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What Happens After You Die: THE Geography of the AFTERLIFE & The LAWS of SPIRITUALITY: Authored From the OHTER SIDE!!

 
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In a nutshell:


These are genuine messages recieved from the other side:

•Hellfire is not a permanent place for people with corrupted souls. It is temporary. Once the soul serves its time in Hellfire, it is returned back to the higher realms. If anybody tells you hellfire and banishment to hell is permanent and for infinity, they are lying because they have an agenda to screw with your mind. Its not the way spiritual nature works. Look around you, study nature, study your own mind, and you will know that infinite hellfire banishment is a LIE.

•Once a soul reaches the 6th realm of spiritual vibration, it cannot go back down to the lower realms. Meaning, once your soul vibrates to a higher spiritual realm, it never needs to go back to the hellish lower realms.
Therefore all those myths about 'fallen angels' are suspect.
A high level "angel" can never fall down to lower realms again. Meaning, its a myth to probably convey the impression that the demons of the lower realms to whom the elite worship, are of very high status , spiritually, while in reality they are actually pretty low.

•As souls become darker and darker, they attain super-human powers. This is something like how people who are vengeful with extreme hatred, seem almost impossible to put down. Like how people with extreme hatred, and anger are so scary and dominating. THe lower you fall, the more poewerful you become on a NEGATIVE realm. This probably explains why demons and satanic entities have superhuman powers of manifestation.
The same happens on the opposite side; the positive side. The more positive vibrations your soul exudes, the more powerful it becomes in a nice way.

•When the percentage of evil souls on Earth reach a threshold, a POLE SHIFT IS CREATED.
This alters the consciousness of the human race, eliminates 75% of humanity, and reboots the world.
Thread: Metaphysical-World -( Part 1 ): Earth's Secret History: The Poussin Code : ( 33° ) A Shift in Earths Axis Means a Shift in YOUR Consciousness
THIS IS GODS LAW


THERE IS NO RELIGION IN THE SPIRIT WORLD.

THERE ARE ONLY SPIRITUAL LAWS.

THERE IS NO SATAN AS AN OPPOSING OPPOSITE FORCE OF GOD.

THERE IS ONLY GOD (Universal Awareness).

Only GODS (Universal Awareness) loving vibrantly powerful positive energy exists all over the universe. It was the positive loving energy of GOD (Universal Awareness) that created the Universe from the time of its genesis.
A dark opposing force never existed. It was the loving consciousness of GOD (Universal Awareness) all the time, everywhere, omnipresent, omnipotent!!
Satan, Lucifer are nothing but human souls gone evil and stuck in the lower darker realms.

Meaning;
WE CREATED SATAN AND THE DEVIL !!!!
Satan and Devil are nothing but human souls gone BAD!!
They are a sub-set creation of the 1st system of human spirit existence.
(Basically what it means is all evil human vibrations found their way to a particular vibrating density.)
(See REALM systems below in the next post)
"
The hellish levels of the Astral Plane do not exist as God's means of eternal punishment. They exist because humanity created them by heinous deeds and emotions. One of the universal laws is "Like attracts like." When we focus our attention on savage actions, thoughts, and feelings, we
create a level of existence that resonates with our savagery-thus, the hellish region.
"
from:
[link to www.pathwaytoascension.com]


Dark energies from the 1st Realm (HELLHOLE) entice and corrupt human souls to give them their energies, so as to drag down as many human souls to realm #1.
Life on Earth is a filtration and purification of your soul.
Its always maitained so that there will be strife and chaos.
This is like a training school.
God (Universal Awareness) and the angellic spirits can at ANY TIME clean up this world and make it a heaven, but it is not meant for that.
Human physical bodies are like a dress worn by spirits.

Helping Evil in any way lowers your karma.
Example:
Watching a Madonna ritual or a Beyonce show , knowing fully well that those are SATANIC rituals , yet giving them your psychic energies are a CRIME AGAINST GOD!!
Joining a satanic cult, knowing full well the evil occult nature beforehand.




The NDE and Afterlife Realms
Kevin Williams' Research Conclusions

[link to www.near-death.com]

[link to www.afterlifetv.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]



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WARNING!
The contents of this thread can either harm your psyche, or your mind can find it exhilarating.
Either way it requires that you read it in a stable frame of mind. If you are emotionally disturbed, or in any way not in your stable mind frame,or under the influence of drugs, I advice you to stablilize your mind before opening this thread.



I hesitated many a day prior to posting this. Reason is I find the contents not easy (for ME) to handle. I find myself rebelling at the very idea of my actions being monitored. I find that oppressive. The threat of a deep dark hell for spirutal misdeeds, creates a deep fear psychosis, and only makes me want to rebel more, at the same time being frightening enough to make you want to withdraw into a shell. There is only so much the conscious mind can grasp. In the end I decided to post it because some of the ideas presented here can actually help you in your life. SOUL WORK is an interesting concept to the dumbed down conscious mind, and Im quite taken by the idea of spending an hour each week just standing in the city making myself available for people in need. An hour a day giving food to the homeless, and aiding people is enough to make you glow and feel good and all 'spirrr-chal' inside!
Take this as you will. And if you think its interesting, help keep the thread bumped up until many people get to see it.
-abhie


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The idea that life continues after the death of the physical body is one that the great majority of peoples who came before us on this planet took very seriously. It was a subject they were not afraid to talk and think about with all the energy, imagination, and intellect they possessed.
That I believe, is what it should be for us today as well. Not because we owe the people of the past anything in terms of what we do or don't believe, but simply because now as then, life and death remain the twin poles of our existence. To fail to learn how to think properly about the life that awaits us in the world beyond this one is to hamper our ability to think about and negotiate the life each one of us is living right here and now. It is, if you really get down to it, to doom ourselves to living only half the life we really could be living.

-The Modern Book of the Dead: A Revolutionary Perspective on Death, the Soul, and What Really Happens in the Life to Come [Hardcover]
by Ptolemy Tompkins
[link to www.amazon.com]




"Thou shalt find to the left of the House of Hades a Well-spring,
And by the side thereof standing a white cypress.
To this Well-spring approach not near.
But thou shalt find another by the Lake of Memory,
Cold water flowing forth, and there are Guardians before it.
Say: 'I am a child of Earth and of Starry Heaven;
But my race is of Ouranos. [1] This ye know yourselves.
And lo, I am parched with thirst and I perish. Give me quickly
The cold water flowing forth from the Lake of Memory.'
And of themselves they will give thee to drink from the holy Well-spring,
And thereafter among the other Heroes thou shalt have lordship..."

(Prolegomena to the Study of Greek Religion by Jane Ellen Harrison, 1903; found in the 1991 Princeton Univ. Press edition, New Jersey USA, on pp. 659-660.)






You will not be able to understand your spiritual side as much as you would, as when you are standing at the brink of life and death. Until then, humans tend to avoid analysing the nature of their spiritual origins.
-Abhie on GLP ;)

"
Whether you begin as a Christian, a Buddhist, Quantum Physicist or a simple seeker of knowledge beyond current understanding, moving outside of the constructs of your current ways of thinking is imperative to discovery."

[link to www.amazon.com]



[Following is based on the various books on the after-life, countless reports on NDE's (Near Death Experience) but especially the book by Khorshed Bhavanagri, The Laws of the Spiritual World. The book was 'authored' by her two sons, Vispi and Ratoo who were killed in a car accident near Mumbai, back in 1980. The spirit of the two sons contacted their mother , Khurshed, and eventually managed to train her into recieving messages via 'automatic writing'. The book is the end result of many sessions of these sittings.
The author, Khorshed Bhavanagri, died in 2007.
May her soul and the souls of her family be in peace.
And thank you Khorshed, Rumi, Vispi & Ratoo, for that life changing book. May eternal peace be yours.
]

BOOK: The Laws of the Spiritual World.
Author: Khorshid Bhavanagri, channeled by her sons, Vispi & Ratoo.
Khurshid's home site:
[link to www.vrrpspirituallearning.com]
YT Vid: [link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.amazon.com]

Like Khorshid says:
Karma
Karma is not a punishment – it is the law of learning...

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art by Slytel on Deviant Art.




GEOGRAPHY OF THE AFTERLIFE:



Imagine if you will, that about 100 children need to be surveyed, classified for special character aspects, and tested for a list of personality traits under a special 2 year project of which you are part.The children will live and work within a specially 'sealed' building, which they will not be able to leave, nor be able to communicate with anyone from the outside. Within the building , the children will be in a community atmosphere, where a fake plastic
currency is introduced. Jobs are created where children can buy stuff, trade things. The children are encouraged to explore spirituality, and they create faiths and belief sects based on the belief system they create.
It is not the intent of the creators of the project to create a special heaven or paradise for the children on the inside. The building is a testing ground, a training ground, and a purification ground all in one. All the gold money in there is worthless.
One more thing: Before the children begin their project, all memories of their outside life, their true home on the outside , their true parents are all cloaked from their memory. They open their eyes into a new reality inside the training campus.


Welcome to Earth.
Your school and training ground to polish your soul energy.

Spiritual energy is all there is.
All matter, eventually disolves back into its spiritual energy state.Everything in this universe has a spiritual energy.You have heard of swords having a spirit, or the spirit of the sword.You assign names to your car or bike, and treat it like a real person. This is the spirit of your car. Houses & living spaces have a certain spiritual energy. So spiritual energy is all there is. Matter is a projection or condensation of these vibrating spiritual energy emanations. Your spiritual state of being is your default state. Our spiritual home is very very ancient and is beautiful, much more beautiful than life here on Earth. Every soul has a home on the spiritual plane, and this home is very beautiful, surrounded by vibrantly beautiful gardens. Life as a spirit means you do not have a physical body , but since spiritual energy is what creates matter, you do not need a body. This spiritual body is more real than your physical body.Time scales in your spirit nature is slightly different from the one in your physical nature.
The purpose of every spirit living in the spirit realms, is to improve their spiritual energy and move up the spiritual ladder to higher realms and higher vibrations.


Spiritual energy needs to be PURE. It can only exist in a pure state. Intermixing of spirit vibratory energy levels are not possible.
Therefore, different soul vibrations fall into different categories. This is the same way particles vibrate to sound and create patterns. The soul pattern of a spectrum ranging from pure evil to pure GOODNESS spread themselves along a range of SEVEN different SPIRITUAL RELAMS.

There are 7 Spiritual realms or 7 realms of existence.

Each realm has 10 stages.
So each realm looks like this;

Example;
REALM #4
stage 1
stage 2
stage 3
stage 4
stage 5
stage 6
stage 7
stage 8
stage 9
stage 10


and so on for each of the 7 Realms.

Each realm is invisible to the other.
For example on Realm 1 you will not be able to see realm 2 or any of the other realms. Life on these realms is as real as life on planet Earth. Every soul starts off creative life on Realm # 4 stage 5. From this neutral state, its upto the soul to carve its destiny to move up , or down.
Most souls keep yo-yoing up and down until they reach the final stage: Realm 7, stage 10. Once a soul unit completes Realm 7 stage 10, they exit these 7 Realm system, and take birth onto a new dimensional level.

Tibetian thangka painting showing the different realms of spiritual existence.
thangka1

REALM #1:

This is the lowest of all the realms.
This realm , the one we call HELL , was not created by God, but by humans themselves.
Basically it works like this;
All human actions , positive or negative vibrate on 7 different vibratory planes, the ones we call realms. Thus the negative vibrations created their own realm. Its a natural phenomenon. Its like oil and water don't mix. Oil exists in its own state and water in its own state.

So negative human vibrations, created three different planes based on the degree of their evil and negativity. These are the lower 3 Realms. Realm 1 , Realm 2, and Realm 3.

Realm 1 is dark. Pitch dark. No light coming in. Bare rocks, disfigured humans with animal heads and grotesqueness. All the demons and gargoyles that you see the illuminati worshiping arise from these depths.
These entities have heavy set bodies. If you note all the ugly creatures in video games have such bodies, gargantuan, heavy and ugly. Life forms in this plane have dark energies which the Illuminati, Madonna, and all the luciferian
sects woship, in the hope that these energies will give them wealth and prosperity. The consequences of this is too heavy a price.

This is where human spirits who are extremely evil will descend to. Working ones way out of this demonic realm is not easy.

If you get re-birthed in this realm, chances are that your soul gets corrupted by these entities, and it would take you at least a thousand years, many rebirths, to get out.
Entities on this level do not like anybody trying to leave Realm 1. For them more the merrier, so they do all they can to prevent you from leaving. If they feel your soul is getting better, then they will corrupt you so it makes leaving all the more tuff. At any time if you cannot handle this realm, you can pray that you be rescued, and you will be given choices to make up for all the evil karma that you need to pay off.

Re-birthing as a beast of burden is the most popular. You are reborn as an oxen or bull, and have to work all your life, while retaining FULL memories of your past lives. Once you die as a bull, then you get re-birthed onto a higher Realm.

dwnarwsml


REALM #2
Also a horrible place, no light, pitch darkness, but entities have bodies lighter than those on Realm 1. Lots of hatred and disease. People use filthy language and a lot of negative energies congregate here. Attempting to quit this realm is made all the more difficult as peer entities
here do not like anybody trying to progress up ward.

dwnarwsml


REALM #3
Also dark, very little light. Foggy and heavy atmosphere. All humans on this plane look old and diseased. Bad feeling and negative energies all around. New souls that arrive here are captured and retained as slaves.

dwnarwsml

REALM #4
A go-between Realm. Much like Earth. Night and day exists. Souls are birthed here to begin their soul journey. Its up to the individual soul to move up or down. Earth lies somewhere in this realm, probably on stage 7 or 9.
This is the realm which mixes in both negative and positive energies. Earth is a testing and purification ground. As such it is like a soul-school.Spirit entities can make Earth heaven at any moment they want. But the aim is to use Earth as a testing ground. You take birth here and improve your soul. If you do good, then your soul moves up, if it becomes evil, then it sinks to the lower realms.

dwnarwsml

REALM #5
This is the begining of 'heaven'. Take the most beautiful place on Earth, and thats about how it looks all around. Vibrations are higher, as such bodies are much lighter. Souls help each other, and the general atmosphere is of peace and happiness.

dwnarwsml

REALM #6
Paradise magnified. Gardens, waterfalls, you name it. Bright soothing light. Light radiant every body have youthful beautiful bodies.Once you reach Realm 6, your vibrations will be such that your soul will never sink down back to the three lower realms again. Its like you graduated, and never need to go back again. Unless that is you want to enter those realms as a spirit in order to help a poor soul or help guide someone.
In this case you are supplied with an invisibility cloak, so that negative vibrations will not affect you.

dwnarwsml

REALM #7
This is the highest of the base system. The beauty of this realm cannot be described.
The soul energy here is so pure that there is such bright beauty and love.
From this realm if you take rebirth on Earth, and you sin, then you will go down only as far as Realm 5 or Realm 6 , from where you work your way back up to 7.Once you reach stage 10 on this realm, you are out of there, onto the next dimensional existence. Each of the 7 Realms have a HIGH GOOD SOUL who is the overseer of that realm.

There is one MOST HIGH GOOD SOUL that overseas ALL the 7 Realms.



Travel well my friend!!

The 7 Realms of Spirit Vibrations
We Humans are on Realm # 4.5 (approximately, and to the best of my understanding) :

DOWN & DOWN & DOWN & DOWN WE GO...!!!!!

realm1
realm2
realm3
realm4
realm5

And take a look at this:
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[link to www.pixhost.org]


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LAWS OF SPIRITUALITY:


My Notes from Khorshid's book:

Spirits can take rebirth according to their own freewill.

Before re-birthing on planet Earth, spirits consult the High Good Soul of their realm, along with two or three spirits from their own realm. Its only when everybody agrees that rebirth occurs.

Re-birthing takes place once the decision is complete.

The fetus in the womb has an awake sub-conscious.

The spirit can abort the re-birth at anytime during pregnancy.
If the spirit aborts, then another spirit takes its place.

A spirit can abort a re-birth if it feels that the current environment is not suitable for its rebirth.

A spirit can abort re-birth upto a year AFTER birth based upon its analysis of its current parents.

Which means for about a year after birth , the spirit within the baby is watching YOU, its parents, to make a decision!!

Spirits take birth for 3 reasons:
1. To pay off bad karma
2. To help and protect another person
3. To ascend upward to higher realms by improving karma.



You can choose where and when you are born.
You can also choose where and when you die.

Both birth and death are pre-planned before re-birth.

You can avoid being birthed on the lower realms by taking birth as a beast of burden.
This pays off some of your karma in one lifetime.

High wealth and political power on Earth does not mean the human is a high spirit on a higher realm.
Homeless beggars can sometimes be higher spirits than ruling kings.

Looks, wealth and social position have nothing to do with spiritual quality.
A soul from Realm 7 can move around as a homeless wanderer, and you wouldn't know he is a high soul.

Earth is a training ground, where bad souls should become good, good souls become very good, and evil souls should improve, by changing their evil ways and adopting good.

You have three bodies;
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SPIRIT BODY,
ASTRAL BODY, and
HUMAN BODY.


The ASTRAL body is the go between body between the physical human body and the Spirit body.

The astral body will be clothed in a likeness of your Earthly clothes and attire.

When you die, you cut the connecting cord to your human body and are in your astral body for a few days. Soon when you become accustomed to your spirit environs, you discard the astral body and get back to your original spirit body.

Some people when they do great evil and die, are aware that they will be ported to the lower hell realms. So in order to avoid the punishment, then choose to avoid transiting to the spirit world, and remain in the astral body roaming Earth for as long as they can. These are what we call GHOSTS and apparitions.

Remaining in you astral body is a choice given by God. But by doing so, you accumulate negative karma. The sooner you discard the astral body , accept your spirit body and the consequences of you action the better it is for the spirit.


There are 3 parts to your mind:

THE PHYSICAL CONSCIOUS MIND
THE SUBCONSCIOUS MIND
& the
SPIRIT MIND.



The physical mind is like a pendrive and is assigned to you at the time of re-birth.
Once you die, the physical mind is disconnected and is eliminated.
The sub-conscius mind is the overseer. The part of the Universe that knows your soul.
It helps the physical mind to steer itself during its existence both in the spirit world, as well as the physical world. During the first few years after birth, until the baby can speak, the sub-conscious mind is awake and takes care of the baby.

Once you grow up, the choice to keep the sub-conscious awake and guiding you, is left to YOU.

Meaning the more you listen to your sub-conscious, the more awake and active it is.

But most times people tend to ignore the warnings and communications from their sub-conscious.

So after a time, the sub-conscious that is constantly ignored, develops a hard psychic shell, then goes to sleep then completely becomes silent, waking up only after death of the person.

Thus, the sub-conscious becomes dormant due to being constantly ignored.

Its your duty to keep your sub-conscious mind awake and guiding you.

IF you have a dormant sub-conscious, you can awaken it by praying to God, and asking for re-activating of your sub-conscious.

You can also help activate your sub-conscious by practising silent meditation daily.
This way you will quieten your mind, still your body, and listen.
Doing this daily will help re-awaken your sub-conscious.

Having your sub-conscious work with you during your earthly existence is a huge bonus,as it can help steer your soul away from negative karma and descending down to the lower realms.

It is not God that punishes you by putting you into the lower 3 realms, but your sub-conscious.
The sub-conscious is like the universal energy that is attached to you. It keeps watch over your souls activities.

Every night while you sleep, the sub-conscious makes notes in the Akashic records of your activities of the day.
These akashic records are eternal and remain forever.

Every soul is taken care of by its sub-conscious and a spirit guide.

A spirit guide is assigned when a soul takes birth.

This is usually a freind or a loved one.

If the sub-conscious becomes dormant in a person, then the spirit guide has to do all the care-taking work.


Past life memories are not revealed to a person after birth. These memories are cloaked and invisible.

The reason is that if the memories of past life experiences become open the person's conscious mind may not be able to handle it.

This is also why your real nature and your true home, your spirit home is not revealed.
Reason is the memories of the very beautiful spirit home can leave you feeling wretched on this your earthly abode.

Suicide is a sin. God gives you the freedom to take your own life. He also gives you the freedom to do evil. But that doesn't mean you should.

People who suicide are downgraded to one realm lower than their previous one.
This is dangerous as that lower realm can further corrupt the soul.
After the soul gets back to the same realm as he or she was when they committed suicide, the same circumstances are created, albeit in double the proportion of intensity.
This is to strengthen the soul.



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Free pdf books to download:
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1.
Books by Allan Kardec
THe spirits world
by Allan Kardec
[link to www.geae.inf.br]

2.
Heaven and Hell
Divine Justice Vindicated in the Plurality of Existences

by Allan Kardec
[link to www.geae.inf.br]




EDIT:
Excerpt from Allan Kardec's book, The Spirits World, reposted again from page #4 of this thread:


Following is part of a channeled session by Allan Kardec, from his book, The Spirits Book. Page #63
Free download above.



1. What is God?
"God is the Supreme Intelligence-First Cause of all things."¹

2. What is to be understood by infinity?
"That which has neither beginning nor end; the unknown: all that is unknown is infinite.''

3. Can it be said that God is infinity?
"An incomplete definition. Poverty of human speech incompetent to define what transcends
human intelligence."

[God is infinite in His perfections, but "infinity" is an abstraction. To say that God is infinity is to
substitute the attribute of a thing for the thing itself, and to define something unknown by reference to
some other thing equally unknown.
]

4. What proof have we of the existence of God?
"The axiom which you apply in all your scientific researches, 'There is no effect without a
cause.' Search out the cause of whatever is not the work of man, and reason will furnish the
answer to your question."

[To assure ourselves of the existence of God. we have only to look abroad on the works of creation. The
universe exists, therefore It has a cause. To doubt the existence of God is to doubt that every effect has a
cause, and to assume that something can have been made by nothing.]


5. What is to be inferred from the intuition of the existence of God which may be said to be
the common property of the human mind?

"That God exists; for whence could the human mind derive this intuition if it had no real
basis? The inference to he drawn from the fact of this intuition is a corollary of the axiom.
'There Is no effect without a cause.'"


6. May not our seemingly intuitive sense of the existence of God be the result of education and of acquired ideas?
"If such were the case, how should this intuitive sense be possessed by your savages?"
[If the intuition of the existence of a Supreme Being were only the result of education It would not be universal, and would only exist, like all other acquired knowledge, in the minds of those who had received
the special education to which it would be due.]


7. Is the first cause of the formation of things to be found in the essential properties of
matter?

"If such were the case, what would be the cause of those properties? There must always be a
first cause."

[To attribute the first formation of things to the essential properties of matter, would be to take the effect
for the cause, for those properties are themselves an effect, which must have a cause.]


8. What is to be thought of the opinion that attributes the first formation of things to a
fortuitous combination of matter, in other words, to chance?

"Another absurdity! Who that is possessed of common sense can regard chance as an
intelligent agent? And, besides, what is chance? Nothing."

[The harmony which regulates the mechanism of the universe can only result from combinations adopted
in view of predetermined ends,and thus, by its very nature, reveals the existence of an Intelligent Power. To attribute the first formationof things to chance is nonsense for chance cannot produce the results of intelligence. If chance could beintelligent, it would cease to be chance.]

9. What proof have we that the first cause of all things is a Supreme Intelligence, superior to all other intelligences?
"You have a proverb which says, 'The workman is known by his work.' Look around you,
and, from the quality of the work, infer that of the workman."

[We judge of the power of an intelligence by its works as no human being could create that which is
produced by nature, it is evident that the first cause must be an Intelligence superior to man.
Whatever may be the prodigies accomplished by human intelligence, that intelligence itself must have a
cause and the greater the results achieved by it, the greater must be the cause of which it is the effect. It is
this Supreme Intelligence that is the first cause of all things, whatever the name by which mankind may designate it.]

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cool story bro, i'll wait for the movie to come out
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OP, what you said reminded me of the Iluvatar from LOTR.
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Links:

How different religions view the afterlife:
[link to www.victorzammit.com]

The NDE and Afterlife Realms
Kevin Williams' Research Conclusions

[link to www.near-death.com]


[link to www.afterlife101.com]

Articles on afterlifetv.com
[link to www.afterlifetv.com]

Allan Kardec
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.paganspath.com]

The various realms of spirit
by Mark Macy
[link to www.worlditc.org]

LIFE IN THE WORLD UNSEEN
[link to anthony3741.tripod.com]

[link to www.dlshq.org]
What Becomes Of The Soul After Death
By Sri Swami Sivananda

Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeons' journey into the afterlife
[link to www.youtube.com]

The Afterlife in Films
[link to www.sbs.com.au]

Heaven and Hell, According to Various Religions.
[link to www.neatorama.com]

Ptolemy Tompkins
The Modern Book of the Dead: A Revolutionary Perspective on Death, the Soul, and What Really Happens in the Life to Come [Hardcover]
[link to www.amazon.com]

Basic Metaphysics 101
Your Inner Spiritual Journey
Nancy B. Detweiler, M.Ed., M.Div.
[link to www.pathwaytoascension.com]

Religion in Ancient Egypt
[link to www.crystalinks.com]

The Scientifically Proven Reality of Life After Death
[link to www.wholejoy.com]

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in5d Metaphysical, Spiritual and Esoteric Database

In 5 D dot com

in5d Connection- Conscious, Co-Creators - connect with your soul group; find your soulmate! [link to www.in5d.net]

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Beware with channelled information. It may come from good entities but also from bad as well.

I'm for a long time been inside the happenings of the spiritual world. No such thing as "GOOD SOULS IN HEAVEN ARE DECREASING!!!!
MORE GOOD SOULS BEING CORRUPTED TO EVIL." In fact, "GOOD" SOULS ARE INCREASING!!!!!

Do you know Allan Kardec OP?!
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Free pdf books to download:

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THe spirits world
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Yes,you know him :D
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Free pdf books to download:

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[link to www.geae.inf.br]

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Yes,you know him :D
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Beware with channelled information. It may come from good entities but also from bad as well.

I'm for a long time been inside the happenings of the spiritual world. No such thing as "GOOD SOULS IN HEAVEN ARE DECREASING!!!!
MORE GOOD SOULS BEING CORRUPTED TO EVIL." In fact, "GOOD" SOULS ARE INCREASING!!!!!

Do you know Allan Kardec OP?!
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Not according to the newest of channellings.
Good souls are decreasing.

If you read the book by Khorshed she mentions the dangers of automatic writing. SHe mentions how to take precautions.

Lets face it: CHANNELLINGS are a phenomenon.
Just like good and bad people, there are good and bad channellings.
YOu can't generalize ALL channellings as BAD , same way you can't generalize ALL people are BAD.

YOu need to do a bit of ground work , filter out the trash, then focus on what you think is the real deal.

cheers
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Look after Francisco Candido Xavier, aka Chico Xavier, one of the greatest mediums the world knew. Has a lot of channelings about afterlife. Great SOUL.
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One more point:

ALl souls at the time of their creation are split into TWO!
They are split into opposites. A MALE and A FEMALE>

Which means ALL people have a soulmate.
Sometimes the feeling of rampant loneliness you face is you missing your soul mate.

Soul mates need to wait until both soul parts can TOGETHER EXIT REALM #7 TOGETHER.

If one soul has sunk to the lower realms, then the soul mate has to wait until the counterpart catches up. This is done so that each soul will have a motive for ascending. You always want to be with your soul mate. So you naturally hasten to work your way up.

Being with you soul-mate together is ecstasy UNLIMITED!!!

Peace and Love
hf
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Beware with channelled information. It may come from good entities but also from bad as well.

I'm for a long time been inside the happenings of the spiritual world. No such thing as "GOOD SOULS IN HEAVEN ARE DECREASING!!!!
MORE GOOD SOULS BEING CORRUPTED TO EVIL." In fact, "GOOD" SOULS ARE INCREASING!!!!!

Do you know Allan Kardec OP?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35366997


Not according to the newest of channellings.
Good souls are decreasing.

If you read the book by Khorshed she mentions the dangers of automatic writing. SHe mentions how to take precautions.

Lets face it: CHANNELLINGS are a phenomenon.
Just like good and bad people, there are good and bad channellings.
YOu can't generalize ALL channellings as BAD , same way you can't generalize ALL people are BAD.

YOu need to do a bit of ground work , filter out the trash, then focus on what you think is the real deal.

cheers
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Ground work? LOL Started 10 years ago.I advanced A LOT since then and I'm ALWAYS searching and wanting to learn more,absorve knowledge.We do not know ALL things and still learning after this life and so on. I'm not generalizing. I read channelings but I always try to discern the message. Beware the FEAR. FEAR blocks your development. All messages which make you FEAR, I discard them. Not useful.
There are maaaaaaaany around the web that are "false prophets",that's why I tell you BEWARE.
hf
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One more point:

ALl souls at the time of their creation are split into TWO!
They are split into opposites. A MALE and A FEMALE>

Which means ALL people have a soulmate.
Sometimes the feeling of rampant loneliness you face is you missing your soul mate.

Soul mates need to wait until both soul parts can TOGETHER EXIT REALM #7 TOGETHER.

If one soul has sunk to the lower realms, then the soul mate has to wait until the counterpart catches up. This is done so that each soul will have a motive for ascending. You always want to be with your soul mate. So you naturally hasten to work your way up.

Being with you soul-mate together is ecstasy UNLIMITED!!!

Peace and Love
hf
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About this,seen to many people saying different things about this.

"QUESTION (30) Dear Kryon: Can you explain the difference between the terms soul mate and twin flame?

ANSWER These represent different energies, but similar attributes. Both indicate a partnership. A soul mate is a partner for life. It does not have to be a romantic one. It can be mother and daughter, or two unrelated people who team up for whatever reason. And yes, it can also be romantic. Therefore, it is a partnership energy.

The energy of a twin flame is one that's your mirror-image energy. A twin flame is one who finds the "other half" of what it is seeking in purpose. Twin-flame energy isn't necessarily a partnership issue like a soul mate is. It's more about coming together to fulfill a wholeness that's missing in potential or purpose.

A soul mate might be a partnership that's good for life, but it may not result in anything else. A twin flame has purpose behind it, driving toward a goal. Let me give you real-world examples. Your past leader Ronald Regan has a soul mate called Nancy. But the discovers of the DNA structure, Watson and Crick, were twin flames.

Sometimes twin flames are also together in love, but even if they are, that's convenient for the bigger picture... something to be accomplished together. Soul mates exist together for joy and life extension. Twin flames exist together to accomplish something that neither could do alone. They also can be both! When that happens, it's really obvious.

(From Lee: Please see Kryon Book Six, page 333, for a similar discussion. Also, Kryon gives references to St. Germain's work regarding twin-flame energy.)" [link to kryon.com]
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One more point:

ALl souls at the time of their creation are split into TWO!
They are split into opposites. A MALE and A FEMALE>

Which means ALL people have a soulmate.
Sometimes the feeling of rampant loneliness you face is you missing your soul mate.

Soul mates need to wait until both soul parts can TOGETHER EXIT REALM #7 TOGETHER.

If one soul has sunk to the lower realms, then the soul mate has to wait until the counterpart catches up. This is done so that each soul will have a motive for ascending. You always want to be with your soul mate. So you naturally hasten to work your way up.

Being with you soul-mate together is ecstasy UNLIMITED!!!

Peace and Love
hf
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[link to spiritualharmonics.blogspot.pt] This one really explains it very weel too.
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Thank you Portugal for the comments and the link.
Will check it out.

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GOOD SOULS IN HEAVEN ARE DECREASING!!!!
MORE GOOD SOULS BEING CORRUPTED TO EVIL.

This has happned before.
When the number of evil souls on Earth reach a climax number, a POLE SHIFT IS CREATED.
This alters the consciousness of the human race, eliminates 75% of humanity, and reboots the world.


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the threshold has already been reached and the decision taken at higher spiritual layers. now the process unfolds towards physical manifestation.
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OP, you say...

1. "Helping evil in anyway lowers your karma."

2. "I'm quite taken by the concept of spending an hour each week just standing in the city making myself available for people in need. An hour a day giving food to the homeless, and aiding people is enough to make you glow and feel good and all 'spirrr-chal' inside!"


Which is it? Considering most homeless people are evil, lost in their addictions, mental problems, and crime...why would you want to help them. Very few homeless people are "good people" vibrating on a higher level in the scheme of things.
That "glow" and "feel good energy" from helping someone is just like a drug, and isn't anyway to valuate your life. Eventually you'll wear thin from helping others, and be used by those you help. It happens all the time. I've known volunteers who had items stolen, were mugged, raped, and even killed by homeless people they went out of their way to help.
You really can't help anyone IMO, helping someone is an illusion. People have to help themselves.
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Thank you Portugal for the comments and the link.
Will check it out.

hf
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It's a pleasure to share knowledge hf


Spirit - Our natural condition.
Material - Only temporary.

We are spiritual beings having a human experience and NOT humans having a spiritual experience.

hf
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OP, you say...

1. "Helping evil in anyway lowers your karma."

2. "I'm quite taken by the concept of spending an hour each week just standing in the city making myself available for people in need. An hour a day giving food to the homeless, and aiding people is enough to make you glow and feel good and all 'spirrr-chal' inside!"


Which is it? Considering most homeless people are evil, lost in their addictions, mental problems, and crime...why would you want to help them. Very few homeless people are "good people" vibrating on a higher level in the scheme of things.
That "glow" and "feel good energy" from helping someone is just like a drug, and isn't anyway to valuate your life. Eventually you'll wear thin from helping others, and be used by those you help. It happens all the time. I've known volunteers who had items stolen, were mugged, raped, and even killed by homeless people they went out of their way to help.
You really can't help anyone IMO, helping someone is an illusion. People have to help themselves.
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Good question.
This is not true. Not all homeless people are evil.
Like I mentioned, a homeless person could be a higher soul than you are, yet you wouldn't be aware of it.

Helping people is okay, so long as you do it without a selfish motive. If you unknowingly help an evil person,that too is pass. But if you help a person homeless or millionaire, KNOWING FULL WELL he is EVIL, then that is a soul crime, one which lowers your karma.

Helping people is okay and good. Make sure you keep your motive un-selfish. The book mentions scores of temple-donators in India being banished to the lower realms , because their motivation for helping and donating money was selfish, and with a need to wipe out their bad karma which is not allowed up in the spirit world.

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OP, you say...

1. "Helping evil in anyway lowers your karma."

2. "I'm quite taken by the concept of spending an hour each week just standing in the city making myself available for people in need. An hour a day giving food to the homeless, and aiding people is enough to make you glow and feel good and all 'spirrr-chal' inside!"


Which is it? Considering most homeless people are evil, lost in their addictions, mental problems, and crime...why would you want to help them. Very few homeless people are "good people" vibrating on a higher level in the scheme of things.
That "glow" and "feel good energy" from helping someone is just like a drug, and isn't anyway to valuate your life. Eventually you'll wear thin from helping others, and be used by those you help. It happens all the time. I've known volunteers who had items stolen, were mugged, raped, and even killed by homeless people they went out of their way to help.
You really can't help anyone IMO, helping someone is an illusion. People have to help themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35351591



"Helping Evil in any way lowers your karma.
Example: Giving money to evil people or assisting them in any way will bring you down to the lower realms of existence."


So by helping homeless people you are bringing yourselF down to the lower realm of existence where they live and reside at. You just contradicted yourself OP. People have to help themselves. Giving them food, money, your time is only hurting yourself in the long run. Also having "PRIDE" OR "FEELING GOOD" because you helped a poor unfortunate soul out also lowers your energy to their level.

Try again OP since you just contradicted yourself.
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A lot of research here, thank you Abhie.

Not that I agree with it all! Actions are good or bad or neither. People are all of Divine Origin, and will return to the Source. Karma is not lowered, it is activated in its positive or negative phase; and this perfect Law works always for us. Returning millions of years through our spiritual evolution to the animal kingdom would make no sense, it doesn't happen through karma, we have more consciousness and more mental abilities than them, I love animals as I do all life but stand by this view.

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OP, you say...

1. "Helping evil in anyway lowers your karma."

2. "I'm quite taken by the concept of spending an hour each week just standing in the city making myself available for people in need. An hour a day giving food to the homeless, and aiding people is enough to make you glow and feel good and all 'spirrr-chal' inside!"


Which is it? Considering most homeless people are evil, lost in their addictions, mental problems, and crime...why would you want to help them. Very few homeless people are "good people" vibrating on a higher level in the scheme of things.
That "glow" and "feel good energy" from helping someone is just like a drug, and isn't anyway to valuate your life. Eventually you'll wear thin from helping others, and be used by those you help. It happens all the time. I've known volunteers who had items stolen, were mugged, raped, and even killed by homeless people they went out of their way to help.
You really can't help anyone IMO, helping someone is an illusion. People have to help themselves.
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Hey brother,homeless people EVIL?!?!?!You're evil if you have an addiction?!?!?!?!!? OMG... Did the church tell you that?!Please....Don't generalise...If people don't want help,fine!There are others who need it desperatly and that doesn't mean people should stop helping each other!!!! Those "evil" people onde day will learn the lesson in the hardest way. Karma never fails.
"LOVE moves mountains."
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OP, you say...

1. "Helping evil in anyway lowers your karma."

2. "I'm quite taken by the concept of spending an hour each week just standing in the city making myself available for people in need. An hour a day giving food to the homeless, and aiding people is enough to make you glow and feel good and all 'spirrr-chal' inside!"


Which is it? Considering most homeless people are evil, lost in their addictions, mental problems, and crime...why would you want to help them. Very few homeless people are "good people" vibrating on a higher level in the scheme of things.
That "glow" and "feel good energy" from helping someone is just like a drug, and isn't anyway to valuate your life. Eventually you'll wear thin from helping others, and be used by those you help. It happens all the time. I've known volunteers who had items stolen, were mugged, raped, and even killed by homeless people they went out of their way to help.
You really can't help anyone IMO, helping someone is an illusion. People have to help themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35351591


Good question.
This is not true. Not all homeless people are evil.
Like I mentioned, a homeless person could be a higher soul than you are, yet you wouldn't be aware of it.

Helping people is okay, so long as you do it without a selfish motive. If you unknowingly help an evil person,that too is pass. But if you help a person homeless or millionaire, KNOWING FULL WELL he is EVIL, then that is a soul crime, one which lowers your karma.

Helping people is okay and good. Make sure you keep your motive un-selfish. The book mentions scores of temple-donators in India being banished to the lower realms , because their motivation for helping and donating money was selfish, and with a need to wipe out their bad karma which is not allowed up in the spirit world.
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clappa

Just want to add: the purpose is what really counts! In the end,altruism or egoism.
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OP, you say...

1. "Helping evil in anyway lowers your karma."

2. "I'm quite taken by the concept of spending an hour each week just standing in the city making myself available for people in need. An hour a day giving food to the homeless, and aiding people is enough to make you glow and feel good and all 'spirrr-chal' inside!"


Which is it? Considering most homeless people are evil, lost in their addictions, mental problems, and crime...why would you want to help them. Very few homeless people are "good people" vibrating on a higher level in the scheme of things.
That "glow" and "feel good energy" from helping someone is just like a drug, and isn't anyway to valuate your life. Eventually you'll wear thin from helping others, and be used by those you help. It happens all the time. I've known volunteers who had items stolen, were mugged, raped, and even killed by homeless people they went out of their way to help.
You really can't help anyone IMO, helping someone is an illusion. People have to help themselves.
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"Helping Evil in any way lowers your karma.
Example: Giving money to evil people or assisting them in any way will bring you down to the lower realms of existence."


So by helping homeless people you are bringing yourselF down to the lower realm of existence where they live and reside at. You just contradicted yourself OP. People have to help themselves. Giving them food, money, your time is only hurting yourself in the long run. Also having "PRIDE" OR "FEELING GOOD" because you helped a poor unfortunate soul out also lowers your energy to their level.

Try again OP since you just contradicted yourself.
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Read the post above yours again.

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A lot of research here, thank you Abhie.

Not that I agree with it all! Actions are good or bad or neither. People are all of Divine Origin, and will return to the Source. Karma is not lowered, it is activated in its positive or negative phase; and this perfect Law works always for us. Returning millions of years through our spiritual evolution to the animal kingdom would make no sense, it doesn't happen through karma, we have more consciousness and more mental abilities than them, I love animals as I do all life but stand by this view.

hf
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Please read the Spiritual Laws section again.
You do not KEEP returning back to your animal states again and again.
Once you reach REALM #6, your subconscious does NOT allow you to descend further down than 4.
So there is a kind of upgrading that prevents you from repeating cycles all over again.
This is an intelligent system I guess.
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OP, you say...

1. "Helping evil in anyway lowers your karma."

2. "I'm quite taken by the concept of spending an hour each week just standing in the city making myself available for people in need. An hour a day giving food to the homeless, and aiding people is enough to make you glow and feel good and all 'spirrr-chal' inside!"


Which is it? Considering most homeless people are evil, lost in their addictions, mental problems, and crime...why would you want to help them. Very few homeless people are "good people" vibrating on a higher level in the scheme of things.
That "glow" and "feel good energy" from helping someone is just like a drug, and isn't anyway to valuate your life. Eventually you'll wear thin from helping others, and be used by those you help. It happens all the time. I've known volunteers who had items stolen, were mugged, raped, and even killed by homeless people they went out of their way to help.
You really can't help anyone IMO, helping someone is an illusion. People have to help themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35351591


Good question.
This is not true. Not all homeless people are evil.
Like I mentioned, a homeless person could be a higher soul than you are, yet you wouldn't be aware of it.

Helping people is okay, so long as you do it without a selfish motive. If you unknowingly help an evil person,that too is pass. But if you help a person homeless or millionaire, KNOWING FULL WELL he is EVIL, then that is a soul crime, one which lowers your karma.

Helping people is okay and good. Make sure you keep your motive un-selfish. The book mentions scores of temple-donators in India being banished to the lower realms , because their motivation for helping and donating money was selfish, and with a need to wipe out their bad karma which is not allowed up in the spirit world.
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Homeless people are in a negative hell hole on the wrong side of the tracks because they have addictions, mental problems, involved in crime/prostitution/etc, have money troubles, and they lack awareness/responsibility/maturity. There is no homeless people who are "higher souls" IMO. A higher soul may be delt a bad card, but could easily find their way out of such a homeless situation and rise above the alley ways and ghettos. It's up to them to get out of the frequency/vibration they ended up in...nobody else can do it for them..

Many homeless who are given luxuries and loads of money always end up back on the street eventually if they still remain ignorant.. helping them is a disservice to them.
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OP, you say...

1. "Helping evil in anyway lowers your karma."

2. "I'm quite taken by the concept of spending an hour each week just standing in the city making myself available for people in need. An hour a day giving food to the homeless, and aiding people is enough to make you glow and feel good and all 'spirrr-chal' inside!"


Which is it? Considering most homeless people are evil, lost in their addictions, mental problems, and crime...why would you want to help them. Very few homeless people are "good people" vibrating on a higher level in the scheme of things.
That "glow" and "feel good energy" from helping someone is just like a drug, and isn't anyway to valuate your life. Eventually you'll wear thin from helping others, and be used by those you help. It happens all the time. I've known volunteers who had items stolen, were mugged, raped, and even killed by homeless people they went out of their way to help.
You really can't help anyone IMO, helping someone is an illusion. People have to help themselves.
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Good question.
This is not true. Not all homeless people are evil.
Like I mentioned, a homeless person could be a higher soul than you are, yet you wouldn't be aware of it.

Helping people is okay, so long as you do it without a selfish motive. If you unknowingly help an evil person,that too is pass. But if you help a person homeless or millionaire, KNOWING FULL WELL he is EVIL, then that is a soul crime, one which lowers your karma.

Helping people is okay and good. Make sure you keep your motive un-selfish. The book mentions scores of temple-donators in India being banished to the lower realms , because their motivation for helping and donating money was selfish, and with a need to wipe out their bad karma which is not allowed up in the spirit world.
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what if you are helping others
to BALANCE your karma

is that selfish?
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"Helping Evil in any way lowers your karma.
Example: Giving money to evil people or assisting them in any way will bring you down to the lower realms of existence.
Watching a Madonna ritual or a Beyonce show , knowing fully well that those are SATANIC rituals , yet giving them your psychic energies are a CRIME AGAINST GOD!!" - OP, if you don't give YOUR PERMISSION,they CANNOT take your psychic energies.
I DON'T ALLOW ANYBODY FROM HARVESTING ENERGY FROM ME.Just for whom I want to give them and it will be always LOVE and CURE rays.

Let it be VERY CLEAR in your mind or tell it loud and clear: I DON'T ALLOW ANYONE FEEDING FROM MY VITAL ENERGY!!!!
I DON'T ALLOW ANYONE FEEDING FROM MY VITAL ENERGY!!!!
I DON'T ALLOW ANYONE FEEDING FROM MY VITAL ENERGY!!!!

Keep a strong mind and will.

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