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Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber.

 
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I have a pain between my ears from reading five pages of arguments, I will research this by myself, for myself- won't inflict it on anyone! LOL
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ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS THREAD BACKED UP MY ELITE PHD AND PROFESSOR TITLES.

I MAKE THIS PREDICTION:

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Liked your well written and interesting observations re ISON..

Hope you continue.

I think this could be the one we have been waiting for too...

I'm not fearful just interested ...as I suspect you are also.

I agree with some of the comments re derailing of threads ...

Can't understand why Dr Astro always appears and does this..

I don't see any need for his information re your thread as you are just reporting what you have observed and trying to put across YOUR ideas.

It's your thread and you should be able to express your ideas without this obvious side-tracking -- We are all aware of it...
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Original Post, or Original Poster.

Original Post being the post that started the thread.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Very tks!

What is important here that you were certain something was true when it wasn't.
Ergo: we can't trust your judgement.

You also claimed that McCanneyism is true...
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Well, so the problem is me. So don't listen to me, listen to McCanney. Also, you don't prove that every countries in the world ask a person to be a PhD to be a Professor.

Excuse me?
Comets have never produced ginormous lightning bolts, not even when passing close-by.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

No close-by occured in modern times.

And that's why you are a cultist.

"It feels true" is more important to you than evidence.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz,FCD

I don't recognize something as True without good evidences. But I don't depend on PhDs to do that for me.

Where is the McCanneyism in those papers?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Go check the papers I gave and you will see.

Nobody but astronomers care about his run-of-the-mill ordinary space science.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

I gave astro journals for you.

Why do I have to keep reminding you of the claims YOU made.

YOUR claim: No water found.
Now proof it.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

My claim: no ICE found.
The official model says that comets are made of ice and rock. So, they have such data very easy to anybody to see. Go there and bring to us where is the ice on comets. I mean REAL PICTURES.

That's what culties often think.
Intelligence has nothing to do with it.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

That's what PhDs thinks about their supernatural powers.

Yeah, by pure random chance ALL the comets that had fly-by-s happened to be non-McCanneyist comets.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Looks how you never read the papers you asked to me: he always said that big comets are uncommon.

The Church of McCanneyism.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Never heard about. We don't have it in Brazil.

There's a guru, affectionately addressed by his followers, who claims to have the only true insights in the nature of reality.
He never actually proofs anything but what he says "feels true."
His followers will stand on (digital) street-corners telling people passing by of this great revelation that will change your life if you only believe.
Etc.

I definitely get that vibe...
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

There is a guru, which cannot talk, move, walk, write, and lives in his own little world that can't go further than his own mobile-toillete without help, but have more power on scientific community than Karl Popper, Newton, Einstein or Aquiles. Nobody knows if is really him who writes his books, but everybody believe so. His name: Stephen Hawking.

At least McCanney talks by himself!! Heheheheh!!

Cut it out.
I do.
You're not my type.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

You never see me.

Watcha talkin' about.
I never mentioned Dr. Plait.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

So tell me again, evidences of what you need?
But Phill still needs to prove his claimings about McCanney!

What's your obsession with professor Hawking?
Any scientist would do as an example.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

I would do as an example of life. I would not like to live like him.


We want your evidence for McCanneyism, so far you've only produced a lot of handwaving, misdirection, and hot air.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Go listen to his radio shows, he always prove his claimings. It's for free. I can't do that, I'm not a scientist. Or buy your binoculars and wait for October.

End of this line of discussion.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

You win hf

Speculation is never evidence of anything.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

I mean that sometimes the speculations are too big to be ignored. Would not be strange to find lipstick in your husband's clothes?

This whole scientific method thing you bragged about was just grand-standing, wasn't it?
Like so many woowoos you don't know what it means to proof something.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Do that in pieces, we are discussing so many things here that is not clear yet what do you want from me other then flowers.
Listen to McCanney: [link to jmccsci.com]
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What an excellent thread!
Thanks for your observations OP........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1512463


OP -- well done in your assertions. I agree the "Comet" is much more than your average comet, and thank you for the images of the surrounding moons. Couple this with the ME TEL U thread, and we have some interesting times ahead.

The thread would be better (as most would be) if it would not degenerate into scientific drivel and argument with "Dr." Astro. He does this to all threads and it really takes away from the content, which, I am sure he knows and does on purpose.

Having said that, perhaps we could just ignore him? There is no need to answer his questions or even acknowledge him for that matter. It would improve the thread immensely.
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I agree. Astro completely fucking DESTROYS threads. Some people thought they reached enlightenment when science got popular. Some realized it was just another form of bullshit. I love how astro is able to completely debunk things I have literally witnessed, but based on his calculations (Probably on a spread sheet he made) will render your opinion false, also jupiter's orbit correct, and the moon's tilt unchanged. It never fails. Bet? Post a moon tilt thread, astro will be there within 30 minutes.
Won't leave til you agree or everyone leaves cause it's derailed. In the argument he will back up his beliefs with many NASA images, which anyone on a conspiracy site would not even think to do. Astroshill is one of the biggest problems on this website because he is endorsed by those that own it, otherwise he would not be here, as his bullshit is clearly see through to those that have their eyes open.
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The stupid, it hurts!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 142629


The insulting comments to defame my character, repetitive!
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Professor - A scholarly teacher.

Do I need to direct you to the line in your post where you cite McCanney as a teacher with a PHD (A scholarly teacher)? Or can we agree you were wrong here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36785157


I must have been mistaken when I read that you have to have a P.H.D to even think of becoming a Professor.

He didn't finish his P.H.D
 Quoting: Wispa


Either way your goal with that post was clearly to prove someone else wrong only for the satisfaction of being right, we don't need that here. Who cares if he's referred to as a professor or a teacher, when in reality, they literally are the same thing.
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I don't know if anyone noticed, but the thing is gonna get PREEETY close to Mars on September 29th....
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Nope, it´s just a friggin comet
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Liked your well written and interesting observations re ISON..

Hope you continue.

I think this could be the one we have been waiting for too...

I'm not fearful just interested ...as I suspect you are also.

I agree with some of the comments re derailing of threads ...

Can't understand why Dr Astro always appears and does this..

I don't see any need for his information re your thread as you are just reporting what you have observed and trying to put across YOUR ideas.

It's your thread and you should be able to express your ideas without this obvious side-tracking -- We are all aware of it...
 Quoting: sixpence worth 36530384


See.. If as many are truly aware of what astro does as you think they are he wouldn't have 100% green karma and be liked by almost everyone on this site. It's fucking sad to watch 90% of those who think they're awake be speckledorfed by some fuck with a telescope. Who the fuck are you galileo? NASA Has telescopes too bro, and they're not in your backyard, and guess what, we don't FUCKING BELIEVE THEM EITHER.
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I don't know if anyone noticed, but the thing is gonna get PREEETY close to Mars on September 29th....
 Quoting: musicadi

Don't forget your binoculars, this proximity will be very interesting!
Listen to McCanney: [link to jmccsci.com]
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A few days into the new year I became aware of a subtle energy change
 Quoting: indigowiz


Stopped reading right there. Fantasy bullshit is obviously a part of your daily routine, so anything you say needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe if you tune your crystals properly you can ascend to the 5th dimension before 'Nibiru' arrives. Don't forget to send a (3-dimensional) postcard.
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Original Post, or Original Poster.

Original Post being the post that started the thread.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Very tks!

What is important here that you were certain something was true when it wasn't.
Ergo: we can't trust your judgement.

You also claimed that McCanneyism is true...
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Well, so the problem is me. So don't listen to me, listen to McCanney. Also, you don't prove that every countries in the world ask a person to be a PhD to be a Professor.

Excuse me?
Comets have never produced ginormous lightning bolts, not even when passing close-by.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

No close-by occured in modern times.

And that's why you are a cultist.

"It feels true" is more important to you than evidence.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz,FCD

I don't recognize something as True without good evidences. But I don't depend on PhDs to do that for me.

Where is the McCanneyism in those papers?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Go check the papers I gave and you will see.

Nobody but astronomers care about his run-of-the-mill ordinary space science.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

I gave astro journals for you.

Why do I have to keep reminding you of the claims YOU made.

YOUR claim: No water found.
Now proof it.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

My claim: no ICE found.
The official model says that comets are made of ice and rock. So, they have such data very easy to anybody to see. Go there and bring to us where is the ice on comets. I mean REAL PICTURES.

That's what culties often think.
Intelligence has nothing to do with it.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

That's what PhDs thinks about their supernatural powers.

Yeah, by pure random chance ALL the comets that had fly-by-s happened to be non-McCanneyist comets.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Looks how you never read the papers you asked to me: he always said that big comets are uncommon.

The Church of McCanneyism.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Never heard about. We don't have it in Brazil.

There's a guru, affectionately addressed by his followers, who claims to have the only true insights in the nature of reality.
He never actually proofs anything but what he says "feels true."
His followers will stand on (digital) street-corners telling people passing by of this great revelation that will change your life if you only believe.
Etc.

I definitely get that vibe...
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

There is a guru, which cannot talk, move, walk, write, and lives in his own little world that can't go further than his own mobile-toillete without help, but have more power on scientific community than Karl Popper, Newton, Einstein or Aquiles. Nobody knows if is really him who writes his books, but everybody believe so. His name: Stephen Hawking.

At least McCanney talks by himself!! Heheheheh!!

Cut it out.
I do.
You're not my type.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

You never see me.

Watcha talkin' about.
I never mentioned Dr. Plait.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

So tell me again, evidences of what you need?
But Phill still needs to prove his claimings about McCanney!

What's your obsession with professor Hawking?
Any scientist would do as an example.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

I would do as an example of life. I would not like to live like him.


We want your evidence for McCanneyism, so far you've only produced a lot of handwaving, misdirection, and hot air.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Go listen to his radio shows, he always prove his claimings. It's for free. I can't do that, I'm not a scientist. Or buy your binoculars and wait for October.

End of this line of discussion.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

You win hf

Speculation is never evidence of anything.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

I mean that sometimes the speculations are too big to be ignored. Would not be strange to find lipstick in your husband's clothes?

This whole scientific method thing you bragged about was just grand-standing, wasn't it?
Like so many woowoos you don't know what it means to proof something.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Do that in pieces, we are discussing so many things here that is not clear yet what do you want from me other then flowers.
 Quoting: glauco


Whoever Glauco is is terribly misinformed on many subjects and even had the audacity to claim no close fly-by's of asteroids in modern times when in the last 2 months we've had many, some of which hit earth. You are doing a horrible job for the conspiracy side which still shouldn't support a belief that this comet is nibiru, because that is just asinine, but you give those who talk about nibiru a bad name.
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I don't know if anyone noticed, but the thing is gonna get PREEETY close to Mars on September 29th....
 Quoting: musicadi


correction... October 1 or 2

although if I'd have to guess, the distance would be about 0.5AU

Last Edited by musicadi on 03/28/2013 02:27 PM
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(From OP's original post) [link to s791.photobucket.com]


I see this object at various times of day at the sun's 11 o'clock position. Mainly at sunrise & sunset when the sun isn't at full intensity, and occasionally when there's a thin filter of clouds that allow the light to show through, you can see it with the naked eye at the exact same position at the image.

Not to mention how freaking bright the moon has been the last few days. Almost like something else is emitting light.
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Here's the obscure amateur image I've managed to find of Comet C/2012 S1 ISON taken in January 2013 for all the ADD/Demonic/Chaotic types so they don't have to read anything more than a few words and can quickly right it off with BS flags and make inane comments about Uranus.

[link to i791.photobucket.com]

I feel like the stripper who puts her jinger back on and walks down in to the audience to have a drink with the boys. Here's the back ground.

After the CometC/2010 X1 Elenin fizzle out last year, I lost interest in the whole PX/Nibiru/Red Dragon meme, which in hindsight we were all supposed via the to do as a result of the disinformation sown about the subject over the years, since the NASA psy-op Zetatalkby Nancy Leider brought it to prominence in the early years of 2000.

Zetatalks credibility was blown out of the water with the claim it would be seen on the 15 May 2003. When it didn't show up the Zetas confessed that date was a white lie just to get the subject in front of the public early. Just days ago Nancy then pops up claiming Zetatalk is the only authority to consider when looking for Planet X Earth Change information. Are we being set up for another round of disinformation.

A few days into the new year I became aware of a subtle energy change I found myself saying to the casual acquaintance who would quiz me about the latest doom news, "Not long to go now before the big Earth changes!" that was after the end of the Mayan Calendar came and went (another psy-op) I had no additional information yet something in me was confident the big changes were just around the proverbial corner.

I religiously check Space Weather's near Earth Object reports and noticed an influx of new asteroids all discovered in the new year. I threaded it on LOP and got a bit of interest.

Then the Pope resigned followed quickly by the Russian Meteorite and I was off the spidey senses were tingling.
I combed the news releases about the ISS and comets noticed the articles about the three for this year,

Comet Pan-STARRS (C/2011 L4)
Comet Lemmon (C/2012 F6)
Comet ISON (C/2012 S1)

Saw the official images which were just highly magnified images of feeble looking light smudges against the sea of streaked stars. Comet Lemmon was the brightest and best formed its luminescent blue/green colour I decided makes it a great candidate for the blue Kachina of the Hopi prophecy.
I checked the orbit diagrams noted none were coming from under the elliptic as we have been programmed to believe about PX. Why else were they racing to build infrared telescopes in Antarctica I reasoned. Comet C/2012 S1 ISON was coming from the opposite direction above the elliptic. So I moved on to other areas of Earth monitoring.

I picked up on a rumour started by a major Electric Universe Scientist that he was hearing chatter about an incoming mini solar system type object spotted just outside Jupiter's orbit. I remembered reading one of the comets had been discovered just outside the orbit of Jupiter.

I Combed the alternate space weather sites again but could find nothing. Then articles appeared about C/2012 S1 ISON could be a candidate for a major spectacle as its orbit was following that of the Great Comet of1680. No sooner had that article appeared then another one came out disputing that saying Comet displays are highly unpredictable and listing all the comets that were hyped up but fizzled out.

This piece of cognitive dissonance annoyed me. I had read C/2012 S1 ISON's core was a big as a mountain at least twice as big as Comet Lovejoy and hadn't started out gassing yet. It's orbit would start above the elliptic lit up by the Sun and it would swing close by Mars in plain view from the Earth before dipping below the elliptic at around 1 AU from the Sun (Great View from Antarctica) rip around the Sun's South Pole inside the orbit of Mercury before screaming out of the solar system from the Sun up and out above Earths North Pole in high arc. If that wasn't going to look pretty neat I don't know what was.

It then occurred to me they don't want us looking at it. Comb the internet again, despite all the high profile, main stream telescopes out there as usual we have to rely on the amateurs for any images. Like our tax money pays for these big toys and we have to wait years to get images that have been purged of any anomalies likely to dispute the Newtonian Physics world view.

Trying to find the mass of any comet is a difficult thing, for years now that information is classified like they don't want us know how big are these things that are increasingly blasting though our solar system.

They don't need to know the mass to calculate an orbit. Remember the old school physics video when they drop a wooden ball and a iron ball of a tower and see which on hits first. They both hit at the same time its Newtons Law the force of gravity is a constant.

They use observations to plot the objects movement and extrapolate the orbit based on Keplers laws which predict freely falling Solar bodies move in a conic orbit with the Sun at one of the foci that sweeps equal areas in equal time periods according to a known constant.

None of the Ephemerides of the Near Earth Objects have a value for mass. They calculate mass using other methods active and passive to measure density, so arriving at an estimated value.

Pulling up obscure academic PDF articles which is about as exciting as reading a reserve bank annual report. The authors report little evidence of cometary activity. ( No Out Gassing) blah jargon blah, meaningless graphs, obligatory comment dirty snowball blah blah..Then I came across this image buried in the document.

[link to i791.photobucket.com]

First impression its spherical, icy objects need to be over 400 km in diameter to reach hydrostatic equilibrium with gravity and take on a spherical shape. That's a big mountain!

Then I notice the angular diameter scale in arc seconds. C/2012 S1 is 15 arc seconds wide! That's 50,000 kilometres at 5.22 AU distance from the Sun. Jupiter at the same distance is 30 arc seconds the same width as the scale line. Its half the size of Jupiter! The Earth's average diameter is 12,742 kilometres so its four times as big as the Earth!

I rush off looking up astronomy tables to compare the sizes. Then come back for a third look at the image and do my second double take of the evening I can make out the companion moons right beside it!

Here's some later images with internal processed images and one I jacked up the red hue saturation to reveal the cold detail.

[link to i791.photobucket.com]

[link to i791.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: indigowiz


Great resarch Indigo!!, congratulations.

Yeap, its coming, its not a comet since its way bigger, already flipped all the outer planets mag fields and made a mess of their atmospheres.

You can argue against its existence and everyday now nasa and spaceweather tell a different lie: way shinier than expected, its breaking, will be more visible, now at naked eye, yada, yada, yada LOL, triple dog rainbows, double lunar halos, etc!!!! and the gullible say: ok how beautiful, awwww!! ;). The reality and not wishful thinking or amateur shilling is that you cant hide IT using chem trails and not divulging what the controlled telescopes see. Since its coming and its BIG doh!!!! ;). At best stall and get underground ;).

Nice name on the vatican telescope, Lucifer!!!! ROFLMAO, its their god and as it approaches (look at a pic of Deity Pan and see the resemblance with his MOST low one ie the horned imaginary asshole), chaos is been unleashed on the world like never before, order out of chaos. Instead of St Peters they might as well have name it Baphomet temple LMAO.

The thing most be blue or one of its associate stellar bodies since hence Shiva the destroyer of worlds and Shiva is: blue!!!.

Peace brother, stay strong indigo, clean of samsaric shit, change is coming whether anybody likes it or not, there is a fundamental misunderstanding of cycles, earth, what we really are, reincarnation, way better places, etc.

Follow your inner Light Indigo, this status quo will not last long, cal, new madrid, japan, italy, iceland, La sinkhole, indonesia, mexico, etc, etc, etc. all are active geo zones with volcanos, add 2 and 2, plus the economy, war, famine, disease, human evilness at an all time high, a drought that has the world with no food reserves, senseless and cruel planet wide mistreatment of animals as if they where not alive or could feel or where the Creators creations also.

This from spaceweather just now

"COLLISION COURSE? A comet is heading for Mars, and there is a chance that it might hit the Red Planet in October 2014. An impact wouldn't necessarily mean the end of NASA's Mars program, but it would transform the program along with Mars itself. Get the full story and a video from Science@NASA."

And this is call: get accustomed for what we are going to tell you later.

Well somebody got to fix this and obviously its not the ones that cause it, so.

Victory to the Light.
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Professor - A scholarly teacher.

Do I need to direct you to the line in your post where you cite McCanney as a teacher with a PHD (A scholarly teacher)? Or can we agree you were wrong here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36785157


I must have been mistaken when I read that you have to have a P.H.D to even think of becoming a Professor.

He didn't finish his P.H.D
 Quoting: Wispa


Either way your goal with that post was clearly to prove someone else wrong only for the satisfaction of being right, we don't need that here. Who cares if he's referred to as a professor or a teacher, when in reality, they literally are the same thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36785157


Giving yourself a title you have not earned demeans your credibility, a Teacher and Professor are not the same, a Professor has to do a lot more schooling themselves AND earn a PHD before they can go on to teach.

This isn't about me being right, it is about the credibility of a man some on here believe.
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Liked your well written and interesting observations re ISON..

Hope you continue.

I think this could be the one we have been waiting for too...

I'm not fearful just interested ...as I suspect you are also.

I agree with some of the comments re derailing of threads ...

Can't understand why Dr Astro always appears and does this..

I don't see any need for his information re your thread as you are just reporting what you have observed and trying to put across YOUR ideas.

It's your thread and you should be able to express your ideas without this obvious side-tracking -- We are all aware of it...
 Quoting: sixpence worth 36530384


See.. If as many are truly aware of what astro does as you think they are he wouldn't have 100% green karma and be liked by almost everyone on this site. It's fucking sad to watch 90% of those who think they're awake be speckledorfed by some fuck with a telescope. Who the fuck are you galileo? NASA Has telescopes too bro, and they're not in your backyard, and guess what, we don't FUCKING BELIEVE THEM EITHER.
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lol. Not like GLP admin wouldn't do a backend tweak to their resident shill's ratings.
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OP -- well done in your assertions. I agree the "Comet" is much more than your average comet, and thank you for the images of the surrounding moons. Couple this with the ME TEL U thread, and we have some interesting times ahead.

The thread would be better (as most would be) if it would not degenerate into scientific drivel and argument with "Dr." Astro. He does this to all threads and it really takes away from the content, which, I am sure he knows and does on purpose.

Having said that, perhaps we could just ignore him? There is no need to answer his questions or even acknowledge him for that matter. It would improve the thread immensely.
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I agree. Astro completely fucking DESTROYS threads. Some people thought they reached enlightenment when science got popular. Some realized it was just another form of bullshit. I love how astro is able to completely debunk things I have literally witnessed, but based on his calculations (Probably on a spread sheet he made) will render your opinion false, also jupiter's orbit correct, and the moon's tilt unchanged. It never fails. Bet? Post a moon tilt thread, astro will be there within 30 minutes.
Won't leave til you agree or everyone leaves cause it's derailed. In the argument he will back up his beliefs with many NASA images, which anyone on a conspiracy site would not even think to do. Astroshill is one of the biggest problems on this website because he is endorsed by those that own it, otherwise he would not be here, as his bullshit is clearly see through to those that have their eyes open.
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The stupid, it hurts!
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The insulting comments to defame my character, repetitive!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36785157


OK! AC....157 tell us what you think a good discussion should entail.
It's always been my belief that opinions based on FACT were required if a person wanted to find out the truth.
Interesting discussions without FACTS is fear mongering, gossip and unfounded chatter... a total waste of time.
Interesting discussions based on FACTS is worth spending time on ... and gives the resulting opinions of the discussion far more accuracy and reliability.

So are you telling us, that lies and unfounded speculation make a more interesting discussion? If so, I'll steer clear of your threads and posts from now on.

I'm looking for FACTUAL info (which Astro Mutt provides), not fiction... TV offers enough fiction, I don't need to come here for more of that.
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If you removed Jupiter from the equation Io would go dormant. Moons further from Jupiter are examples of less activity, though you couldn't call them dead either.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Yeah, I know, but is not the example I ask for you. Io is always changing, I want an example of a dorment planet or moon that started suddenly to show huge transformations in its atmosphere and surface, not a place where it is always changing!
 Quoting: glauco

Moving the goalposts. Here's what you originally said, word for word.
Give me only one example of a planet getting or losing large amount of atmosphere, or getting dozens of vulcans erupting, or getting new moutains by itself in one-week period and I do the bet in your conditions.
 Quoting: glauco

Your goalpost has been met. Now honor your promise and answer the question. It's not even a bet, it's a question, answer it.
Moving the goalposts. If you don't care that Io is a moon, and you have indicated that is not your problem with it, then your goalpost has been met. Now answer my question as you agreed to.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

I said, I don't agree with Io.
 Quoting: glauco

Only because you're moving the goalposts. Your original goalpost was met, now do what you said you would do.
Considering you and your self-admitted layman knowledge, it will most likely be a case of chromatic aberration or poor white balance.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

At least you would be able to check by yourself with your own cheap equipment. I would not be able to do the same in your conditions.
 Quoting: glauco

By the nature of what I'm going to do, astrometrically measure Mars' position in space, I will have images of Mars. But of course you will probably just whine some more that you're not able to get images of Mars in the manner that I am and therefore it's not fair, blah blah blah.
Whatever the case it will be irrelevant and have nothing to do with the mass of the comet which I will show is not at all like what McCanney claimed it was.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

This have everything to do with the comet size. How to explain a planet gaining or loosing its atmosphere, getting volcanos going off, turning the surface color just after a close comet encounter if not by its size?? If small comets can do that, man I'm really concerned!
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Maybe a large asteroid impacted it on the far side, maybe martians set off a massive nuclear bomb somewhere under the surface, maybe unicorn farts did it, whatever the case it would not require the comet to have a high mass and if Mars' orbit lacked perturbations then we would know the comet does not have much mass regardless of whatever else happens. You don't seem to understand what it means to prove something.
The question is whether you will ignore that empirical data or not. Yes or no?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

If you don't ignore mine, I will not ignore yours.
 Quoting: glauco

Yes or no. I already explained why your hypothetical would not be confirmation of the comet's mass, especially in the presence of other evidence showing no perturbations of Mars' orbit.
No, I did not say that.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

You almost did.
 Quoting: glauco

First you claimed I said it and now you claim I almost said it. Do you think you can read minds now? I didn't "almost" say it.
I don't care that you're incapable of doing the measurements yourself because that is your problem and has nothing to do with the real issue.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

This is between me and you, so this really has something to do with the issue.
 Quoting: glauco

You're trying to make this personal. It's not. It's a simple question. Will you ignore the empirical data showing the comet's mass is nowhere near what McCanney claimed, yes or no? Whether you can personally make such measurements yourself is not the issue.
It is not a bet.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Yes, it is.
 Quoting: glauco

It is not a bet. It is a question. Your goalpost for answering the question was met, so answer it.
I did not ask you to wager anything,
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Yes, you did, you ask me to abandon McCanney if no orbital changing occurs with Mars. This is a bet.
 Quoting: glauco

You're showing that your beliefs are religious and cultish in nature. It's a matter of personal allegiance to McCanney for you. I am asking if you would ignore the empirical evidence if it disagreed with McCanney. If your answer to that question is yes, so be it. I am not asking you to abandon McCanney, if you wish to believe him regardless of the empirical evidence that is your choice. I am asking you to be honest about it.
You can, there is nothing physically preventing you from doing so.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

No equipment, no know-how. I guess I'm in a little disadvantage here.
 Quoting: glauco

That is irrelevant. Your ignorance and personal inability is not a valid excuse.
You can recheck my calculations if you like, even acquire your own data to recheck the results, that is up to you.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

No, I can't.
 Quoting: glauco

All you are doing is admitting that you are unqualified to weigh in on this subject. Ignorance is not an excuse though.
Another irrelevant question, but yes of course I would take a picture of Jupiter if NASA said it began to shine like a star, I take pictures of Jupiter all the time anyway.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Nice, but I can't do the same with orbital movements.
 Quoting: glauco

That is your problem.
You still don't get it. This is not a bet or a competition. I did not ask you to wager anything, I only asked a simple question, will you ignore empirical evidence showing that the mass of the comet is not what McCanney claimed. Yes or no?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Yes, you did.
 Quoting: glauco

And again you show that this is a religious belief to you and you feel that I am threatening that belief.
Irrelevant. I'm pretty sure that services like itelescope.net are not banned in Brazil.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Never heard about. Will see if this is valid in this case or not. What if this thing gets offline just during ISON timeframe?
 Quoting: glauco

Other similar services exist, but even if one of their observatories is offline for a time they have two other complete sites that can offer services when weather allows. The exact date is not important; if it's offline the day you wish to check you can simply check the next day. Perturbations don't vanish, the orbit would stay changed, even a year later.
It's not a goddamn bet, it's a question of whether you will ignore the empirical data or not. If you want to check my calculations you're absolutely free to do so. Nothing is preventing you. Your ignorance is not a valid excuse. Answer the question.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

It is a bet and I'm trying to make it just.
 Quoting: glauco

It's not a bet. It's a question.
You're the one putting words in my mouth. It's not a competition, bet, or game, it's just a question. Answer it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

You put words in my mouth and broke my small direct statements into smaller indirect ones.
 Quoting: glauco

I did not put a single word into your mouth. I broke your argument down into the important points and addressed them.
Yes, it is. You can't igore a little calm planet turning to an celestic inferno overnight just after a comet encounter.
 Quoting: glauco

Asteroids, martians, unicorns, could be anything, would not prove the mass of the comet.
I will demonstrate that ISON's mass is not what McCanney claimed and the way to do that is by looking at what effect it does or doesn't have on Mars' orbit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

It is not enough. McCanney's claims about atmosphere and surface changing being more important than that, so if you want to debunk McCanney, you must do that in all directions.
 Quoting: glauco

It is enough. Either it has the mass he claimed and will perturb mars or it doesn't.
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Professor - A scholarly teacher.

Do I need to direct you to the line in your post where you cite McCanney as a teacher with a PHD (A scholarly teacher)? Or can we agree you were wrong here.
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I must have been mistaken when I read that you have to have a P.H.D to even think of becoming a Professor.

He didn't finish his P.H.D
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Either way your goal with that post was clearly to prove someone else wrong only for the satisfaction of being right, we don't need that here. Who cares if he's referred to as a professor or a teacher, when in reality, they literally are the same thing.
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Giving yourself a title you have not earned demeans your credibility, a Teacher and Professor are not the same, a Professor has to do a lot more schooling themselves AND earn a PHD before they can go on to teach.

This isn't about me being right, it is about the credibility of a man some on here believe.
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Astronutsack doesn't have a PhD in anything, is an confessed amateur photographer and astronomer, yet the gullible here treat him like a god.

He's a disinfo shill being fed scripts by real sellout scientists.
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There aint no such thing as Nibiru, little boy blue or the man on the moon in summertime.
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I agree. Astro completely fucking DESTROYS threads. Some people thought they reached enlightenment when science got popular. Some realized it was just another form of bullshit. I love how astro is able to completely debunk things I have literally witnessed, but based on his calculations (Probably on a spread sheet he made) will render your opinion false, also jupiter's orbit correct, and the moon's tilt unchanged. It never fails. Bet? Post a moon tilt thread, astro will be there within 30 minutes.
Won't leave til you agree or everyone leaves cause it's derailed. In the argument he will back up his beliefs with many NASA images, which anyone on a conspiracy site would not even think to do. Astroshill is one of the biggest problems on this website because he is endorsed by those that own it, otherwise he would not be here, as his bullshit is clearly see through to those that have their eyes open.
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You hate science because it keeps telling you that what you WANT to believe isn't true.

That's the beauty of science, it doesn't care what anyone believes or wants.

Science is the most subversive mode of thought ever devised by men.
Be ye emperor or pope, professor Hawking or Mr. McCanney, your decrees, pontifications, claims, and believes mean nothing.
In science only empirical evidence rules, and it rules supreme.

You attacking the messenger rather than the message, IOW your unwillingness to deal with the evidence betrays your inherent irrationality.
You are not a truth seeker, you are a I-want-to-believe-r.

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I must have been mistaken when I read that you have to have a P.H.D to even think of becoming a Professor.

He didn't finish his P.H.D
 Quoting: Wispa


Either way your goal with that post was clearly to prove someone else wrong only for the satisfaction of being right, we don't need that here. Who cares if he's referred to as a professor or a teacher, when in reality, they literally are the same thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36785157


Giving yourself a title you have not earned demeans your credibility, a Teacher and Professor are not the same, a Professor has to do a lot more schooling themselves AND earn a PHD before they can go on to teach.

This isn't about me being right, it is about the credibility of a man some on here believe.
 Quoting: Wispa


Astronutsack doesn't have a PhD in anything, is an confessed amateur photographer and astronomer, yet the gullible here treat him like a god.

He's a disinfo shill being fed scripts by real sellout scientists.
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Astro has a P.H.D, giving him the entitlement to call himself DR.
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I must have been mistaken when I read that you have to have a P.H.D to even think of becoming a Professor.

He didn't finish his P.H.D
 Quoting: Wispa


Either way your goal with that post was clearly to prove someone else wrong only for the satisfaction of being right, we don't need that here. Who cares if he's referred to as a professor or a teacher, when in reality, they literally are the same thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36785157


Giving yourself a title you have not earned demeans your credibility, a Teacher and Professor are not the same, a Professor has to do a lot more schooling themselves AND earn a PHD before they can go on to teach.

This isn't about me being right, it is about the credibility of a man some on here believe.
 Quoting: Wispa


Astronutsack doesn't have a PhD in anything, is an confessed amateur photographer and astronomer, yet the gullible here treat him like a god.

He's a disinfo shill being fed scripts by real sellout scientists.
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Agreed ;), superastroshill, the only guy with all the astronomical knowledge and info that is correct FOREVER according to him, he knows all LMAO.

Stop shilling mut and deal with the fact its coming, if you have something to stop it, fire at will LOL.

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A few days into the new year I became aware of a subtle energy change
 Quoting: indigowiz


Stopped reading right there. Fantasy bullshit is obviously a part of your daily routine, so anything you say needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe if you tune your crystals properly you can ascend to the 5th dimension before 'Nibiru' arrives. Don't forget to send a (3-dimensional) postcard.
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I get your view on how stupid new agers sound, and I agree most of them are fucking retarded. "I felt a subtle energy change". REALLY? DID YA NOW? How the fuck are you gonna make an outrageous claim like I felt an energy change when you couldn't possibly even have something similiar to think about comparing that feeling to. Whoever wrote that sentence is a fucking retard. Personal beliefs don't affect whether or not crystals store information (which is true), multiple dimensions exist (it would actually be more odd to be solo), or if a planet is moving through our solar system. To say you know these things when you've been in this trillion year old universe for 20 years is the stupidest thing you could ever do. People start on default as prove it or its not real, this is biased. One must enter everything in complete neutrality to give an unbiased answer. If you start an equation with the wrong variant, you'll inevitably get a wrong answer.
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Whoever Glauco is is terribly misinformed on many subjects and even had the audacity to claim no close fly-by's of asteroids in modern times when in the last 2 months we've had many, some of which hit earth. You are doing a horrible job for the conspiracy side which still shouldn't support a belief that this comet is nibiru, because that is just asinine, but you give those who talk about nibiru a bad name.
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Who is talking about asteroids here? I'm talking about COMETS!
Also I don't believe this little comet is the BIG NIBIRU.
Listen to McCanney: [link to jmccsci.com]
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Astronutsack doesn't have a PhD in anything, is an confessed amateur photographer and astronomer, yet the gullible here treat him like a god.

He's a disinfo shill being fed scripts by real sellout scientists.
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Time after time he brings hard data to the table, whereas the lot of you usually just bring 'your gut feeling' and when he shuts you up with the math, you just revert to insults and accusations of shillery.
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although I wouldn't put it this way, the idea has something.... as soon people start to rely on, follow and believe without doubt everything someone says, they are prone to be misguided!

"Don't blindly believe what I say. Don't believe me because others convince you of my words. Don't believe anything you see, read, or hear from others, whether of authority, religious teachers or texts. Don't rely on logic alone, nor speculation. Don't infer or be deceived by appearances."

"Do not give up your authority and follow blindly the will of others. This way will lead to only delusion."

"Find out for yourself what is truth, what is real. Discover that there are virtuous things and there are non-virtuous things. Once you have discovered for yourself give up the bad and embrace the good."

- The Buddha
God has no enemies! God is LOVE! Love is the most powerful weapon in the world. All who try to play God are wasting their time and will get kicked in the ass over and over again until they learn their lesson! PS. I'M HUNGARIAN!
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Professor - A scholarly teacher.

Do I need to direct you to the line in your post where you cite McCanney as a teacher with a PHD (A scholarly teacher)? Or can we agree you were wrong here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36785157


I must have been mistaken when I read that you have to have a P.H.D to even think of becoming a Professor.

He didn't finish his P.H.D
 Quoting: Wispa


Either way your goal with that post was clearly to prove someone else wrong only for the satisfaction of being right, we don't need that here. Who cares if he's referred to as a professor or a teacher, when in reality, they literally are the same thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36785157


Giving yourself a title you have not earned demeans your credibility, a Teacher and Professor are not the same, a Professor has to do a lot more schooling themselves AND earn a PHD before they can go on to teach.

This isn't about me being right, it is about the credibility of a man some on here believe.
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Sweetie are you arguing your opinion or the definiton of professor because having wiki'd it, posted it on here for you to read, I can't understand your ignorance.
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Astronutsack doesn't have a PhD in anything, is an confessed amateur photographer and astronomer, yet the gullible here treat him like a god.

He's a disinfo shill being fed scripts by real sellout scientists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1814765


although I wouldn't put it this way, the idea has something.... as soon people start to rely on, follow and believe without doubt everything someone says, they are prone to be misguided!

"Don't blindly believe what I say. Don't believe me because others convince you of my words. Don't believe anything you see, read, or hear from others, whether of authority, religious teachers or texts. Don't rely on logic alone, nor speculation. Don't infer or be deceived by appearances."

"Do not give up your authority and follow blindly the will of others. This way will lead to only delusion."

"Find out for yourself what is truth, what is real. Discover that there are virtuous things and there are non-virtuous things. Once you have discovered for yourself give up the bad and embrace the good."

- The Buddha
God has no enemies! God is LOVE! Love is the most powerful weapon in the world. All who try to play God are wasting their time and will get kicked in the ass over and over again until they learn their lesson! PS. I'M HUNGARIAN!

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