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HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??

 
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Re: HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??
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Who is this "we" you speak off?

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There's a lot more that we don't know then we do know.

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Since none of the Apollo missions travelled through that region of space that is a non-question.

Space is 3D, the Belts are belts.
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 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Mmm, so you think the belts are 2 dimensional hey?

[link to images.yourdictionary.com]

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Clearly the belts are 3D but that doesn't mean they thick and can't be easily gone around.
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Oh my, you have a lot of studying to do!

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No. You do. I understand the shape of the belts. You, on the other hand have a severe conceptual disability.
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Re: HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??
all i can say is i've seen better cgi

the movie making technology from moon landing wasn't the greatest... no offense to stanley kubrick...

wouldn't fool a four year old these days.

the mountains are clearly fake, the lunar module blasting off looks hilarious to me...(btw, who took the foto of it blasting off, can i ask? the astronaut who stayed behind on the moon to film it, then flew home like superman??)

the neverending story movie had better cgi...


no, i don't know how ppl swallow it either, especially supposedly smart scientists, but they do...

maybe it takes an art-person like me to see that it's clearly crap
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It is possible they sent a real mission only to find the crew dead, drifting endlessly in space once they hit that radiation belt.

First symptom would have been glitter vision (phosphene). The level of radiation they would have gotten is easily lethal in short time.
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The Saturn V Rocket burned 96% of its fuel in 10 minutes, reaching only 118 miles altitude.

With the remaining 4% of fuel, choices were quite limited.
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It is possible they sent a real mission only to find the crew dead, drifting endlessly in space once they hit that radiation belt.

First symptom would have been glitter vision (phosphene). The level of radiation they would have gotten is easily lethal in short time.
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So give some numbers then. How much radiation EXACTLY would they have received with the trajectory they took around the majority of the belts?
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The Saturn V Rocket burned 96% of its fuel in 10 minutes, reaching only 118 miles altitude.

With the remaining 4% of fuel, choices were quite limited.
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That was only the first two stages. It was a three stage rocket. The third stage sent the astronauts toward the Moon.
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The Saturn V Rocket burned 96% of its fuel in 10 minutes, reaching only 118 miles altitude.

With the remaining 4% of fuel, choices were quite limited.
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you almost had a point until you revealed you don't understand orbital mechanics or multi-stage rockets. The Saturn V had the necessary delta-v to get to the moon. The math works. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't work.
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Re: HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??
First symptom would have been glitter vision (phosphene). The level of radiation they would have gotten is easily lethal in short time.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--

So WHAT WAS THE LEVEL of radiation?

Why are hoaxies always so afraid of actual numbers?
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It is possible they sent a real mission only to find the crew dead, drifting endlessly in space once they hit that radiation belt.

First symptom would have been glitter vision (phosphene). The level of radiation they would have gotten is easily lethal in short time.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


So give some numbers then. How much radiation EXACTLY would they have received with the trajectory they took around the majority of the belts?
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


The mission with the largest dosage was Apollo 14 with a dosage of 1.14 rads.

[link to lsda.jsc.nasa.gov]

Since 25 rad is the lowest dose to cause clinically observable blood changes it is safe to say the astronauts were not affected by their trip.
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Re: HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??
NASA discovers NEW Van Allen Belt!

So, if we didn't know about this, what else don't we know about?

[link to science.nasa.gov]

...and how could we get through it safely on our way to the moon??

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Have you heard of Earths' 'Anti-Matter' Rings of 'Anti-Protons' [link to www.newscientist.com] ?



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The Saturn V Rocket burned 96% of its fuel in 10 minutes, reaching only 118 miles altitude.

With the remaining 4% of fuel, choices were quite limited.
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you almost had a point until you revealed you don't understand orbital mechanics or multi-stage rockets. The Saturn V had the necessary delta-v to get to the moon. The math works. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't work.
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It's about resistance, and at 118 miles altitude there's plenty.

Today's higher tech rockets can now do the 200 miles to reach the ISS
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By the way,the belt only lasted around a Month and was attributed to a Solar Prominence/Filament Ejection.

But I'd still contend there are issues with aspects of the Apollo Mission...ie. The Camera Film Protective Containers were made of Aluminum only and did not contain any Water etc. to help shield from Gamma Radiation.

Aluminum would only block Alpha/Beta Radiation so the Film should have been shot.

It wasn't,apparently.

Have I misinformed myself about the Films Protection?

Could be wrong.

Last Edited by Spittin'Cesium on 03/03/2013 07:51 PM
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Re: HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??
The Saturn V Rocket burned 96% of its fuel in 10 minutes, reaching only 118 miles altitude.

With the remaining 4% of fuel, choices were quite limited.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24508494


you almost had a point until you revealed you don't understand orbital mechanics or multi-stage rockets. The Saturn V had the necessary delta-v to get to the moon. The math works. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't work.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


It's about resistance, and at 118 miles altitude there's plenty.

Today's higher tech rockets can now do the 200 miles to reach the ISS
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And? Still You show no understanding of orbital mechanics or multi-stage rockets.
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Re: HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??
By the way,the belt only lasted around a Month and was attributed to a Solar Prominence/Filament Ejection.

But I'd still contend there are issues with aspects of the Apollo Mission...ie. The Camera Film Protective Containers were made of Aluminum only and did not contain any Water etc. to help shield from Gamma Radiation.

Aluminum would only block Alpha/Beta Radiation so the Film should have been shot.

It wasn't,apparently.

Have I misinformed myself about the Films Protection?

Could be wrong.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How much gamma is there? Do you realize that gamma is NOT blocked by the Van Allen belts? So any they might have encountered on the Moon (very low) is about the same as in low Earth orbit where they have taken pics with film since before man was in space.
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Re: HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??
how in the hell people fall for this moon landing crap is beyond me.
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What's worse, America's collective belief that we went to the moon or America's collective belief that terrorists were responsible for 911?
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Which is worse is of no importance.

They are both cuntardingly ridiculous beliefs.
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Re: HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??
By the way,the belt only lasted around a Month and was attributed to a Solar Prominence/Filament Ejection.

But I'd still contend there are issues with aspects of the Apollo Mission...ie. The Camera Film Protective Containers were made of Aluminum only and did not contain any Water etc. to help shield from Gamma Radiation.

Aluminum would only block Alpha/Beta Radiation so the Film should have been shot.

It wasn't,apparently.

Have I misinformed myself about the Films Protection?

Could be wrong.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How much gamma is there? Do you realize that gamma is NOT blocked by the Van Allen belts? So any they might have encountered on the Moon (very low) is about the same as in low Earth orbit where they have taken pics with film since before man was in space.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Gamma damages Film on Earth.

We've all seen it.

There is plenty of potential Gamma sources and a lot of time taken,all things considered...Where is the damage?

Do you know about the STS Film Protection experiments?

Here [link to ston.jsc.nasa.gov] .

Why not use the Hasselblads awesome design!?

Not once can I remember reading the Hasselblad mentioned?

I find that strange.

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Not sure why you shouted NOT at me?

I'm not totally fucking tarded.
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Mmm, so you think the belts are 2 dimensional hey?

[link to images.yourdictionary.com]

spock
 Quoting: Just the facts!


Clearly the belts are 3D but that doesn't mean they thick and can't be easily gone around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4126404


Oh my, you have a lot of studying to do!

spock
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No. You do. I understand the shape of the belts. You, on the other hand have a severe conceptual disability.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4126404


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...and how could we get through it safely on our way to the moon??
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Simple. It's not enough to be dangerous given Apollo's trajectory. It also does not suggest that the belts are more dangerous than we previously though; it was a temporary feature during a time when the outer belt was itself diminished.
"The shock wave scoured away much of the outer ring and then divided the remains into two distinct sections"
[link to www.scientificamerican.com]
That in no way implies a greater amount of total flux in the belts. In reality, there was a lower total flux during the period of time in which the new middle belt existed.

Here's the actual data from the probes. Part a. shows the normal, classic distribution of the van allen belts (what NASA would have expected in 1969):
[link to img831.imageshack.us]
Part b. shows a period of time where the outer belt had been depleted by the first shock wave, but at this point the distribution itself is still "classic" with a single inner belt and outer belt. Part c. shows the new distribution of the remaining electrons, which is now more diffuse and lower in flux than the classic distribution, but has a new gap within what used to be a single outer belt, thus there are now three belts instead of two. Part e. shows the annihilation of the outer belt region due to another shock wave. About a week later the distribution returned to the normal classic configuration seen in part a. due to another shock wave.

So no, not a problem for Apollo. If anything had this been the configuration of the belts during their departure for the moon or their return to earth, it would mean that they would have received even less of a dose than would otherwise be expected, and the normally expected dose given their trajectory and the areal density of their spacecraft (7~8 g/cm^2) was anything but dangerous:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]

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There is no belt in the moon studio, that's how...alien03
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Re: HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??
By the way,the belt only lasted around a Month and was attributed to a Solar Prominence/Filament Ejection.

But I'd still contend there are issues with aspects of the Apollo Mission...ie. The Camera Film Protective Containers were made of Aluminum only and did not contain any Water etc. to help shield from Gamma Radiation.

Aluminum would only block Alpha/Beta Radiation so the Film should have been shot.

It wasn't,apparently.

Have I misinformed myself about the Films Protection?

Could be wrong.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How much gamma is there? Do you realize that gamma is NOT blocked by the Van Allen belts? So any they might have encountered on the Moon (very low) is about the same as in low Earth orbit where they have taken pics with film since before man was in space.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Gamma damages Film on Earth.

We've all seen it.

There is plenty of potential Gamma sources and a lot of time taken,all things considered...Where is the damage?

Do you know about the STS Film Protection experiments?

Here [link to ston.jsc.nasa.gov] .

Why not use the Hasselblads awesome design!?

Not once can I remember reading the Hasselblad mentioned?

I find that strange.

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 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


you didn't answer the question. The amount in orbit is about the same as on the Moon. The old Corona spy satellites had no gamma protection. Gamma sources just aren't as common as you think they are. The shuttle had to "occasionally" (wording used in your report) deal with high energy radiation mainly because over the course of many missions it dealt with far more radiation than Apollo did. You still need to prove radiation would have been a problem on the relatively short Apollo missions. You haven't yet.

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By the way,the belt only lasted around a Month and was attributed to a Solar Prominence/Filament Ejection.

But I'd still contend there are issues with aspects of the Apollo Mission...ie. The Camera Film Protective Containers were made of Aluminum only and did not contain any Water etc. to help shield from Gamma Radiation.

Aluminum would only block Alpha/Beta Radiation so the Film should have been shot.

It wasn't,apparently.

Have I misinformed myself about the Films Protection?

Could be wrong.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How much gamma is there? Do you realize that gamma is NOT blocked by the Van Allen belts? So any they might have encountered on the Moon (very low) is about the same as in low Earth orbit where they have taken pics with film since before man was in space.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Gamma damages Film on Earth.

We've all seen it.

There is plenty of potential Gamma sources and a lot of time taken,all things considered...Where is the damage?

Do you know about the STS Film Protection experiments?

Here [link to ston.jsc.nasa.gov] .

Why not use the Hasselblads awesome design!?

Not once can I remember reading the Hasselblad mentioned?

I find that strange.

scratching
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


you didn't answer the question. The amount in orbit is about the same as on the Moon. The old Corona spy satellites had no gamma protection. Gamma sources just aren't as common as you think they are.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Did you read my Comment?

Read the PDFs' main thrust?
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By the way,the belt only lasted around a Month and was attributed to a Solar Prominence/Filament Ejection.

But I'd still contend there are issues with aspects of the Apollo Mission...ie. The Camera Film Protective Containers were made of Aluminum only and did not contain any Water etc. to help shield from Gamma Radiation.

Aluminum would only block Alpha/Beta Radiation so the Film should have been shot.

It wasn't,apparently.

Have I misinformed myself about the Films Protection?

Could be wrong.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


How much gamma is there? Do you realize that gamma is NOT blocked by the Van Allen belts? So any they might have encountered on the Moon (very low) is about the same as in low Earth orbit where they have taken pics with film since before man was in space.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Gamma damages Film on Earth.

We've all seen it.

There is plenty of potential Gamma sources and a lot of time taken,all things considered...Where is the damage?

Do you know about the STS Film Protection experiments?

Here [link to ston.jsc.nasa.gov] .

Why not use the Hasselblads awesome design!?

Not once can I remember reading the Hasselblad mentioned?

I find that strange.

scratching
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


you didn't answer the question. The amount in orbit is about the same as on the Moon. The old Corona spy satellites had no gamma protection. Gamma sources just aren't as common as you think they are. The shuttle had to "occasionally" (wording used in your report) deal with high energy radiation mainly because over the course of many missions it dealt with far more radiation than Apollo did. You still need to prove radiation would have been a problem on the relatively short Apollo missions. You haven't yet.
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Read [link to books.google.co.uk] .
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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How much gamma is there? Do you realize that gamma is NOT blocked by the Van Allen belts? So any they might have encountered on the Moon (very low) is about the same as in low Earth orbit where they have taken pics with film since before man was in space.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Gamma damages Film on Earth.

We've all seen it.

There is plenty of potential Gamma sources and a lot of time taken,all things considered...Where is the damage?

Do you know about the STS Film Protection experiments?

Here [link to ston.jsc.nasa.gov] .

Why not use the Hasselblads awesome design!?

Not once can I remember reading the Hasselblad mentioned?

I find that strange.

scratching
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


you didn't answer the question. The amount in orbit is about the same as on the Moon. The old Corona spy satellites had no gamma protection. Gamma sources just aren't as common as you think they are.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Did you read my Comment?

Read the PDFs' main thrust?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


The shuttle had to "occasionally" (wording used in your report) deal with high energy radiation mainly because over the course of many missions it dealt with far more radiation than Apollo did. You still need to prove radiation would have been a problem on the relatively short Apollo missions. You haven't yet.
How many of the thousands upon thousands of pictures from the shuttle had gamma radiation damage? Very few. How many entire missions had no appreciable radiation damage on the film? Most of them.

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How much gamma is there? Do you realize that gamma is NOT blocked by the Van Allen belts? So any they might have encountered on the Moon (very low) is about the same as in low Earth orbit where they have taken pics with film since before man was in space.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Gamma damages Film on Earth.

We've all seen it.

There is plenty of potential Gamma sources and a lot of time taken,all things considered...Where is the damage?

Do you know about the STS Film Protection experiments?

Here [link to ston.jsc.nasa.gov] .

Why not use the Hasselblads awesome design!?

Not once can I remember reading the Hasselblad mentioned?

I find that strange.

scratching
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


you didn't answer the question. The amount in orbit is about the same as on the Moon. The old Corona spy satellites had no gamma protection. Gamma sources just aren't as common as you think they are. The shuttle had to "occasionally" (wording used in your report) deal with high energy radiation mainly because over the course of many missions it dealt with far more radiation than Apollo did. You still need to prove radiation would have been a problem on the relatively short Apollo missions. You haven't yet.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Read [link to books.google.co.uk] .
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


You can google but I'll bet you don't understand it. It is talking about a very low flux rate that would be dangerous to long term missions and colonies due to cumulative exposure. Hilarious that you're trying to say they didn't go to the Moon and using data discovered because they did go to try to prove it.
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Gamma damages Film on Earth.

We've all seen it.

There is plenty of potential Gamma sources and a lot of time taken,all things considered...Where is the damage?

Do you know about the STS Film Protection experiments?

Here [link to ston.jsc.nasa.gov] .

Why not use the Hasselblads awesome design!?

Not once can I remember reading the Hasselblad mentioned?

I find that strange.

scratching
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


you didn't answer the question. The amount in orbit is about the same as on the Moon. The old Corona spy satellites had no gamma protection. Gamma sources just aren't as common as you think they are. The shuttle had to "occasionally" (wording used in your report) deal with high energy radiation mainly because over the course of many missions it dealt with far more radiation than Apollo did. You still need to prove radiation would have been a problem on the relatively short Apollo missions. You haven't yet.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Read [link to books.google.co.uk] .
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


You can google but I'll bet you don't understand it. It is talking about a very low flux rate that would be dangerous to long term missions and colonies due to cumulative exposure. Hilarious that you're trying to say they didn't go to the Moon and using data discovered because they did go to try to prove it.
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You think I'm stupid.

You total plonker.
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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And by the way - I haven't stated we did not go to the Moon.

If you were not so preoccupied with the Title of the Thread you'd maybe understand what I am trying to say.

Name check,yes.
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And by the way - I haven't stated we did not go to the Moon.

If you were not so preoccupied with the Title of the Thread you'd maybe understand what I am trying to say.

Name check,yes.
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You appear to be trying to argue the photos should have been damaged by radiation. The title asks how we got there if we didn't know about some belt (that we went around anyway). It was posted by someone else but you're on this thread. If you haven't stated it you're strongly implying it. Maybe others would understand what you're trying to say if you just came out and said it instead of trying to play games.

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Re: HOW did we get to the MOON if we didn't know about this??
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you didn't answer the question. The amount in orbit is about the same as on the Moon. The old Corona spy satellites had no gamma protection. Gamma sources just aren't as common as you think they are. The shuttle had to "occasionally" (wording used in your report) deal with high energy radiation mainly because over the course of many missions it dealt with far more radiation than Apollo did. You still need to prove radiation would have been a problem on the relatively short Apollo missions. You haven't yet.
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Read [link to books.google.co.uk] .
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


You can google but I'll bet you don't understand it. It is talking about a very low flux rate that would be dangerous to long term missions and colonies due to cumulative exposure. Hilarious that you're trying to say they didn't go to the Moon and using data discovered because they did go to try to prove it.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


You think I'm stupid.

You total plonker.
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I didn't say that and I didn't think it. I do now. Typically those that resort to ad hominems do so because they have run out of everything else.

You still haven't answered how much gamma you think they would have been dealing with. Posting sources without comment just shows you can google.

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