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Florida Sink Hole a Hoax?

 
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No one is disputing sink holes, just that it is impossible to swallow just one bedroom in a house. Concrete floors are poured around a steel rebar grid tied together so the entire floor behaves as one solid piece. If the ground gives way the floor stays intact. Even if the concrete crumbles the steel grid prevents a cave in.

The story is a hoax.
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There is a chance that room could have been a add-on with a second slab poured at a latter time then it would not be connected to the main slab thus making this story possible .
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And from my years of construction what about the floor joists connected to the plate of the foundation? that would prevent any matteress from fallin in also, it just doesnt sound right and makes no sense.. not sayin hoax but the way the story is told it just sounds like bullshit.
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The story of 1 man being killed by a sink hole is not a small fib twisting the story just a bit.

It's an orchestrated hoax.
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theory of mine

under the homes here is sand

if they had a drain pipe that was broken and leaking for years you wouldnt know unless you had a back up and black sand was coming up in your sink

so if this drain was leaking for years could have washed away sand under the house

it was his bed room so most likely there was a bathroom next to his room
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Could it be or Cern, fermilab or any particle collider around the globe they were sending these particles through the earth at one time.


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No one is disputing sink holes, just that it is impossible to swallow just one bedroom in a house. Concrete floors are poured around a steel rebar grid tied together so the entire floor behaves as one solid piece. If the ground gives way the floor stays intact. Even if the concrete crumbles the steel grid prevents a cave in.

The story is a hoax.
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There is a chance that room could have been a add-on with a second slab poured at a latter time then it would not be connected to the main slab thus making this story possible .
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Anything is possible, that's how TPTB are able to convince the sheep to believe their official fables. You think Building 7 collapsing due to fires was possible also? Not a chance.
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are you a construction worker?

ok here is something maybe you dont know..

these homes in Florida are old... we do not have basements

if we have a pipe lets say in the kitchen a drain pipe there is no crawl space

its under ground no way getting at it unless you dig a tunnel


how do I know?

cause this happened with me and the plumbing company had people dig under my house I saw whats under there


homes here are just a giant cement block built to withstand hurricanes
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Yes, I build houses. That's how I know this story is bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35426802


were you building homes back 40 years ago in florida?


doubt it
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Yes and other parts of the country.

You obviously don't know shit about construction.
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well I do a little and I have a personal experience with my own home

and have photos of what it looks like under my home in 25 feet from the out side of my home
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Hell 40 years ago, they might not put rebar in the concrete. The building codes in Fl. were pretty lax back then. It does seem implausible to lose just one room to a sink hole.
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Unless you're in some maximum security prison, they dont use reinforcing bar in slab work. They do use reinforcing wire mesh. A mesh-reinforced slab would sag, crumple and disappear into a sinkhole. Even if it were reinforced with rebar, once the soil base gives way underneath, it would fail.
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Could it be or Cern, fermilab or any particle collider around the globe they were sending these particles through the earth at one time.


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wtf
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theory of mine

under the homes here is sand

if they had a drain pipe that was broken and leaking for years you wouldnt know unless you had a back up and black sand was coming up in your sink

so if this drain was leaking for years could have washed away sand under the house

it was his bed room so most likely there was a bathroom next to his room
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no chance the home was built by some shitbag contractor and sold to gullible droops.
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No one is disputing sink holes, just that it is impossible to swallow just one bedroom in a house. Concrete floors are poured around a steel rebar grid tied together so the entire floor behaves as one solid piece. If the ground gives way the floor stays intact. Even if the concrete crumbles the steel grid prevents a cave in.

The story is a hoax.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35426802


There is a chance that room could have been a add-on with a second slab poured at a latter time then it would not be connected to the main slab thus making this story possible .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31422637


Anything is possible, that's how TPTB are able to convince the sheep to believe their official fables. You think Building 7 collapsing due to fires was possible also? Not a chance.
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No i know building 7 was blown up i have reviewed the video many times and the early reports that they pulled the building.
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Florida homes are slab on grade construction. There is no rebar present in the slab, only footings or piers. There probably is a wire mesh in the slab. If a sinkhole opened up, chances are that slab would not hold very long. The weight of the concrete alone would send it into the hole. News crews aren't allowed in the home because the area is unstable and probably to respect the family of the deceased.
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Florida homes are slab on grade construction. There is no rebar present in the slab, only footings or piers. There probably is a wire mesh in the slab. If a sinkhole opened up, chances are that slab would not hold very long. The weight of the concrete alone would send it into the hole. News crews aren't allowed in the home because the area is unstable and probably to respect the family of the deceased.
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Some Florida homes, this one being one of them. Home is probably 50 years old
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I'm a Union Journeyman Carpenter in Chicago and I do realize code is much different here and there and especially now and then. The facts are, there are NO signs of a sinkhole of the dimensions claimed by media. I studied geology at Southern Illinois University as well and there is just no evidence from where I sit in my living room. I can only deduct what I see on screen I wish I was there even though I guarantee they won't let you close for,"safety reasons", my ass. Also, why haven't there been any pictures of the hole itself.
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[link to news.yahoo.com]

"The sinkhole, estimated at 20 feet across and 20 feet deep, caused the home's concrete floor to cave in around 11 p.m. Thursday as everyone in the Tampa-area house was turning in for the night. It gave way with a loud crash that sounded like a car hitting the house and brought Bush's brother running."


If the concrete floor had rebar which is required by code then the entire house would have dropped in the hole, not just one bedroom. In fact the story of a sink hole swallowing just one bedroom is structurally impossible.

Notice how there is no visible evidence of a sink hole from outside the house. What are the odds of that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35424897


I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday when I saw the report. No way just one room gave way.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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Monolithic slab foundation

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I'm a Union Journeyman Carpenter in Chicago and I do realize code is much different here and there and especially now and then. The facts are, there are NO signs of a sinkhole of the dimensions claimed by media. I studied geology at Southern Illinois University as well and there is just no evidence from where I sit in my living room. I can only deduct what I see on screen I wish I was there even though I guarantee they won't let you close for,"safety reasons", my ass. Also, why haven't there been any pictures of the hole itself.
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I am a carpenter myself in Chicago....Union keeping you busy?
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You people are crazy

I know, I know.........I'm a shill. Lol
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Monolithic Slabs
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are you a construction worker?

ok here is something maybe you dont know..

these homes in Florida are old... we do not have basements

if we have a pipe lets say in the kitchen a drain pipe there is no crawl space

its under ground no way getting at it unless you dig a tunnel


how do I know?

cause this happened with me and the plumbing company had people dig under my house I saw whats under there


homes here are just a giant cement block built to withstand hurricanes
 Quoting: Z-Punk


Yes, I build houses. That's how I know this story is bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35426802


were you building homes back 40 years ago in florida?


doubt it
 Quoting: Z-Punk


Yes and other parts of the country.

You obviously don't know shit about construction.
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And you obviously don't know shit about the geological composition of Florida. The entire state sits atop a layer of sand, clay and permeable limestone. Underneath the limestone are massive aquifers that seep into the limestone. This acidic groundwater is what causes the dissolution of the limestone and thus the massive amounts of sinkholes in Florida.

So is one considered a shill for acknowledging this simple fact? It's basic geology, not rocket science. It can be comprehended by young children, who are likely far more intelligent than those in this thread claiming this is a hoax.
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Monolithic Slabs

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Hayes Concrete are a bunch of Shills lmao
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Yes, I build houses. That's how I know this story is bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35426802


were you building homes back 40 years ago in florida?


doubt it
 Quoting: Z-Punk


Yes and other parts of the country.

You obviously don't know shit about construction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35426802


And you obviously don't know shit about the geological composition of Florida. The entire state sits atop a layer of sand, clay and permeable limestone. Underneath the limestone are massive aquifers that seep into the limestone. This acidic groundwater is what causes the dissolution of the limestone and thus the massive amounts of sinkholes in Florida.

So is one considered a shill for acknowledging this simple fact? It's basic geology, not rocket science. It can be comprehended by young children, who are likely far more intelligent than those in this thread claiming this is a hoax.
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No one is disputing sink holes. But to swallow one bedroom in a house is utter bullshit.
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Re: Florida Sink Hole a Hoax?
theory of mine

under the homes here is sand

if they had a drain pipe that was broken and leaking for years you wouldnt know unless you had a back up and black sand was coming up in your sink

so if this drain was leaking for years could have washed away sand under the house

it was his bed room so most likely there was a bathroom next to his room
 Quoting: Z-Punk


You shut your mouth shill. There is no place for reason and logic in this thread. This is a hoax and you must be a blind, clueless sheep if you can't see that.

This forum proves more and more each day that we are de-evolving as a society, almost to the point where most of the posters on this site would be perfect characters for the movie "Idiocracy"

GO AWAY, BATIN.

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All of those people in that vid are actors and Shills rofl
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I thought the same thing. It's hard to believe that the house and yard both look completely normal.
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does seem strange they could find no way to get a picture of the hole to show.
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[link to news.yahoo.com]

"The sinkhole, estimated at 20 feet across and 20 feet deep, caused the home's concrete floor to cave in around 11 p.m. Thursday as everyone in the Tampa-area house was turning in for the night. It gave way with a loud crash that sounded like a car hitting the house and brought Bush's brother running."


If the concrete floor had rebar which is required by code then the entire house would have dropped in the hole, not just one bedroom. In fact the story of a sink hole swallowing just one bedroom is structurally impossible.

Notice how there is no visible evidence of a sink hole from outside the house. What are the odds of that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35424897


Pads poured on the ground like that usually just have wire mesh.

Not strong enough to do what you said.

Last Edited by G. House on 03/02/2013 10:08 AM
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The sheep will believe anything without demanding evidence.

Right now all you have is hearsay and you believe it as fact.

That's why TPTB have taken over.

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