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Economic Tragedy That Everyone Saw Coming Is Now Unfolding In Europe... EURUSD Cracks To 3-Month Lows Below 1.30

 
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During the collapse in Zimbabwe their stock market went higher than any market the planet has ever seen!! It's all an illusion.
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When youhave more cash money than what will fit comfortably under your matress, but still need a safe place to keep it, then the Stock Market is the only way to go:

If itis in the bank and the bank folds, you have lost the money and hope of recovering anything ever, not so with the Stock Market.

There is still hope when you lose your money in the Stock Market, because the company can still come back and the stocks are still good.

At least with the Stock Market you donot lose all hope. That is why everyone is sticking their money into the Stock Market instead of the bank or even the dollar: HOPE.- where else are you going to put it when you have more than you can handle? Think of the Government, and huge companies that own huge companies etc.

Paper money is just that: paper. During the Great Depression, the paper money was used for wall paper. The paper money becomes worthless, so you cannot stock piles of it in a safe, because itwill become worthless, and good only for wallpaper.
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While being well versed in Economic issues I must admit I haven't had much time for European research as of late...

What does everyone think Germany will do about the further sale of ECB bonds?!?!?

Personally I think they will end up blocking any further printing by the ECB, but my main reasoning behind that is because, I think the time they have chosen for the collapse is upon us...

But I'd like any opinions on the subject...
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Markets down , gold and silver down?
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gold and silver tell you nothing. Itis the oil that you need to watch. That is what "talks" to you.

When Father said "donot touch the oil" (and there was something else, but i forget what it was), He was talking about the lamp oil, so i donot know that that should be applied to the crude, but instead to the Electricity, or coal etc.

They didnot use oil for heat, only for light. They used whale oil, so it could mean the cooking oil, but i think Father was concerned about the light. He was concerned about the light a lot; such as the moon for light and the sun, so that is why i suspect, in our case, it would be the electricity, since that is what we now use for light.

I am just saying this so as to not mix up the crude (oil) with other oils.

When i say to watch the "oil", i mean the crude (the wealth, not the light).
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While being well versed in Economic issues I must admit I haven't had much time for European research as of late...

What does everyone think Germany will do about the further sale of ECB bonds?!?!?

Personally I think they will end up blocking any further printing by the ECB, but my main reasoning behind that is because, I think the time they have chosen for the collapse is upon us...

But I'd like any opinions on the subject...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Many believe that in the end Germany will do anything to keep the euro alive because if it falls apart and the individual countries go back to their old currencies then Germany, with a very strong currency would be in trouble against all the other European currencies. Germany's export market would crumble. As much as Germany doesn't want to, they'll do everything they can to keep the EU together because that is cheaper than letting it collapse.

I don't know if this is true, but that seems to be a popular sentiment.
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While being well versed in Economic issues I must admit I haven't had much time for European research as of late...

What does everyone think Germany will do about the further sale of ECB bonds?!?!?

Personally I think they will end up blocking any further printing by the ECB, but my main reasoning behind that is because, I think the time they have chosen for the collapse is upon us...

But I'd like any opinions on the subject...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Many believe that in the end Germany will do anything to keep the euro alive because if it falls apart and the individual countries go back to their old currencies then Germany, with a very strong currency would be in trouble against all the other European currencies. Germany's export market would crumble. As much as Germany doesn't want to, they'll do everything they can to keep the EU together because that is cheaper than letting it collapse.

I don't know if this is true, but that seems to be a popular sentiment.
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Germany was a strong exporter before the Euro. The decision to keep the Euro has nothing to with Germany, but with the desire to not let the EU-experiment fail.
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Markets down , gold and silver down?
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gold and silver tell you nothing. Itis the oil that you need to watch. That is what "talks" to you.

When Father said "donot touch the oil" (and there was something else, but i forget what it was), He was talking about the lamp oil, so i donot know that that should be applied to the crude, but instead to the Electricity, or coal etc.

They didnot use oil for heat, only for light. They used whale oil, so it could mean the cooking oil, but i think Father was concerned about the light. He was concerned about the light a lot; such as the moon for light and the sun, so that is why i suspect, in our case, it would be the electricity, since that is what we now use for light.

I am just saying this so as to not mix up the crude (oil) with other oils.

When i say to watch the "oil", i mean the crude (the wealth, not the light).
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Oil /quotes/zigman/2291772 90.51 -1.54
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First the destruction of the European Empire, which will inevitably bring the United States down with it. This is the plan of the International Illuminuti Freemasonry Bankers; and now they are in position to enslave the whole world.

But in the end; the Great and the Almighty God of Heaven will allow them to have their One World Antichrist Beast
Government. And after they have killed and martyred most of His people; that wouldn't take their zombie making and mind controlling beast chip in their foreheads or right hands, He will curse them with His great plagues from the book of Revelation, that is in the holy bible. And even their trillions of dollars of stolen loot could cure or have a remedy; for these extremely devastating punishments of Gods Great Wrath!!

And then Gods angels will invade the whole world from heaven, and defeat the antichrist beast and his followers, in hours. And then all the wicked who didn't serve Jesus Christ will be gathered up from all the centuries and milleniums; and then Judgment Day will occur. Where the whole world from the beginning of creation; will have to answer for not serving Jesus Christ; or for serving demons and other gods of Satans.

But the evil and monstrous leaders of Satan; will have to answer for their great genocides over the centuries and milleniums. And the lake of fire and brimstone, will be their eternal home of agonies. And the leaders of the antichrist beast system, will be in the 8th and 9th and 10th levels of hell. While people who followed and killed for them, will be in the 5th and 6th and 7th levels of hell; that is 40,000 degrees of smeltering heat and fire and brimstone!! For like the burning stars in outer space; God has created the human soul and spirit to never never be destroyed, or cease to exist!!
 Quoting: moses767


you forgot the children of Satan as Jesus mentioned in John 8:44.
I was told the Jews are the children of Satan, and that the army of Satan are the Catholics. The followers of Satan would be the Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, anyone that hates Jesus and atheists.
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While being well versed in Economic issues I must admit I haven't had much time for European research as of late...

What does everyone think Germany will do about the further sale of ECB bonds?!?!?

Personally I think they will end up blocking any further printing by the ECB, but my main reasoning behind that is because, I think the time they have chosen for the collapse is upon us...

But I'd like any opinions on the subject...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Many believe that in the end Germany will do anything to keep the euro alive because if it falls apart and the individual countries go back to their old currencies then Germany, with a very strong currency would be in trouble against all the other European currencies. Germany's export market would crumble. As much as Germany doesn't want to, they'll do everything they can to keep the EU together because that is cheaper than letting it collapse.

I don't know if this is true, but that seems to be a popular sentiment.
 Quoting: Unixlike


You know, I have a hard time believing that the European country with the strongest work ethic, most productive workforce, and most significant manufacturing base would have a hard time in a post-Euro currency world.
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While being well versed in Economic issues I must admit I haven't had much time for European research as of late...

What does everyone think Germany will do about the further sale of ECB bonds?!?!?

Personally I think they will end up blocking any further printing by the ECB, but my main reasoning behind that is because, I think the time they have chosen for the collapse is upon us...

But I'd like any opinions on the subject...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Many believe that in the end Germany will do anything to keep the euro alive because if it falls apart and the individual countries go back to their old currencies then Germany, with a very strong currency would be in trouble against all the other European currencies. Germany's export market would crumble. As much as Germany doesn't want to, they'll do everything they can to keep the EU together because that is cheaper than letting it collapse.

I don't know if this is true, but that seems to be a popular sentiment.
 Quoting: Unixlike


I definitely think that is the conventional wisdom...whether it's wise or not remains to be seen.

I think that argument is a two-sided coin though, because I think Germany will demand collateral from these other countries before they allow any further printing...that is going to be a big sticking point.

Germany has tried twice in the last century to take over Europe Militarily...now it looks like they will get to do it without firing a shot...a lot of countries in Europe won't want to go along with that...

Not to mention the fact Germany is not on the same economic footing it was two years ago when all of this came up the first time...Their economy has been at a standstill for almost a year now...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 03/01/2013 02:46 PM
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First the destruction of the European Empire, which will inevitably bring the United States down with it. This is the plan of the International Illuminuti Freemasonry Bankers; and now they are in position to enslave the whole world.

But in the end; the Great and the Almighty God of Heaven will allow them to have their One World Antichrist Beast
Government. And after they have killed and martyred most of His people; that wouldn't take their zombie making and mind controlling beast chip in their foreheads or right hands, He will curse them with His great plagues from the book of Revelation, that is in the holy bible. And even their trillions of dollars of stolen loot could cure or have a remedy; for these extremely devastating punishments of Gods Great Wrath!!

And then Gods angels will invade the whole world from heaven, and defeat the antichrist beast and his followers, in hours. And then all the wicked who didn't serve Jesus Christ will be gathered up from all the centuries and milleniums; and then Judgment Day will occur. Where the whole world from the beginning of creation; will have to answer for not serving Jesus Christ; or for serving demons and other gods of Satans.

But the evil and monstrous leaders of Satan; will have to answer for their great genocides over the centuries and milleniums. And the lake of fire and brimstone, will be their eternal home of agonies. And the leaders of the antichrist beast system, will be in the 8th and 9th and 10th levels of hell. While people who followed and killed for them, will be in the 5th and 6th and 7th levels of hell; that is 40,000 degrees of smeltering heat and fire and brimstone!! For like the burning stars in outer space; God has created the human soul and spirit to never never be destroyed, or cease to exist!!
 Quoting: moses767


you forgot the children of Satan as Jesus mentioned in John 8:44.
I was told the Jews are the children of Satan, and that the army of Satan are the Catholics. The followers of Satan would be the Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, anyone that hates Jesus and atheists.
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in other words itwillbe the "Catholics" AGAIN massacriing the Christians. I guess the first one was just for practise.
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we are in the 21 century....but I think it will end in a war.....
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During the collapse in Zimbabwe their stock market went higher than any market the planet has ever seen!! It's all an illusion.
 Quoting: never96


When youhave more cash money than what will fit comfortably under your matress, but still need a safe place to keep it, then the Stock Market is the only way to go:

If itis in the bank and the bank folds, you have lost the money and hope of recovering anything ever, not so with the Stock Market.

There is still hope when you lose your money in the Stock Market, because the company can still come back and the stocks are still good.

At least with the Stock Market you donot lose all hope. That is why everyone is sticking their money into the Stock Market instead of the bank or even the dollar: HOPE.- where else are you going to put it when you have more than you can handle? Think of the Government, and huge companies that own huge companies etc.

Paper money is just that: paper. During the Great Depression, the paper money was used for wall paper. The paper money becomes worthless, so you cannot stock piles of it in a safe, because itwill become worthless, and good only for wallpaper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1263824


Zimbabwe has a fuckin' stock market...

That must be a real doozy...


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While being well versed in Economic issues I must admit I haven't had much time for European research as of late...

What does everyone think Germany will do about the further sale of ECB bonds?!?!?

Personally I think they will end up blocking any further printing by the ECB, but my main reasoning behind that is because, I think the time they have chosen for the collapse is upon us...

But I'd like any opinions on the subject...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Many believe that in the end Germany will do anything to keep the euro alive because if it falls apart and the individual countries go back to their old currencies then Germany, with a very strong currency would be in trouble against all the other European currencies. Germany's export market would crumble. As much as Germany doesn't want to, they'll do everything they can to keep the EU together because that is cheaper than letting it collapse.

I don't know if this is true, but that seems to be a popular sentiment.
 Quoting: Unixlike


You know, I have a hard time believing that the European country with the strongest work ethic, most productive workforce, and most significant manufacturing base would have a hard time in a post-Euro currency world.
 Quoting: Dom Diputs


Germany would be happy to be released from the bondage chains of the EU and it's EURO.
It does nothing except cost them money and drag them down.
Anyone thinking Germany wants to save the EURO is kidding themselves.

Proof.........2 examples of many stories.

Germany Is Already Printing Money - Deutsche Marks
[link to seekingalpha.com]

Who Needs the Euro When You Can Pay With Deutsche Marks?
[link to online.wsj.com]
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While being well versed in Economic issues I must admit I haven't had much time for European research as of late...

What does everyone think Germany will do about the further sale of ECB bonds?!?!?

Personally I think they will end up blocking any further printing by the ECB, but my main reasoning behind that is because, I think the time they have chosen for the collapse is upon us...

But I'd like any opinions on the subject...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Many believe that in the end Germany will do anything to keep the euro alive because if it falls apart and the individual countries go back to their old currencies then Germany, with a very strong currency would be in trouble against all the other European currencies. Germany's export market would crumble. As much as Germany doesn't want to, they'll do everything they can to keep the EU together because that is cheaper than letting it collapse.

I don't know if this is true, but that seems to be a popular sentiment.
 Quoting: Unixlike


You know, I have a hard time believing that the European country with the strongest work ethic, most productive workforce, and most significant manufacturing base would have a hard time in a post-Euro currency world.
 Quoting: Dom Diputs


Germany would be happy to be released from the bondage chains of the EU and it's EURO.
It does nothing except cost them money and drag them down.
Anyone thinking Germany wants to save the EURO is kidding themselves.

Proof.........2 examples of many stories.

Germany Is Already Printing Money - Deutsche Marks
[link to seekingalpha.com]

Who Needs the Euro When You Can Pay With Deutsche Marks?
[link to online.wsj.com]
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why would Germany do that, when the rest of the World is in a state of Gold Rush?

What does Germany know that the World doesnot?
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Many believe that in the end Germany will do anything to keep the euro alive because if it falls apart and the individual countries go back to their old currencies then Germany, with a very strong currency would be in trouble against all the other European currencies. Germany's export market would crumble. As much as Germany doesn't want to, they'll do everything they can to keep the EU together because that is cheaper than letting it collapse.

I don't know if this is true, but that seems to be a popular sentiment.
 Quoting: Unixlike


You know, I have a hard time believing that the European country with the strongest work ethic, most productive workforce, and most significant manufacturing base would have a hard time in a post-Euro currency world.
 Quoting: Dom Diputs


Germany would be happy to be released from the bondage chains of the EU and it's EURO.
It does nothing except cost them money and drag them down.
Anyone thinking Germany wants to save the EURO is kidding themselves.

Proof.........2 examples of many stories.

Germany Is Already Printing Money - Deutsche Marks
[link to seekingalpha.com]

Who Needs the Euro When You Can Pay With Deutsche Marks?
[link to online.wsj.com]
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why would Germany do that, when the rest of the World is in a state of Gold Rush?

What does Germany know that the World doesnot?
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I just explained why Germany would do that.
Taxpayers are sick and tired of bailing out the EU...and the EU being a drag on their economy.
Germany would be doing very well without the drag of the EU.

Germany knows the EU is going to fail....and they printed up more old trusty Deutschmarks for when it does collapse.
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You know, I have a hard time believing that the European country with the strongest work ethic, most productive workforce, and most significant manufacturing base would have a hard time in a post-Euro currency world.
 Quoting: Dom Diputs


Germany would be happy to be released from the bondage chains of the EU and it's EURO.
It does nothing except cost them money and drag them down.
Anyone thinking Germany wants to save the EURO is kidding themselves.

Proof.........2 examples of many stories.

Germany Is Already Printing Money - Deutsche Marks
[link to seekingalpha.com]

Who Needs the Euro When You Can Pay With Deutsche Marks?
[link to online.wsj.com]
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


why would Germany do that, when the rest of the World is in a state of Gold Rush?

What does Germany know that the World doesnot?
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I just explained why Germany would do that.
Taxpayers are sick and tired of bailing out the EU...and the EU being a drag on their economy.
Germany would be doing very well without the drag of the EU.

Germany knows the EU is going to fail....and they printed up more old trusty Deutschmarks for when it does collapse.
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We willnot be using gold?
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Germany would be happy to be released from the bondage chains of the EU and it's EURO.
It does nothing except cost them money and drag them down.
Anyone thinking Germany wants to save the EURO is kidding themselves.

Proof.........2 examples of many stories.

Germany Is Already Printing Money - Deutsche Marks
[link to seekingalpha.com]

Who Needs the Euro When You Can Pay With Deutsche Marks?
[link to online.wsj.com]
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


why would Germany do that, when the rest of the World is in a state of Gold Rush?

What does Germany know that the World doesnot?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1263824


I just explained why Germany would do that.
Taxpayers are sick and tired of bailing out the EU...and the EU being a drag on their economy.
Germany would be doing very well without the drag of the EU.

Germany knows the EU is going to fail....and they printed up more old trusty Deutschmarks for when it does collapse.
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We willnot be using gold?
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or are you saying weare going back on the gold standard, and all these dollars the Federal Reserve is stamping out is the equivalent of the gold we own, or are you saying wewill be, not on the gold standard, but on the "petro" standard?- and thatis why we havebeen killing everybody to get ther oil? Why am i shaking?
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anyone who says "austerity would be bad for growth" is close to not knowing what they are talking about. they need to elaboborate a little before they get the complete stupid label.
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Austerity is for the commoners, not for the gobernmants or the fiancial sectors such as banks, markets or the money printers.

It's the only way to control inflation in an individual state society that can't print it's own money like the U.S. The Euro can't be printed (individual states) so the only way to control inflation, in prices, is to remove money from the masses so that they have less of it to spend. Then you slow down any growth/inflation while the money printers (leaders of the eurozone like Dragi and others not the individual states themselves) print the illusion of the Eurozones banks back to solvency.

The inflation is created in the West and flows to the East because the US dollar is the defacto reserve currency.
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You know, I have a hard time believing that the European country with the strongest work ethic, most productive workforce, and most significant manufacturing base would have a hard time in a post-Euro currency world.
 Quoting: Dom Diputs


Germany would be happy to be released from the bondage chains of the EU and it's EURO.
It does nothing except cost them money and drag them down.
Anyone thinking Germany wants to save the EURO is kidding themselves.

Proof.........2 examples of many stories.

Germany Is Already Printing Money - Deutsche Marks
[link to seekingalpha.com]

Who Needs the Euro When You Can Pay With Deutsche Marks?
[link to online.wsj.com]
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


why would Germany do that, when the rest of the World is in a state of Gold Rush?

What does Germany know that the World doesnot?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1263824


I just explained why Germany would do that.
Taxpayers are sick and tired of bailing out the EU...and the EU being a drag on their economy.
Germany would be doing very well without the drag of the EU.

Germany knows the EU is going to fail....and they printed up more old trusty Deutschmarks for when it does collapse.
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While being well versed in Economic issues I must admit I haven't had much time for European research as of late...

What does everyone think Germany will do about the further sale of ECB bonds?!?!?

Personally I think they will end up blocking any further printing by the ECB, but my main reasoning behind that is because, I think the time they have chosen for the collapse is upon us...

But I'd like any opinions on the subject...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


research the exposure on derivates and its leverage of german banks...ull find why they want everyone inside euro...
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You know, I have a hard time believing that the European country with the strongest work ethic, most productive workforce, and most significant manufacturing base would have a hard time in a post-Euro currency world.
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Germany would be happy to be released from the bondage chains of the EU and it's EURO.
It does nothing except cost them money and drag them down.
Anyone thinking Germany wants to save the EURO is kidding themselves.

Proof.........2 examples of many stories.

Germany Is Already Printing Money - Deutsche Marks
[link to seekingalpha.com]

Who Needs the Euro When You Can Pay With Deutsche Marks?
[link to online.wsj.com]
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why would Germany do that, when the rest of the World is in a state of Gold Rush?

What does Germany know that the World doesnot?
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I just explained why Germany would do that.
Taxpayers are sick and tired of bailing out the EU...and the EU being a drag on their economy.
Germany would be doing very well without the drag of the EU.

Germany knows the EU is going to fail....and they printed up more old trusty Deutschmarks for when it does collapse.
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epic bsflag
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You know, I have a hard time believing that the European country with the strongest work ethic, most productive workforce, and most significant manufacturing base would have a hard time in a post-Euro currency world.
 Quoting: Dom Diputs


Germany would be happy to be released from the bondage chains of the EU and it's EURO.
It does nothing except cost them money and drag them down.
Anyone thinking Germany wants to save the EURO is kidding themselves.

Proof.........2 examples of many stories.

Germany Is Already Printing Money - Deutsche Marks
[link to seekingalpha.com]

Who Needs the Euro When You Can Pay With Deutsche Marks?
[link to online.wsj.com]
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


why would Germany do that, when the rest of the World is in a state of Gold Rush?

What does Germany know that the World doesnot?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1263824


I just explained why Germany would do that.
Taxpayers are sick and tired of bailing out the EU...and the EU being a drag on their economy.
Germany would be doing very well without the drag of the EU.

Germany knows the EU is going to fail....and they printed up more old trusty Deutschmarks for when it does collapse.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


i remeber ur epic bss on gold and silver threads...it is really fun to read ur bs for sheeples
go on
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You know, I have a hard time believing that the European country with the strongest work ethic, most productive workforce, and most significant manufacturing base would have a hard time in a post-Euro currency world.
 Quoting: Dom Diputs


Germany would be happy to be released from the bondage chains of the EU and it's EURO.
It does nothing except cost them money and drag them down.
Anyone thinking Germany wants to save the EURO is kidding themselves.

Proof.........2 examples of many stories.

Germany Is Already Printing Money - Deutsche Marks
[link to seekingalpha.com]

Who Needs the Euro When You Can Pay With Deutsche Marks?
[link to online.wsj.com]
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


why would Germany do that, when the rest of the World is in a state of Gold Rush?

What does Germany know that the World doesnot?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1263824


I just explained why Germany would do that.
Taxpayers are sick and tired of bailing out the EU...and the EU being a drag on their economy.
Germany would be doing very well without the drag of the EU.

Germany knows the EU is going to fail....and they printed up more old trusty Deutschmarks for when it does collapse.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Remember also, that Germany has been in the process of repatriating their gold from overseas...although they gave the US a wide time line, I think it was almost 2020, not sure...so if they have the gold and a solid economy to back a more sound deutsche mark than the rest of the EU and a falling euro, more power to them.

PM's may be down, because of recent short sales, but all central banks worldwide have been taking possession of PM's where they can get them, increasing long positions and not exporting any mined gold. IE., Russia and China are the primary entities working this model...
Definitely not made for this world--at least not this century.

...you are dangerous to everyone---not because you are ungifted, but because you embrace evil with your teachings. In so doing, in trying to be kind, to be unselfish, in trying to be nonjudgmental, you allow evil to become far more powerful than it otherwise would. You refuse to see evil, and so you welcome it among you. You allow it to exist. You give it power over you. You are a people who have welcomed death and refuse to denounce it. You are an empire naked to the shadow of evil. Terry Goodkind, NAKED EMPIRE
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While being well versed in Economic issues I must admit I haven't had much time for European research as of late...

What does everyone think Germany will do about the further sale of ECB bonds?!?!?

Personally I think they will end up blocking any further printing by the ECB, but my main reasoning behind that is because, I think the time they have chosen for the collapse is upon us...

But I'd like any opinions on the subject...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Many believe that in the end Germany will do anything to keep the euro alive because if it falls apart and the individual countries go back to their old currencies then Germany, with a very strong currency would be in trouble against all the other European currencies. Germany's export market would crumble. As much as Germany doesn't want to, they'll do everything they can to keep the EU together because that is cheaper than letting it collapse.

I don't know if this is true, but that seems to be a popular sentiment.
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I definitely think that is the conventional wisdom...whether it's wise or not remains to be seen.

I think that argument is a two-sided coin though, because I think Germany will demand collateral from these other countries before they allow any further printing...that is going to be a big sticking point.

Germany has tried twice in the last century to take over Europe Militarily...now it looks like they will get to do it without firing a shot...a lot of countries in Europe won't want to go along with that...

Not to mention the fact Germany is not on the same economic footing it was two years ago when all of this came up the first time...Their economy has been at a standstill for almost a year now...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


You're full of shit.

If countries don't want german money, then they should not take it. Got it.
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Hereis something everyone needs to study/know/learn. Without it youare stinking, dead meat on the highway:

Austerity Definition - It's Not What It Seems:
[link to www.youtube.com]

just go through this and iwill try to find something for the lower-level listeners, but go through it any way until i can get back here.

Our nightmare is far worse than we thought, and no one is in charge, but the lying, murdering insane, and theyare "insane".

The definition of "insane" is: not knowing right from wrong.
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Hello buddy!!
Been at a party having some fun.
I told you Dow Jones would go green today !!
Crazy fucking unbelievable world we live in.
Nothing make sense anymore???????(?
Goodnight my Portuguese friend

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