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so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?

 
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You use false equivalances which fail to uphold any sense to an evolutionary argument. good day
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You are a complete dumb ass. Seriously.

If you think that evolution crafted 'this', you're a lemming pushing a bigot cause. Transfer of genetic material is evolution. Procreation by similar symbiotic life forms is evolution.

Ape did not become man! If so, why are there apes who are not evolving? Why are they not building their own systems and societies? Why are they NOT living like cavemen at the very least?

It is astonishing how science spends thousands on 'research' to show a monkey how to 'use' a twig to get ants out of an ant hill. Anyone buying into this needs to get the Golden Gate bridge off of my hands.
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Your idiocy knows no bounds. At least try to get educated if you insist on debating the subject. Good day.
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Show yourself, coward.

And why not put some facts in your post next time to support your view.

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Seriously? You think that a creature that primarily jumps to hunt would not have evolved a way to gauge the distance?
Did you learn to walk through divine intervention? How about speak -- did that one just fall into your lap one day, too?
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WOW, what a logical fallacy bro. Are you a moron? One is a learned trait passed on through 'culture' and 'heritage' while the other is a 'motor skill/function'.

cruise

That has to be the dumbest thing I've read all night. If your theory even held an ounce of truth, it would imply that we all speak one language.

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So much stupid in one post.
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Seriously? You think that a creature that primarily jumps to hunt would not have evolved a way to gauge the distance?
Did you learn to walk through divine intervention? How about speak -- did that one just fall into your lap one day, too?
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WOW, what a logical fallacy bro. Are you a moron? One is a learned trait passed on through 'culture' and 'heritage' while the other is a 'motor skill/function'.

cruise

That has to be the dumbest thing I've read all night. If your theory even held an ounce of truth, it would imply that we all speak one language.

fuckthatguy
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So much stupid in one post.
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You use false equivalances which fail to uphold any sense to an evolutionary argument. good day
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You are a complete dumb ass. Seriously.

If you think that evolution crafted 'this', you're a lemming pushing a bigot cause. Transfer of genetic material is evolution. Procreation by similar symbiotic life forms is evolution.

Ape did not become man! If so, why are there apes who are not evolving? Why are they not building their own systems and societies? Why are they NOT living like cavemen at the very least?

It is astonishing how science spends thousands on 'research' to show a monkey how to 'use' a twig to get ants out of an ant hill. Anyone buying into this needs to get the Golden Gate bridge off of my hands.
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Go and read a book you ignorant arse. And not the one written by King James.
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You use false equivalances which fail to uphold any sense to an evolutionary argument. good day
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You are a complete dumb ass. Seriously.

If you think that evolution crafted 'this', you're a lemming pushing a bigot cause. Transfer of genetic material is evolution. Procreation by similar symbiotic life forms is evolution.

Ape did not become man! If so, why are there apes who are not evolving? Why are they not building their own systems and societies? Why are they NOT living like cavemen at the very least?

It is astonishing how science spends thousands on 'research' to show a monkey how to 'use' a twig to get ants out of an ant hill. Anyone buying into this needs to get the Golden Gate bridge off of my hands.
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Go and read a book you ignorant arse. And not the one written by King James.
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OH, a fact regurgitator. Congrats on reading a book! I heard once in a book, vampires - darwin and unicorns all came together in one magnificent evolutionary orgy.

True story.
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ok can anyone explain the origin of information then? explain how dna organized itself initially.
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[link to www.nrao.edu]

:fuckscience:
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"scientists believe" "scientists thought"

rofl this doesnt prove shit. u found a chemical in outer space
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btw i like how no one that replied to me articulated anything, they just posted some links. two different people. or maybe it was the same guy actually. yea your case is so rock solid that you dont have to say anything right?

ill say it again, explain the origin of information, the origin of organization. tell me one thing that u leave by itself and it becomes more and more complex over time. there is no such thing. it always requires external energy or input, in order to place it into a meaningful pattern. this is besides the fact that we are talking about a self replicating organized pattern i.e. DNA

but please post me some more links from the scientific journal. notice how these people are constantly on the "verge" of discovering something but somehow never actually accomplish anything, never prove anything, just perpetually getting closer yet you cant even replicate what you claim happened all on its own.
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btw i like how no one that replied to me articulated anything, they just posted some links. two different people. or maybe it was the same guy actually. yea your case is so rock solid that you dont have to say anything right?

ill say it again, explain the origin of information, the origin of organization. tell me one thing that u leave by itself and it becomes more and more complex over time. there is no such thing. it always requires external energy or input, in order to place it into a meaningful pattern. this is besides the fact that we are talking about a self replicating organized pattern i.e. DNA

but please post me some more links from the scientific journal. notice how these people are constantly on the "verge" of discovering something but somehow never actually accomplish anything, never prove anything, just perpetually getting closer yet you cant even replicate what you claim happened all on its own.
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What have you accomplished? Anything world changing?....back in your box boy....
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ok can anyone explain the origin of information then? explain how dna organized itself initially.
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[link to www.nrao.edu]

:fuckscience:
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"scientists believe" "scientists thought"

rofl this doesnt prove shit. u found a chemical in outer space
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At least they're TRYING to prove something.

What evidence is there to support creationism?
Just a bunch of Neanderthals pointing to an ancient book.

[link to www.evolutionofdna.com]
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ok can anyone explain the origin of information then? explain how dna organized itself initially.
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[link to www.nrao.edu]

:fuckscience:
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"scientists believe" "scientists thought"

rofl this doesnt prove shit. u found a chemical in outer space
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At least they're TRYING to prove something.

What evidence is there to support creationism?
Just a bunch of Neanderthals pointing to an ancient book.

[link to www.evolutionofdna.com]
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lol another link. im sitting here trying to reason with you people and you just made my point
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btw i like how no one that replied to me articulated anything, they just posted some links. two different people. or maybe it was the same guy actually. yea your case is so rock solid that you dont have to say anything right?

ill say it again, explain the origin of information, the origin of organization. tell me one thing that u leave by itself and it becomes more and more complex over time. there is no such thing. it always requires external energy or input, in order to place it into a meaningful pattern. this is besides the fact that we are talking about a self replicating organized pattern i.e. DNA

but please post me some more links from the scientific journal. notice how these people are constantly on the "verge" of discovering something but somehow never actually accomplish anything, never prove anything, just perpetually getting closer yet you cant even replicate what you claim happened all on its own.
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What have you accomplished? Anything world changing?....back in your box boy....
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not sure what you are trying to get at there but if i understand you correctly then your statement could easily be applied to you as well. so, thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion. try to put your emotions aside
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bad thing is, i dont even enjoy this.
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So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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so you have copied evolutionists typical replies to threads?


is there not more than one person on the earth that knows evolution is the crème de la crème lie?
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What? Do you think before you type or do you just mash the keyboard and hope it makes sense?

If you added "Chuck" after "so" in your title this would be an exact copy of a DGN thread.

If you can explain why evolution is a lie, I would love to hear it because all I ever see from DGN's threads and so far this one is:
You post an animal, say I bet this couldn't happen by itself, provide no other evidence for your claim then ride out the thread with bible quotes and fallacies.
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creation needs no other evidence.....creation is evidence in itself


provide a better explanation for me....how we got here...what hope for the future....and maybe you will be worth listening to
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Better than your explanation which cites several thousand year old cult pamphlets.
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[link to www.nrao.edu]

:fuckscience:
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"scientists believe" "scientists thought"

rofl this doesnt prove shit. u found a chemical in outer space
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At least they're TRYING to prove something.

What evidence is there to support creationism?
Just a bunch of Neanderthals pointing to an ancient book.

[link to www.evolutionofdna.com]
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lol another link. im sitting here trying to reason with you people and you just made my point
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Posting the links is for two reasons; so you can read in your own time and possibly even alter what you think.
There's a lot of information which unfortunately can't be compressed into single sentences.

However trying to have a rational argument with a creationist about evolution is pointless as it doesn't matter whether there was irrefutable proof of evolution, you lot would still deny it.


Still waiting for proof creation though.
And no using your book as "evidence".
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"scientists believe" "scientists thought"

rofl this doesnt prove shit. u found a chemical in outer space
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At least they're TRYING to prove something.

What evidence is there to support creationism?
Just a bunch of Neanderthals pointing to an ancient book.

[link to www.evolutionofdna.com]
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lol another link. im sitting here trying to reason with you people and you just made my point
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Posting the links is for two reasons; so you can read in your own time and possibly even alter what you think.
There's a lot of information which unfortunately can't be compressed into single sentences.

However trying to have a rational argument with a creationist about evolution is pointless as it doesn't matter whether there was irrefutable proof of evolution, you lot would still deny it.


Still waiting for proof creation though.
And no using your book as "evidence".
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well, good thing i didn't try to do that in the first place. i would have more respect for these people if they were on some new age bullshit. people still believe in evolution? how ignorant are you? even gnosticism holds more water, you are so intent on attacking the Bible, you could have your cake and eat it too rofl.

ya thanks for the links, because i have never done any studying in my own time until i discovered this thread. let me guess, im a brainwashed christian who was raised in the church and never had an original thought.

all i asked was for people to put things in their own words to prove they understood it and believed it. but i got a feeling that if you took the 2 minutes as i have to write your post, that even you could not believe the garbage coming out of your own mouth. im gonna ask again. explain the origin of information and tell me 1 scenario where things organize themselves rather than fall into entropy.
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At least they're TRYING to prove something.

What evidence is there to support creationism?
Just a bunch of Neanderthals pointing to an ancient book.

[link to www.evolutionofdna.com]
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lol another link. im sitting here trying to reason with you people and you just made my point
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2251874


Posting the links is for two reasons; so you can read in your own time and possibly even alter what you think.
There's a lot of information which unfortunately can't be compressed into single sentences.

However trying to have a rational argument with a creationist about evolution is pointless as it doesn't matter whether there was irrefutable proof of evolution, you lot would still deny it.


Still waiting for proof creation though.
And no using your book as "evidence".
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well, good thing i didn't try to do that in the first place. i would have more respect for these people if they were on some new age bullshit. people still believe in evolution? how ignorant are you? even gnosticism holds more water, you are so intent on attacking the Bible, you could have your cake and eat it too rofl.

ya thanks for the links, because i have never done any studying in my own time until i discovered this thread. let me guess, im a brainwashed christian who was raised in the church and never had an original thought.

all i asked was for people to put things in their own words to prove they understood it and believed it. but i got a feeling that if you took the 2 minutes as i have to write your post, that even you could not believe the garbage coming out of your own mouth. im gonna ask again. explain the origin of information and tell me 1 scenario where things organize themselves rather than fall into entropy.
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Would that not suggest that we are in entropy now then?
If we are in some form of organisation then that would squash that notion would it not?
And in what "timescale" should this fall into entropy occur?
When would organisation be deemed to have or have not taken place?
Before I can answer your question you need to be more specific in what you're hoping to have answered.

And btw, I don't attack the bible.
I do attack those who cite the bible as evidence though.
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religious people are funny. they ignore all evidence that proves their 'faith' to be completely wrong, and then come up with random examples that 'prove' their faith right without providing any evidence at all except ridiculous things like 'jumping spiders could never evolve to jump a certain distance' which make as much sense as the bible. guess i should not be surprised.
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like many species ,it has hundreds of babies of which only a few live to reproduce. not a very intelligent design as humans view things as the vast majority fail.


a creator wouldn't design things which such a fail rate.


would they now?
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Yes he did, hundreds were not intended to survive but rather to feed other bugs or the earth would be over run with spiders.
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religious people are funny. they ignore all evidence that proves their 'faith' to be completely wrong, and then come up with random examples that 'prove' their faith right without providing any evidence at all except ridiculous things like 'jumping spiders could never evolve to jump a certain distance' which make as much sense as the bible. guess i should not be surprised.
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Maybe you'll be surprized by this opportunity for you to explain how a spider's tiny brain did the RnD to design it's eyes so it can calculate the distance it needs to jump?
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like many species ,it has hundreds of babies of which only a few live to reproduce. not a very intelligent design as humans view things as the vast majority fail.


a creator wouldn't design things which such a fail rate.


would they now?
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Hoorah..... A voice of reason, flames, down, shot in comes to mind
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So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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exactly! and the OP is none the less retarded for doing this
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like many species ,it has hundreds of babies of which only a few live to reproduce. not a very intelligent design as humans view things as the vast majority fail.


a creator wouldn't design things which such a fail rate.


would they now?
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Hoorah..... A voice of reason, flames, down, shot in comes to mind
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So.... 'evolution' did?
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like many species ,it has hundreds of babies of which only a few live to reproduce. not a very intelligent design as humans view things as the vast majority fail.


a creator wouldn't design things which such a fail rate.


would they now?
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Hoorah..... A voice of reason, flames, down, shot in comes to mind
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So.... 'evolution' did?
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Ugh... not you... piss off
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So you've copied DGN's model for making threads?
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exactly! and the OP is none the less retarded for doing this
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Try to provide a bit more t e c h n i c a l reply to these questions, they earn more respect.
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religious people are funny. they ignore all evidence that proves their 'faith' to be completely wrong, and then come up with random examples that 'prove' their faith right without providing any evidence at all except ridiculous things like 'jumping spiders could never evolve to jump a certain distance' which make as much sense as the bible. guess i should not be surprised.
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Maybe you'll be surprized by this opportunity for you to explain how a spider's tiny brain did the RnD to design it's eyes so it can calculate the distance it needs to jump?
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religious people are funny. they ignore all evidence that proves their 'faith' to be completely wrong, and then come up with random examples that 'prove' their faith right without providing any evidence at all except ridiculous things like 'jumping spiders could never evolve to jump a certain distance' which make as much sense as the bible. guess i should not be surprised.
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Maybe you'll be surprized by this opportunity for you to explain how a spider's tiny brain did the RnD to design it's eyes so it can calculate the distance it needs to jump?
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And with that statement there's proof that you are an ignoramus.
Never mind.
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I can't for the life of me understand the ignorance behind creationism (and when I say "ignorance" I don't mean it as an insult...ignorance simply means uninformed). To think one species simply generated another species complete as it exists as we see it ridiculous, yet this is what I understand is the thought that goes along with creationism ("I didn't evolve from a monkey"...of course you didn't...no one did. You simply are not grasping how evolution works. The idea of God speaking things into existence didn't sound right to me even when I was a Christian. The idea of evolution does not negate the existence of God, it's only in conflict of early texts, scripture about the specifics.)
If there were no such thing as evolution, we wouldn't have medicine, electricity, computers or cell phones (or we would have had them from the start).
Creationists, do you realize if we brought the average European Christian from 1400 to today they'd call you a devil worshiper? The western world Christian view at that time was that God created everything and anything not created by God was of the devil. Do you realize that when physicians first wanted to operate it was forbidden because if God had wanted this person healed, God would heal them?
So despite your insistence that there's no such thing as evolution, how is it we've evolved from people who had no cars, no phones, no t.v., no computers and the people that wrote the ancient texts you so revere didn't even know we lived on a planet or even what a galaxy is?
No real scientist has ever set out to prove there is no God (OR that there is one). Science is about studying our world and learning. If it is crime against God to do these things then maybe you should think about dropping out of society and moving to the wilderness and living off the land because to do otherwise is living under and accepting those things the devil has brought into existence.
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to quote you. Science is about studying our world and learning"- how is it that so many who claim to study our world end up not believing there is an intelligent designer?...go figure
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I can't for the life of me understand the ignorance behind creationism (and when I say "ignorance" I don't mean it as an insult...ignorance simply means uninformed). To think one species simply generated another species complete as it exists as we see it ridiculous, yet this is what I understand is the thought that goes along with creationism ("I didn't evolve from a monkey"...of course you didn't...no one did. You simply are not grasping how evolution works. The idea of God speaking things into existence didn't sound right to me even when I was a Christian. The idea of evolution does not negate the existence of God, it's only in conflict of early texts, scripture about the specifics.)
If there were no such thing as evolution, we wouldn't have medicine, electricity, computers or cell phones (or we would have had them from the start).
Creationists, do you realize if we brought the average European Christian from 1400 to today they'd call you a devil worshiper? The western world Christian view at that time was that God created everything and anything not created by God was of the devil. Do you realize that when physicians first wanted to operate it was forbidden because if God had wanted this person healed, God would heal them?
So despite your insistence that there's no such thing as evolution, how is it we've evolved from people who had no cars, no phones, no t.v., no computers and the people that wrote the ancient texts you so revere didn't even know we lived on a planet or even what a galaxy is?
No real scientist has ever set out to prove there is no God (OR that there is one). Science is about studying our world and learning. If it is crime against God to do these things then maybe you should think about dropping out of society and moving to the wilderness and living off the land because to do otherwise is living under and accepting those things the devil has brought into existence.
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to quote you. Science is about studying our world and learning"- how is it that so many who claim to study our world end up not believing there is an intelligent designer?...go figure
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I can't for the life of me understand the ignorance behind creationism (and when I say "ignorance" I don't mean it as an insult...ignorance simply means uninformed). To think one species simply generated another species complete as it exists as we see it ridiculous, yet this is what I understand is the thought that goes along with creationism ("I didn't evolve from a monkey"...of course you didn't...no one did. You simply are not grasping how evolution works. The idea of God speaking things into existence didn't sound right to me even when I was a Christian. The idea of evolution does not negate the existence of God, it's only in conflict of early texts, scripture about the specifics.)
If there were no such thing as evolution, we wouldn't have medicine, electricity, computers or cell phones (or we would have had them from the start).
Creationists, do you realize if we brought the average European Christian from 1400 to today they'd call you a devil worshiper? The western world Christian view at that time was that God created everything and anything not created by God was of the devil. Do you realize that when physicians first wanted to operate it was forbidden because if God had wanted this person healed, God would heal them?
So despite your insistence that there's no such thing as evolution, how is it we've evolved from people who had no cars, no phones, no t.v., no computers and the people that wrote the ancient texts you so revere didn't even know we lived on a planet or even what a galaxy is?
No real scientist has ever set out to prove there is no God (OR that there is one). Science is about studying our world and learning. If it is crime against God to do these things then maybe you should think about dropping out of society and moving to the wilderness and living off the land because to do otherwise is living under and accepting those things the devil has brought into existence.
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to quote you. Science is about studying our world and learning"- how is it that so many who claim to study our world end up not believing there is an intelligent designer?...go figure
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Re: so.........I bet evolution taught this spider how far to jump to survive...Right?
religious people are funny. they ignore all evidence that proves their 'faith' to be completely wrong, and then come up with random examples that 'prove' their faith right without providing any evidence at all except ridiculous things like 'jumping spiders could never evolve to jump a certain distance' which make as much sense as the bible. guess i should not be surprised.
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Maybe you'll be surprized by this opportunity for you to explain how a spider's tiny brain did the RnD to design it's eyes so it can calculate the distance it needs to jump?
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And with that statement there's proof that you are an ignoramus.
Never mind.
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That's why you should take this opportunity to teach me.
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