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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26082444 United States 03/01/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All this speak of hellfire and damnation and inciting fear in others. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1500023 it is only through love and compassion and empathy that we can witness to others, not through fear. Those who live in fear and anger are already in 'hell'. You do not know God. The trials and tribulations will be great. It is the times as before the flood. There are only two options as the wheat is separated from the chaff. You either accept the Kingdom of the one true God through his Son Jesus Christ or you will fall victim to the kingdom of satan or be beheaded. If all he is consists of lies and losses then guess what he has for you. The mind will be tormented as a disembodied demon that died in the flood attempts to overtake your flesh and cause you to fall down take the mark and worship the halfman/half beast sphinx image. Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way Please get ready for the coming of the Son of Man. I do know God. You know little about me or my testimony. There are few Christian brothers and sisters on here who do. This last generation is the evil generation Christ spoke of. Why? Simply it is because they reject his calling and eternal love. These are the endtimes and unfortunately the perspective of the lukewarm and unsaved is such that the only love they know is the love in pursuits of the flesh. If you do not prepare for the coming of the Son of Man, then you will be in a greater position of fear and dread. Read Revelation 6 and then 7 to see what the collective mind will see when he appears. This is the time of the three days of darkness as consistent with the Son of Man descending into hell and the Sign of Jonah with three days in the dark belly of a whale. The state of affairs in this world is just as Father said. The hearts of men have turned cold. You are an anonymous coward and know very few on this site. You want to learn what is going then join GLP. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33904047 Canada 03/01/2013 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The karmic debts one aquires through unjust actions can only be rectified by walking a higher path. This is the greatest deception within the Christian faith. Jesus died for truth and your bad karma will not go away because a master comes into the world. Stop reading the watered down versions of his teachings. Buddha offered a complete teaching and so did esus. That dark church in Rome make the teaching fear based and now we have 1.2 billion christians following beliefs that have been modified by Rome. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1500023 United States 03/01/2013 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "This last generation is the evil generation" ... "These are the end times" ... Riight. They've been saying that for more than a thousand years, dude. You sound EXACTLY like someone I knew, who I crossed out of my life. He was a fervent bible thumper, always casting judgment, and hell fire damnation on those who didn't believe as he believed. He killed himself 2 years ago; died of chronic alcoholism. Turns out he was embezzling money from his aunt who had alzheimers. Anyone who professes to fervently know God while casting judgment on others for not believing as they do IS the hypocrite the Jesus warned us about. I do know God. You know little about me or my testimony. There are few Christian brothers and sisters on here who do. This last generation is the evil generation Christ spoke of. Why? Simply it is because they reject his calling and eternal love. These are the endtimes and unfortunately the perspective of the lukewarm and unsaved is such that the only love they know is the love in pursuits of the flesh. If you do not prepare for the coming of the Son of Man, then you will be in a greater position of fear and dread. Read Revelation 6 and then 7 to see what the collective mind will see when he appears. This is the time of the three days of darkness as consistent with the Son of Man descending into hell and the Sign of Jonah with three days in the dark belly of a whale. Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way The state of affairs in this world is just as Father said. The hearts of men have turned cold. You are an anonymous coward and know very few on this site. You want to learn what is going then join GLP. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21057428 United States 03/01/2013 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Angelic_Warrior I'm not so much sorry for what I said as I am the way it came out. I know what I meant but it should not have been said merely because it was so easy to pounce upon, thus given footing to the enemy (I am referring to my "fly on the wall" comment). Sometimes my fingers type faster than my brain engages. As far as the rest of your comment, yes we embrace different beliefs. So you just worded it wrong? You feel bad because you gave the enemy something to call you out on? So following Jesus example does not matter? It is his free pass into heaven that saves you but sends me to hell? I used to believe that way too. I John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. I walked away from the church because I believe it is corrupt. I am sure you can find a verse to back up everything you believe. You go ahead and judge me all that you want. Jesus warns against it. You might be surprised to know that I don't belong to, or attend any church either. But, I did not throw the Bible and Jesus away with the church. You have to separate the baby from the bath water. And, there are some very good christian churches out there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22439663 United States 03/01/2013 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The karmic debts one aquires through unjust actions can only be rectified by walking a higher path. This is the greatest deception within the Christian faith. Jesus died for truth and your bad karma will not go away because a master comes into the world. Stop reading the watered down versions of his teachings. Buddha offered a complete teaching and so did esus. That dark church in Rome make the teaching fear based and now we have 1.2 billion christians following beliefs that have been modified by Rome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33904047 Well said. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21057428 United States 03/01/2013 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The karmic debts one aquires through unjust actions can only be rectified by walking a higher path. This is the greatest deception within the Christian faith. Jesus died for truth and your bad karma will not go away because a master comes into the world. Stop reading the watered down versions of his teachings. Buddha offered a complete teaching and so did esus. That dark church in Rome make the teaching fear based and now we have 1.2 billion christians following beliefs that have been modified by Rome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33904047 Well said. |
completejigsaw User ID: 35390524 Argentina 03/01/2013 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lisa*Lisa, thank you. Just one thing. He will not be called ´Jesus´, for how could He? By doing that He is cutting himself off from so many. He is also outside of the church, both being above and below, for His function has to be to unite all. The time is VERY close and that is why the Pope resigned. It will be disclosed, I believe, before the election of the next Pope. Please tell everyone that the world has changed. The day before yesterday I travelled to Argentina and there were NO CRUSHES to get on and off the plane!!! Everyone was saying, áfter you´!!! When the plane arrived the air crew had to usher the passengers off because they were being so slow! In the media the fear has gone and has been replaced by LOVE! Listen to the words of the songs, for they are messages for these times. Thank Godness Believe in ´HIM´as ´HE´believes in you Bless you Stephen X |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22439663 United States 03/01/2013 05:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663 So you just worded it wrong? You feel bad because you gave the enemy something to call you out on? So following Jesus example does not matter? It is his free pass into heaven that saves you but sends me to hell? I used to believe that way too. I John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. I walked away from the church because I believe it is corrupt. I am sure you can find a verse to back up everything you believe. You go ahead and judge me all that you want. Jesus warns against it. You might be surprised to know that I don't belong to, or attend any church either. But, I did not throw the Bible and Jesus away with the church. You have to separate the baby from the bath water. And, there are some very good christian churches out there. Actually I guess that is something we agree on. I looked for a church that I believed was following the narrow path, but gave up after several disappointments. I do go when I am at home visiting my mother. I just believe that they distorted Jesus life and example. He came to show us the way, I believe he was telling us that we didn't need the church, that god was with us and not something outside of us to worship. I see Jesus as a brother and mentor. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26070956 United States 03/01/2013 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "This last generation is the evil generation" ... "These are the end times" ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1500023 Riight. They've been saying that for more than a thousand years, dude. You sound EXACTLY like someone I knew, who I crossed out of my life. He was a fervent bible thumper, always casting judgment, and hell fire damnation on those who didn't believe as he believed. He killed himself 2 years ago; died of chronic alcoholism. Turns out he was embezzling money from his aunt who had alzheimers. Anyone who professes to fervently know God while casting judgment on others for not believing as they do IS the hypocrite the Jesus warned us about. I do know God. You know little about me or my testimony. There are few Christian brothers and sisters on here who do. This last generation is the evil generation Christ spoke of. Why? Simply it is because they reject his calling and eternal love. These are the endtimes and unfortunately the perspective of the lukewarm and unsaved is such that the only love they know is the love in pursuits of the flesh. If you do not prepare for the coming of the Son of Man, then you will be in a greater position of fear and dread. Read Revelation 6 and then 7 to see what the collective mind will see when he appears. This is the time of the three days of darkness as consistent with the Son of Man descending into hell and the Sign of Jonah with three days in the dark belly of a whale. Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way The state of affairs in this world is just as Father said. The hearts of men have turned cold. You are an anonymous coward and know very few on this site. You want to learn what is going then join GLP. AC, You do not know me, and comparing me to anything in your false life is a poor assumption on your part and tells me you have no ability to discern the spirit. The conversing with you is as nauseating as the serpent mind posts of Anhedonic. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21057428 United States 03/01/2013 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Angelic_Warrior I John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. I walked away from the church because I believe it is corrupt. I am sure you can find a verse to back up everything you believe. You go ahead and judge me all that you want. Jesus warns against it. You might be surprised to know that I don't belong to, or attend any church either. But, I did not throw the Bible and Jesus away with the church. You have to separate the baby from the bath water. And, there are some very good christian churches out there. Actually I guess that is something we agree on. I looked for a church that I believed was following the narrow path, but gave up after several disappointments. I do go when I am at home visiting my mother. I just believe that they distorted Jesus life and example. He came to show us the way, I believe he was telling us that we didn't need the church, that god was with us and not something outside of us to worship. I see Jesus as a brother and mentor. Well, that's partly right, we don't need the church and God is with us when we ask Him to come into our lives and forgive us of our sins. That's true....... When we are baptized with the Holy Spirit then God's spirit does dwell within us. That is true. But, we are to worship God as He is divine, almighty and Holy. The Bible teaches us what we need to know about Him and how to live a life that is acceptable to Him. Jesus is very much more then a mentor, He was God in the flesh and He came here to pave the way to heaven for us humans. He died so that we can live eternally. He is our God. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21057428 United States 03/01/2013 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's define worship because I think some people get hung up on that word. Worship is trust, love, adoration, appreciation, humility....what else? Anyone else want to add to that list? Let's understand that God does not need our worship to be complete. We benefit from worship becasue when we worship God, we are drawn closer to Him, our relationship with Him is elevated. Worship helps us.......not the other way around. Satan became satan because he would not worship God. He wanted to be his own God, therefore he made himself God's adversary. Many people today also do this. As the creator of heaven and earth, God is entitled to hold this position and He is entitled to our worship, or love, trust, appreciation and adoration. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13039567 United States 03/01/2013 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Angelic_Warrior I'm not so much sorry for what I said as I am the way it came out. I know what I meant but it should not have been said merely because it was so easy to pounce upon, thus given footing to the enemy (I am referring to my "fly on the wall" comment). Sometimes my fingers type faster than my brain engages. As far as the rest of your comment, yes we embrace different beliefs. So you just worded it wrong? You feel bad because you gave the enemy something to call you out on? So following Jesus example does not matter? It is his free pass into heaven that saves you but sends me to hell? I used to believe that way too. I John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. I walked away from the church because I believe it is corrupt. I am sure you can find a verse to back up everything you believe. You go ahead and judge me all that you want. Jesus warns against it. Many churches and pastors are corrupt, like the Catholic church just to name one. However, that does not mean the Word of God is corrupt. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21057428 United States 03/01/2013 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Angelic_Warrior I John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. I walked away from the church because I believe it is corrupt. I am sure you can find a verse to back up everything you believe. You go ahead and judge me all that you want. Jesus warns against it. You might be surprised to know that I don't belong to, or attend any church either. But, I did not throw the Bible and Jesus away with the church. You have to separate the baby from the bath water. And, there are some very good christian churches out there. Actually I guess that is something we agree on. I looked for a church that I believed was following the narrow path, but gave up after several disappointments. I do go when I am at home visiting my mother. I just believe that they distorted Jesus life and example. He came to show us the way, I believe he was telling us that we didn't need the church, that god was with us and not something outside of us to worship. I see Jesus as a brother and mentor. What denomination church did you attend? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35339902 Norway 03/01/2013 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27211004 Have read bible through 2xs times. Study it daily. Request you show me the spefific verses that back what you say. If you dont know where they are just say so instead of your snooty answer. Not a "snooty" answer, it was the truth. I had to stop by this because I have not been certain. I have wondered what comes first. Heart or the prayer. Can we pray to God and then He will give us a heart for Him ?. Or may be one who not already has a heart for Him, would not even bother to begin praying?. Interesting question, and I think it really comes down to a persons intent. If you're praying to win the lotto and become rich, then you don't have a heart for Him, but a heart only for yourself. If you're praying for guidance and to get to know God, then you have a heart for Him. Does that make any sense? Thank you so much. Yes somehow. But if a person pray to God for whatever reason, at least that person hope there is a God. Wouldn't God then in some way let him/her know that he is real, and thus make them interested at least. After a while this could inspire them to pray for more understanding, which God of course would impart to them. If this would lead to the belief in Jesus and the need for repentence and salvation, is dependent upon if they will accept that God gives them a new heart for it, as I see it. From His standpoint and His rightousness and justice, I believe He want to try every possibility even if He knows in advance that it may be impossible that they will accept His gift. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26079826 United States 03/01/2013 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's define worship because I think some people get hung up on that word. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa Worship is trust, love, adoration, appreciation, humility....what else? Anyone else want to add to that list? Let's understand that God does not need our worship to be complete. We benefit from worship becasue when we worship God, we are drawn closer to Him, our relationship with Him is elevated. Worship helps us.......not the other way around. Satan became satan because he would not worship God. He wanted to be his own God, therefore he made himself God's adversary. Many people today also do this. As the creator of heaven and earth, God is entitled to hold this position and He is entitled to our worship, or love, trust, appreciation and adoration. We are asked to love God with all our heart and soul. When that happens all things fall into place. What was the greatest commandment of all? I remember in my teens I prayed to God for the wisdom of Solomon. He woke me up years later one night and He said, The wisdom of Solomon will not be replicated. Pray for my love. You see what he values? This is why the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. To find his love is to go past the fear and embrace the true light. The lies of this flesh flee God and over time when you get to know him through his Son the meaning of worship truly changes to warmth, love and understanding. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21057428 United States 03/01/2013 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had to stop by this because I have not been certain. I have wondered what comes first. Heart or the prayer. Can we pray to God and then He will give us a heart for Him ?. Or may be one who not already has a heart for Him, would not even bother to begin praying?. Interesting question, and I think it really comes down to a persons intent. If you're praying to win the lotto and become rich, then you don't have a heart for Him, but a heart only for yourself. If you're praying for guidance and to get to know God, then you have a heart for Him. Does that make any sense? Thank you so much. Yes somehow. But if a person pray to God for whatever reason, at least that person hope there is a God. Wouldn't God then in some way let him/her know that he is real, and thus make them interested at least. After a while this could inspire them to pray for more understanding, which God of course would impart to them. If this would lead to the belief in Jesus and the need for repentence and salvation, is dependent upon if they will accept that God gives them a new heart for it, as I see it. From His standpoint and His rightousness and justice, I believe He want to try every possibility even if He knows in advance that it may be impossible that they will accept His gift. Well, I believe He knocks on the door to our heart throughout our entire lives. He puts people in our paths all the time. He's always knocking. Some open the door and let Him in, and some do not. But, I believe He keeps on knocking until the person's heart is either hard as stone or dead. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 21057428 United States 03/01/2013 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's define worship because I think some people get hung up on that word. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa Worship is trust, love, adoration, appreciation, humility....what else? Anyone else want to add to that list? Let's understand that God does not need our worship to be complete. We benefit from worship becasue when we worship God, we are drawn closer to Him, our relationship with Him is elevated. Worship helps us.......not the other way around. Satan became satan because he would not worship God. He wanted to be his own God, therefore he made himself God's adversary. Many people today also do this. As the creator of heaven and earth, God is entitled to hold this position and He is entitled to our worship, or love, trust, appreciation and adoration. We are asked to love God with all our heart and soul. When that happens all things fall into place. What was the greatest commandment of all? I remember in my teens I prayed to God for the wisdom of Solomon. He woke me up years later one night and He said, The wisdom of Solomon will not be replicated. Pray for my love. You see what he values? This is why the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. To find his love is to go past the fear and embrace the true light. The lies of this flesh flee God and over time when you get to know him through his Son the meaning of worship truly changes to warmth, love and understanding. +10000 Wonderful! |
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Terrebonne User ID: 35389935 United States 03/01/2013 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh please. Jesus had about as much to do with "saving" these people as Luke Skywalker and the Incredible Hulk. Quoting: SkepticalWordSmith The King James Bible was translated by Rosicrucian's, Masons; or in other words occultist. We have all be duped. Francis Bacon and the KJV I'm going to start with a number of quotes from people who pretend to be Christians from whom we know are occultists all putting Sir Francis Bacon and another Rosicrucian, Robert Fludd on the translation committee of the King James Version. [link to www.cephas-library.com] INFJ; We are the protectors. |
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