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American IT workers, what are you thoughts about importing H1-B workers?

 
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Re: American IT workers, what are you thoughts about importing H1-B workers?
Yep, I posted a thread on this a few weeks ago:

Senators Seek H-1B Cap That Can Reach 300,000

"A bipartisan group of Senators is planning to introduce a bill that allows the H-1B visa cap to rise automatically with demand to a maximum of 300,000 visas annually. This 20-page bill, called the Immigration Innovation Act of 2013 or the 'I-Squared Act of 2013,' is being developed by Sens. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), and Chris Coons (D-Del.). It may be introduced next week. Presently, the U.S. has an H-1B visa cap of 65,000. There are another 20,000 H-1B visas set aside for advanced degree gradates of U.S. universities, for 85,000 in total. Under the new bill, the base H-1B cap would increase from 65,000 to 115,000. But the cap would be allowed to rise automatically with demand, according to a draft of the legislation."

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That H1B cap is the only protection American workers have. Once they're H1B, the Americans will be fired with no ability to protect their jobs or fight back. The employment law is specifically written to ensure there is no protection of Americans unless the government decides to step in and sue -- which it never does.

Of course they get the chance to become H1B because they lie about their immigration intention to get student visas. Every H1B is a foreigner who lied about his immigration intention, unless somehow he "saw the light" when here and developed an immigration intention when here. Yeah right.

But it's worse than that, because the foreigners can actually intend to come here as students and work here after graduation for a couple years of "practical training" as H1B, then return home.

But of course, once they're H1B they reveal their dishonesty by trying to get green cards. And if they get as far as H1B, they ALL try for green cards. Dishonest fuckers.

Such an intentionally dysfunctional system is like the healthcare system and many of the new systems, just intended to fuck over the American workers -- the good ones who worked hard in school, did everything right and hope to become professionals in THEIR home country, the USA.
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Re: American IT workers, what are you thoughts about importing H1-B workers?
Many of these workers are incompetent compared to American workers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19453323


Bullshit. I used to work in IT. The foreigners are some of the best we have.
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There is no shortage of qualified American workers, despite the claims of H1-B shills.
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Most Americans are getting Liberal Arts degrees !!
Useless !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19315397


Yes, but some are getting engineering and other STEM degrees, only to be fucked over this way.

My whole life there has been a supposed "engineering shortage" and my whole life there have been a significant number of unemployed experienced engineers. Maybe over 40, but that's not supposed to make you unemployed.
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The last company I worked for gave all potential new hires and current employees a 40 question networking exam. If u don't know the material, u don't get hired.
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Yes Americans were subject to test BUT Contracting companies from INDIA are hired and they put whoever they want in the positions. NO Testing... I know.. I was the PM at DELL and ATT.. New contractors, rotated in from the contracting companies.. AND THEY DO NOT PAY AMERICAN Income TAXES in India ..They pay them half as "EXPENSES" when they are in our country, making thier wages look lower to the IRS.. Ask any Indian contractor if you dont believe me..
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I'm sure your right about what your saying. However that was not the case in our 150 man IT department.
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Bullshit. I used to work in IT. The foreigners are some of the best we have.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31557420


There is no shortage of qualified American workers, despite the claims of H1-B shills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19453323


Most Americans are getting Liberal Arts degrees !!
Useless !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19315397


Yes, but some are getting engineering and other STEM degrees, only to be fucked over this way.

My whole life there has been a supposed "engineering shortage" and my whole life there have been a significant number of unemployed experienced engineers. Maybe over 40, but that's not supposed to make you unemployed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


it would depend on your experience !!
if you are 40 and don't have some special skills so far but a degree you are toast !!
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There is no shortage of qualified American workers, despite the claims of H1-B shills.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19453323


Most Americans are getting Liberal Arts degrees !!
Useless !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19315397


Yes, but some are getting engineering and other STEM degrees, only to be fucked over this way.

My whole life there has been a supposed "engineering shortage" and my whole life there have been a significant number of unemployed experienced engineers. Maybe over 40, but that's not supposed to make you unemployed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


it would depend on your experience !!
if you are 40 and don't have some special skills so far but a degree you are toast !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19315397


"Special skills"?? By then they ALL have plenty of special skills. And are laid off.

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