Jesus Christ Preached Against Homosexuality, But He Also Said Not To Judge Others

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.

Continued in Matthew 19


10 His disciples said unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

In other words . . . Jesus explained homosexuality was a natural occurrence, a GIFT.

Bumping uglies is a different story!

Jesus Christ preached about abnormal sex, not homosexuality. God allows humans to pair as they wish, it is abominable sex that harms folks that is forbidden.

im suprised each time someone qotes the bible or the qran and takes what is written in either book as unaltered information from jesus or the prophet. thoose books have been around for so damn long i refuse to belive people havent tinkered just a bit here and a bit there , removed a passage or added one as they saw fit during the years they have been around.

just food for tought

Doesn't surprise me. People don't know how to think for themselves. They let their 'Imam' tell them what to believe. There is NO original Bible. What was written was written by HUMANS....and we all know how humans are innocent and don't have an agenda. Sometime in this Age, Man will leave his religions and decide for himself what he thinks and believes. Until then.....this is what we get.

Been saying this all the time, but no one listens. They are so blind and set in their ways, logic would be a shock to their system.

Jesus Christ preached about abnormal sex, not homosexuality. God allows humans to pair as they wish, it is abominable sex that harms folks that is forbidden.

I hear often from gay rights activists that Jesus Christ never spoke out about homosexuality or that He never mentioned sexual orientation. This is to set the record straight, so that those with an agenda can stop claiming things they know nothing about.

This first passage is Jesus Christ speaking out against homosexuality. Notice that He differentiates between adultery and sexual immorality - this is important to note because the term 'homosexuality' was not common during His time obviously, so He used the term sexual immorality - separate from adultery - to encompass homosexuality and any other sexual wickedness that is immoral:

Mark 7:21-22

"For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly."

This next passage is Jesus' affirmation of the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. He even goes as far as referencing the story of Creation in which God created male and female. Notice how He specifies a man and wife, not a man and his partner or a woman and her partner:

Matthew 19:4-5

"Haven't you read," He replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'?"

So, do not let anyone tell you that Jesus Christ never spoke out against homosexuality, and that He didn't support traditional marriage. Furthermore, it is not possible for you to be a gay Christian. That is the same thing as claiming to be a Christian thief - if you are unrepentant for your sin and you continue that sin in ignorance of Jesus' teachings, you are a walking contradiction.

With all of this being said, it is wrong to cast judgment on others if we ourselves are in need of judgment. However, it is also wrong to support and sponsor immorality while at the same time denigrating the traditional definition of marriage, as Jesus taught us. We all should love homosexuals as we love each other, and in that love, we should yearn to help them overcome their illness of the mind.

Calling sin SIN is NOT judging a person! Sin is sin, period. When we say murder is a SIN, we are not juding the person who murders, we are judging the ACT of murder! It's always been wrong to kill, always will be! It's always been wrong to be homosexual, always will be! Sin is always sin, and again that is NOT judging a person!

Sin literally means separation from god. If you read what Jesus actually said, he said that what man calls 'god' is Spirit. That spirit is within MAN. Knowing oneself is the salvation you speak of, however, Chrisitanity leads astray! Knowing oneself is the process of recovery from separation.

Sin literally means separation from god. If you read what Jesus actually said, he said that what man calls 'god' is Spirit. That spirit is within MAN. Knowing oneself is the salvation you speak of, however, Chrisitanity leads astray! Knowing oneself is the process of recovery from separation.

Christianity is the Antichrist. Christ came to destroy religion. After he left, they created a church that went against Christ....hence the church is the antichrist. In Hebrew numerology Christianity and Antichrist are EQUIVALENTS. Jesus fits the m.o. of the Antichrist as well. He performed miracles, most of the world follows him, he received a fatal wound to the head(Christ was crucified at a place called Golgotha, which means 'place of the skull'.) "Come away from her(the church); lest ye be judged as her."

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Romans 1: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

WRONG!! Men WITH men or women WITH women is AGAINST the natural way God created us, it is a CHOICE to be gay and it is a SIN to be gay! If you notice the verses closely, God GIVES them up to vile affections because obviously they want their sin more than God! Open your bible and read it my friend!

Your theory on the meaning of ' sexual immorality ' 2000years ago is quite an ASSUMPTION. Sounds like your talking your books, rather than objectively seeking and attemping to define facts.

What else would sexual immorality mean if not that? Jesus came to fulfill the scriptures, the Old Testament. He was the living manifestation of the Word - and the Old Testament clearly dictated that homosexuality was wrong. By deductive reasoning, you are allowed to assume that sexual immorality in this case means homosexuality, because adultery has already been differentiated, leaving what had previously been defined in the Old Testament as immoral sexual acts. When coupled with Jesus' affirmation of traditional marriage in the other passage I referenced, it becomes very clear what Jesus' stance on homosexuality really is.

Well, fornication and masturbation just to name two of several distinct possibilities. The whole crux of your statement falls apart on that basis. Maybe you should ask yourself what you are trying to do by starting a thread such as this. There are a whole host of ills in the world. Why should this issue deserve so much focus? (rhetorical)

Food for thought; the so often called 'abomination' is clearly described as man laying with another man as if they were a woman. For starters no one should be making any blanket arguments or condemnations that extend past the act itself.

The other thing I'd like to mention is all the holy rollers think they know why God would find such an act an a 'abomination' but do they have any real idea? They seem to completely ignore the fact eating pigs, shellfish, or rabbits are all considered abominations as well (BTW I'd wager most of them are inclined to eagerly gobble all three down when given a half a chance)

What is being overlooked here is that fundamentally these laws were set down to keep a primitive people relatively free from disease, blight, genetic mutation and social disorder. Personally I'm led to believe God's loathing of man on man sex mostly has to do with how scientifically unhealthy it is to go in the exit hole. The result is bound to be eventually a premature death.

I know this will likely just get ignored so carry on trying to remove the obvious motes from the eyes of others.

And hey, how are those bloody Visene cross drops doing on working out that plank?

Well, fornication and masturbation just to name two of several distinct possibilities. The whole crux of your statement falls apart on that basis. Maybe you should ask yourself what you are trying to do by starting a thread such as this. There are a whole host of ills in the world. Why should this issue deserve so much focus? (rhetorical)

Food for thought; the so often called 'abomination' is clearly described as man laying with another man as if they were a woman. For starters no one should be making any blanket arguments or condemnations that extend past the act itself.

The other thing I'd like to mention is all the holy rollers think they know why God would find such an act an a 'abomination' but do they have any real idea? They seem to completely ignore the fact eating pigs, shellfish, or rabbits are all considered abominations as well (BTW I'd wager most of them are inclined to eagerly gobble all three down when given a half a chance)

What is being overlooked here is that fundamentally these laws were set down to keep a primitive people relatively free from disease, blight, genetic mutation and social disorder. Personally I'm led to believe God's loathing of man on man sex mostly has to do with how scientifically unhealthy it is to go in the exit hole. The result is bound to be eventually a premature death.

I know this will likely just get ignored so carry on trying to remove the obvious motes from the eyes of others.

And hey, how are those bloody Visene cross drops doing on working out that plank?

Noah had relations with his son, isn't that both incest and homosexuality? And he was the only one saved.

Bring your proof to the table so I can call YOU a LIAR

Actually we are to:
1) love each other and
2) to love God


Its the SEX that is abnormal, NOT THE LOVE

Go INSIDE for the truth. The bible is only partially true. And a very small part of it at that. It was edited by TPTB hundreds of years ago. And many are still blindly following it. GO INSIDE your heart...

A choice to be gay, then that decision was made BEFORE conception allowing advancement on the soul level. Like taking an AP class in high school. You know its going to be tough going in and all during, but the rewards are worth it.

Stop with the fear mongering and love one another

Noah had relations with his son, isn't that both incest and homosexuality? And he was the only one saved.

Let's see what Gen. 9:18-27 tells us:


The sons of Noah who went forth from the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. (Ham was the father of Canaan.)
These three were the sons of Noah, and from these the people of the whole earth were dispersed.
Noah began to be a man of the soil, and he planted a vineyard.
He drank of the wine and became drunk and lay uncovered in his tent.
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his two brothers outside.
Then Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and walked backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned backward, and they did not see their father's nakedness.
When Noah awoke from his wine and knew what his youngest son had done to him,
he said, "Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be to his brothers."

Are you really that blind? Really?