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BREAKING!! Shocking New Sandy Hook Shooting Information

 
*Rick Grimes*

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In Dunblane massacre I believe the children who were killed were not rushed to hospital either and it took several hours to identify and inform parents of children who died.

I've been searching ..found this

Hamilton entered the school and made his way to the gymnasium where he opened fire on a class of five- and six-year-olds, killing or wounding all but one person. Fifteen children died together with their class teacher, Gwen Mayor, who was killed trying to protect the children.
Hamilton then left the gymnasium and shot into a mobile classroom, where children were hiding under tables. Hamilton then shot at children in the corridor, injuring a teacher.
He then returned to the gym and killed himself.
Eleven children and three adults were rushed to the hospital. Another child was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital.


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

I remember watching footage that day and do not remember seeing any bodies being shown on news footage being removed from school or injured children being put in to ambulances. Footage was mainly of parents waiting for news and their children...pretty similar to to Sandy Hook really. There are quite a few you tube videos about massacre showing news footage of that day...look and compare yourselves.

I'm not trying to prove or disprove hoax theory but as an adult who remembers this incident I keep thinking...well it was pretty much the same for that incident. I have no idea how long it was before their bodies were removed but I do not think they were all rushed to hospital and they became part of a crime scene for awhile.
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Yup good points. That's what I mean, be objective.

Well said
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In Dunblane massacre I believe the children who were killed were not rushed to hospital either and it took several hours to identify and inform parents of children who died.

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 Quoting: pinkpixiexx


it exists also theory about Dunblane that talk about hoax.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Andy Murray (the tennis player) didnt even remember this.
and he was in the class.

so i dont know if it's a good example to compare with.

The best to compare is Columbine.
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]


and it really dont look like Sandy Hook.
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In Dunblane massacre I believe the children who were killed were not rushed to hospital either and it took several hours to identify and inform parents of children who died.

I've been searching ..found this

Hamilton entered the school and made his way to the gymnasium where he opened fire on a class of five- and six-year-olds, killing or wounding all but one person. Fifteen children died together with their class teacher, Gwen Mayor, who was killed trying to protect the children.
Hamilton then left the gymnasium and shot into a mobile classroom, where children were hiding under tables. Hamilton then shot at children in the corridor, injuring a teacher.
He then returned to the gym and killed himself.
Eleven children and three adults were rushed to the hospital. Another child was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital.


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

I remember watching footage that day and do not remember seeing any bodies being shown on news footage being removed from school or injured children being put in to ambulances. Footage was mainly of parents waiting for news and their children...pretty similar to to Sandy Hook really. There are quite a few you tube videos about massacre showing news footage of that day...look and compare yourselves.

I'm not trying to prove or disprove hoax theory but as an adult who remembers this incident I keep thinking...well it was pretty much the same for that incident. I have no idea how long it was before their bodies were removed but I do not think they were all rushed to hospital and they became part of a crime scene for awhile.
 Quoting: pinkpixiexx




Thanks for your anecdotal obseravtions, but in reality its not up for discussion whether are not gunshot DOA victims are normally left on scene while the law enforcement investigation is completed. That statement is fact.

The only people continuing to push the false info that EMS should have been rushing them to the hospital are people with a clearcut disinformation agenda. That is - they dont care about truth, but in fact are intentionally trying to destroy the very concept of truth.
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Why do you assume people questioning things aren't being objective?
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Why do you assume people questioning things aren't being objective?
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I am not assuming that all of you are not.

I just don't want to name names or call anyone out.
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The most important aspect of looking into conspiracy theories....is to have the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

If people don't have that, they end up looking like idiots when everytime theres an earthquake it was haarp, or everytime theres a shooting it must be a hoax, or everytime NASA says anything they must be lying and we are doomed to be hit by a comet or meteor.

There are times to be suspicious, and times to realize life happens.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


And you have this power of "discernment" to the extent that you can tell, based on MSM reporting, whether an event is staged by people with nefarious intent vs "life happens?" I've seen you post similar comments on other threads and think you're a either a shill or a colossal asshole... or both.s226
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For one I never said it's based purely on msm reporting, nice strawman there bud.

As for the rest of your post it's purely opinion so..1dunno1
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


Many people you will find stating false info do in fact need better discernment.

However, many people that you will find at this site and others and on Youtube and in blogs and elsewhere know exactly what they are doing. They are pushing disinformation and misinformation as part of a coordinated disinformation campaign that is spread across the net. These are the real 'shills.'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973



OH THE IRONY!!!!!!!!




AnonymousCoward973 is a SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

check out this 9/11 Pentagon thread
Thread: For anyone who thinks that A PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON.....(look inside)

He does nothing but argue moot points to distract people from the real conversation.....

DONT PAY ATTENTION TO HIS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!


HE IS A FUCKING SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why do you assume people questioning things aren't being objective?
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some are


However, lets take the topic of this thread as one example out of 1,000's where the same thing is happening.


People make claims that EMS should have been doing this and that, and that DOA would have been rushed to the hospital. This first happened right after Sandy Hook, like the next day at the latest.

That is plainly proven to be incorrect.

They continue to twist the issue in any way they can instead of acknowledging its not true. Often they will leave only to come back a few pages later to repeat the same false info they stated and were proven rong on from a few pages back.

Another thread pops up later and the same false things are said by the same people and they KNOW its false.

Then it happens again with the same people in even other threads... and on and on.



Dr. Charles Norris' recent thread on Flight 77 is another example of the same disinfo campaign. If you look at that thread, please know that a lot of posts by various people who disproved false claims were deleted, while the patent disinfo by OP and others continued as if nothing was proven false.
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In Dunblane massacre I believe the children who were killed were not rushed to hospital either and it took several hours to identify and inform parents of children who died.

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 Quoting: pinkpixiexx


it exists also theory about Dunblane that talk about hoax.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Andy Murray (the tennis player) didnt even remember this.
and he was in the class.

so i dont know if it's a good example to compare with.

The best to compare is Columbine.
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]


and it really dont look like Sandy Hook.
 Quoting: Fred 32225240


Hmmmm seems you maybe didn't actually read article I linked to...very much about Andy Murray and how a female tennis player went to help him and some friends after massacre...

'I arrived around one week after the attack and brought as many tennis rackets as I could with me from Colorado,' said Andrea (who was a former world number two and retired in 1987).
'The kids were shaken up, but some like Andy who had to hide (during the shootings) were quiet and seemed haunted.
'We set up a net and a court, and we played a game of tennis.
'Andy was already playing tennis by then and he definitely had an idea of how to hold a grip and he successfully passed me on the court.
'He was small but pretty good.
'Of course he had to hide during the attack (carried out by the 43-year-old gunman Thomas Hamilton) and a lot of people didn't really know till recently that he was even there during the massacre.'
'He has only recently begun to discuss the events of 16 years ago,' said Andrea.

Future tennis champion Andy Murray attended the school at the time and was forced to take cover in a classroom. Murray has previously stated that he was too young to understand what was happening and is reluctant to talk about it in interviews.
In his autobiography Hitting Back he states that he attended a youth group run by Hamilton, and that his mother gave Hamilton lifts in her car.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]


I'm sorry but Dunblane was very real and a very sad day here. It was the trigger to put in place even stricter gun control but although there were some objections..it was not such a huge thing here in UK as it is for people in USA. They did not need a hoax to get it done...these massacres do happen...and they just used that event.

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AnonymousCoward973 is a SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

check out this 9/11 Pentagon thread
Thread: For anyone who thinks that A PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON.....(look inside)

He does nothing but argue moot points to distract people from the real conversation.....

DONT PAY ATTENTION TO HIS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!


HE IS A FUCKING SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris




Yeah ... why dont you tell us YET AGAIN how 'the 9/11 Commission report stated that Flight 77 skidded across the lawn [when it in fact does not state that!] and that its all a lie because the lawn wasnt torn all up so it must not have been a plane.'
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And I guarantee you that if this did not happen at a school and children were not involved, people would be more open to being suspicious. People don't want to believe this is a hoax or not on the up and up. I know that I, initially, felt guilt for questioning anything about it...because children were involved. I don't want to believe that people in powerful positions would purposely do this, but, I can't deny my common sense, hard as I have tried.

The only reason, in my opinion, that more people aren't "suspicious" is simply because of the children.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


Naw, more children died on 9-11, people have no problem looking at that as a conspiracy.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


Yes we know people died. I watched on TV as men jumped to their deaths, I actually talked to families who had lost fathers and other family members there.

When a bunch of people die, there's usually no question about it. Whether you believe it was a conspiracy or you actually swallowed the boxcutter story, there's no doubt that real people actually died in that event.

Sandy Hook is very weird, it's not clear that anyone died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


So everytime there is a tragedy, they need to pull all the bodies out into the open for a photo op so people will believe the story?

I for one, am very glad I never saw any of those poor kids bodies.
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Oh, formerly Heisenberg. Got it!



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What shooting? What massacre?
I did not see any evidence of any such thing happening.

That scene was clean as a whistle.
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AnonymousCoward973 is a SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

check out this 9/11 Pentagon thread
Thread: For anyone who thinks that A PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON.....(look inside)

He does nothing but argue moot points to distract people from the real conversation.....

DONT PAY ATTENTION TO HIS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!


HE IS A FUCKING SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris




Yeah ... why dont you tell us YET AGAIN how 'the 9/11 Commission report stated that Flight 77 skidded across the lawn [when it in fact does not state that!] and that its all a lie because the lawn wasnt torn all up so it must not have been a plane.'
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links to the documents in the video can be found under the video by clicking show more
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Sandy Hook children were not dead -- they were 'harvested' for occult purposes to serve as sacrifices in Luciferian evil ceremonies.
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If real parents really do exist, why wouldn't one of them sue everyone there? Let's start with the dispatcher who ordered emts to the firehouse instead of sending them where the victims were. The condition of which he couldn't possibly know. And spare me that none of the parents have any interest in money. Have you seen the list of donation sites that went up before the bodies could even cool off?

Next I'd sue every emt that was within a mile of that place for not doing their job. How about all the brilliant police that decided they would block access to the school with their bat mobiles? Local, State, and Feds all decided they would all act like complete idiots on the same day.

Exactly who made the decision to leave those kids laying in their own blood for 3 days? The same guy who pronounced them all dead? Yea, I think we could make room for that guy in that law suit.
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Naw, more children died on 9-11, people have no problem looking at that as a conspiracy.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


Yes we know people died. I watched on TV as men jumped to their deaths, I actually talked to families who had lost fathers and other family members there.

When a bunch of people die, there's usually no question about it. Whether you believe it was a conspiracy or you actually swallowed the boxcutter story, there's no doubt that real people actually died in that event.

Sandy Hook is very weird, it's not clear that anyone died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


So everytime there is a tragedy, they need to pull all the bodies out into the open for a photo op so people will believe the story?

I for one, am very glad I never saw any of those poor kids bodies.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


It's not a matter of displaying them to satisfy my curiosity or yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


"Rick Grimes" knows that. His overlords just told him to use Diversion number 493: "Imply or announce that those asking for proof just want to see dead children. That should shut them up."

The "Rick Grimes" type is very transparent.

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Why do you assume people questioning things aren't being objective?
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


some are


However, lets take the topic of this thread as one example out of 1,000's where the same thing is happening.


People make claims that EMS should have been doing this and that, and that DOA would have been rushed to the hospital. This first happened right after Sandy Hook, like the next day at the latest.

That is plainly proven to be incorrect.

They continue to twist the issue in any way they can instead of acknowledging its not true. Often they will leave only to come back a few pages later to repeat the same false info they stated and were proven rong on from a few pages back.

Another thread pops up later and the same false things are said by the same people and they KNOW its false.

Then it happens again with the same people in even other threads... and on and on.



Dr. Charles Norris' recent thread on Flight 77 is another example of the same disinfo campaign. If you look at that thread, please know that a lot of posts by various people who disproved false claims were deleted, while the patent disinfo by OP and others continued as if nothing was proven false.
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I understand. My point though is that a lot of us are objective. It's not one particular thing about this that sets me off. There is a lot of secrecy around exactly what went on inside the school, so little detail, and that makes absolutely no sense considering the shooter is dead. There's not going to be a trial so why the secrecy? There's been just enough detail to convince most people that whatever MSM has reported is exactly what happened. That's not enough for me.

I don't buy that a 20 year old kid with Aspergers (I work with these children on a daily basis) would walk into a school and shoot every single person in the head. I'm supposed to believe that all of these children were lying in a perfect little line so he could get a perfect shot at each one of them, go to 3 different locations in the school, and do all of this within 5-7 minutes? I can't and I don't. Were they all lined up perfectly for him? Of course not. So how on earth did he get such good shots with so many dead and next to no injured? Sorry, my common sense won't buy this.
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Yes we know people died. I watched on TV as men jumped to their deaths, I actually talked to families who had lost fathers and other family members there.

When a bunch of people die, there's usually no question about it. Whether you believe it was a conspiracy or you actually swallowed the boxcutter story, there's no doubt that real people actually died in that event.

Sandy Hook is very weird, it's not clear that anyone died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


So everytime there is a tragedy, they need to pull all the bodies out into the open for a photo op so people will believe the story?

I for one, am very glad I never saw any of those poor kids bodies.
 Quoting: *Rick Grimes*


It's not a matter of displaying them to satisfy my curiosity or yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


"Rick Grimes" knows that. His overlords just told him to use Diversion number 493: "Imply or announce that those asking for proof just want to see dead children. That should shut them up."

The "Rick Grimes" type is very transparent.

propoganda
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I would just like to point out, for the record, that more children did NOT die on 9/11 as Rick claimed; 8 children died that day. Considering these are the same people wanting others to post just facts, and not speculation, it seems an odd statement to make. Really though, it just solidifies the fact in my mind that most people who buy everything MSM has attempted to sell them in this case, have no desire to look at things themselves. I mean, 9/11 happened how long ago, and he thought more than 20 children? People don't care about facts. They just blindly believe MSM, and this is proof.

Perhaps he's not aware that death certificates can also be used as proof of death. They're public record...except in this case, of course.
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Why do you assume people questioning things aren't being objective?
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some are


However, lets take the topic of this thread as one example out of 1,000's where the same thing is happening.


People make claims that EMS should have been doing this and that, and that DOA would have been rushed to the hospital. This first happened right after Sandy Hook, like the next day at the latest.

That is plainly proven to be incorrect.

They continue to twist the issue in any way they can instead of acknowledging its not true. Often they will leave only to come back a few pages later to repeat the same false info they stated and were proven rong on from a few pages back.

Another thread pops up later and the same false things are said by the same people and they KNOW its false.

Then it happens again with the same people in even other threads... and on and on.



Dr. Charles Norris' recent thread on Flight 77 is another example of the same disinfo campaign. If you look at that thread, please know that a lot of posts by various people who disproved false claims were deleted, while the patent disinfo by OP and others continued as if nothing was proven false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973



I understand. My point though is that a lot of us are objective. It's not one particular thing about this that sets me off. There is a lot of secrecy around exactly what went on inside the school, so little detail, and that makes absolutely no sense considering the shooter is dead. There's not going to be a trial so why the secrecy? There's been just enough detail to convince most people that whatever MSM has reported is exactly what happened. That's not enough for me.

I don't buy that a 20 year old kid with Aspergers (I work with these children on a daily basis) would walk into a school and shoot every single person in the head. I'm supposed to believe that all of these children were lying in a perfect little line so he could get a perfect shot at each one of them, go to 3 different locations in the school, and do all of this within 5-7 minutes? I can't and I don't. Were they all lined up perfectly for him? Of course not. So how on earth did he get such good shots with so many dead and next to no injured? Sorry, my common sense won't buy this.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


First Person Shooter(FPS) games can be very realistic and FPS computer sims are even used for training for law enforcement and military for that reason.

Supposedly Adam Lanza had spent the better part of the last two years of his life in his mom's basement shooting people in the head and had what was called a library of FPS games and an area designated and decorated for this purpose that ahd become his mancave. He had been playing them heavily since at least middle school as well. On top of that he had experience with real firearms on top of that. Dont underestimate the ability of computer sim training to ready people for real world activities.

and a 20 year old is not a kid. Its the average age of the mass shooter in the US
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Why do you assume people questioning things aren't being objective?
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some are


However, lets take the topic of this thread as one example out of 1,000's where the same thing is happening.


People make claims that EMS should have been doing this and that, and that DOA would have been rushed to the hospital. This first happened right after Sandy Hook, like the next day at the latest.

That is plainly proven to be incorrect.

They continue to twist the issue in any way they can instead of acknowledging its not true. Often they will leave only to come back a few pages later to repeat the same false info they stated and were proven rong on from a few pages back.

Another thread pops up later and the same false things are said by the same people and they KNOW its false.

Then it happens again with the same people in even other threads... and on and on.



Dr. Charles Norris' recent thread on Flight 77 is another example of the same disinfo campaign. If you look at that thread, please know that a lot of posts by various people who disproved false claims were deleted, while the patent disinfo by OP and others continued as if nothing was proven false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973



I understand. My point though is that a lot of us are objective. It's not one particular thing about this that sets me off. There is a lot of secrecy around exactly what went on inside the school, so little detail, and that makes absolutely no sense considering the shooter is dead. There's not going to be a trial so why the secrecy? There's been just enough detail to convince most people that whatever MSM has reported is exactly what happened. That's not enough for me.

I don't buy that a 20 year old kid with Aspergers (I work with these children on a daily basis) would walk into a school and shoot every single person in the head. I'm supposed to believe that all of these children were lying in a perfect little line so he could get a perfect shot at each one of them, go to 3 different locations in the school, and do all of this within 5-7 minutes? I can't and I don't. Were they all lined up perfectly for him? Of course not. So how on earth did he get such good shots with so many dead and next to no injured? Sorry, my common sense won't buy this.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


First Person Shooter(FPS) games can be very realistic and FPS computer sims are even used for training for law enforcement and military for that reason.

Supposedly Adam Lanza had spent the better part of the last two years of his life in his mom's basement shooting people in the head and had what was called a library of FPS games and an area designated and decorated for this purpose that ahd become his mancave. He had been playing them heavily since at least middle school as well. On top of that he had experience with real firearms on top of that. Dont underestimate the ability of computer sim training to ready people for real world activities.

and a 20 year old is not a kid. Its the average age of the mass shooter in the US
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Oh yes, another lovely story about "Adam" that MSM has sold, and you've clearly bought. You really think a mother who was allegedly worried about the mental health of her fragile son is going to lock him up in the basement with blacked out windows to play violent video games 24/7? And not only that, she's going to take that same child to practice shooting with real guns at a shooting range? Really? You realllly believe that?

Where's the PROOF of any of that being based on fact? We have seen NONE, but yet, you believe it. All of it. Scary.
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I guess some people don't need ANY evidence AT ALL to prove that a crime happened! We have been shown NO EVIDENCE AT ALL! Did you see any child injured? Blood or ANYTHING for that fact from 27 dead people? Any signs of choas from parents not knowing what happened to their baby???? I sure the hell know if my baby was at school and might be hurt NOBODY would keep me away from that school. They held the "bodies" in the school for hours? WTF

No way a couple Police officers called for NO AMBULANCES to the school at all with 27 injured people???? And checked for pulses in a matter of minutes? But why wouldn't they call ambulances as soon as they heard Gun Fire? Why not call for EMS when they saw the Principle and teacher at the FRONT of the building?? They would have seen them BEFORE the kids but I guess they didn't need any Medical attention either right?
Are people really this brain washed that they don't see what's right in front of them? I honestly don't know if some people really did die but I do know that everything is a lie we have been told and shown and you have to be really ignorant not to see it.






I guess none of you dumbfucks has ever seen a shooting victim laying in the street for hours while the crime scene is investigated?

it happens everyday, dozens of times a day in the US

learn reality
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exactly,like a the first cpl officers on scene checked all of their vitals and decided himself that all were dead?BS,they would be rushing every single one to hospital doing cpr and whatever,unless they didnt want to
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Thats not how it works.

Educate yourself before you make false claims as though you know how things work when you clearly dont.
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i wish i could find it but someone on another thread pointed out how about an hour after the shooting, on the police radio transcript the dispatcher mentions how danbury hospital said they never received any victims, when all news stories say the two deceased children and adult injured survivors were taken to hospital...and earlier on radio you hear them say they're transporting out to that hospital.

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Look into Dr. william Begg.

He was the on duty ER chief at Danbury Hospital and he just testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday. Here was something interesting he said:

"to the families whose loved ones actually made it to the ER, we all tried our best..."

Check it out at the 2:14:50 mark or the c-span video:

[link to www.c-span.org]

How many victims came to Danbury Hospital? I only heard of one in this report:

[link to www.ctpost.com]

Check out more in my thread:

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In Dunblane massacre I believe the children who were killed were not rushed to hospital either and it took several hours to identify and inform parents of children who died.

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it exists also theory about Dunblane that talk about hoax.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Andy Murray (the tennis player) didnt even remember this.
and he was in the class.

so i dont know if it's a good example to compare with.

The best to compare is Columbine.
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]


and it really dont look like Sandy Hook.
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Ok...I just want to say....that wiki link you gave repeats almost word for word the article I quoted. No where does it say Andy murray didn't remember this...and he was NOT in the class that was shot!

the theory is not that it was a hoax...but more to do with the possible cover up of the fact that police did not act on many complaints made by parents about Hamilton's behaviour with children before the incident..and that he was still able to keep his license.


I have offered an example as comparison for the questions people are stating here about Sand Hook....you say it is not a good example because might be a hoax...but your link to wiki did not back up your claim...Dunblane has never been considered a hoax.

I'm just trying to be analytical and pointing out that what everyone is saying that all the children would have been taken to hospital is not true. They focus first on the injured but alive in these situations. This is evidence that SH is not unique in this action.
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some are


However, lets take the topic of this thread as one example out of 1,000's where the same thing is happening.


People make claims that EMS should have been doing this and that, and that DOA would have been rushed to the hospital. This first happened right after Sandy Hook, like the next day at the latest.

That is plainly proven to be incorrect.

They continue to twist the issue in any way they can instead of acknowledging its not true. Often they will leave only to come back a few pages later to repeat the same false info they stated and were proven rong on from a few pages back.

Another thread pops up later and the same false things are said by the same people and they KNOW its false.

Then it happens again with the same people in even other threads... and on and on.



Dr. Charles Norris' recent thread on Flight 77 is another example of the same disinfo campaign. If you look at that thread, please know that a lot of posts by various people who disproved false claims were deleted, while the patent disinfo by OP and others continued as if nothing was proven false.
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I understand. My point though is that a lot of us are objective. It's not one particular thing about this that sets me off. There is a lot of secrecy around exactly what went on inside the school, so little detail, and that makes absolutely no sense considering the shooter is dead. There's not going to be a trial so why the secrecy? There's been just enough detail to convince most people that whatever MSM has reported is exactly what happened. That's not enough for me.

I don't buy that a 20 year old kid with Aspergers (I work with these children on a daily basis) would walk into a school and shoot every single person in the head. I'm supposed to believe that all of these children were lying in a perfect little line so he could get a perfect shot at each one of them, go to 3 different locations in the school, and do all of this within 5-7 minutes? I can't and I don't. Were they all lined up perfectly for him? Of course not. So how on earth did he get such good shots with so many dead and next to no injured? Sorry, my common sense won't buy this.
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First Person Shooter(FPS) games can be very realistic and FPS computer sims are even used for training for law enforcement and military for that reason.

Supposedly Adam Lanza had spent the better part of the last two years of his life in his mom's basement shooting people in the head and had what was called a library of FPS games and an area designated and decorated for this purpose that ahd become his mancave. He had been playing them heavily since at least middle school as well. On top of that he had experience with real firearms on top of that. Dont underestimate the ability of computer sim training to ready people for real world activities.

and a 20 year old is not a kid. Its the average age of the mass shooter in the US
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Oh yes, another lovely story about "Adam" that MSM has sold, and you've clearly bought. You really think a mother who was allegedly worried about the mental health of her fragile son is going to lock him up in the basement with blacked out windows to play violent video games 24/7? And not only that, she's going to take that same child to practice shooting with real guns at a shooting range? Really? You realllly believe that?

Where's the PROOF of any of that being based on fact? We have seen NONE, but yet, you believe it. All of it. Scary.
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OK I get it.

Everything 'official' is a lie and everything your little paranoid schizophrenic mind can make up is truth.
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I guess some people don't need ANY evidence AT ALL to prove that a crime happened! We have been shown NO EVIDENCE AT ALL! Did you see any child injured? Blood or ANYTHING for that fact from 27 dead people? Any signs of choas from parents not knowing what happened to their baby???? I sure the hell know if my baby was at school and might be hurt NOBODY would keep me away from that school. They held the "bodies" in the school for hours? WTF

No way a couple Police officers called for NO AMBULANCES to the school at all with 27 injured people???? And checked for pulses in a matter of minutes? But why wouldn't they call ambulances as soon as they heard Gun Fire? Why not call for EMS when they saw the Principle and teacher at the FRONT of the building?? They would have seen them BEFORE the kids but I guess they didn't need any Medical attention either right?
Are people really this brain washed that they don't see what's right in front of them? I honestly don't know if some people really did die but I do know that everything is a lie we have been told and shown and you have to be really ignorant not to see it.






I guess none of you dumbfucks has ever seen a shooting victim laying in the street for hours while the crime scene is investigated?

it happens everyday, dozens of times a day in the US

learn reality
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and ... when they show you the bloody crime scene in all its glory then you would go on to

'well then what about _____________'

and then when that was proven to you, youd go on to

'well then what about _____________'

and then when that was proven to you, youd go on to

'well then what about _____________'

and so on and so on


all law enforcement investigations are a matter of public record once the case is closed. Youll be able to see the crime scene photos at some point. And then youll probably say they were faked, right?



Some things in this world are conspiracies and there are crimes that go hidden and unpunished. Most events, massacres, big news events however are not. Youve got to find out what is and what is not. That process done rationally DOES NOT start with taking a view that everything is a lie and must be proven otherwise. The rational approach starts from a neutral view. Some of you take the 'everything big is a lie' approach and it screws your world up. Then again there are those who dont truly believe what theyre typing, and type lies on purpose - ie. the disinfo agents.
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I understand. My point though is that a lot of us are objective. It's not one particular thing about this that sets me off. There is a lot of secrecy around exactly what went on inside the school, so little detail, and that makes absolutely no sense considering the shooter is dead. There's not going to be a trial so why the secrecy? There's been just enough detail to convince most people that whatever MSM has reported is exactly what happened. That's not enough for me.

I don't buy that a 20 year old kid with Aspergers (I work with these children on a daily basis) would walk into a school and shoot every single person in the head. I'm supposed to believe that all of these children were lying in a perfect little line so he could get a perfect shot at each one of them, go to 3 different locations in the school, and do all of this within 5-7 minutes? I can't and I don't. Were they all lined up perfectly for him? Of course not. So how on earth did he get such good shots with so many dead and next to no injured? Sorry, my common sense won't buy this.
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First Person Shooter(FPS) games can be very realistic and FPS computer sims are even used for training for law enforcement and military for that reason.

Supposedly Adam Lanza had spent the better part of the last two years of his life in his mom's basement shooting people in the head and had what was called a library of FPS games and an area designated and decorated for this purpose that ahd become his mancave. He had been playing them heavily since at least middle school as well. On top of that he had experience with real firearms on top of that. Dont underestimate the ability of computer sim training to ready people for real world activities.

and a 20 year old is not a kid. Its the average age of the mass shooter in the US
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Oh yes, another lovely story about "Adam" that MSM has sold, and you've clearly bought. You really think a mother who was allegedly worried about the mental health of her fragile son is going to lock him up in the basement with blacked out windows to play violent video games 24/7? And not only that, she's going to take that same child to practice shooting with real guns at a shooting range? Really? You realllly believe that?

Where's the PROOF of any of that being based on fact? We have seen NONE, but yet, you believe it. All of it. Scary.
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OK I get it.

Everything 'official' is a lie and everything your little paranoid schizophrenic mind can make up is truth.
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Your complete avoidance of what I said speaks volumes. You know it makes no sense that a mother worried about the mental health of her child, would allow him to lock himself in a basement with blacked out windows to play violent video games 24/7.But, who cares, right? Because MSM said so, it must be true. No, I don't require a lot of proof, but I do require SOME. I haven't seen any.

Notice how I don't have to resort to insulting you and calling you names? Why do you feel that need?

Btw...When the media shows us photos of "Adam" at different ages throughout his lifetime, and they are clearly of completely different people, how is a sane human being supposed to believe any of this? Did Adam also wear coloured contacts? Why does he have blue eyes in some of the photos, and brown in others?
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In Dunblane massacre I believe the children who were killed were not rushed to hospital either and it took several hours to identify and inform parents of children who died.

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 Quoting: pinkpixiexx


it exists also theory about Dunblane that talk about hoax.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Andy Murray (the tennis player) didnt even remember this.
and he was in the class.


so i dont know if it's a good example to compare with.

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 Quoting: Fred 32225240

Interesting!! I hadn't really followed Dunblane, being here in the 'states. Sounds like that's a total hoax too, if they can't find any particular known people who died in the Dunblane incident.
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it exists also theory about Dunblane that talk about hoax.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Andy Murray (the tennis player) didnt even remember this.
and he was in the class.

so i dont know if it's a good example to compare with.

The best to compare is Columbine.
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]


and it really dont look like Sandy Hook.
 Quoting: Fred 32225240


Ok...I just want to say....that wiki link you gave repeats almost word for word the article I quoted. No where does it say Andy murray didn't remember this...and he was NOT in the class that was shot!

the theory is not that it was a hoax...but more to do with the possible cover up of the fact that police did not act on many complaints made by parents about Hamilton's behaviour with children before the incident..and that he was still able to keep his license.


I have offered an example as comparison for the questions people are stating here about Sand Hook....you say it is not a good example because might be a hoax...but your link to wiki did not back up your claim...Dunblane has never been considered a hoax.

I'm just trying to be analytical and pointing out that what everyone is saying that all the children would have been taken to hospital is not true. They focus first on the injured but alive in these situations. This is evidence that SH is not unique in this action.
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sorry, it's me, sometime i look "brutal", but only because i speak english like a cow.

so, yes.. all i wanted to say is: sometime to take a "contested" analogy could be counterproductive.
(look what happens when people take 9/11 in example to talk about Sandy Hook)
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Yes we know people died. I watched on TV as men jumped to their deaths, I actually talked to families who had lost fathers and other family members there.

When a bunch of people die, there's usually no question about it. Whether you believe it was a conspiracy or you actually swallowed the boxcutter story, there's no doubt that real people actually died in that event.

Sandy Hook is very weird, it's not clear that anyone died.
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So everytime there is a tragedy, they need to pull all the bodies out into the open for a photo op so people will believe the story?

I for one, am very glad I never saw any of those poor kids bodies.
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It's not a matter of displaying them to satisfy my curiosity or yours.
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"Rick Grimes" knows that. His overlords just told him to use Diversion number 493: "Imply or announce that those asking for proof just want to see dead children. That should shut them up."

The "Rick Grimes" type is very transparent.

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The funny thing is, you don't even how idiotic this post proves you are.

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