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50% of Russians do not believe it was a meteor that chashed to earth.

 
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50% of Russians do not believe it was a meteor that chashed to earth.
Q. When is a meteor not a meteor?

A. When the Russian people are polled about it.

In the aftermath of the Chelyabinsk meteor crash, the Russian newspaper Noviye Izvestia asked its readers if the blast was caused by a meteor.

Barely half the readers who responded apparently believed the "official" explanation that a meteor crashing into the Earth was the reason for the blast that injured thousands.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

50%! That is a pretty high percentage. Especially in a place where for many years what ever you were told to believe...you believed, no question.

You may remember my post that day:
Thread: !!!!A GLP MUST SEE! I just found something in a Russia Meteor video? GLP take a look and see.!!!!!
There very well may have been more to the story.
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More Russians believe this was something other than a nmeteor than there are Americans that believe Roswell was an alien craft...and the Gubment told us ours was a UFO.
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Re: 50% of Russians do not believe it was a meteor that chashed to earth.
russian people are ignorant.
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A third of Earthlings believe in UFOs, would befriend aliens

The results are in: Seventeen percent of Americans don't believe UFOs exist, 36% think they do, and 48% aren't sure.

[link to usatoday30.usatoday.com]
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Re: 50% of Russians do not believe it was a meteor that chashed to earth.
russian people are ignorant.
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Makeing a statement like that, calling an entire Country of people "ignorant", how do you think that makes you sound?
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Re: 50% of Russians do not believe it was a meteor that chashed to earth.
50% of Russians have worked out the science world is infested with LIARS
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50% of Russians are GLPers
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Who else thinks this is a meteorite? )))

[link to 35photo.ru]
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50% of Russians have worked out the science world is infested with LIARS
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anyone with half a brain knows the science world is hiding true secrets,they never predicted that "comet" over Russia and warned the public but i bet my life they knew about it and the reasons why fireballs are becoming more common....
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either you find pieces of meteorite on the ground or you don't ... meteors are easy.
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Who else thinks this is a meteorite? )))

[link to 35photo.ru]
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Project Thor

"Project Thor

Project Thor is an idea for a weapons system that launches kinetic projectiles from Earth orbit to damage targets on the ground. Jerry Pournelle originated the concept while working in operations research at Boeing in the 1950s before becoming a science-fiction writer.[1][2]

The most described system is "an orbiting tungsten telephone pole with small fins and a computer in the back for guidance". The weapon can be down-scaled, an orbiting "crowbar" rather than a pole.[citation needed] The system described in the 2003 United States Air Force (USAF) report was that of 20-foot-long (6.1 m), 1-foot-diameter (0.30 m) tungsten rods, that are satellite controlled, and have global strike capability, with impact speeds of Mach 10.[3][4][5]

The time between deorbiting and impact would only be a few minutes, and depending on the orbits and positions in the orbits, the system would have a world-wide range.[citation needed] There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft or other vehicles. Although the SALT II (1979) prohibited the deployment of orbital weapons of mass destruction, it did not prohibit the deployment of conventional weapons. The system is prohibited by neither the Outer Space Treaty nor the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.[4][6]

The idea is that the weapon would inflict damage because it moves at orbital velocities, at least 9 kilometers per second. Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 225 kg conventional bomb.[citation needed] Some systems are quoted as having the yield of a small tactical nuclear bomb.[5] These designs are envisioned as a bunker buster.[4][7]"

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50% of Russians do not believe it was a meteor that chashed to earth.
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Proof that you can trick half of a country into believing anything you want.


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Who else thinks this is a meteorite? )))

[link to 35photo.ru]
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Project Thor

"Project Thor

Project Thor is an idea for a weapons system that launches kinetic projectiles from Earth orbit to damage targets on the ground. Jerry Pournelle originated the concept while working in operations research at Boeing in the 1950s before becoming a science-fiction writer.[1][2]

The most described system is "an orbiting tungsten telephone pole with small fins and a computer in the back for guidance". The weapon can be down-scaled, an orbiting "crowbar" rather than a pole.[citation needed] The system described in the 2003 United States Air Force (USAF) report was that of 20-foot-long (6.1 m), 1-foot-diameter (0.30 m) tungsten rods, that are satellite controlled, and have global strike capability, with impact speeds of Mach 10.[3][4][5]

The time between deorbiting and impact would only be a few minutes, and depending on the orbits and positions in the orbits, the system would have a world-wide range.[citation needed] There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft or other vehicles. Although the SALT II (1979) prohibited the deployment of orbital weapons of mass destruction, it did not prohibit the deployment of conventional weapons. The system is prohibited by neither the Outer Space Treaty nor the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.[4][6]

The idea is that the weapon would inflict damage because it moves at orbital velocities, at least 9 kilometers per second. Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 225 kg conventional bomb.[citation needed] Some systems are quoted as having the yield of a small tactical nuclear bomb.[5] These designs are envisioned as a bunker buster.[4][7]"

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 Quoting: PIR


i dont buy it

if you think all these so called "meteors" are weapons what the hell are they targeting??????,there have been meteors all over the world the last few months............
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russian people are ignorant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1025215


Makeing a statement like that, calling an entire Country of people "ignorant", how do you think that makes you sound?
 Quoting: Wash


it's not just the russians though

take a look at this site, at all the countries posters

it's endemic

the whole human race are ignorant, in the main, and that is a fucking fact!
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Who else thinks this is a meteorite? )))

[link to 35photo.ru]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141002


Project Thor

"Project Thor

Project Thor is an idea for a weapons system that launches kinetic projectiles from Earth orbit to damage targets on the ground. Jerry Pournelle originated the concept while working in operations research at Boeing in the 1950s before becoming a science-fiction writer.[1][2]

The most described system is "an orbiting tungsten telephone pole with small fins and a computer in the back for guidance". The weapon can be down-scaled, an orbiting "crowbar" rather than a pole.[citation needed] The system described in the 2003 United States Air Force (USAF) report was that of 20-foot-long (6.1 m), 1-foot-diameter (0.30 m) tungsten rods, that are satellite controlled, and have global strike capability, with impact speeds of Mach 10.[3][4][5]

The time between deorbiting and impact would only be a few minutes, and depending on the orbits and positions in the orbits, the system would have a world-wide range.[citation needed] There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft or other vehicles. Although the SALT II (1979) prohibited the deployment of orbital weapons of mass destruction, it did not prohibit the deployment of conventional weapons. The system is prohibited by neither the Outer Space Treaty nor the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.[4][6]

The idea is that the weapon would inflict damage because it moves at orbital velocities, at least 9 kilometers per second. Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 225 kg conventional bomb.[citation needed] Some systems are quoted as having the yield of a small tactical nuclear bomb.[5] These designs are envisioned as a bunker buster.[4][7]"

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 Quoting: PIR


i dont buy it

if you think all these so called "meteors" are weapons what the hell are they targeting??????,there have been meteors all over the world the last few months............
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1496863


No one said they were all weapons...and that is the beauty of such a weapon...it is clandestine in the fact it appears to be nothing more than a natural event.

The ultimate subterfuge via camouflage.
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Who else thinks this is a meteorite? )))

[link to 35photo.ru]
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beautiful photo, and yes, it's a meteorite.
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Who else thinks this is a meteorite? )))

[link to 35photo.ru]
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Project Thor

"Project Thor

Project Thor is an idea for a weapons system that launches kinetic projectiles from Earth orbit to damage targets on the ground. Jerry Pournelle originated the concept while working in operations research at Boeing in the 1950s before becoming a science-fiction writer.[1][2]

The most described system is "an orbiting tungsten telephone pole with small fins and a computer in the back for guidance". The weapon can be down-scaled, an orbiting "crowbar" rather than a pole.[citation needed] The system described in the 2003 United States Air Force (USAF) report was that of 20-foot-long (6.1 m), 1-foot-diameter (0.30 m) tungsten rods, that are satellite controlled, and have global strike capability, with impact speeds of Mach 10.[3][4][5]

The time between deorbiting and impact would only be a few minutes, and depending on the orbits and positions in the orbits, the system would have a world-wide range.[citation needed] There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft or other vehicles. Although the SALT II (1979) prohibited the deployment of orbital weapons of mass destruction, it did not prohibit the deployment of conventional weapons. The system is prohibited by neither the Outer Space Treaty nor the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.[4][6]

The idea is that the weapon would inflict damage because it moves at orbital velocities, at least 9 kilometers per second. Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 225 kg conventional bomb.[citation needed] Some systems are quoted as having the yield of a small tactical nuclear bomb.[5] These designs are envisioned as a bunker buster.[4][7]"

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 Quoting: PIR

why kinetic objects long time was flying parallel to the ground? noooo... did only if "meteorits" have engine )))!
[link to ic.pics.livejournal.com]
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why kinetic objects long time was flying parallel to the ground? noooo... did only if "meteorits" have engine )))!
[link to ic.pics.livejournal.com]
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how do you know it was parallel ??

thats just an optical illusion
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Who else thinks this is a meteorite? )))

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Project Thor

"Project Thor

Project Thor is an idea for a weapons system that launches kinetic projectiles from Earth orbit to damage targets on the ground. Jerry Pournelle originated the concept while working in operations research at Boeing in the 1950s before becoming a science-fiction writer.[1][2]

The most described system is "an orbiting tungsten telephone pole with small fins and a computer in the back for guidance". The weapon can be down-scaled, an orbiting "crowbar" rather than a pole.[citation needed] The system described in the 2003 United States Air Force (USAF) report was that of 20-foot-long (6.1 m), 1-foot-diameter (0.30 m) tungsten rods, that are satellite controlled, and have global strike capability, with impact speeds of Mach 10.[3][4][5]

The time between deorbiting and impact would only be a few minutes, and depending on the orbits and positions in the orbits, the system would have a world-wide range.[citation needed] There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft or other vehicles. Although the SALT II (1979) prohibited the deployment of orbital weapons of mass destruction, it did not prohibit the deployment of conventional weapons. The system is prohibited by neither the Outer Space Treaty nor the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.[4][6]

The idea is that the weapon would inflict damage because it moves at orbital velocities, at least 9 kilometers per second. Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 225 kg conventional bomb.[citation needed] Some systems are quoted as having the yield of a small tactical nuclear bomb.[5] These designs are envisioned as a bunker buster.[4][7]"

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: PIR

why kinetic objects long time was flying parallel to the ground? noooo... did only if "meteorits" have engine )))!
[link to ic.pics.livejournal.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141002


A bullet is a kinetic object...and bullets fly parallel to the ground.

Do bullets have engines? Nooooo....
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Who else thinks this is a meteorite? )))

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Project Thor

"Project Thor

Project Thor is an idea for a weapons system that launches kinetic projectiles from Earth orbit to damage targets on the ground. Jerry Pournelle originated the concept while working in operations research at Boeing in the 1950s before becoming a science-fiction writer.[1][2]

The most described system is "an orbiting tungsten telephone pole with small fins and a computer in the back for guidance". The weapon can be down-scaled, an orbiting "crowbar" rather than a pole.[citation needed] The system described in the 2003 United States Air Force (USAF) report was that of 20-foot-long (6.1 m), 1-foot-diameter (0.30 m) tungsten rods, that are satellite controlled, and have global strike capability, with impact speeds of Mach 10.[3][4][5]

The time between deorbiting and impact would only be a few minutes, and depending on the orbits and positions in the orbits, the system would have a world-wide range.[citation needed] There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft or other vehicles. Although the SALT II (1979) prohibited the deployment of orbital weapons of mass destruction, it did not prohibit the deployment of conventional weapons. The system is prohibited by neither the Outer Space Treaty nor the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.[4][6]

The idea is that the weapon would inflict damage because it moves at orbital velocities, at least 9 kilometers per second. Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 225 kg conventional bomb.[citation needed] Some systems are quoted as having the yield of a small tactical nuclear bomb.[5] These designs are envisioned as a bunker buster.[4][7]"

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 Quoting: PIR

why kinetic objects long time was flying parallel to the ground? noooo... did only if "meteorits" have engine )))!
[link to ic.pics.livejournal.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141002


A bullet is a kinetic object...and bullets fly parallel to the ground.

Do bullets have engines? Nooooo....
PIR
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50%! That is a pretty high percentage. Especially in a place where for many years what ever you were told to believe...you believed, no question.
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Only a complete moron could have believed what a governmental communist is telling. No more than 10% (possibly less) really trusted government all the time. The same thing is evident now. The other thing is that any argument or different comment on "what is official" could have meant loss of job for all family members and possibly a "visit" for conversation with some services.
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Re: 50% of Russians do not believe it was a meteor that chashed to earth.
90% of GLPers live a life of fear mongering, stop being psycho crazies and post stuff that actually has substance. I can go to a nuthouse right now and ask them if they believe the earth is flat, or if the government is watching...my point is, these surveys never say how many people were being surveyed, what region, education level, age, etc. That's why it's so hard to find them
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I believe it was a meteor. It may not have been a meteor, but it was consistent with a meteor - larger than usual, but consistent with a meteor nonetheless.
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50% of Russians are functionally finished as human beings.
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Not going to say how I know this info...

in the 1980s and early 1990s, the US launched several SOAV1 systems into space as part of star wars.

They were all launched from South Korea or Japan.

SOAV1
Strategic Orbitting Assault Vehicle 1
Four nuclear pods. Each 10 megaton.
Can be replaced by other item that is not mentionable.

The replacement weapons systems were on Discover shuttle missions.

These upgrades created SOAV2 systems.

SOAV2 makes the SOAV1 system look like BB gun versus 100MB nuclear since the SOAV2 has micro-nukes that are different than Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

They look like meteor strikes. The only difference between them and the real meteor is a type of nuclear waste found at the hit site.

Takes one block or one mile or one city out. All they do is cluster them and adjust for the goal.

The Russia incident could have been 1 mini nuke in mid-air that was NOT armed from SOAV2.

Seriously. Unarmed.
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40% of American believe Jesus will return during their lifetime. Now one of these is more likely?
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50% of Russians do not believe it was a meteor that chashed to earth.
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Proof that you can trick half of a country into believing anything you want.


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exactly - lol
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russian people are ignorant.
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Makeing a statement like that, calling an entire Country of people "ignorant", how do you think that makes you sound?
 Quoting: Wash


Russian? :D
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UFO dose not = Alien
UFO = Unidentified Flying Object

If it cannot be identified it would be a UFO regardless if it came from space based human technology or earth based human technology.

So if say Korea launched a satellite and it eventually crashed back to earth somewhere like say Russia and it could not be clearly identified as a Korean satellite but it did not appear to be a bolide, than many may say it is a UFO. Depends on the options on the multiple choice questionnaire, plus the percentage that would say UFO anyways.
(Korea launched a satellite is just an example, not saying it was/is. Saying the people asked may not know if it was/is somehting like a failed human made spaceship nor a.......)

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Not going to say how I know this info...

in the 1980s and early 1990s, the US launched several SOAV1 systems into space as part of star wars.

They were all launched from South Korea or Japan.

SOAV1
Strategic Orbitting Assault Vehicle 1
Four nuclear pods. Each 10 megaton.
Can be replaced by other item that is not mentionable.

The replacement weapons systems were on Discover shuttle missions.

These upgrades created SOAV2 systems.

SOAV2 makes the SOAV1 system look like BB gun versus 100MB nuclear since the SOAV2 has micro-nukes that are different than Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

They look like meteor strikes. The only difference between them and the real meteor is a type of nuclear waste found at the hit site.

Takes one block or one mile or one city out. All they do is cluster them and adjust for the goal.

The Russia incident could have been 1 mini nuke in mid-air that was NOT armed from SOAV2.

Seriously. Unarmed.
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