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BREAKING!! Shocking New Sandy Hook Shooting Information

 
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This is also a classic.

Rare Footage Of Sandy Hook Victim Being Rolled Half A Mile To The Firehouse In Stretcher

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Here's what looks like the victim they put in the ambulance by the firehouse later


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no.. this is a lot later.

Bill was nearly the first in place.

For example the firetruck was in the school parking lot before the cops.


btw: someone could explain me what this video must/want to show?

i see only the same scene shot by different camera.
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First I do not think it went down exactly as played out in the media.

If everyone was shot multiple times like the M.E. stated they were dead and bled out. No amount of CPR would be of any good. Surely there were some just wounded but I don't recall seeing any footage or pictures that seemed real.

I doubt that Adam had a 100% kill rate of everyone he is said to have shot.

So the first part of this video I watched is not very supportive towards the whole hoax thing. IMO>..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1508876


Maybe they will resurrect some of the victims and say they just reported them dead for privacy reasons. So the news wouldn't hassle them. Then it would take some heat off coming from everybody calling on em to prove it wasn't a complete hoax.
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I heard they were professionally executed with shots to the head. That would explain no need for CPR.
 Quoting: Anonymous 843492


You really think in his rush of terror, and in that short amount of time, that he was able to aim and shoot every single person in the head? Children, who were most likely squished together and on top of each other, all perfectly shot in the head. Doesn't seem logical to me.
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plus children all squished together would prevent the bullets from reaching kids behind other kids...cant be done with that bullet....
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no.. this is a lot later.

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i speak about this video
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This is also a classic.

Rare Footage Of Sandy Hook Victim Being Rolled Half A Mile To The Firehouse In Stretcher

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9916572


safety first! what fucking joke..Everyone needs to look up Mike Powers on Sandy Hook...he explains all pretty good
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People still think this was a hoax?

damned
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Here's what looks like the victim they put in the ambulance by the firehouse later


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9916572


no.. this is a lot later.

Bill was nearly the first in place.

For example the firetruck was in the school parking lot before the cops.


btw: someone could explain me what this video must/want to show?

i see only the same scene shot by different camera.
 Quoting: Fred 32225240


Yeah sure. It's two different scenes separated by a matter of hours. Its a little odd that they have her outside in the cold for a few hours with a supposed gunshot wound to the leg from an AR15.

The aerial shot from overhead is more than likely the rehearsal for the other close up shot of her sitting in a chair then put into the ambulance.

The timeline is what needs to be figured out.
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People still think this was a hoax?

damned
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


people still think it wasnt?
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People still think this was a hoax?

damned
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


No they pretty much know it now. At least partial hoax, but I want proof its not a full hoax now too, just for shits and gigs
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People still think this was a hoax?

damned
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


people still think it wasnt?
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
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People still think this was a hoax?

damned
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


people still think it wasnt?
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


i agree,but theres to many facts in the truth of this for something not to be up
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personally i think these theories that it was a hoax and the children were not shot multiple times at point blank range with a high-powered rifle are spread to maintain a fantasy that the secret group behind these school shootings isn't really that evil … they are our shadow govt, i suppose.

like 9/11, aren't there theories that 3,000 people weren't really murdered on that day ?

even among the lower ranking secret society members who are part of this, they want to allow these lower level perps the fantasy escape, the rationalization, that maybe the brutal murder of these children didn't really happen

but you can be sure, they did murder those children otherwise there would be smoking gun evidence, the lack of the bodies, and they wouldn't take the chance of being exposed by its discovery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16097318


What do you mean?

There were no bodies that anyone ever saw. None of the children have been clearly shown to be actual people with those names. We have many examples of children, supposedly killed there, who provably never existed. (Sandy Previdi's lovely daughter, except that Sandy Previdi didn't exist -- for example.)

And indeed "they" have been exposed massively. Huge embarrassment for the plotters. They're so angry about it they want Facebook to delete the evidence posted there.
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The aerial shot from overhead is more than likely the rehearsal for the other close up shot of her sitting in a chair then put into the ambulance.

The timeline is what needs to be figured out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9916572


why rehearsal, the videos are not timed.

Media arrive late on scene. desperate to show some action.

An old lady feels bad because too much stress, too much emotion... EMT were waiting for action too, so they took care of this old lady.


it's what is see...
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People still think this was a hoax?

damned
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


people still think it wasnt?
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


i agree,but theres to many facts in the truth of this for something not to be up
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


Not really, if you take any shooting, any disaster, this day in age with cable news battling each other for ratings, the speed info can get out, the amounts of camera's people have, social media outlets, I can make a youtube video that can make it look like a hoax.

Sometimes we have to step back and analyze the info from a different perspective to really see the big picture.
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People still think this was a hoax?

damned
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


people still think it wasnt?
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


i agree,but theres to many facts in the truth of this for something not to be up
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


Like what 'facts?'
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The aerial shot from overhead is more than likely the rehearsal for the other close up shot of her sitting in a chair then put into the ambulance.

The timeline is what needs to be figured out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9916572


why rehearsal, the videos are not timed.

Media arrive late on scene. desperate to show some action.

An old lady feels bad because too much stress, too much emotion... EMT were waiting for action too, so they took care of this old lady.


it's what is see...
 Quoting: Fred 32225240


actually media was there fast
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people still think it wasnt?
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


i agree,but theres to many facts in the truth of this for something not to be up
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


Not really, if you take any shooting, any disaster, this day in age with cable news battling each other for ratings, the speed info can get out, the amounts of camera's people have, social media outlets, I can make a youtube video that can make it look like a hoax.

Sometimes we have to step back and analyze the info from a different perspective to really see the big picture.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


not talking media

have you not listened to scanner?whole thing from start to end of that day?out of the peoples mouths on scene?
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If I were a parent of one of these children, I sure as hell

would want these questions answered. Interesting how you do

not see any of these parents raising hell about this.
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones


This is the biggest issue, that I think we need to be sharing with the asleep sheeple, aka our friends, relatives, coworkers, neighbors, etc.

Ask them: If your child was one of the victims, and you knew that not one single EMT was allowed into the building, and that not even one miniscule attempt at saving your child's life was made...how would you feel? Would you not *then* sue the school board, the state of CT, the State Troopers, etc.?
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People still think this was a hoax?

damned
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


people still think it wasnt?
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


And I guarantee you that if this did not happen at a school and children were not involved, people would be more open to being suspicious. People don't want to believe this is a hoax or not on the up and up. I know that I, initially, felt guilt for questioning anything about it...because children were involved. I don't want to believe that people in powerful positions would purposely do this, but, I can't deny my common sense, hard as I have tried. The fact that they claim Adam had Asperger's and did something like this is enough to make me doubt the entire thing.

The only reason, in my opinion, that more people aren't "suspicious" is simply because of the children.

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The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


i agree,but theres to many facts in the truth of this for something not to be up
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


Not really, if you take any shooting, any disaster, this day in age with cable news battling each other for ratings, the speed info can get out, the amounts of camera's people have, social media outlets, I can make a youtube video that can make it look like a hoax.

Sometimes we have to step back and analyze the info from a different perspective to really see the big picture.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


not talking media

have you not listened to scanner?whole thing from start to end of that day?out of the peoples mouths on scene?
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


I have, I have seen all the youtube vids too...well not all I watched a bunch. I checked it out. The situation being a hoax is faar less likely than it being a random act.

I like to look at all the evidence on both sides, then play the "what's more likely" game.

JMO
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People still think this was a hoax?

damned
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


people still think it wasnt?
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


And I guarantee you that if this did not happen at a school and children were not involved, people would be more open to being suspicious. People don't want to believe this is a hoax or not on the up and up. I know that I, initially, felt guilt for questioning anything about it...because children were involved. I don't want to believe that people in powerful positions would purposely do this, but, I can't deny my common sense, hard as I have tried.

The only reason, in my opinion, that more people aren't "suspicious" is simply because of the children.
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Naw, more children died on 9-11, people have no problem looking at that as a conspiracy.
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people still think it wasnt?
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


i agree,but theres to many facts in the truth of this for something not to be up
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


Like what 'facts?'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973


scanner? live video of NO emergency on site? like said over and over,anyone knows that few cops first on scene would not know that fast that 26humans were dead...and even if someones presumed dead on arrival,theyre still going to try to revive them...unless obvious that time has passed or dismembered.

So if the whole "real" story is true....the shooting just happened..and shooter was dead...so you then,would send every motherfucking emt or anyone in there loading those kids up and trying to save their fucking life!!! No way checked all vitals and knew every single person was non-revivable...thats an insult to intelligence...idk what happened but the "STORY" we're being told is not the truth....and if it was true,every single person involved in that should be fired and charged with neglect and obstruction to justice,for not allowing medical personel to do their job. Like I said NO WAY a few officers checked vitals of everyone...and if they did wait for few officers to check vitals,maybe some were alive and died because werent giving the opportunity to be saved? It just defies all logical explanation

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actually media was there fast
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what you call fast? 1:30... 2.. hours after action?
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people still think it wasnt?
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


And I guarantee you that if this did not happen at a school and children were not involved, people would be more open to being suspicious. People don't want to believe this is a hoax or not on the up and up. I know that I, initially, felt guilt for questioning anything about it...because children were involved. I don't want to believe that people in powerful positions would purposely do this, but, I can't deny my common sense, hard as I have tried.

The only reason, in my opinion, that more people aren't "suspicious" is simply because of the children.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


Naw, more children died on 9-11, people have no problem looking at that as a conspiracy.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


I had to Google as I didn't really recall hearing of many deaths of children during 9/11. What I found just now was that 8 children died. And it's a completely different scenario when classrooms of children are shot. When you hear a lot of people claim that SH is not a hoax, one of the first things they mention is having respect for the children so it clearly does impact whether they question anything or not.
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I heard they were professionally executed with shots to the head. That would explain no need for CPR.
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Unless every single victim was decapitated, CPR should have been attempted, by multiple EMT's.
 Quoting: Gladio


CPR is often not performed on gunshot wound victims who have been pulseless and who's trauma is not consistent with resuscitation.
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actually media was there fast
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


what you call fast? 1:30... 2.. hours after action?
 Quoting: Fred 32225240


no live in helicopter watching police chase someone and everybody walking around like no big deal minutes after it "happened"
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I heard they were professionally executed with shots to the head. That would explain no need for CPR.
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Unless every single victim was decapitated, CPR should have been attempted, by multiple EMT's.
 Quoting: Gladio


CPR is often not performed on gunshot wound victims who have been pulseless and who's trauma is not consistent with resuscitation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973


answer this??? why the fuck would you take time to check all pulses??? Theyre little kids...you would be doing that on way to ambulance or hospital
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The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


i agree,but theres to many facts in the truth of this for something not to be up
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


Like what 'facts?'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973


scanner? live video of NO emergency on site? like said over and over,anyone knows that few cops first on scene would not know that fast that 26humans were dead...and even if someones presumed dead on arrival,theyre still going to try to revive them...unless obvious that time has passed or dismembered.

So if the whole "real" story is true....the shooting just happened..and shooter was dead...so you then,would send every motherfucking emt or anyone in there loading those kids up and trying to save their fucking life!!! No way checked all vitals and knew every single person was non-revivable...thats an insult to intelligence...idk what happened but the "STORY" we're being told is not the truth....and if it was true,every single person involved in that should be fired and charged with neglect and obstruction to justice,for not allowing medical personel to do their job. Like I said NO WAY a few officers checked vitals of everyone...and if they did wait for few officers to check vitals,maybe some were alive and died because werent giving the opportunity to be saved? It just defies all logical explanation
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


Youre having a real hard time understanding how things work in the real world.

theyre still going to try to revive them
- false

you then,would send every motherfucking emt or anyone in there loading those kids up and trying to save their fucking life!!!
- incorrect

thats an insult to intelligence
- The ONLY thing that has insulted your intelligence in this thread are you very own comments showing your lack of understanding combimned with your stubbornness to even try to understand.
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people still think it wasnt?
 Quoting: DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978


The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


And I guarantee you that if this did not happen at a school and children were not involved, people would be more open to being suspicious. People don't want to believe this is a hoax or not on the up and up. I know that I, initially, felt guilt for questioning anything about it...because children were involved. I don't want to believe that people in powerful positions would purposely do this, but, I can't deny my common sense, hard as I have tried.

The only reason, in my opinion, that more people aren't "suspicious" is simply because of the children.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


Naw, more children died on 9-11, people have no problem looking at that as a conspiracy.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


Yes we know people died. I watched on TV as men jumped to their deaths, I actually talked to families who had lost fathers and other family members there.

When a bunch of people die, there's usually no question about it. Whether you believe it was a conspiracy or you actually swallowed the boxcutter story, there's no doubt that real people actually died in that event.

Sandy Hook is very weird, it's not clear that anyone died.

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