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Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber.

 
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You sure like dancing around the maypole Glauco.
You are very repetitive, you do not answer questions asked properly and you are quoting incoherently.
As a lurker looking in I think you are making a fool of yourself.
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Oh, really? How do you meet this opinion? Are you reading all the posts in past 15 pages? If so, please bring the questions I forgot and I will be proud to respond. If not, you are trolling, and I will not feed the troll.
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You sure like dancing around the maypole Glauco.
You are very repetitive, you do not answer questions asked properly and you are quoting incoherently.
As a lurker looking in I think you are making a fool of yourself.
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Oh, really? How do you meet this opinion? Are you reading all the posts in past 15 pages? If so, please bring the questions I forgot and I will be proud to respond. If not, you are trolling, and I will not feed the troll.
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I have read the whole thread, including each one of your posts, that is how I met that opinion.
I'm not trolling, I had an opinion, it still stands.
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I'm sure I've asked this before but how can you tell if something is water ice from pictures?

And....right on cue - the personal attacks commence cause they can't beat him with the facts.

It's pathetic.
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What's really cute is how astro gives you guys facts that you can't even prove to yourself as facts, and somehow that's more credible than MSM or NASA because he's an amateur and is a member of GLP. You people are seriously fucking stupid. Not believing what people tell you on face value applies to all situations, Astro has a 90% GLP following, however if Astro saw nibiru in his bedroom and calculated it and his math didn't show that it was there, he would deny that it was there, because his world is black & white, as most retards are. Halcyon that's to you.
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The world is many shades of grey.
The truth is however binary.
Something is either true, or not.

"There is Magical Mystery Planet™ of Doom® that will kill us all any day now" is definitely not true.
You lacking the knowledge and intellectual tools to determine this truth is your shortcoming, not anybody else's.

You push science in the same thread you push the use of chemotherapy and then preach to me that your intentions are pure? You people disgust me.
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Start your own thread, you quack.
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Why do you again shorten the quotes? Do you hope you can confuse the readers?
It's annoying for readers to scroll through pages to find the mentioned video.

Let me complete the quote:
As said above: X-rays have nothing to do with electric discharges - the X-ray spectrum is part of the light spectrum.

Also the electric field in the picture is part of the Jupiter magnetosphere. If you have any proof, it's related to the impact, please provide and reference it.

And once more: I asked you about any electrical discharges (thunderbolt) in the beforehand of the Shoemaker-Levy 9 impacts on Jupiter.

Question not answerd, but dancing around and trying to distract the readers.
 Quoting: Hydra

Well, this is all I have. I depend on previous observatins, and there are not a lot:


May I post more after ISON encounter with Mars?
 Quoting: glauco

This events are from 2010 June 3 - 2010 Aug 20 - 2012 Sep 10. Was at that times a comet in the vicinity of Jupiter?

Again you try to distract peopüle by changig topic and presentig something, that for a layman seems to be a legit answer.
 Quoting: Hydra


See again at the 30secs an explosion followed by the impact of the comet. How could a little snow ball produce a full of light explosion visible from Earth only coliding with clouds? And creating marks visible for days? These are clouds, should not persist.
 Quoting: glauco

How can a small 17 meter asteroid produce an explosion in russia?
Remark: SL9 was estimated at 4 kilometer.
May be you can answer your question yourself now.


It is only an interpretation, I know, but this seems very electric to me.
 Quoting: glauco

No there is another, more likely interpretation: explosion on impact.


If you want images of electric discharges occurring before the impact, I don't have it. I expect to get one if you wait for next October.
 Quoting: glauco

I am patient - and will bookmark this thread.


Why don't you help explaining, at NASA's model, how could that strange electric discharge occuring by itself in Jupiter on Sept. 10th 2012? With or without comet, is very hard to explain an electrical discharge in outer space when any electric current should be neutralized immediatelly? Please, don't ignore it.
 Quoting: glauco

Avoiding my question and hoping the readers don't see it:
This events are from 2010 June 3 - 2010 Aug 20 - 2012 Sep 10. Was at that times a comet in the vicinity of Jupiter?

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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I want pictures;
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Do you have *any* idea what Mars looks like through the weak telescope that you'll be using? How do you expect to see volcanic activity, sparks, huge auroras and storms through a weak telescope? Worse, if you're using a cheap telescope, the poor quality lenses could tint (chromatic aberration) the apparent colour of whatever you're observing. If you're relying on fuzzy images alone to prove your point, you might as well also prove that dinosaurs are walking the surface of Mars while you're at it.

You expect to see 6,700,000 mile-long bolts of electricity between ISON and Mars and a 13,400,000 mile-wide coma? If such a phenomena were to occur, that would likely be visible with the naked eye.

Are ALL of your expectations (volcanic activity, sparks, huge auroras and storms, 6,700,000 mile-long bolts of electricity between ISON and Mars, 13,400,000 mile-wide coma) necessary for you to conclude you're right? Or, will you conclude you're right with only a slight colour shift visible through a cheap telescope?
 Quoting: phoomp


This is responded some posts ago.
 Quoting: glauco

That's what I thought; minor colour aberrations resulting from cheap equipment and a lack of experience will be enough for you to start patting yourself on the back.
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You sure like dancing around the maypole Glauco.
You are very repetitive, you do not answer questions asked properly and you are quoting incoherently.
As a lurker looking in I think you are making a fool of yourself.
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Oh, really? How do you meet this opinion? Are you reading all the posts in past 15 pages? If so, please bring the questions I forgot and I will be proud to respond. If not, you are trolling, and I will not feed the troll.
 Quoting: glauco


I have read the whole thread, including each one of your posts, that is how I met that opinion.
I'm not trolling, I had an opinion, it still stands.
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You troll.
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I want pictures;
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Do you have *any* idea what Mars looks like through the weak telescope that you'll be using? How do you expect to see volcanic activity, sparks, huge auroras and storms through a weak telescope? Worse, if you're using a cheap telescope, the poor quality lenses could tint (chromatic aberration) the apparent colour of whatever you're observing. If you're relying on fuzzy images alone to prove your point, you might as well also prove that dinosaurs are walking the surface of Mars while you're at it.

You expect to see 6,700,000 mile-long bolts of electricity between ISON and Mars and a 13,400,000 mile-wide coma? If such a phenomena were to occur, that would likely be visible with the naked eye.

Are ALL of your expectations (volcanic activity, sparks, huge auroras and storms, 6,700,000 mile-long bolts of electricity between ISON and Mars, 13,400,000 mile-wide coma) necessary for you to conclude you're right? Or, will you conclude you're right with only a slight colour shift visible through a cheap telescope?
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This is responded some posts ago.
 Quoting: glauco

That's what I thought; minor colour aberrations resulting from cheap equipment and a lack of experience will be enough for you to start patting yourself on the back.
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Glad I'm not the only one who sees where that is going.
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If I don't clean the messages you folks leave to me, we would be at page 50.

How can a small 17 meter asteroid produce an explosion in russia?
Remark: SL9 was estimated at 4 kilometer.
May be you can answer your question yourself now.
 Quoting: Hydra

This is not the same. Jupiter is a bit larger, and the meteor does not create the same type of energetic event.

It is only an interpretation, I know, but this seems very electric to me.
 Quoting: glauco

No there is another, more likely interpretation: explosion on impact.
 Quoting: Hydra

Alright, that's your choice.

If you want images of electric discharges occurring before the impact, I don't have it. I expect to get one if you wait for next October.
 Quoting: glauco

I am patient - and will bookmark this thread.
 Quoting: Hydra

Great, leave a message if I don't return.

Why don't you help explaining, at NASA's model, how could that strange electric discharge occuring by itself in Jupiter on Sept. 10th 2012? With or without comet, is very hard to explain an electrical discharge in outer space when any electric current should be neutralized immediatelly? Please, don't ignore it.
 Quoting: glauco

Avoiding my question and hoping the readers don't see it:
This events are from 2010 June 3 - 2010 Aug 20 - 2012 Sep 10. Was at that times a comet in the vicinity of Jupiter?
 Quoting: Hydra

You are avoiding my question! You ask "where is the comet", I said: "With or without comet, this is electric". No visible comet, understand, only a nice electricity spot emerging from nowhere. Why don't you explain that spot?
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That's what I thought; minor colour aberrations resulting from cheap equipment and a lack of experience will be enough for you to start patting yourself on the back.
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That's not what I said, it is outdated. I said that I would not buy so cheap products, I said you would have thousands of telescopes to disprove me if I do shit, and that I yet could reach some observatories around here to ask to see Mars. They do such kind of job to the population.
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Stop shortening the quotes to deliberately confuse the readers.

The complete quote:
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No, you initially asked for proof of ice in a comet and later changed the topic.
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My claim: no ICE found.
The official model says that comets are made of ice and rock. So, they have such data very easy to anybody to see. Go there and bring to us where is the ice on comets. I mean REAL PICTURES.
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This is what I asked for on page 4. Do you have such pictures? You doing like Dog Astronut.
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You are a LIAR - this is from page 6:
Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 6)


And this is, what you asked for on page 4 before you asked for pictures on page 6:
Alright, so where is the ice of the comets? Bring the data if you can.
 Quoting: glauco

Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 4)


Stop lying and trying to distract readers by giving false quotes.
 Quoting: Hydra

You are the distracting liar here! Exactly what I ask for: real data in page 4, real pictures in page 6. We are on page 13, and you bring only interpreted data (you said, I don't see anything and you refuse to bring them again. I will not repage to find.), but I ask for real hi def pictures, as the spacecrafts were equiped with real good military equipments.

Where is the pictures, ancient monster? If you don't have, say that and let it go!
 Quoting: glauco

Lets bring it into the proper sequence:

Page 4:
Alright, so where is the ice of the comets? Bring the data if you can.
 Quoting: glauco

Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 4)

Page 6:
My claim: no ICE found.
The official model says that comets are made of ice and rock. So, they have such data very easy to anybody to see. Go there and bring to us where is the ice on comets. I mean REAL PICTURES.
 Quoting: glauco

Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 6)

You first asked for evidence of ice in comets on page 4 - you got it.
Then you demanded more by asking for pictures on page 6.

You stated that your demand for pictures was your initial demand and was an page 4.

Who is the liar?

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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Still dancing around and avoiding my question:
I asked: Will you back away from McCanneys hypothesis when you can't see the comets approach with the naked eye?

Simple question - Why don't you give a simple answer?
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You are asking for a personal opinion, not always a personal opinion will be "yes" or "no", I'm not so robotic to do so every time somebody asks hard questions to me. "Probably" is the best I can say.
 Quoting: glauco

dance dance dance dance


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That's what I thought; minor colour aberrations resulting from cheap equipment and a lack of experience will be enough for you to start patting yourself on the back.
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That's not what I said, it is outdated. I said that I would not buy so cheap products, I said you would have thousands of telescopes to disprove me if I do shit, and that I yet could reach some observatories around here to ask to see Mars. They do such kind of job to the population.
 Quoting: glauco


I once worked at a public observatory whose main telescope was a massive 10" Byers refractor. Ed Byers is world renowned for his extremely high precision gears and telescope mounts (and indeed the mount of this telescope was no exception; very quiet, very reliable, even though it was a simple clock drive design with digital setting circles and no GOTO capability), but the refractor itself was just a standard achromat. As such it suffered from the chromatic aberration one would expect in such an achromat, so even though the views had good angular resolution, color fringes were present on all the planets. If you were to go to an observatory and see through a telescope like that you'd probably come back with all kinds of fantastic stories that in fact stemmed from nothing more than the normal optical imperfections of the telescope.
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I once worked at a public observatory whose main telescope was a massive 10" Byers refractor. Ed Byers is world renowned for his extremely high precision gears and telescope mounts (and indeed the mount of this telescope was no exception; very quiet, very reliable, even though it was a simple clock drive design with digital setting circles and no GOTO capability), but the refractor itself was just a standard achromat. As such it suffered from the chromatic aberration one would expect in such an achromat, so even though the views had good angular resolution, color fringes were present on all the planets. If you were to go to an observatory and see through a telescope like that you'd probably come back with all kinds of fantastic stories that in fact stemmed from nothing more than the normal optical imperfections of the telescope.
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Tks, I will be careful now.
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Stop shortening the quotes to deliberately confuse the readers.

The complete quote:
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...


This is what I asked for on page 4. Do you have such pictures? You doing like Dog Astronut.
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You are a LIAR - this is from page 6:
Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 6)


And this is, what you asked for on page 4 before you asked for pictures on page 6:
Alright, so where is the ice of the comets? Bring the data if you can.
 Quoting: glauco

Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 4)


Stop lying and trying to distract readers by giving false quotes.
 Quoting: Hydra

You are the distracting liar here! Exactly what I ask for: real data in page 4, real pictures in page 6. We are on page 13, and you bring only interpreted data (you said, I don't see anything and you refuse to bring them again. I will not repage to find.), but I ask for real hi def pictures, as the spacecrafts were equiped with real good military equipments.

Where is the pictures, ancient monster? If you don't have, say that and let it go!
 Quoting: glauco

Lets bring it into the proper sequence:

Page 4:
Alright, so where is the ice of the comets? Bring the data if you can.
 Quoting: glauco

Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 4)

Page 6:
My claim: no ICE found.
The official model says that comets are made of ice and rock. So, they have such data very easy to anybody to see. Go there and bring to us where is the ice on comets. I mean REAL PICTURES.
 Quoting: glauco

Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 6)

You first asked for evidence of ice in comets on page 4 - you got it.
 Quoting: Hydra

Where is it?

Then you demanded more by asking for pictures on page 6.

You stated that your demand for pictures was your initial demand and was an page 4.

Who is the liar?

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You the liar. Where is the data? Why do you refuse to bring it here as I could not find anywhere in the thread?
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Dr Astro

im sory to take your time
let me ask u something
im willing two
for 2 weeks

whats your opinion in whats ISon tail`s will do
afecting us or not
crossing our neighborowd ...


how all those rocks will
not
eat us?
if they not ice even?

i mean u do agree with me
that a million mille tale
its dificult to prevent

trajectorys!!!


thank u for answering and for the time tooked
sincerely
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Op do you remember when Elenin was Nibiru?
I don't understand why people keep bouncing from one failed prediction to another, why do you need this so called harbinger of doom to be real? I honestly do not understand it.
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im sory to take your time
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Here's the obscure amateur image I've managed to find of Comet C/2012 S1 ISON taken in January 2013 for all the ADD/Demonic/Chaotic types so they don't have to read anything more than a few words and can quickly right it off with BS flags and make inane comments about Uranus.

[link to i791.photobucket.com]

I feel like the stripper who puts her jinger back on and walks down in to the audience to have a drink with the boys. Here's the back ground.

After the CometC/2010 X1 Elenin fizzle out last year, I lost interest in the whole PX/Nibiru/Red Dragon meme, which in hindsight we were all supposed via the to do as a result of the disinformation sown about the subject over the years, since the NASA psy-op Zetatalkby Nancy Leider brought it to prominence in the early years of 2000.

Zetatalks credibility was blown out of the water with the claim it would be seen on the 15 May 2003. When it didn't show up the Zetas confessed that date was a white lie just to get the subject in front of the public early. Just days ago Nancy then pops up claiming Zetatalk is the only authority to consider when looking for Planet X Earth Change information. Are we being set up for another round of disinformation.

A few days into the new year I became aware of a subtle energy change I found myself saying to the casual acquaintance who would quiz me about the latest doom news, "Not long to go now before the big Earth changes!" that was after the end of the Mayan Calendar came and went (another psy-op) I had no additional information yet something in me pwas confident the big changes were just around the proverbial corner.

I religiously check Space Weather's near Earth Object reports and noticed an influx of new asteroids all discovered in the new year. I threaded it on LOP and got a bit of interest.

Then the Pope resigned followed quickly by the Russian Meteorite and I was off the spidey senses were tingling.
I combed the news releases about the ISS and comets noticed the articles about the three for this year,

Comet Pan-STARRS (C/2011 L4)
Comet Lemmon (C/2012 F6)
Comet ISON (C/2012 S1)

Saw the official images which were just highly magnified images of feeble looking light smudges against the sea of streaked stars. Comet Lemmon was the brightest and best formed its luminescent blue/green colour I decided makes it a great candidate for the blue Kachina of the Hopi prophecy.
I checked the orbit diagrams noted none were coming from under the elliptic as we have been programmed to believe about PX. Why else were they racing to build infrared telescopes in Antarctica I reasoned. Comet C/2012 S1 ISON was coming from the opposite direction above the elliptic. So I moved on to other areas of Earth monitoring.

I picked up on a rumour started by a major Electric Universe Scientist that he was hearing chatter about an incoming mini solar system type object spotted just outside Jupiter's orbit. I remembered reading one of the comets had been discovered just outside the orbit of Jupiter.

I Combed the alternate space weather sites again but could find nothing. Then articles appeared about C/2012 S1 ISON could be a candidate for a major spectacle as its orbit was following that of the Great Comet of1680. No sooner had that article appeared then another one came out disputing that saying Comet displays are highly unpredictable and listing all the comets that were hyped up but fizzled out.

This piece of cognitive dissonance annoyed me. I had read C/2012 S1 ISON's core was a big as a mountain at least twice as big as Comet Lovejoy and hadn't started out gassing yet. It's orbit would start above the elliptic lit up by the Sun and it would swing close by Mars in plain view from the Earth before dipping below the elliptic at around 1 AU from the Sun (Great View from Antarctica) rip around the Sun's South Pole inside the orbit of Mercury before screaming out of the solar system from the Sun up and out above Earths North Pole in high arc. If that wasn't going to look pretty neat I don't know what was.

It then occurred to me they don't want us looking at it. Comb the internet again, despite all the high profile, main stream telescopes out there as usual we have to rely on the amateurs for any images. Like our tax money pays for these big toys and we have to wait years to get images that have been purged of any anomalies likely to dispute the Newtonian Physics world view.

Trying to find the mass of any comet is a difficult thing, for years now that information is classified like they don't want us know how big are these things that are increasingly blasting though our solar system.

They don't need to know the mass to calculate an orbit. Remember the old school physics video when they drop a wooden ball and a iron ball of a tower and see which on hits first. They both hit at the same time its Newtons Law the force of gravity is a constant.

They use observations to plot the objects movement and extrapolate the orbit based on Keplers laws which predict freely falling Solar bodies move in a conic orbit with the Sun at one of the foci that sweeps equal areas in equal time periods according to a known constant.

None of the Ephemerides of the Near Earth Objects have a value for mass. They calculate mass using other methods active and passive to measure density, so arriving at an estimated value.

Pulling up obscure academic PDF articles which is about as exciting as reading a reserve bank annual report. The authors report little evidence of cometary activity. ( No Out Gassing) blah jargon blah, meaningless graphs, obligatory comment dirty snowball blah blah..Then I came across this image buried in the document.

[link to i791.photobucket.com]

First impression its spherical, icy objects need to be over 400 km in diameter to reach hydrostatic equilibrium with gravity and take on a spherical shape. That's a big mountain!

Then I notice the angular diameter scale in arc seconds. C/2012 S1 is 15 arc seconds wide! That's 50,000 kilometres at 5.22 AU distance from the Sun. Jupiter at the same distance is 30 arc seconds the same width as the scale line. Its half the size of Jupiter! The Earth's average diameter is 12,742 kilometres so its four times as big as the Earth!

I rush off looking up astronomy tables to compare the sizes. Then come back for a third look at the image and do my second double take of the evening I can make out the companion moons right beside it!

Here's some later images with internal processed images and one I jacked up the red hue saturation to reveal the cold detail.

[link to i791.photobucket.com]

[link to i791.photobucket.com]
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im sory to take your time
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What do you find so funny, the fact that they have manners?
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Op do you remember when Elenin was Nibiru?
I don't understand why people keep bouncing from one failed prediction to another, why do you need this so called harbinger of doom to be real? I honestly do not understand it.
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My theory: they feel threatened by established knowledge because they don't understand it. If Nibiru were real, it would mean that established knowledge is wrong and now those who believed in Nibiru would somehow be in the superior position of understanding something that few others understand.

Doom is bonus for those who feel the current system is unfair.

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im sory to take your time
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cruise
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What do you find so funny, the fact that they have manners?
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lmao
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I can't bring anything of substinance to the table so I shall just post daft smilies in hopes of making people look disreputable, when in fact I am the fool for believing this shit.
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Stop shortening the quotes to deliberately confuse the readers.

The complete quote:
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You are a LIAR - this is from page 6:
Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 6)


And this is, what you asked for on page 4 before you asked for pictures on page 6:
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Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 4)


Stop lying and trying to distract readers by giving false quotes.
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You are the distracting liar here! Exactly what I ask for: real data in page 4, real pictures in page 6. We are on page 13, and you bring only interpreted data (you said, I don't see anything and you refuse to bring them again. I will not repage to find.), but I ask for real hi def pictures, as the spacecrafts were equiped with real good military equipments.

Where is the pictures, ancient monster? If you don't have, say that and let it go!
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Lets bring it into the proper sequence:

Page 4:
Alright, so where is the ice of the comets? Bring the data if you can.
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Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 4)

Page 6:
My claim: no ICE found.
The official model says that comets are made of ice and rock. So, they have such data very easy to anybody to see. Go there and bring to us where is the ice on comets. I mean REAL PICTURES.
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Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 6)

You first asked for evidence of ice in comets on page 4 - you got it.
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Where is it?

Then you demanded more by asking for pictures on page 6.

You stated that your demand for pictures was your initial demand and was an page 4.

Who is the liar?

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You the liar. Where is the data? Why do you refuse to bring it here as I could not find anywhere in the thread?
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Second time I gave you the data (first time is pages back - to lazy to search):
Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 13)

And you even answered to it:
Thread: Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber. (Page 14)

Stop making a fool of yourself.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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here they come again to tackle Glauco to the ground, What you sockpuppets dont have is the perspective to see youselves from the other side of the screen. You all stick out like dogs balls - literally, you come in like a pack of tick ridden smelly hyena's and ridiculously believe nobody's see's it. If I were your employer i'd sack the lot of you for exposing yourslves for all to see.

Keep annoying them Glauco, way to go man!
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If I don't clean the messages you folks leave to me, we would be at page 50.
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Info: GLP automaticaly shortens the quotes - no need you do it.


You are avoiding my question! You ask "where is the comet", I said: "With or without comet, this is electric". No visible comet, understand, only a nice electricity spot emerging from nowhere. Why don't you explain that spot?
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I explained it:
No there is another, more likely interpretation: explosion on impact.
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How can a small 17 meter asteroid produce an explosion in russia?
Remark: SL9 was estimated at 4 kilometer.
May be you can answer your question yourself now.
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This is not the same. Jupiter is a bit larger, and the meteor does not create the same type of energetic event.
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And SL9 was 235 times bigger and was at least 5x10^15 more massiv.

What do you think what kind of energy a 5x10^15 more massiv comet produces?


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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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im sory to take your time
let me ask u something
im willing two
for 2 weeks

whats your opinion in whats ISon tail`s will do
afecting us or not
crossing our neighborowd ...


how all those rocks will
not
eat us?
if they not ice even?

i mean u do agree with me
that a million mille tale
its dificult to prevent

trajectorys!!!


thank u for answering and for the time tooked
sincerely
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I'm sorry but I don't understand what you're trying to say. We fly through meteor streams from comets every time there's a meteor shower. Comets aren't just ice.

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Other studies have shown that the Milky Way and other galaxies are embedded in warm gas, with temperatures between 100,000 and one million degrees, and there have been indications that a hotter component with a temperature greater than a million degrees is also present. This new research provides evidence that the mass in the hot gas halo enveloping the Milky is much greater than that of the warm gas.

[link to www.nasa.gov]


News flash! - comets miraculously hold onto their ice while travelling through mega-temperatures lol
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Other studies have shown that the Milky Way and other galaxies are embedded in warm gas, with temperatures between 100,000 and one million degrees, and there have been indications that a hotter component with a temperature greater than a million degrees is also present. This new research provides evidence that the mass in the hot gas halo enveloping the Milky is much greater than that of the warm gas.

[link to www.nasa.gov]


News flash! - comets miraculously hold onto their ice while travelling through mega-temperatures lol
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The level of ignorance in your post is off the scale. Seriously, take a basic astronomy course, chemistry course, and physics course. It would take days to educate you to the point that you could begin to fully comprehend all the mistaken assumptions you just made.
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