Comet C/2012 S1 ISON is Nibiru the great perturber.

ooohhh, my head hurts.
Who to believe? The conspiracy theorists who produce and interpret scientific evidence, or the NASA guys who tell us to "move along, nothing to see here, you sheeple."
Although they often confuse it's and its, the fringe thinkers nevertheless go to great lengths to make their case. They struggle to find photos and videos that suddenly "disappear" when something interesting shows up.
What's going on up there, NASA? And it's no wonder the feds are spending money like it's useless paper. Why worry about the future when the whole shebang is about to go bang?
So, I have absolutely more faith in the conspiracy thinkers than I do in the authorities who have vested interests.
Professionals built the Titanic.
Amateurs built the Ark.
Keep fighting the fight, you comet-chasing, Nibiru-seeking amateurs. Or are you real scientists in camouflage?

Yeah I'm a real scientist, I'm open about that, but I do astronomy and debunking for fun. Is there something wrong with being a real scientist? Oh yeah, I guess so, because the scientific evidence I produce contradicts the conspiracy theorists, right?

Doomtard destroyer, which conspiracies do you destroy? I'm not a committed forum reader, just an interested bystander who can't get a straight answer from the scientific community. So you're saying that Nibiru/brown dwarf mini-solar system/CometX--is a fraud? Perpetrated by whom? Fools? Liars? Lunatics? all of the above? And the photos of NEOs near the sun? or large objects hovering UFO-like in the sky? are all fakes? Is it your goal to disabuse dumb bunnies like me from self-imposed goofiness? You want to keep me and others from blundering into pits of doom? I appreciate your concern, but I think I'll keep looking for other than conventional explanations of how the world works.
So tell me, what is gravity? What is the difference between mass and energy? Are they interchangeable? What is the true mission of NASA? Do we have planes or flying devices that can change course in mid-air and travel faster than high-mach jets?
Thanks so much for your interest in my enlightenment. Actually, I admire modern science but think that it is still in its infancy. And not always honest in its capability.

Yes.

And people looking for attention who want to feel like experts in astronomy without doing any of the work, no doubt. Donny Gillson springs to my mind as a textbook example of all of the above wrapped into one package.

Say what? STEREO and SOHO are exceptionally poor for hunting "NEOs," their detectors are not designed for hunting magnitude 18+ asteroids.

I'm not making categorical statements about UFOs.

My goal is to expose the truth to those rational enough to receive and understand it. If that includes you, great, if not, oh well.

Well thank you for at least being honest about your bias.

I'm sorry, I'm not here to teach you basic science or field handwaving generalized questions about UFOs. You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I care what you personally believe. I don't. I do enjoy debunking and I will continue to debunk Nibiru nonsense for the sake of those who aren't biased towards dogmatically finding "unconventional explanations."

Last Edited by Astromut on 04/04/2013 05:15 PM

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"I'm sorry, I'm not here to teach you basic science or field handwaving generalized questions about UFOs". So says another know-it-all who can't prove his point that we conspiracy theorists are wrong, wrong, wrong.

My latest source is Tom Horn, who tries to reconcile alien science with religion, specifically the Catholic Church. Unlike most of the disinformation writers, Mr. Horn actually provides documents to authenticate his theories. Has anyone else read Petrus Romanus or any of the other literature that makes some really weird connections between the binocular telescope observatory in Arizona--with statements by Vatican officials and real scientists?

I'd like to hear some feedback from other forumists who are willing to consider these ideas. Conspiracy knockers need not respond, please.

Last Edited by Seed Saver on 04/07/2013 08:51 PM

Quote me where I said that conspiracy theorists are categorically completely wrong about everything. Otherwise stop putting words in my mouth.

I assume you mean me. Quote me where I made a statement that conspiracy theorists are always wrong about everything. Or retract your statement trying to paint me as a "know-it-all who can't prove his point that we conspiracy theorists are wrong, wrong, wrong."

I thought that's your opinion about these people...

Quote me where I made a categorical statement like that. What you ASSume is irrelevant.

Relax man, only my thoughts. So what is your opinion?

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Then back your "thoughts" up with a quote.

I'm missing the punchline here, what's so funny?

Serious?

Yes, I'm serious. There's something you're clearly not understanding if you think there's something funny about the above image. Ok, well, there's probably a lot of things you're not understanding, but I am curious as to which misunderstanding has lead you to find the above picture humorous.

Man you are strugglin today

I see, so you can't even explain your position, let alone back it up with proof.

No tail of da fooking comet

but but THREE OBJECTS are there

so which one is fooking ISON???


[link to www.spaceweather.com]

The one that is moving. The other two are stars. And the one that is moving does have a tail, it's just not nearly as clear as in my image.

all three in the circle shows movement, in the third sequence even disappear altogether ,

two outside the circle, left and right are def. stars or galaxies

No they don't. Only one is moving relative to the stars in the image.

Any other opinion, good eye over here?

Please zoom in gif animation, like three-four times, from Narino observatory and comment

Thank you!!

Any other opinion, good eye over here?

Please zoom in gif animation, like three-four times, from Narino observatory and comment

Thank you!!

Look, they're just background stars. That's a fact, not an opinion. See for yourself:

[link to nova.astrometry.net]

those are not the same shots

gif from space weather shows different (position of) objects

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

where is everybody? HELLO!

Alright, you don't have an opinion, you don't even have to have.

Dude, It's the same gif, just in kmz format and astrometrically solved. They're just stars.