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BREAKING!! Shocking New Sandy Hook Shooting Information

 
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Don't forget this woman who says she saw 8-10 kids running towards the firehouse. They would have been running after the front glass had been shot out since she mentions seeing the glass when she went up to the entrance of the school.

I still want to know how this woman and the other "parent," did not see the bodies of the principal and the other woman who were shot. Weren't they shot near the front of the school? This woman was standing right there, so how did she did not see the bodies?

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 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


oh no... we didnt forget Barbara Sibley

and her best witness done the 14th
[link to newsfeed.time.com]


so she see kids running.

silence (enough long to walk to the front door)

front glass shattered

gunshots

no 911 call because she hears sirens.
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Don't forget this woman who says she saw 8-10 kids running towards the firehouse. They would have been running after the front glass had been shot out since she mentions seeing the glass when she went up to the entrance of the school.

I still want to know how this woman and the other "parent," did not see the bodies of the principal and the other woman who were shot. Weren't they shot near the front of the school? This woman was standing right there, so how did she did not see the bodies?

[link to www.katiecouric.com]
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Also, would cops really close the doors of the suspect car? Wouldn't they leave it as is as evidence?
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Exactly, considering all 4(I think, I haven't watched it in a while) doors were open according to that woman. It the helicopter video posted earlier in here, it almost looks like they even removed some of the "sweatshirts" she described. I don't get why there was so little action around the car, especially so early on. You'd think they'd be going over it inch by inch.

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Don't forget this woman who says she saw 8-10 kids running towards the firehouse. They would have been running after the front glass had been shot out since she mentions seeing the glass when she went up to the entrance of the school.

I still want to know how this woman and the other "parent," did not see the bodies of the principal and the other woman who were shot. Weren't they shot near the front of the school? This woman was standing right there, so how did she did not see the bodies?

[link to www.katiecouric.com]
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Also, would cops really close the doors of the suspect car? Wouldn't they leave it as is as evidence?
 Quoting: Stickywicket


Exactly, considering all 4(I think, I haven't watched it in a while) doors were open according to that woman. It the helicopter video posted earlier in here, it almost looks like they even removed some of the "sweatshirts" she described. I don't get why there was so little action around the car, especially so early on. You'd think they'd be going over it inch by inch.
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Another thing to is: didn't the escaping kids from Soto's room witness the shooting of the other kids and Soto? If that's true, how could they have been running down the road away from the school so soon? From what I understand, Soto's room was the last place Lanza was shooting.
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Don't forget this woman who says she saw 8-10 kids running towards the firehouse. They would have been running after the front glass had been shot out since she mentions seeing the glass when she went up to the entrance of the school.

I still want to know how this woman and the other "parent," did not see the bodies of the principal and the other woman who were shot. Weren't they shot near the front of the school? This woman was standing right there, so how did she did not see the bodies?

[link to www.katiecouric.com]
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


oh no... we didnt forget Barbara Sibley

and her best witness done the 14th
[link to newsfeed.time.com]


so she see kids running.

silence (enough long to walk to the front door)

front glass shattered

gunshots

no 911 call because she hears sirens.
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Fred, do you still have those 2 pictures of the front windows of the school? I know its off-topic on this thread, but could you maybe post them to check for bullet holes?
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Back to the emergency response part of the discussion:

I found this interview of a woman who says she saw first responders en route to the school. She mentions they stop at a traffic light along the way. Couldn't embed for some reason.

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There is one more possibility to explain the numbers, but it too opens up a can of worms... my initial fact checking came up with 10 kids short of the official enrollment record. I thought because of the fact there were six classes the previous year that Rousseau, did in fact have her own class. Since she was not listed I then looked to see who she had to be subbing for leading to D'Amato.

However, (opening up the big worm can) if the five victims in Soto's class are moved over to Rousseau plus the ten missing that is fifteen kids. Amazingly, the only casualty in Soto's class is Soto herself. This means D'Amato was there as well.... still having the highest number of deaths... but maybe this is where the real lies were started by the state police? Did they purposely misinform the public about where these kids were killed?

Kazlouskas all 15 safe.
Monahan all 16 safe.
Roig all 16 safe.
Soto all 16 safe... but she died. (remove two kids from rosen's story and back to correct number of angels.)
D'Amato 15 dead only one survivor(16).
Rousseau five dead ten survivors(15).

This is 94 kids.. and the enrollment records all match.

The worm can is open... Rousseau was first reported as "they did not know how or where she died..." which struck me as stupendously stupid, she is in a classroom shot to death... her car is shot up... no factual schematics of inside the school showing the actual layout of class rooms.. room nine for example... this was purposeful and deceptive. But why?

Was D'Amato the main target of the very angry man? Did they allow the second shooter to go free then realizing their mistake mis-report or simply proceed to concocting a cover story that severely mangled the facts and forced parents to fudge their accounts?

The Newtown Bee report featuring Dawn, very much alive simply adds to the murky depths.
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That's an interesting theory. Maybe D'Amato was the unnamed adult who was injured?
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There's still also the mystery of the 19 victims in the kitchen closet.
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This woman mentions seeing a black car pulling up to the school, boys running and screaming, and the police department (6-8 cars) going up to the school. She says that about 45 seconds later she heard the gunshots.

So before shots were heard, the cops were already on the way to the school? The shots she heard would have had to have been "Adam" shooting the door of the school, assuming the black car she was referring to was his. If you put all of these people's stories together, none of this could possibly add up.


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This woman mentions seeing a black car pulling up to the school, boys running and screaming, and the police department (6-8 cars) going up to the school. She says that about 45 seconds later she heard the gunshots.

So before shots were heard, the cops were already on the way to the school? The shots she heard would have had to have been "Adam" shooting the door of the school, assuming the black car she was referring to was his. If you put all of these people's stories together, none of this could possibly add up.


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If she's hearing shots, how come the fire chief isn't hearing them?

Example of what AR 15 fire sounds like:

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That's an interesting theory. Maybe D'Amato was the unnamed adult who was injured?
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i think the unnamed injured was journalists mistake counting 2 time Hammond.

Police says 3. 2 kids and 1 adult (Hammond).
Hospital says 3.
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That's an interesting theory. Maybe D'Amato was the unnamed adult who was injured?
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i think the unnamed injured was journalists mistake counting 2 time Hammond.

Police says 3. 2 kids and 1 adult (Hammond).
Hospital says 3.
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Who are the two kids? One is the one carried out by Chapman who later died.

Who's the other one?

If it's two adults, it's Hammond and another one. Who would that be?

We're a person short.
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This woman mentions seeing a black car pulling up to the school, boys running and screaming, and the police department (6-8 cars) going up to the school. She says that about 45 seconds later she heard the gunshots.

So before shots were heard, the cops were already on the way to the school? The shots she heard would have had to have been "Adam" shooting the door of the school, assuming the black car she was referring to was his. If you put all of these people's stories together, none of this could possibly add up.

...
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


yes, this witness is interesting.
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if she see only 2, maybe one parent was just arring in the parking lot when Adam started to shot the front glass.

And they were not in the school.

This witness never was in media.

and it could explain the shots in the parking lot.


Adam shot the frontglass, see parent arriving with 2 kids in the parking lot, shots to them... they escape.

no?
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That's an interesting theory. Maybe D'Amato was the unnamed adult who was injured?
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i think the unnamed injured was journalists mistake counting 2 time Hammond.

Police says 3. 2 kids and 1 adult (Hammond).
Hospital says 3.
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Who are the two kids? One is the one carried out by Chapman who later died.

Who's the other one?

If it's two adults, it's Hammond and another one. Who would that be?

We're a person short.
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yes, that's the strange point, in cops witnesses, only 1 kid has "life sign".

I've read stories about Olivia Engel, that officer telling her "we love you..."

but didnt have time to investigate...


[link to www.newstimes.com]


A lone state trooper stood at attention beside the closed, white coffin in the sanctuary as Monsignor Robert Weiss returned to Olivia's last moments. He recalled that a Newtown police officer bent down to the dying girl, held her in his arms and said "I love you."

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Back to the emergency response part of the discussion:

I found this interview of a woman who says she saw first responders en route to the school. She mentions they stop at a traffic light along the way. Couldn't embed for some reason.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Gladio


good job again, Gladio!

good information.

i am sure the cops failed... that's why they wont give the 911 call. And that in the radio recording, the dispatcher says:
"yes or no, front glass has been broken [unintelligible]. They’re unsure why.”

it really doesnt smell like emergency...
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but why... and Rousseau started 1 month before... then was hired permanent?

And Murphy and D'avino, teacher aide?
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One of the early articles reported that Dawn knew Rousseau for quite some time, that she found an opening for her... it is quite possible an arrangement was made but never quite made it to the official book yet... Murphy may have well been in D'Amato's class and D'avino in Rousseau's that morning... it is not clear if they are permanently assigned to a specific class or simply help the students who need them during the course of the day.

A simple matter of editing "accounts" from eye-witnesses by the top media may also explain minor inconsistencies which arose as the narrative morphed from the initial incident into the politically charged snowball....

The lack of a "motive" for Adam, who was characterized as a satanic worshiper, whipped up the media frenzy, is still a major question, not answered. The page he supposedly had can be explained by his using a nickname as in [red letters] devil which his buddy did not get... teenage humor so that was a dead end... on the other-hand going into a school to murder staff and children, after killing your own mom is serious, hard-core psychopathic evil, unless he is malnourished, drugged and unable to discern reality... he may well be the primary shooter, but actual eye-witness accounts are missing something very important--- why no police sketches, who could forget the angry face of such a hard-core, child killer? The only description given was his weight plus possible clothing. One witness account to another still yields very little visual confirmation of who was shouting or shooting and perhaps at the same time.

Maybe this is why Mr. Manfredonia would be a key witness. He was right there in the hallway.... he might have seen both gunman in action. Perhaps this is why D'Amato is refusing to say anything on the record... did she see the gunman as he went into her un-locked room before she could do anything? That would be quite horrific.


I do not think adam lanza could pull this incident off by himself... too feeble if the weight reports are true... the original story had him recognized and buzzed in... none of the witnesses including the first responders said a word about shell casings by the front entrance windows, just the glass blown out. The camera is right there in plain site in many of the over-head pics. Camera is on that pole with the metal-flap. If state police are with-holding evidence to protect witnesses from the still free accomplice it is a guessing game with several major pieces missing.
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but why... and Rousseau started 1 month before... then was hired permanent?

And Murphy and D'avino, teacher aide?
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One of the early articles reported that Dawn knew Rousseau for quite some time, that she found an opening for her... it is quite possible an arrangement was made but never quite made it to the official book yet... Murphy may have well been in D'Amato's class and D'avino in Rousseau's that morning... it is not clear if they are permanently assigned to a specific class or simply help the students who need them during the course of the day.

...
 Quoting: Ghost Avatar 241180


no, it was reported Murphy was in Soto classroom.

so D'avino was in Rousseau classroom.

now, it doesnt look logic or clever to put two new teachers in the same class.

for the "why" Adam did it, we will have time later. Now it is time for the "what", "how", "when"... and maybe the "who"
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Going with the 6 teacher theory....

It's possible that Rousseau is the teacher who said "they're in the gym," and she was then killed, but no kids from her class were shot.... And that story somehow got transferred onto Soto.
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but why... and Rousseau started 1 month before... then was hired permanent?

And Murphy and D'avino, teacher aide?
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One of the early articles reported that Dawn knew Rousseau for quite some time, that she found an opening for her... it is quite possible an arrangement was made but never quite made it to the official book yet... Murphy may have well been in D'Amato's class and D'avino in Rousseau's that morning... it is not clear if they are permanently assigned to a specific class or simply help the students who need them during the course of the day.

A simple matter of editing "accounts" from eye-witnesses by the top media may also explain minor inconsistencies which arose as the narrative morphed from the initial incident into the politically charged snowball....

The lack of a "motive" for Adam, who was characterized as a satanic worshiper, whipped up the media frenzy, is still a major question, not answered. The page he supposedly had can be explained by his using a nickname as in [red letters] devil which his buddy did not get... teenage humor so that was a dead end... on the other-hand going into a school to murder staff and children, after killing your own mom is serious, hard-core psychopathic evil, unless he is malnourished, drugged and unable to discern reality... he may well be the primary shooter, but actual eye-witness accounts are missing something very important--- why no police sketches, who could forget the angry face of such a hard-core, child killer? The only description given was his weight plus possible clothing. One witness account to another still yields very little visual confirmation of who was shouting or shooting and perhaps at the same time.

Maybe this is why Mr. Manfredonia would be a key witness. He was right there in the hallway.... he might have seen both gunman in action. Perhaps this is why D'Amato is refusing to say anything on the record... did she see the gunman as he went into her un-locked room before she could do anything? That would be quite horrific.


I do not think adam lanza could pull this incident off by himself... too feeble if the weight reports are true... the original story had him recognized and buzzed in... none of the witnesses including the first responders said a word about shell casings by the front entrance windows, just the glass blown out. The camera is right there in plain site in many of the over-head pics. Camera is on that pole with the metal-flap. If state police are with-holding evidence to protect witnesses from the still free accomplice it is a guessing game with several major pieces missing.
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I'm starting to lean very heavily to the Scott Vollmer connection. His mother's a kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook. Perhaps the VERY initial reports were somewhat accurate. That story (about "Adam's mother being a teacher at the school) got dropped faster than a hot potato. Why? I don't think it's a coincidence, and I don't think it was a mistake. Unless Scott Vollmer looks like the identical twin of Adam Lanza, why would the nurse mention the shooter's mother being a kindergarten teacher? Didn't reports from that nurse also initially say she looked the shooter right in the eyes? That, of course, was also quickly taken out of her story.
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I'm starting to lean very heavily to the Scott Vollmer connection. His mother's a kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook. Perhaps the VERY initial reports were somewhat accurate. That story (about "Adam's mother being a teacher at the school) got dropped faster than a hot potato. Why? I don't think it's a coincidence, and I don't think it was a mistake. Unless Scott Vollmer looks like the identical twin of Adam Lanza, why would the nurse mention the shooter's mother being a kindergarten teacher? Didn't reports from that nurse also initially say she looked the shooter right in the eyes? That, of course, was also quickly taken out of her story.
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feel free to investigate.
for me the only link is Janet Vollmer -> mother of -> Scott Vollmer -> working for Bloomberg.

if you find another link...

but why so much bumpers, promoters and so few believers for this Vollmer theory?

For nurse Cox/McCarren
Thread: Andrea McCarren CAN BLOW SANDY HOOK OPEN. INSTEAD SHE SHITS ON WE THE PEOPLE

i think it's clear.
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About disinformation shills like norris and others above:


Truthers, conspiracy theorists, and anyone generally not happy with the way things are going with the country's gov and looking for answers need to be very cautious about what they believe...

There is an insidious disinformation campaign waiting in ambush for them ...




There are bastardly disinformation agents intentionally muddying the waters of knowledge with false conspiracy theories and other false information of all kinds.

It infiltrates everywhere people are discussing matters of truth and problems plagueing America. It is a web of deceit that destroys truth.


The disinformation campaign needs to be exposed, outed, and stopped before anything else can go forward.

For example, when youve got a very large crowd of guys that gets together about ongoing gun control matters recently, and one of the prominent claims thrown out was that Adam Lanza didnt even use the AR-15, well youve already lost the battle. It makes everything else theyve got to say as something coming from either a nutcase or someone who lacks the intelligence to have a rational discussion. These guys are focusing on the disinfo that they naively believe instead of real issues. Its pure fail. They have fallen into a trap laid for them and they dont have the slightest clue of that fact.


The disinformation campaign needs to be exposed, outed, and stopped before anything else can go forward. There is a war that has already begun, but that few citizens even know about. This is a battle to cloud minds and facts and reality. Without any large scale understanding of the disinfo campaign, any sort of real change in this country can not and will not happen. Period.
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please help
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Why are so few people recognizing and exposing the people who knowingly post false information for ulterior reasons?


The people pushing the false info and also fighting those like myself who bring truth against their false info are the 'shills.'



Ask yourselves why people knowingly push all sorts of false info and also fight against anyone exposing the info as false, and then continue elsewhere to repeat the false info. Its downright criminal IMO.
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I'm starting to lean very heavily to the Scott Vollmer connection. His mother's a kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook. Perhaps the VERY initial reports were somewhat accurate. That story (about "Adam's mother being a teacher at the school) got dropped faster than a hot potato. Why? I don't think it's a coincidence, and I don't think it was a mistake. Unless Scott Vollmer looks like the identical twin of Adam Lanza, why would the nurse mention the shooter's mother being a kindergarten teacher? Didn't reports from that nurse also initially say she looked the shooter right in the eyes? That, of course, was also quickly taken out of her story.
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feel free to investigate.
for me the only link is Janet Vollmer -> mother of -> Scott Vollmer -> working for Bloomberg.

if you find another link...

but why so much bumpers, promoters and so few believers for this Vollmer theory?

For nurse Cox/McCarren
Thread: Andrea McCarren CAN BLOW SANDY HOOK OPEN. INSTEAD SHE SHITS ON WE THE PEOPLE

i think it's clear.
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Thanks for the link. I agree, firsthand accounts are always the better choice. Did this reporter make up the entire story about the shooter being the mother of a kindergarten teacher? Or was that already put out there by the media by that time?

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Thanks for the link. I agree, firsthand accounts are always the better choice. Did this reporter make up the entire story about the shooter being the mother of a kindergarten teacher? Or was that already put out there by the media by that time?
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no..no.. Janet Vollmer is really the mother of Scott Vollmer. A guy working for Bloomberg.
But that's all.
no more suspect connection or link.

I am "open minded", but on the 5 or 6 threads about it, i dont see any source or reference...
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About disinformation shills like norris and others above:


Truthers, conspiracy theorists, and anyone generally not happy with the way things are going with the country's gov and looking for answers need to be very cautious about what they believe...

There is an insidious disinformation campaign waiting in ambush for them ...




There are bastardly disinformation agents intentionally muddying the waters of knowledge with false conspiracy theories and other false information of all kinds.

It infiltrates everywhere people are discussing matters of truth and problems plagueing America. It is a web of deceit that destroys truth.


The disinformation campaign needs to be exposed, outed, and stopped before anything else can go forward.

For example, when youve got a very large crowd of guys that gets together about ongoing gun control matters recently, and one of the prominent claims thrown out was that Adam Lanza didnt even use the AR-15, well youve already lost the battle. It makes everything else theyve got to say as something coming from either a nutcase or someone who lacks the intelligence to have a rational discussion. These guys are focusing on the disinfo that they naively believe instead of real issues. Its pure fail. They have fallen into a trap laid for them and they dont have the slightest clue of that fact.


The disinformation campaign needs to be exposed, outed, and stopped before anything else can go forward. There is a war that has already begun, but that few citizens even know about. This is a battle to cloud minds and facts and reality. Without any large scale understanding of the disinfo campaign, any sort of real change in this country can not and will not happen. Period.
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please help
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Yes, I agree that there is probably a disinfo campaign taking place here, but I'm not sure if it's such a good idea to have disinfo agents and/or their employers royally pissed off at me. YKWIM?
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Why are so few people recognizing and exposing the people who knowingly post false information for ulterior reasons?


The people pushing the false info and also fighting those like myself who bring truth against their false info are the 'shills.'



Ask yourselves why people knowingly push all sorts of false info and also fight against anyone exposing the info as false, and then continue elsewhere to repeat the false info. Its downright criminal IMO.
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Look at this effin dumbass!

A Shill proclaiming *himself* to be the real truth seeker....Dont listen to anyone else but him, he is the "real" truth seeker.

Pathetic. I spit on Shills.shill973
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I wanna be a shill but some how this never happened, no one was killed and the whole thing is a movie made for tv. So I guess I fail at being a shill knowing this never happened as they made for tv want us to believe.
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everybody who flood this post with subject not linked to Sandy Hook is suspect!

if you want to speak about shill. Open a thread on it.


now back to subject...
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here is Janet Vollmer snapshot in Newtownbee

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Family: I've been married to Bill for 38 years. He just recently retired from AT&T. We have two boys. Eric is 30, a graduate of Newtown schools and a graduate of Keene State College. He is living in Westchester and has his own landscaping business, and works for the town of Eastchester, too. Scott is 27, also a Newtown graduate and a graduate of Johnson State College in Vermont. He lives in Hoboken, N.J., and works in Manhattan for Compass Group as director of events for Bloomberg Media.
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Unless Scott Vollmer looks like the identical twin of Adam Lanza, why would the nurse mention the shooter's mother being a kindergarten teacher? Didn't reports from that nurse also initially say she looked the shooter right in the eyes? That, of course, was also quickly taken out of her story.
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Yes, the initial story was Ryan was the shooter, he killed his Mom at the school, killed his Dad back in NJ and the brother was caught in the woods. They had the entire family involved with very few supporting facts... oddly enough it was a friend of Ryan who was credited with identifying Adam not the state police... the nurse identifying Nancy as a k-teacher, is quite bizarre and the even more odd fact, she was identified as dead in the classroom by the media... long before she was found dead at her home officially by the police, which is a major red flag.... plus the other dead bodies which were then dropped from the news.

Due to the cold-hard fact not a single real piece of evidence of what occurred inside the classrooms has been released, it is pure conjecture(based on what is available) as to who was where, when and why. If they can lie about Nancy dead on a classroom floor with a straight face they could lie about anything... by pure hard-core rules of evidence Adam Lanza was never in that school at all.

If his Mom was not there neither was he... not his car... not his ID... not his guns... not his kid at school making G-bread houses... by the very same hard-core rules of evidence the entire official story goes poof into a cloud of hoax-dark smoke... if the nurse lied about Nancy then she lied about the shooter... the litmus test for proof cannot be met with hearsay no matter how good it sounds to explain events.

I put the blame squarely on the state police for turning this entire incident into a political football for the FED's to play with and thus peoples lives are hanging in the balance.
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Unless Scott Vollmer looks like the identical twin of Adam Lanza, why would the nurse mention the shooter's mother being a kindergarten teacher? Didn't reports from that nurse also initially say she looked the shooter right in the eyes? That, of course, was also quickly taken out of her story.
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Yes, the initial story was Ryan was the shooter, he killed his Mom at the school, killed his Dad back in NJ and the brother was caught in the woods. They had the entire family involved with very few supporting facts... oddly enough it was a friend of Ryan who was credited with identifying Adam not the state police... the nurse identifying Nancy as a k-teacher, is quite bizarre and the even more odd fact, she was identified as dead in the classroom by the media... long before she was found dead at her home officially by the police, which is a major red flag.... plus the other dead bodies which were then dropped from the news.

Due to the cold-hard fact not a single real piece of evidence of what occurred inside the classrooms has been released, it is pure conjecture(based on what is available) as to who was where, when and why. If they can lie about Nancy dead on a classroom floor with a straight face they could lie about anything... by pure hard-core rules of evidence Adam Lanza was never in that school at all.

If his Mom was not there neither was he... not his car... not his ID... not his guns... not his kid at school making G-bread houses... by the very same hard-core rules of evidence the entire official story goes poof into a cloud of hoax-dark smoke... if the nurse lied about Nancy then she lied about the shooter... the litmus test for proof cannot be met with hearsay no matter how good it sounds to explain events.

I put the blame squarely on the state police for turning this entire incident into a political football for the FED's to play with and thus peoples lives are hanging in the balance.
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everybody who flood this post with subject not linked to Sandy Hook is suspect!

if you want to speak about shill. Open a thread on it.


now back to subject...
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here is Janet Vollmer snapshot in Newtownbee

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Family: I've been married to Bill for 38 years. He just recently retired from AT&T. We have two boys. Eric is 30, a graduate of Newtown schools and a graduate of Keene State College. He is living in Westchester and has his own landscaping business, and works for the town of Eastchester, too. Scott is 27, also a Newtown graduate and a graduate of Johnson State College in Vermont. He lives in Hoboken, N.J., and works in Manhattan for Compass Group as director of events for Bloomberg Media.
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Hey newguy, before you go inferring I am a shill, do some reading:
Thread: The Newtown Massace...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST (add to it)


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