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This should be getting much bigger headlines. New bill HR 748, would require all persons 18-25 to perform a two year mandatory "national service.

 
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It's depressing so many of you have no understanding of freedom at all.

More than a few of you would have been right at home in Germany's SS or Russia's NKVD or China's MSS, herding the people who merely wished to be left alone into prison camps and worse.

Some of you actually believe being a slave is freedom, just shows you how effective state sponsored schooling is in creating mindless drones willing and eager to commit murder for your masters.
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If you are free... why do you pay taxes?
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I am not free, I never said I was.

I do not choose to pay taxes, I am FORCED to.
Though I doubt you understand the difference thanks to your tax funded schooling
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Yep.... you are a slave already.
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A step in the right direction.
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Why should I leave? I was born here, allegedly a free man. Not the you have ANY concept of what freedom means unless some government jerk-off tells you first.

I know there is no draft at this time, did I say there was?
And yet another product of the state propaganda machine.
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Really? Look at your life. Convince yourself you can survive comfortably without government and its providing essentials for you. You gonna drill a well and refine gas/fuel for your needs? How about generate electricity? Defend yourself 24/7/365? Build roads? Provide internet?

I think it reasonable for most of the useless kids in this country to give 2 years service so they can appreciate this country and it's good to them. Leave productive kids to themselves.

Frankly, we are at this point in this country because most kids have truly godless and screwed up parents who are incapable of teaching/leading their kids properly.
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The government did not drill my well.
The government does not refine fuel.
The government does not produce electricity.
No one is attacking me. If they were I would defend myself along with others who were being attacked. No government needed just like minded individuals cooperating.
The government does not build roads.
The government does not provide the internet.

You are wrong on every point and the truth is we are at this point in this country because of idiots like you.
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Well, heck.... let's all live in a hippy commune letting peace and cooperation rule our hearts. Sheesh.. you have little concept of what IS going to take place soon enough.
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So, in your mind being free means you are a hippie?
Peace and cooperation are bad things?
You are an idiot

I know what is going to happen soon and I know who is to blame.
I also know, based on your response which side you'll be on.
I'll be looking for you junior...
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Some peoples Idiots.


A totally BROKE government is going to put to work EVERY youth in the country?

So, how do you think they are going to pay for it?

Raise YOUR taxes,again.


And then indoctrinate them. Record the names of those who actually still are loyal to the Constitution.


Brainwash them into obeying Dear Leader.


Some of you people are too stupid for words.


If the Founding Fathers believe in forced national service it would be in the Constitution.


Who introduced the bill? Another communist. Take it from there.
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im 19, good luck getting me to do this
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Really? Look at your life. Convince yourself you can survive comfortably without government and its providing essentials for you. You gonna drill a well and refine gas/fuel for your needs? How about generate electricity? Defend yourself 24/7/365? Build roads? Provide internet?

I think it reasonable for most of the useless kids in this country to give 2 years service so they can appreciate this country and it's good to them. Leave productive kids to themselves.

Frankly, we are at this point in this country because most kids have truly godless and screwed up parents who are incapable of teaching/leading their kids properly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21583061


The government did not drill my well.
The government does not refine fuel.
The government does not produce electricity.
No one is attacking me. If they were I would defend myself along with others who were being attacked. No government needed just like minded individuals cooperating.
The government does not build roads.
The government does not provide the internet.

You are wrong on every point and the truth is we are at this point in this country because of idiots like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


Well, heck.... let's all live in a hippy commune letting peace and cooperation rule our hearts. Sheesh.. you have little concept of what IS going to take place soon enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21583061


So, in your mind being free means you are a hippie?
Peace and cooperation are bad things?
You are an idiot

I know what is going to happen soon and I know who is to blame.
I also know, based on your response which side you'll be on.
I'll be looking for you junior...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


I'm the idiot? Why do you continue to live a slave to taxes, stupid laws, dependency on government, etc. if you know and understand freedom? Wouldn't you prefer to be truly free? If so, why aren't you?
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Some peoples Idiots.


A totally BROKE government is going to put to work EVERY youth in the country?

So, how do you think they are going to pay for it?

Raise YOUR taxes,again.


And then indoctrinate them. Record the names of those who actually still are loyal to the Constitution.


Brainwash them into obeying Dear Leader.


Some of you people are too stupid for words.


If the Founding Fathers believe in forced national service it would be in the Constitution.


Who introduced the bill? Another communist. Take it from there.
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Pay for it by not giving them entitlements like food stamps, welfare, unemployment, etc. If the constitution had importance anymore would we be scrambling and fighting to protect what it "guarantees" like 1,2,4,5 amendments?
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im 19, good luck getting me to do this
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Relax... it will never happen Rambo.
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Can't afford it,...
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^^THIS. Bingo.

Go sign up kids who have nothing better to do rather than make it mandatory for everyone. My kid is busy getting an engineering degree, don't bother him with this...go get his stoner buddies who are still living w/their parents and a part time job a the quickie mart.
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I agree 100%. If the young person is in college, or working well enough to care for themselves.... support their efforts and encourage them to greatness. The loser type... two years of service to America and perhaps they'd become useful citizens.
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If this whole thing were patriotically motivated, I would have to disagree, this is where we get this separation of people thinking they are better than others because they went to college and others did not so they are better than the ones who did not. I cannot fucking stand that. I am a Combat Marine, have a Criminal Justice degree and am working on a Software Engineering degree and will go for my Masters in Cyber Security or somthing close to it.

I have done both, I know what the cost of freedom is, I know how it feels to kill your enemie and have freinds die, wondering the whole time when your time will be up.

However, this bill, I would have to assume, is more of a Hitler Youth type thing. Young impressionable military is much easier to brainwash into going against the general population. I would not worry though. I think our revolution is coming this year.
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Give me a break. I never said my son would not serve. He's responsible enough to have his act together and make something out of his life. What I am saying is that it makes SENSE to draft kids who are sitting on their butts 90% of the time before interrupting one who is actually gaining a useful skill.

If you can't see that, I can't help you. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Maybe if those stoners served a tour or two they would come back with some sense and start getting a LIFE. No better way to wake them up, IMO.
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this should be ignored

it is the logical evolution

of a facist empire
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Isn't that similar to the Israeli model?
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look who is pushing the bill!!! Rep. Charles Rangel he cheated on his taxes but he was still elected to yet another term
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This is a fantastic idea!

My 2 lazy stepsons need to get off their fat, dead asses and see that there are more things in life than computer games and TV. They literally sit or lay every single moment they are not in school.

I hope they take obese, smart mouthed, know-it-alls!
youre naughty
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^^THIS. Bingo.

Go sign up kids who have nothing better to do rather than make it mandatory for everyone. My kid is busy getting an engineering degree, don't bother him with this...go get his stoner buddies who are still living w/their parents and a part time job a the quickie mart.
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I agree 100%. If the young person is in college, or working well enough to care for themselves.... support their efforts and encourage them to greatness. The loser type... two years of service to America and perhaps they'd become useful citizens.
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If this whole thing were patriotically motivated, I would have to disagree, this is where we get this separation of people thinking they are better than others because they went to college and others did not so they are better than the ones who did not. I cannot fucking stand that. I am a Combat Marine, have a Criminal Justice degree and am working on a Software Engineering degree and will go for my Masters in Cyber Security or somthing close to it.

I have done both, I know what the cost of freedom is, I know how it feels to kill your enemie and have freinds die, wondering the whole time when your time will be up.

However, this bill, I would have to assume, is more of a Hitler Youth type thing. Young impressionable military is much easier to brainwash into going against the general population. I would not worry though. I think our revolution is coming this year.
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Give me a break. I never said my son would not serve. He's responsible enough to have his act together and make something out of his life. What I am saying is that it makes SENSE to draft kids who are sitting on their butts 90% of the time before interrupting one who is actually gaining a useful skill.

If you can't see that, I can't help you. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Maybe if those stoners served a tour or two they would come back with some sense and start getting a LIFE. No better way to wake them up, IMO.
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Well said and well done ..parent.
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This is a fantastic idea!

My 2 lazy stepsons need to get off their fat, dead asses and see that there are more things in life than computer games and TV. They literally sit or lay every single moment they are not in school.

I hope they take obese, smart mouthed, know-it-alls!
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Exactly
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I would normal be completely against this, but seeing with my own eyes, I feel this is what the majority of the lost youth needs.
My BF's son is 19. He's been on probation since he was 15 for abusive behavior at school to his teachers & his mom & drugs. He would tell teachers to F-off if they asked him for his assignments or possibly to stay awake in class or get off youtube while they were lecturing. Nope. Couldn't do it. He even got kicked out of alternative school! Mommy & Daddy give him anything he wants (upper middle class)He attended a top 100 H.S in the nation. He's a dropout who stays home & told me his "job" is not to get arrested! He admits he doesn't want a job, because he is lazy! He & the buddies like to watch snuff films online (& brag to me about it) while his mom's at work. Sometimes passes the piss tests, sometimes doesn't, Oh well his parents say. The only people he has respect for are the probation officers because they can throw him in jail, that's the only reason. So bring it. I really think there are many like him.
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this should be ignored

it is the logical evolution

of a facist empire
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Isn't that similar to the Israeli model?
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Or Sweden?
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The government did not drill my well.
The government does not refine fuel.
The government does not produce electricity.
No one is attacking me. If they were I would defend myself along with others who were being attacked. No government needed just like minded individuals cooperating.
The government does not build roads.
The government does not provide the internet.

You are wrong on every point and the truth is we are at this point in this country because of idiots like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


Well, heck.... let's all live in a hippy commune letting peace and cooperation rule our hearts. Sheesh.. you have little concept of what IS going to take place soon enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21583061


So, in your mind being free means you are a hippie?
Peace and cooperation are bad things?
You are an idiot

I know what is going to happen soon and I know who is to blame.
I also know, based on your response which side you'll be on.
I'll be looking for you junior...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


I'm the idiot? Why do you continue to live a slave to taxes, stupid laws, dependency on government, etc. if you know and understand freedom? Wouldn't you prefer to be truly free? If so, why aren't you?
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I doubt you know what freedom really means.

Are you free? Or a willing servant of those who would see us all enslaved?

I don't choose to be a slave, it has been imposed upon me.
I do not depend on the government they are the enslavers.

Where is this place where you can be free?
I am unaware of the place if it exists, which I doubt.
And why should I or anyone have to move somewhere to find it? Running away is not the answer.

The only way to regain our freedom is to educate those who are ignorant in the hope that enough will join us in our quest for freedom.

I do this every day, It's all I can do for now.
What are you doing.
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It's actually terrifying
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Agree! Hitler's Brown Shirts?


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It will deplete the ranks of Patriots....
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This was included in Obama's "Health Care Bill"....so hasn't it already passed?? you know the one they had to pass before they read its contents.......
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They have been kicking this notion around since long before this president, so I doubt they will get it through this time.
There are some pros to this. Young people would get two years of work experience, and pay to get them started. Plus, if they got GI-bill for it then they would have money for college as well.
Another pro would be that the youth of the day could use some discipline.
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Do they work for FREE.. or are they paid.

Me thinks it's a WONDERFUL IDEA!!!
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Forced to serve the master that wants to destroy you.

Great idea........
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anyone notice the timing of this? we could see military intervention in iran,syria, northern africa or even china/japan. OR!!! use of these kids for shutting down the protests of the government in the near future
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Hummm I am not seeing all that...

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Well, heck.... let's all live in a hippy commune letting peace and cooperation rule our hearts. Sheesh.. you have little concept of what IS going to take place soon enough.
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So, in your mind being free means you are a hippie?
Peace and cooperation are bad things?
You are an idiot

I know what is going to happen soon and I know who is to blame.
I also know, based on your response which side you'll be on.
I'll be looking for you junior...
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I'm the idiot? Why do you continue to live a slave to taxes, stupid laws, dependency on government, etc. if you know and understand freedom? Wouldn't you prefer to be truly free? If so, why aren't you?
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I doubt you know what freedom really means.

Are you free? Or a willing servant of those who would see us all enslaved?

I don't choose to be a slave, it has been imposed upon me.
I do not depend on the government they are the enslavers.

Where is this place where you can be free?
I am unaware of the place if it exists, which I doubt.
And why should I or anyone have to move somewhere to find it? Running away is not the answer.

The only way to regain our freedom is to educate those who are ignorant in the hope that enough will join us in our quest for freedom.

I do this every day, It's all I can do for now.
What are you doing.
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Quest for freedom? It's a fantasy. Only a relatively few achieve it... the other sheep will always follow.
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anyone notice the timing of this? we could see military intervention in iran,syria, northern africa or even china/japan. OR!!! use of these kids for shutting down the protests of the government in the near future
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Or.... simply... the majority of 18-25 year olds are basically dependents needing to grow up and the governm
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Hummm I am not seeing all that...

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OOps sorry I found the right one


But there are exemptions listed...
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anyone notice the timing of this? we could see military intervention in iran,syria, northern africa or even china/japan. OR!!! use of these kids for shutting down the protests of the government in the near future
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Or.... simply... the majority of 18-25 year olds are basically dependents needing to grow up and the governm
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mrmuffin has it right
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anyone notice the timing of this? we could see military intervention in iran,syria, northern africa or even china/japan. OR!!! use of these kids for shutting down the protests of the government in the near future
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Or.... simply... the majority of 18-25 year olds are basically dependents needing to grow up and the governm
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mrmuffin has it right
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im in this age group, 19 in a couple weeks so yea definitely against this crap, this sounds like a draft to me

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