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I love how the natural exploitation is for cameras and robots to measure exact distance. Sounds like surveillance/killing machines.
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
Seriously? You think that a creature that primarily jumps to hunt would not have evolved a way to gauge the distance?
Did you learn to walk through divine intervention? How about speak -- did that one just fall into your lap one day, too?
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Seriously? You think that a creature that primarily jumps to hunt would not have evolved a way to gauge the distance?
Did you learn to walk through divine intervention? How about speak -- did that one just fall into your lap one day, too?
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no....I learned how to walk THIS way



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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
like many species ,it has hundreds of babies of which only a few live to reproduce. not a very intelligent design as humans view things as the vast majority fail.


a creator wouldn't design things which such a fail rate.


would they now?
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like many species ,it has hundreds of babies of which only a few live to reproduce. not a very intelligent design as humans view things as the vast majority fail.


a creator wouldn't design things which such a fail rate.


would they now?
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That is a lesson to illustrate that life is divinely limited and finite.

Don't be so narrow churchlady
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Seriously? You think that a creature that primarily jumps to hunt would not have evolved a way to gauge the distance?
Did you learn to walk through divine intervention? How about speak -- did that one just fall into your lap one day, too?
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WOW, what a logical fallacy bro. Are you a moron? One is a learned trait passed on through 'culture' and 'heritage' while the other is a 'motor skill/function'.

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That has to be the dumbest thing I've read all night. If your theory even held an ounce of truth, it would imply that we all speak one language.

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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
Seriously? You think that a creature that primarily jumps to hunt would not have evolved a way to gauge the distance?
Did you learn to walk through divine intervention? How about speak -- did that one just fall into your lap one day, too?
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no....I learned how to walk THIS way



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Hahaha, I'm not sure which meaning to take from this. If you're suggesting observation and imitation then you're on the same track as evolution. Don't get me wrong, there probably is a god of some sort and there probably is someone/something that screwed around with us as a species.
The current theory on human evolution is flawed, but evolution is real, maybe it's even a lazy fix so the creator can focus on other things, rather than making sure this planet doesn't die. If there is a omnipotent creator, there's probably some other things to be taken care of, besides earth.
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
Seriously? You think that a creature that primarily jumps to hunt would not have evolved a way to gauge the distance?
Did you learn to walk through divine intervention? How about speak -- did that one just fall into your lap one day, too?
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WOW, what a logical fallacy bro. Are you a moron? One is a learned trait passed on through 'culture' and 'heritage' while the other is a 'motor skill/function'.

cruise

That has to be the dumbest thing I've read all night. If your theory even held an ounce of truth, it would imply that we all speak one language.

:fuckthatguy:
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What theory is in that quote? They are simply questions. Tell me, then, how is a distance gauge something only possible by God's immediate and complete creation?
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Seriously? You think that a creature that primarily jumps to hunt would not have evolved a way to gauge the distance?
Did you learn to walk through divine intervention? How about speak -- did that one just fall into your lap one day, too?
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WOW, what a logical fallacy bro. Are you a moron? One is a learned trait passed on through 'culture' and 'heritage' while the other is a 'motor skill/function'.

cruise

That has to be the dumbest thing I've read all night. If your theory even held an ounce of truth, it would imply that we all speak one language.

:fuckthatguy:
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:ohserious :

The dumbest thing?

This is GLP.....
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The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
like many species ,it has hundreds of babies of which only a few live to reproduce. not a very intelligent design as humans view things as the vast majority fail.


a creator wouldn't design things which such a fail rate.


would they now?
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That is a lesson to illustrate that life is divinely limited and finite.

Don't be so narrow churchlady
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and the "fail rate" of humans to care for divine creation..?
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So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
... How is this not a DGN thread? Has he retired? Did something happen to him?!?!

What will we do without 10 making fun of evolution threads a day?!
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
Why do so many people assume evolution and creation don't jive?
If God created everything as we know today in the form it is in today... what the hell was the point of anything to live and die-off beforehand? What's the point of existence if everything was made to it's end? Just because there's a bunch of radicals out there who say they don't doesn't mean they are correct. Logic is part of "His creation" so utilize it. Books are changed, often by those in power. If 'the good book' is accurate, then the deceiver has already changed it. It is up to you to figure out existence, don't just take someone's word (including mine) without contemplating it.
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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so you have copied evolutionists typical replies to threads?


is there not more than one person on the earth that knows evolution is the crème de la crème lie?
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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so you have copied evolutionists typical replies to threads?


is there not more than one person on the earth that knows evolution is the crème de la crème lie?
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I just can't comprehend how someone can be this fucking stupid.
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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so you have copied evolutionists typical replies to threads?


is there not more than one person on the earth that knows evolution is the crème de la crème lie?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What? Do you think before you type or do you just mash the keyboard and hope it makes sense?

If you added "Chuck" after "so" in your title this would be an exact copy of a DGN thread.

If you can explain why evolution is a lie, I would love to hear it because all I ever see from DGN's threads and so far this one is:
You post an animal, say I bet this couldn't happen by itself, provide no other evidence for your claim then ride out the thread with bible quotes and fallacies.
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
Why do so many people assume evolution and creation don't jive?

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Because the modern abrahamic concept of god is derived from a series of books, one of which is called Genesis. In Genesis, the abrahamic god 'divinely' inspired some jew to write down exactly how 'he' (yes the abrahamic religion not only claims god is a human, but he is also a man) created everything.

The claims in Genesis are completely and totally contrary to evolution. There is no possible way to "make them jive".

There is however the ability for the human mind to experience cognitive dissonance. Which thankfully at least most westerners exhibit, because if they didn't we would live in some retard civilization like saudi arabia or europe in the dark ages...
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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so you have copied evolutionists typical replies to threads?


is there not more than one person on the earth that knows evolution is the crème de la crème lie?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What? Do you think before you type or do you just mash the keyboard and hope it makes sense?

If you added "Chuck" after "so" in your title this would be an exact copy of a DGN thread.

If you can explain why evolution is a lie, I would love to hear it because all I ever see from DGN's threads and so far this one is:
You post an animal, say I bet this couldn't happen by itself, provide no other evidence for your claim then ride out the thread with bible quotes and fallacies.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


lol because not only did I read this shithole thread, but I read your karma comments. I have no idea why I spend anytime at this forum full of such absolute retards.
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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so you have copied evolutionists typical replies to threads?


is there not more than one person on the earth that knows evolution is the crème de la crème lie?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What? Do you think before you type or do you just mash the keyboard and hope it makes sense?

If you added "Chuck" after "so" in your title this would be an exact copy of a DGN thread.

If you can explain why evolution is a lie, I would love to hear it because all I ever see from DGN's threads and so far this one is:
You post an animal, say I bet this couldn't happen by itself, provide no other evidence for your claim then ride out the thread with bible quotes and fallacies.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


lol because not only did I read this shithole thread, but I read your karma comments. I have no idea why I spend anytime at this forum full of such absolute retards.
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They're good hey. My favorite so far has to be this one:
"Hateful left-wing shitbag."

A bit irony impaired I think.
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
Why do so many people assume evolution and creation don't jive?

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Because the modern abrahamic concept of god is derived from a series of books, one of which is called Genesis. In Genesis, the abrahamic god 'divinely' inspired some jew to write down exactly how 'he' (yes the abrahamic religion not only claims god is a human, but he is also a man) created everything.

The claims in Genesis are completely and totally contrary to evolution. There is no possible way to "make them jive".

There is however the ability for the human mind to experience cognitive dissonance. Which thankfully at least most westerners exhibit, because if they didn't we would live in some retard civilization like saudi arabia or europe in the dark ages...
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I get what you're saying, but that applies to the theory of human evolution, not evolution itself. Biology is admittedly troubled with our full history and I do believe there have been changes in humanity that go beyond adaptation and proliferation. I also believe evolution to be real, in that it is as real as time, change and trend... since that's basically what it is. "Evolution" is not contradictory to creation, at least not in concept.
I feel as if there must be some reputable, religious person out there that see's this.
Again, if someone wants to be hardcore about Christianity then they have to accept that most of the x-tian teachings would likely have been altered, or one significant game-changing detail at least.

But... what am I telling you this for, you've obviously got some sense about you. I suppose the tangent that comment led me on is directed to OP, or whoever has eyes to see.
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so you have copied evolutionists typical replies to threads?


is there not more than one person on the earth that knows evolution is the crème de la crème lie?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What? Do you think before you type or do you just mash the keyboard and hope it makes sense?

If you added "Chuck" after "so" in your title this would be an exact copy of a DGN thread.

If you can explain why evolution is a lie, I would love to hear it because all I ever see from DGN's threads and so far this one is:
You post an animal, say I bet this couldn't happen by itself, provide no other evidence for your claim then ride out the thread with bible quotes and fallacies.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


lol because not only did I read this shithole thread, but I read your karma comments. I have no idea why I spend anytime at this forum full of such absolute retards.
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They're good hey. My favorite so far has to be this one:
"Hateful left-wing shitbag."

A bit irony impaired I think.
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This piece of literary genius caught my attention:

"Disease carrying knob-gobbler. I hope your asshole falls out, gaggot."
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Are you DGN's girlfriend / significant other?

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So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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so you have copied evolutionists typical replies to threads?


is there not more than one person on the earth that knows evolution is the crème de la crème lie?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What? Do you think before you type or do you just mash the keyboard and hope it makes sense?

If you added "Chuck" after "so" in your title this would be an exact copy of a DGN thread.

If you can explain why evolution is a lie, I would love to hear it because all I ever see from DGN's threads and so far this one is:
You post an animal, say I bet this couldn't happen by itself, provide no other evidence for your claim then ride out the thread with bible quotes and fallacies.
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creation needs no other evidence.....creation is evidence in itself


provide a better explanation for me....how we got here...what hope for the future....and maybe you will be worth listening to
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What? Do you think before you type or do you just mash the keyboard and hope it makes sense?

If you added "Chuck" after "so" in your title this would be an exact copy of a DGN thread.

If you can explain why evolution is a lie, I would love to hear it because all I ever see from DGN's threads and so far this one is:
You post an animal, say I bet this couldn't happen by itself, provide no other evidence for your claim then ride out the thread with bible quotes and fallacies.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


lol because not only did I read this shithole thread, but I read your karma comments. I have no idea why I spend anytime at this forum full of such absolute retards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31557420


They're good hey. My favorite so far has to be this one:
"Hateful left-wing shitbag."

A bit irony impaired I think.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


This piece of literary genius caught my attention:

"Disease carrying knob-gobbler. I hope your asshole falls out, gaggot."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31557420


I think that one was after I defended gay marriage.

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Why do so many people assume evolution and creation don't jive?

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Because the modern abrahamic concept of god is derived from a series of books, one of which is called Genesis. In Genesis, the abrahamic god 'divinely' inspired some jew to write down exactly how 'he' (yes the abrahamic religion not only claims god is a human, but he is also a man) created everything.

The claims in Genesis are completely and totally contrary to evolution. There is no possible way to "make them jive".

There is however the ability for the human mind to experience cognitive dissonance. Which thankfully at least most westerners exhibit, because if they didn't we would live in some retard civilization like saudi arabia or europe in the dark ages...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31557420


I get what you're saying, but that applies to the theory of human evolution, not evolution itself. Biology is admittedly troubled with our full history and I do believe there have been changes in humanity that go beyond adaptation and proliferation. I also believe evolution to be real, in that it is as real as time, change and trend... since that's basically what it is. "Evolution" is not contradictory to creation, at least not in concept.
I feel as if there must be some reputable, religious person out there that see's this.
Again, if someone wants to be hardcore about Christianity then they have to accept that most of the x-tian teachings would likely have been altered, or one significant game-changing detail at least.

But... what am I telling you this for, you've obviously got some sense about you. I suppose the tangent that comment led me on is directed to OP, or whoever has eyes to see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1986290


No evolution and creation clearly aren't opposed. But you have to define what creation is.

First of all, we don't even know if creation ever happened, it is possible the universe has always existed in some state, similar to the idea the religious have about their god/gods.

But even if you do concede there was creation, then you have to figure out how and/or what was responsible.

Somethings we know about the beginning of the universe, somethings we don't.

However, what the fundamentalists can't stand, is that what we do know about creation and the subsequent development of mankind, runs contradictory to their bronze aged texts.

So in conclusion, creation and evolution are not opposed, but biblical creationism and evolution are completely opposed.
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So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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so you have copied evolutionists typical replies to threads?


is there not more than one person on the earth that knows evolution is the crème de la crème lie?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What? Do you think before you type or do you just mash the keyboard and hope it makes sense?

If you added "Chuck" after "so" in your title this would be an exact copy of a DGN thread.

If you can explain why evolution is a lie, I would love to hear it because all I ever see from DGN's threads and so far this one is:
You post an animal, say I bet this couldn't happen by itself, provide no other evidence for your claim then ride out the thread with bible quotes and fallacies.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


creation needs no other evidence.....creation is evidence in itself


provide a better explanation for me....how we got here...what hope for the future....and maybe you will be worth listening to
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Creation is not evidence of biblical creationism. In fact you can't even prove anything was ever created, considering it is possible everything has always existed.
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So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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so you have copied evolutionists typical replies to threads?


is there not more than one person on the earth that knows evolution is the crème de la crème lie?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What? Do you think before you type or do you just mash the keyboard and hope it makes sense?

If you added "Chuck" after "so" in your title this would be an exact copy of a DGN thread.

If you can explain why evolution is a lie, I would love to hear it because all I ever see from DGN's threads and so far this one is:
You post an animal, say I bet this couldn't happen by itself, provide no other evidence for your claim then ride out the thread with bible quotes and fallacies.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


creation needs no other evidence.....creation is evidence in itself


provide a better explanation for me....how we got here...what hope for the future....and maybe you will be worth listening to
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


This one's scared. There's no reasoning to help her at this time.
Such redundancies will not make a case. No one has witnessed creation, therefor it is not evidence of itself.
I normally don't get involved in these evolution threads, simply because no one usually even considers the other side(s) in a way other than opposition. The OP did not really mean to ask the question in the thread title, it seems she meant to say something like "I have nothing but my word and my word is evolution is bunk. God made man 6000 years ago and then made woman from man's rib. God then allowed man and woman to create several generations without genetic consequences until the gene-pool was large enough to allow interbreeding to cause problem, and left man to it."

Take note, I did not put those words in OPs mouth, I simply stated what it seems the OP believes.
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So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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so you have copied evolutionists typical replies to threads?


is there not more than one person on the earth that knows evolution is the crème de la crème lie?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


What? Do you think before you type or do you just mash the keyboard and hope it makes sense?

If you added "Chuck" after "so" in your title this would be an exact copy of a DGN thread.

If you can explain why evolution is a lie, I would love to hear it because all I ever see from DGN's threads and so far this one is:
You post an animal, say I bet this couldn't happen by itself, provide no other evidence for your claim then ride out the thread with bible quotes and fallacies.
 Quoting: LSDreamer


creation needs no other evidence.....creation is evidence in itself


provide a better explanation for me....how we got here...what hope for the future....and maybe you will be worth listening to
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


If you said "wow, look at creation how awesome, I don't care how we got here, I will just sit here and appreciate it" then what you just said would be fine.
But you don't, do you? Your creation comes with an interventionist, blood thirsty, vengeful god, who says we are born in sin, who condemns people for their nature, who says that the crimes of a child rapist and a murderer can be washed away if they telepathically channel a cosmic Jewish zombie. We are told by this sociopath and his deluded followers that we are going to be tortured for all eternity if we don't conform to an emotionless moral code which was born out of ancient Palestine.

That does require evidence, and you have none. Simply being here isn't evidence of biblical creation.

On the other hand, science, philosophy, reason.

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