pain first.

Secondly, it is a christian misundertsnading, that the torah can be divided in less and more important laws, they are all equal.

Thirtly, enoch was only taken away at the end, before he understood everything, and is it not jesus who learnt us the process of revelation in time, as a plant grows from seed into full.

Fourth, miracles are never proof of anything, so or you get your proof from the torah, which you honor, or the torah is invalid. IF you honor the torah, you are a sinner because you break the law.

Fifth, sodom and gomorrro was about sodomising, which is something else then homosexuality.

now i know which of the five you will respond to first,
although me saying this maybe will change your mind.
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And you're a wonderful friend to me as well.

Let's just focus on spreading His love with the world, and let the Holy Spirit do the growing, correcting and changing as need be in each person along the way. You're doing an awesome job, keep on going and remember the love above all else.

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Thank you, Lisa - as usual, you are correct, and you have showed me the error of my ways. I am so defensive about people who distort the message that I don't see the power that the Holy Spirit has on us to make the determination for us. I keep trying to force or control something I have no business controlling, and I need to trust in Christ that He will guide those chosen to our Father's Kingdom. Thank you :-)


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We are all works in progress sweetie, myself included.

If I ever manage to say anything that is correct, it's not me, it's Him. It's always Him.

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about the temple: the temple is abstratc language, and homosexuality is not ? you pick and choose
 Quoting: anom 35335472


The temple refers to our body number one, and also the temple in Heaven. Keep sinning against the temple, and you will never see the real temple in Heaven. Again I will pray for you
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


yes pray for me...dont forget to ask god to explain why the temple is abstract language and marriage is not, ask him to explain to you why he did not pray for maria magdalena but forgave her, when she kissed his feet.
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None of it abstract really, knock and it will be open, ask and you will receive. Your Heavenly Father loves you but you must renounce this homosexuality that you prescribe to.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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i will never again renounce homosexuality, i pleaded by god to kill me as not to become gay, for many years. what do u not understand ?
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instead of killin me god gave me love and a better truth.
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maybe you can not make an image of it, imagine a boy of 12 years pleading and screaming to god, to let him not go wrong, that he would rather die, because he thought homosexuality was the greatest sin of all, and this until 17 years old, when the church came to tell him, you go to hell.

i only survived well, because i remembered the love of jesus.
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instead of killin me god gave me love and a better truth.
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That was not God that answered you that was the Devil. God is of truth and justice. One sin is enough that is all. I understand you have been LIED to, but it's ok most people have. Your homosexuality is an abomination of the DEVIL
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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maybe you can not make an image of it, imagine a boy of 12 years pleading and screaming to god, to let him not go wrong, that he would rather die, because he thought homosexuality was the greatest sin of all, and this until 17 years old, when the church came to tell him, you go to hell.

i only survived well, because i remembered the love of jesus.
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It's between you and the Lord my friend, and Jesus does love you very much.

hf
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why are you so afraid of the devil ? was peter not satan when jesus told him he would deny him ?

is your faith in god so small, you can not hear my story, and only reply with fear and judgement ?
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lisa: for any other boy christians would cry tears, but for a homosexual, it is between you and god.

christians are programmed to close their hearts in many cases.
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why are you so afraid of the devil ? was peter not satan when jesus told him he would deny him ?

is your faith in god so small, you can not hear my story, and only reply with fear and judgement ?
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Your story is not TRUE. God is of truth and justice period! Your story comes from a fallen angel, Satan. No Jesus never said Peter was a devil, he was saying get behind Him satan, as in to say your faith and flesh are weak, and those things Satan preys upon

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But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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lisa: for any other boy christians would cry tears, but for a homosexual, it is between you and god.

christians are programmed to close their hearts in many cases.
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Nope I dictate myself not as a Christian but a believer in God the Father, and Jesus the Son. It is not a matter of acceptance, it is a matter of truth!
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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satan is not a evil angel, satan is the deceiver force in god,
ask your jewish brothers. christians made dogma of satan.

you didnt reply to my remarks about the torah,
i see you prefer the judgements still.

if your heart becomes quiet and soft, you would be able to listen.
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instead of killin me god gave me love and a better truth.
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That was not God that answered you that was the Devil. God is of truth and justice. One sin is enough that is all. I understand you have been LIED to, but it's ok most people have. Your homosexuality is an abomination of the DEVIL
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Remember how we talked about love, humility and compassion a few weeks ago?

hf
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PS: if you would tell me your cried for 5 years to god as a child, i would think, oh my god, how did he survive, i would have tears in my eyes. nobody of you christians gave me one ounce of care until now. The prayers are more about what is right in your eyes, then what is right for me.
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satan is not a evil angel, satan is the deceiver force in god,
ask your jewish brothers. christians made dogma of satan.

you didnt reply to my remarks about the torah,
i see you prefer the judgements still.

if your heart becomes quiet and soft, you would be able to listen.
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Satan is a fallen angel that rebelled against God, in fact his original and real name is Satanail. You might study more before you let your actions condemn you. And no I don't prefer any judgements at all, what I am saying is we all are judge by Gods laws and not mans. And to say Christians made up Satan, go back and read Enoch, he was a HEBREW, the son of Jared that passed down LAWS to Noah. OK
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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PS: if you would tell me your cried for 5 years to god as a child, i would think, oh my god, how did he survive, i would have tears in my eyes. nobody of you christians gave me one ounce of care until now. The prayers are more about what is right in your eyes, then what is right for me.
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We are all flawed. God loves you, I love you. But, we are all imperfect.

hf
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and jesus told, who gaves his child a stone when he asks bread. think about that, my age then, and what you say about satan answering me.
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PS: if you would tell me your cried for 5 years to god as a child, i would think, oh my god, how did he survive, i would have tears in my eyes. nobody of you christians gave me one ounce of care until now. The prayers are more about what is right in your eyes, then what is right for me.
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We are all flawed. God loves you, I love you. But, we are all imperfect.

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you are still confirming yourself, u still dont see that child, it is not me anymore, i dont need your pity, but the child didnt receive it yet.
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lisa: i use my wordings a bit serious, i dont mean you harm.
i belief theological discussion need to have strong wordings.
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lisa: i use my wordings a bit serious, i dont mean you harm.
i belief theological discussion need to have strong wordings.
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No harm done friend.

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satan is not a evil angel, satan is the deceiver force in god,
ask your jewish brothers. christians made dogma of satan.

you didnt reply to my remarks about the torah,
i see you prefer the judgements still.

if your heart becomes quiet and soft, you would be able to listen.
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Satan is a fallen angel that rebelled against God, in fact his original and real name is Satanail. You might study more before you let your actions condemn you. And no I don't prefer any judgements at all, what I am saying is we all are judge by Gods laws and not mans. And to say Christians made up Satan, go back and read Enoch, he was a HEBREW, the son of Jared that passed down LAWS to Noah. OK
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


you read to much enoch, maybe start with the tora ?
because enoch can not be read without the torah in mind.
or do you follow enoch an dnot jesus ?
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Continued in Matthew 19


10 His disciples said unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

In other words . . . Jesus explained homosexuality was a natural occurrence, a GIFT.

Bumping uglies is a different story!
 Quoting: Jeremiah 24508494


Less commonly, in translations of ancient texts, "eunuch" may refer to a man who is not castrated but who is impotent, celibate or otherwise not inclined to marry and procreate.

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instead of killin me god gave me love and a better truth.
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That was not God that answered you that was the Devil. God is of truth and justice. One sin is enough that is all. I understand you have been LIED to, but it's ok most people have. Your homosexuality is an abomination of the DEVIL
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Remember how we talked about love, humility and compassion a few weeks ago?

hf
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Why yes I do Lisa and I have compassion for this man, in fact saying I wasn't compassion would tell that it's ok what he was doing when it is in direct violation of LAWS, that is the problem with today's churches. I will pray for him because I love him, but it is wrong to say it is OK. This man could be my brother, in fact my mother is a lesbian and I have set her straight according to the LAWS that God gave us, and by denying her flesh her riches will be more in Heaven. You think it was easy to call my own mother out? No but I call her out because I LOVE her, and judgment comes sooner then we think.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Continued in Matthew 19


10 His disciples said unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

In other words . . . Jesus explained homosexuality was a natural occurrence, a GIFT.

Bumping uglies is a different story!
 Quoting: Jeremiah 24508494


Less commonly, in translations of ancient texts, "eunuch" may refer to a man who is not castrated but who is impotent, celibate or otherwise not inclined to marry and procreate.
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Why yes sterilized from birth, like from the mumps you know. I have met men that were present day Eunuchs because mumps went down and seeded into their testicles.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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btw, enoch received parables of above, just as your temple is abstract, but i remember you pick and choose what is abstract, temple yes, marriage no.
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satan is not a evil angel, satan is the deceiver force in god,
ask your jewish brothers. christians made dogma of satan.

you didnt reply to my remarks about the torah,
i see you prefer the judgements still.

if your heart becomes quiet and soft, you would be able to listen.
 Quoting: anom 35335472



Satan is a fallen angel that rebelled against God, in fact his original and real name is Satanail. You might study more before you let your actions condemn you. And no I don't prefer any judgements at all, what I am saying is we all are judge by Gods laws and not mans. And to say Christians made up Satan, go back and read Enoch, he was a HEBREW, the son of Jared that passed down LAWS to Noah. OK
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


you read to much enoch, maybe start with the tora ?
because enoch can not be read without the torah in mind.
or do you follow enoch an dnot jesus ?
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I have read most of the works, and what I am saying is I don't care what your orientation is sexually, I will love you regardless, but the LAW is the law
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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instead of killin me god gave me love and a better truth.
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That was not God that answered you that was the Devil. God is of truth and justice. One sin is enough that is all. I understand you have been LIED to, but it's ok most people have. Your homosexuality is an abomination of the DEVIL
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Remember how we talked about love, humility and compassion a few weeks ago?

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Why yes I do Lisa and I have compassion for this man, in fact saying I wasn't compassion would tell that it's ok what he was doing when it is in direct violation of LAWS, that is the problem with today's churches. I will pray for him because I love him, but it is wrong to say it is OK. This man could be my brother, in fact my mother is a lesbian and I have set her straight according to the LAWS that God gave us, and by denying her flesh her riches will be more in Heaven. You think it was easy to call my own mother out? No but I call her out because I LOVE her, and judgment comes sooner then we think.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I"m glad you love him. Nobody is saying that homosexuality is "ok", and most people know it is against God's law as it's a sin, same as any other sin.

What I am saying is that it's not our job to beat people over the head with the bible, and it doesn't even work anyway. What we can do is love them anyway and let the Holy Spirit do His job. It's not our business to go around condemning others, but it is our job to love them, pray for them, encourage them and build them up.

hf

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