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HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??

 
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LOL!!!!!!

That is about the silliest request I can think of!

Just what kind of proof could someone possibly give you on the internet?!

LOL! LOL! and triple LOL!
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


So in other words you have no proof that the government is supposedly 50-500 years ahead (I love how you can't even pick a time frame)

Without even the slightest bit of proof your suggestion is akin to saying "magic"! You might as well say they have extra dimensional hyper-intelligent unicorns helping them. There's just as much evidence for that.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Different year range for different techs

this is the internet - there is NO way to prove anything as anything and everything can be faked in cyberspace

believe what you want
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Heres a thought, the military had invented the internet in 1969, Fact. Google it. The common people had no idea what the internet was until it was made available to them many decades later. There were even fictional books written about a universal encyclopedia such as the internet. Similar technologies could be out there that are too large scale for smaller groups of scientists to create such as the internet.
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Bad analogy that shows you really don't know what the internet was like then.
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Again, Prove it. I'll bet you can't.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


LOL!!!!!!

That is about the silliest request I can think of!

Just what kind of proof could someone possibly give you on the internet?!

LOL! LOL! and triple LOL!
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


So in other words you have no proof that the government is supposedly 50-500 years ahead (I love how you can't even pick a time frame)

Without even the slightest bit of proof your suggestion is akin to saying "magic"! You might as well say they have extra dimensional hyper-intelligent unicorns helping them. There's just as much evidence for that.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Different year range for different techs
lame cop-out

this is the internet - there is NO way to prove anything as anything and everything can be faked in cyberspace

believe what you want
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Why not? You obviously are. Again, you have no proof. Have fun with your extra dimensional hyper-intelligent unicorns!
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law
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NASA discovers NEW Van Allen Belt!

So, if we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about?

[link to science.nasa.gov]

...and how could we get through it safely on our way to the moon??


 Quoting: Just the facts!


It is transient and it merges with the, previously, outer belt.
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oh we definetly rolled the dice going to the moon with as little info as we had at the time (and still do) about what is beyond our atmosphere.

big risks we took for sure.
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YOU? Were you in the Apollo's cabin?
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NASA discovers NEW Van Allen Belt!

So, if we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about?

[link to science.nasa.gov]

...and how could we get through it safely on our way to the moon??

spock
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yeahsure
I don't know that it really matters.
I think the only thing to look forward, or pay attention to is current missions.
Anything else has been discussed over and over to the point of nausea.
Besides, theres other land-based conspiracies going on that req more attention.
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They don't make space suits like they used to...
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Yeah apparently we need some more of that space age late 60's technology!

What happened to us - did we just forget how to do stuff - I mean it's obvious that the computers we have now are shit compared to late 60's tech what with how they were able to program, pilot, land, blast off, re-couple and return to earth using total computing power of less than that of the average smartphone.

Hell, they even beamed back live coverage of the landing and take-off from the surface of the moon (I kinda feel sorry for the camera man who was left behind and is unknown and unsung in the history of our illustrious space program) while today we STILL get dropped cellphone calls and there is a patchwork of no cell coverage areas across the U.S.

Ditto with the micro meteorite defying anti radiation playtex space suits that could go from 253 F (123 C) in full sunlight to -243 F (153 C) in the shade without so much as any loss of surface plaibility or suit integrity let alone any noticeable discomfort to person wearing the suit.

Man these are the new dark ages.

(My thanks to Dave McGowan for his Wag the Moon Doggie Series! Look it up if you haven;t read it!!)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2836766


It is simply a matter of dollars. It took billions to get to the Moon. To do another Apollo program, just get there, doesn't make sense. The next step would be longer stays and more exploration. This would cost significantly more than the Apollo program. The political thought is that we cannot afford it. Cheaper to send unmaned craft to the Moon and the planets.

The antennas used during the Apollo landings are significantly larger than the antenna in you cell phone. The Goldstone antenna is 70 meters in diameter. When in use they were dedicated to just the Apollo program. A cell phone tower, on the other hand, handles thousands of calls simultaneously.

The Apollo astronauts did not go from 253F to -243F while they were on the Moon. They were on the surface for only a couple of days. The Sun angle was between 10 and 15 degrees above the horizon. The max temperature for that angle is around 90F, easily handled by the suits.
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What's worse, America's collective belief that we went to the moon or America's collective belief that terrorists were responsible for 911?
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What's worse is the BIGGEST lie is yet to come!
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You can't possibly STILL be falling for that hokey movie they made after hours in the 2001 studio! Go back to You Tube and watch all the real videos exposing the hoax, and the interviews with Stanley Krubreck's widow.
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We went to the dark side of the moon !!

We could not see a thing !!

5a
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why no moon rover?
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So, if we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about?
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 Quoting: Just the facts!


From what I can figure, if we knew what we don't know then we wouldn't not know it in the first place, so the answer must be 'nothing'.
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You can't possibly STILL be falling for that hokey movie they made after hours in the 2001 studio! Go back to You Tube and watch all the real videos exposing the hoax, and the interviews with Stanley Krubreck's widow.
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You mean the MOCKUMENTARY? You fell for that?
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You can't possibly STILL be falling for that hokey movie they made after hours in the 2001 studio! Go back to You Tube and watch all the real videos exposing the hoax, and the interviews with Stanley Krubreck's widow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35404860


You mean the MOCKUMENTARY? You fell for that?
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


No, no...the mockumentary was made about some fellow named KUBRICK. The poster is obviously thinking of someone different.
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NASA discovers NEW Van Allen Belt!

So, if we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about?

[link to science.nasa.gov]

...and how could we get through it safely on our way to the moon??

spock
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ummmm....we didn't really go?
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Had the astronauts spent a long time lingering in the Van Allen belt on their way then I'm sure the radiation would have had quite an effect on them.
Since they went through pretty quickly then there was no real effects.

Radiation+time=bad
Radiation+no time=not bad
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HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??

NASA discovers NEW Van Allen Belt!
 Quoting: Just the facts!

Who is this "we" you speak off?

So, if we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about?
 Quoting: Just the facts!

There's a lot more that we don't know then we do know.

...and how could we get through it safely on our way to the moon??
 Quoting: Just the facts!

Since none of the Apollo missions travelled through that region of space that is a non-question.

Space is 3D, the Belts are belts.
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HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??

NASA discovers NEW Van Allen Belt!
 Quoting: Just the facts!

Who is this "we" you speak off?

So, if we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about?
 Quoting: Just the facts!

There's a lot more that we don't know then we do know.

...and how could we get through it safely on our way to the moon??
 Quoting: Just the facts!

Since none of the Apollo missions travelled through that region of space that is a non-question.

Space is 3D, the Belts are belts.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Mmm, so you think the belts are 2 dimensional hey?

[link to images.yourdictionary.com]

spock

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What the general public does not understand is that the technology the gov't has and uses, ranges anywhere from 50 to 500 years ahead of what they, the common people, are allowed to know exists.
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Prove it. I'll bet you can't.

The problem with the government (or any other organization) supposedly having tech that far advanced is that technology does not develop in isolation. Advances in one field most often lead to advances in others. The sciences are related. For some group to have far advanced tech it begs the question how nobody else could happen upon similar advances.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Then explain the TRB3 and the recent declassified USAF Black ops saucer that they were trying to build in the 70ies
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HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??

NASA discovers NEW Van Allen Belt!
 Quoting: Just the facts!

Who is this "we" you speak off?

So, if we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about?
 Quoting: Just the facts!

There's a lot more that we don't know then we do know.

...and how could we get through it safely on our way to the moon??
 Quoting: Just the facts!

Since none of the Apollo missions travelled through that region of space that is a non-question.

Space is 3D, the Belts are belts.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Mmm, so you think the belts are 2 dimensional hey?

[link to images.yourdictionary.com]

spock
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Its pretty fucking simple, the main danger of the Van Allen belts are high-energy protons, which are not that difficult to shield against. And the Apollo navigators plotted a course through the thinnest parts of the belts and arranged for the spacecraft to pass through them quickly, limiting the exposure.
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Space is 3D, the Belts are belts.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Mmm, so you think the belts are 2 dimensional hey?
spock
 Quoting: Just the facts!

No.
I think they are belts, not spheres.

The answer to your question "and how could we get through it safely on our way to the moon" is that they didn't go through it.
To get to the Moon you don't have to orbit in the same plane as the Moon.
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What the general public does not understand is that the technology the gov't has and uses, ranges anywhere from 50 to 500 years ahead of what they, the common people, are allowed to know exists.
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Prove it. I'll bet you can't.

The problem with the government (or any other organization) supposedly having tech that far advanced is that technology does not develop in isolation. Advances in one field most often lead to advances in others. The sciences are related. For some group to have far advanced tech it begs the question how nobody else could happen upon similar advances.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Then explain the TRB3 and the recent declassified USAF Black ops saucer that they were trying to build in the 70ies
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35419939


neither use tech that nobody else has or can think of. They still use basic aerodynamic principles.
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HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??

NASA discovers NEW Van Allen Belt!
 Quoting: Just the facts!

Who is this "we" you speak off?

So, if we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about?
 Quoting: Just the facts!

There's a lot more that we don't know then we do know.

...and how could we get through it safely on our way to the moon??
 Quoting: Just the facts!

Since none of the Apollo missions travelled through that region of space that is a non-question.

Space is 3D, the Belts are belts.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Mmm, so you think the belts are 2 dimensional hey?

[link to images.yourdictionary.com]

spock
 Quoting: Just the facts!


Nope, they are belts and they chose a trajectory that took them AROUND the majority of them like I showed on the second page.




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What about Donald Rumsfeld? "There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don’t know we don’t know."
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What about the unknown knowns ?
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The problem with the government (or any other organization) supposedly having tech that far advanced is that technology does not develop in isolation. Advances in one field most often lead to advances in others. The sciences are related. For some group to have far advanced tech it begs the question how nobody else could happen upon similar advances.
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1/ There is just one group : the euro-american empire. World gov is a reality.
2/ It is not development and advancements so much as it is tech given to the shadow gov by the Aliums.
3/ Managing the different circles, from the public circle to the most totally far out there circle, takes mucho money and resources indeed, hence the current financial/criminal madness.
4/ Building up rationalizations as to why something isnt possible or likely, without having tested the hypothesis by its own rules (and inside the paradigm it belongs to) isn't sound reasoning. It's just an expression of bias, a mental immune system reacting to change induced by strange ideas.
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You might as well say they have extra dimensional hyper-intelligent unicorns helping them.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine

See ? Even you know it intuitively.
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how in the hell people fall for this moon landing crap is beyond me.
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I was a friend of Neil Armstrong's for 35 years. He went to the moon.
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how in the hell people fall for this moon landing crap is beyond me.
 Quoting: Brubaker


I was a friend of Neil Armstrong's for 35 years. He went to the moon.
 Quoting: Mr. Weird


You're responding to a full blown retard.
You might as well hold a discourse on astrophysics
at St. Claire's Mental Institution.

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