Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber.

Time after time he brings hard data to the table, whereas the lot of you usually just bring 'your gut feeling' and when he shuts you up with the math, you just revert to insults and accusations of shillery.

Can you do better arrogant prick?

although I wouldn't put it this way, the idea has something.... as soon people start to rely on, follow and believe without doubt everything someone says, they are prone to be misguided!

Sweetie are you arguing your opinion or the definiton of professor because having wiki'd it, posted it on here for you to read, I can't understand your ignorance.

By definition a professor is a scholarly teacher, by definition a scholar is someone who is highly educated in a certain field. Do you deny this? So by definition, McCanney is a Professor. As he professes many things. Do not argue for your opinion on the role a professor should fill. A professor is but one thing, a man that professes.

You hate science because it keeps telling you that what you WANT to believe isn't true.

That's the beauty of science, it doesn't care what anyone believes or wants.

Science is the most subversive mode of thought ever devised by men.
Be ye emperor or pope, professor Hawking or Mr. McCanney, your decrees, pontifications, claims, and believes mean nothing.
In science only empirical evidence rules, and it rules supreme.

You attacking the messenger rather than the message, IOW your unwillingness to deal with the evidence betrays your inherent irrationality.
You are not a truth seeker, you are a I-want-to-believe-r.

:Schlock:

Nice of you to surmise how I know. Show me my ignorance or at least show me where I am wrong, if I am I will apologise, that is if you can show me.


He claimed to be a Professor at Cornell if I remember right ? you can't hold the Professors title there with just a masters degree.

Oh poor baby.. the world is such a confusing place for the sheeple trying to make sense of it ay.

TPTB spread the disinfo that's why there is so much confusion.

A brown dwarf flew past thousands of years ago and ripped away the first of our gas giants Ceres Major orbiting where the asteroids are today.

The Brown dwarf called Nemesis and our Sun revolve around one another. Ceres major or Nibiru/Planet X/Red Dragon/ The Great Purifier etc. etc.. comes back into our solar system every 5000 + years.

Last time it came back it fucked up the Olmec, Hittites, Babylonians, Minoan and Numerous other Mediterranean civilisations. The Egyptian were smashed so bad it allowed the Jews under Moses to tell the Egyptians to jam their job and wondered off to find God.

The plagues and aerial effects described in Exodus just prior to the Jews exit are descriptions of Nibiru's local effects.

All parts of a celestial body large enough to have an atmosphere when they get smashed apart by meteor impact or as in the case of Nibiru get the rock/metallic core ripped out of its atmospheric envelope leave fragments with residual atmosphere which freezes when they get blasted in the Ort cloud.

Indeed most of the Ort cloud is made up of the Atmosphere of Ceres Major which streamed out behind its rocky core as it was ripped out like the pip from a Lychee. This atmosphere coalesced into a random and chaotic collection of different sized lumps that continue to rain back in when perturbed by Nibiru's passage through them on her pilgrimage between her family and the Brown Dwarf that stole her away.

When they fall back into the inner solar system they are called comets due to the electrical and thermodynamics of the Sun on the ice they are wrapped in as opposed to the asteroids which have no ice coating them.

Oh poor baby.. the world is such a confusing place for the sheeple trying to make sense of it ay.

TPTB spread the disinfo that's why there is so much confusion.

A brown dwarf flew past thousands of years ago and ripped away the first of our gas giants Ceres Major orbiting where the asteroids are today.

The Brown dwarf called Nemesis and our Sun revolve around one another. Ceres major or Nibiru/Planet X/Red Dragon/ The Great Purifier etc. etc.. comes back into our solar system every 5000 + years.

Last time it came back it fucked up the Olmec, Hittites, Babylonians, Minoan and Numerous other Mediterranean civilisations. The Egyptian were smashed so bad it allowed the Jews under Moses to tell the Egyptians to jam their job and wondered off to find God.

The plagues and aerial effects described in Exodus just prior to the Jews exit are descriptions of Nibiru's local effects.

All parts of a celestial body large enough to have an atmosphere when they get smashed apart by meteor impact or as in the case of Nibiru get the rock/metallic core ripped out of its atmospheric envelope leave fragments with residual atmosphere which freezes when they get blasted in the Ort cloud.

Indeed most of the Ort cloud is made up of the Atmosphere of Ceres Major which streamed out behind its rocky core as it was ripped out like the pip from a Lychee. This atmosphere coalesced into a random and chaotic collection of different sized lumps that continue to rain back in when perturbed by Nibiru's passage through them on her pilgrimage between her family and the Brown Dwarf that stole her away.

When they fall back into the inner solar system they are called comets due to the electrical and thermodynamics of the Sun on the ice they are wrapped in as opposed to the asteroids which have no ice coating them.

Well in my opinion the system works pretty well. Poster makes a claim, Astro contradicts with facts and data, the ball is now in the poster's court to disprove Astro's argument. If the poster cannot successfully counter, then obviously he's talking out of his ass on the subject.

Moving the goalposts. Here's what you originally said, word for word.
Your goalpost has been met. Now honor your promise and answer the question. It's not even a bet, it's a question, answer it.

Only because you're moving the goalposts. Your original goalpost was met, now do what you said you would do.

By the nature of what I'm going to do, astrometrically measure Mars' position in space, I will have images of Mars. But of course you will probably just whine some more that you're not able to get images of Mars in the manner that I am and therefore it's not fair, blah blah blah.

Maybe a large asteroid impacted it on the far side,

maybe martians set off a massive nuclear bomb somewhere under the surface, maybe unicorn farts did it,

whatever the case it would not require the comet to have a high mass and if Mars' orbit lacked perturbations then we would know the comet does not have much mass regardless of whatever else happens. You don't seem to understand what it means to prove something.

Yes or no. I already explained why your hypothetical would not be confirmation of the comet's mass, especially in the presence of other evidence showing no perturbations of Mars' orbit.

You're trying to make this personal. It's not. It's a simple question. Will you ignore the empirical data showing the comet's mass is nowhere near what McCanney claimed, yes or no? Whether you can personally make such measurements yourself is not the issue.

You're showing that your beliefs are religious and cultish in nature. It's a matter of personal allegiance to McCanney for you.

I am asking if you would ignore the empirical evidence if it disagreed with McCanney. If your answer to that question is yes, so be it. I am not asking you to abandon McCanney, if you wish to believe him regardless of the empirical evidence that is your choice. I am asking you to be honest about it.

All you are doing is admitting that you are unqualified to weigh in on this subject. Ignorance is not an excuse though.

And again you show that this is a religious belief to you and you feel that I am threatening that belief.

Other similar services exist, but even if one of their observatories is offline for a time they have two other complete sites that can offer services when weather allows. The exact date is not important; if it's offline the day you wish to check you can simply check the next day. Perturbations don't vanish, the orbit would stay changed, even a year later.

It's not a bet. It's a question.

I did not put a single word into your mouth. I broke your argument down into the important points and addressed them.

Asteroids, martians, unicorns, could be anything, would not prove the mass of the comet.

It is enough. Either it has the mass he claimed and will perturb mars or it doesn't.

Well in my opinion the system works pretty well. Poster makes a claim, Astro contradicts with facts and data, the ball is now in the poster's court to disprove Astro's argument. If the poster cannot successfully counter, then obviously he's talking out of his ass on the subject.

Either way your goal with that post was clearly to prove someone else wrong only for the satisfaction of being right, we don't need that here. Who cares if he's referred to as a professor or a teacher, when in reality, they literally are the same thing.

So he gave himself the title, that is all you needed to say. Which, goes to prove my original post, his credibility is zero.

This goes back to opinion. It is the opinion of those at Cornell that he does not meet the requirements they set for a professor, so by their standards and yours he is not, by anyone who wants to view him as a professor, he is. You understand? There is no requirement for being a professor, other than standards set by privately owned universities, as the ENGLISH LANGUAGE'S DEFINITION OF PROFESSOR IS A SCHOLARLY TEACHER, NOT ONE WHO HAS RECEIVED A MASTERS DEGREE AT CORNELL. YOU FUCKING IDIOT. TRY TO UNDERSTAND WITH CAPS ON.

and you know this from?

great now you tards have decided its a comet now.

Its a planet...

Its a solar system..

Its an Asteroid..

Now its a Comet..

Way to stay credible nirribooboo tards

McCanney *NEVER* used the title Professor, other people call them so.

Opinion has nothing to do with it, he is proclaiming to be a Professor, we all know that he is trying to give the impression he earned the title like real Professors from his bio.

Why ? he thinks it helps his credibility, he has a lot of books for sale, hey spend $400 and get a free clock.

You may want to call him Professor Mccanney, but I shall call him Mr Mccanney, his real title no matter who's opinion.

Opinion has nothing to do with it, he is proclaiming to be a Professor, we all know that he is trying to give the impression he earned the title like real Professors from his bio.

Why ? he thinks it helps his credibility, he has a lot of books for sale, hey spend $400 and get a free clock.

You may want to call him Professor Mccanney, but I shall call him Mr Mccanney, his real title no matter who's opinion.

I think you should read his bio, just the top paragraph should do it, it wouldn't have made it to print or his website without him first approving it. [link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]

So he gave himself the title, that is all you needed to say. Which, goes to prove my original post, his credibility is zero.

I don't even know who the fuck McCanney is my only intention in this argument is to further your knowledge of the world professor, because you seem to think that a professor means "SOMEONE WITH A PHD". If you honestly can't understand the clear cut defintion of professor, and still want to apply your own opinion to it, there's no help for you. Professor - A scholarly teacher. Scholar - One well educated in a certain field. Mccanney - Well educated physicist who at one point was a teacher. BY DEFINITION MCCANNEY LITERALLY IS A PROFESSOR.