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Why Do People Always Say Follow Jesus When Jesus Follows God? WHY NOT JUST FOLLOW GOD??

 
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No.

But do you really want any honest answers or honest dialogue anyway?

Isn't it true that all you really want is to justify your own rejection of Jesus? Isn't that true?
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I am not Rejecting Jesus... No I am rejecting the Egotistical Crutch that is the Name of Jesus....
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Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?
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WHO? there is no WHO in the Spiritual Realm. There is only Yin and Yang. Simplest way to Put it.
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This is but one example of the evasion and deception of your heart.
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Dare?!

Quote me saying what you said I said

or you are a liar.

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No quote needed... look up d-bag
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I need no Bible Scripture here I will not read any of it.

Jesus Was the SON OF GOD HE FOLLOWS GOD.

Why follow jesus? When you can follow the SOURCE!
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It is called giving respect and love where it is due.

He lead you to that Truth.

He was the door to it.

You have just entered within.


Respect the Tyler!
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Because Jesus and the Father are one and Jesus came to be a living example for us to follow.
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YOU and the Creator are also ONE.

hf
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Yep.

rose
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Is a man that kidnaps, tortures, rapes and murders a little girl "one with God"?
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I am not Rejecting Jesus... No I am rejecting the Egotistical Crutch that is the Name of Jesus....
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Who do YOU say that Jesus Christ is?
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WHO? there is no WHO in the Spiritual Realm. There is only Yin and Yang. Simplest way to Put it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551413

This is but one example of the evasion and deception of your heart.
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Is it? or are you just Feeling Threatened that I follow a Spiritual Path that is not Regulated by the Global Church authority?
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Dare?!

Quote me saying what you said I said

or you are a liar.

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No quote needed... look up d-bag
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You cannot quote me saying any such thing because I did not say any such thing and you do not now even have the intellectual honesty to admit it.

You are a liar.
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Because Jesus and the Father are one and Jesus came to be a living example for us to follow.
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YOU and the Creator are also ONE.

hf
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Yep.

rose
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Is a man that kidnaps, tortures, rapes and murders a little girl "one with God"?
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he may not be one with G-d but he came from G-d
Eat to live. DO not live to eat.
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Jesus - "I am the way the truth and the life"

Notice how he says I AM

He is God incarnate.

God in the flesh, Jesus followed God the Spirit.
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Is it? or are you just Feeling Threatened that I follow a Spiritual Path that is not Regulated by the Global Church authority?
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I am irrelevant. I am a digital fantasy in your head.

I am not your excuse.

This is between you and the God you refuse to admit.

Your heart is set against God.

You have that right.
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Jesus - "I am the way the truth and the life"

Notice how he says I AM

He is God incarnate.

God in the flesh, Jesus followed God the Spirit.
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I AM Flesh I Follow God the Spirit I understand This Yehwah/Jesus Existed I need not Tap into him to Tap into God....
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...Regulated by the Global Church authority?
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There is no such thing.

No man but for Christ stands between me, or you, and God Almighty.
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Wait a second... so baptists are known for their abhorrent sexuality (affairs and general whore-i-ness) and catholics for their pedophilia...

But wait a moment, I thought Church was a good thing...

Face the fact that has and always will be... Give a man power and he will abuse it... It happens to dipshit managers at Mcdonalds and all the way up to Churches and pastors.

And it happened when they wrote that shit... control measures... You think a thousand different things weren't written about Jesus? You think they captured the only stories about him... bullshit, the other written items for one reason or another didn't make it into the great book of control...

I believe in God, a a creator to us all because this slap stick event of earth isn't likely to be a coincidence... I believe you need to be a good person, I hope for a nice eternal existence without believing that I am OWED one...

Now take your puked up old written bullshit and start to think...
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Don't get your panties in a bunch 446 - here is what you said:

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Why such irrational hostility?
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Is it? or are you just Feeling Threatened that I follow a Spiritual Path that is not Regulated by the Global Church authority?
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I am irrelevant. I am a digital fantasy in your head.

I am not your excuse.

This is between you and the God you refuse to admit.

Your heart is set against God.

You have that right.
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Okay You do understand that Admitting I have a Spiritual path in General Admits I Do not Deny God. I Am not a Deity Worshiper, I do not Ask Deity's for spiritual Forgiveness or for energy,

I ask the Source, That Spark of Energy that makes living possible. Life Force itself.

What makes us exist in fact is what makes us as close to god as we can be...
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...Regulated by the Global Church authority?
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There is no such thing.

No man but for Christ stands between me, or you, and God Almighty.
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By Regulated that is the image Our Word is LAW the BIBLE is the only Truth.
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Wait a second... so baptists are known for their abhorrent sexuality (affairs and general whore-i-ness) and catholics for their pedophilia...

But wait a moment, I thought Church was a good thing...

Face the fact that has and always will be... Give a man power and he will abuse it... It happens to dipshit managers at Mcdonalds and all the way up to Churches and pastors.

And it happened when they wrote that shit... control measures... You think a thousand different things weren't written about Jesus? You think they captured the only stories about him... bullshit, the other written items for one reason or another didn't make it into the great book of control...

I believe in God, a a creator to us all because this slap stick event of earth isn't likely to be a coincidence... I believe you need to be a good person, I hope for a nice eternal existence without believing that I am OWED one...

Now take your puked up old written bullshit and start to think...
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peace rofl
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It seems the faithful warriors have moved on to friendlier pastures where everyone can raise their hands up in the air, say hallelujah and then talk about how they felt god afterward... well after church and before the beer, football, and whoring around begins...
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Jesus was not just a prophet but like you said the "Son of God", God in human form. We are the "son of man" (fallen). He is our reconciliation to God. There is no relationship with God without His Son. John 3:16.
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In 325ad the council of Nicea, that was called by the roman leader Constantine, took a vote on the son of god and his relationship to god. Not everyone there believed that he was god in human form, but the It's had it and it became the official belief.
Now we all know tptb don't answer to anyone but themselves, why do you think they were listening to god?
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I am not Rejecting Jesus... No I am rejecting the Egotistical Crutch that is the Name of Jesus....
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There is no church where the shepherd is also the flock, just as the clay never becomes the potter.

Jesus isn't the Bible, He is in the Bible but the author is GOD so if you want to bypass Jesus do it with the book. Since the 'important stuff to Gentiles is the things to do with the
the end of the iron/clay empire. Even Jews can come to the same conclusions without believing in Jesus because the Gospel of John and Revelation were written by the disciple of John the Baptist. John was the last OT Prophet called by God and and such those two books are the same as Daniel so they belong together. Gentiles have permission in Luke to go as far back as Moses to find information about Him and the time between that sermon and the return and what happens after that.

That is more or less my path except the visiting threads and chatting about the best and worst parts about God. Some complain that they can't find any proof He exists, I take that to mean He's pretty good at hiding His tracks when you consider that belief today is based on what you can get out of the one single book and discussions about it. It only matters what you stance is if you happen to be alive on the day of return. If you don't read at least part of the book you don't know that to watch for or beware of.

That might get you a spot in the 1,000 years, might. If not then after the 1,000 years the ones not alive for the 1,000 years (and ruled over by Jesus) are resurrected and stand before God and greeted as having completed all their punishments so they are welcomed into the new earth. Isaiah 65 explains most of that, Revelation adds in that the punishment is 1,000 years in duration.

How about this solution OP, no verses if we restrict our discussion to Ge:1-3 and Re:20-22 Creation to the fall, the fix and what comes after if all the rest of the book was 'sealed' for this discussion. (although it would help if you read the new earth verses from Isa:65.
That is all about God pulling the strings as the group we will belong to are 'the rest'
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Follow your heart instead of imaginary entities.
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I need no Bible Scripture here I will not read any of it.

Jesus Was the SON OF GOD HE FOLLOWS GOD.

Why follow jesus? When you can follow the SOURCE!



This is like Buying Cable tv to only use the internet....

YOUR ONLY GETTING HALF WITH WHAT YOU PAID FOR PEOPLE!


Jesus was MENT to BE PROOF TO BELIEVE IN GOD not PROOF TO BELIEVE IN A Prophet.


Well Have a Good Day everyone, and Remember Jesus was only the man holding the Door open Not the one throwing the party.
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Without quoting the scripture- Jesus is our example, of proper living and thinking in order to follow God.
Since they are so many false ideas,(religions), about God, it is possible to follow a false one, so you need an example.
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Jesus was not just a prophet but like you said the "Son of God", God in human form. We are the "son of man" (fallen). He is our reconciliation to God. There is no relationship with God without His Son. John 3:16.
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In 325ad the council of Nicea, that was called by the roman leader Constantine, took a vote on the son of god and his relationship to god. Not everyone there believed that he was god in human form, but the It's had it and it became the official belief.
Now we all know tptb don't answer to anyone but themselves, why do you think they were listening to god?
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God makes the rules and Christ will enforce them. God determined that Gentiles would face judgment and it is the relationship with God that is in the 7 letters to the 7 churches. Jesus uses that as His guide when dividing the sheep from the goats. By the end of that the population of the world will be dead or alive with 1/3 being the ones that are alive.

The books chosen in 323AD are basically the NT in Greek so the text were not corrupted and that only began with those who went with the Latin Bible. If the 12 Tribes went off track within 800 years then the Church would have been in the same condition by about 830AD as far as the teaching went but the Greek text remained the same, just not opened as it conflicted with what was being taught to the people. Making the Church more than publishers and interest free bankers.
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Is a man that kidnaps, tortures, rapes and murders a little girl "one with God"?
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Yes.

But it is because he is not aware that he is,

that he does the things he does.


Society reinforces his delusion,

with their own judgement that he is not,

rather than heal him into the reality that he is.



The road of compassion heals,

not condemns.
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Is a man that kidnaps, tortures, rapes and murders a little girl "one with God"?
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Yes.

But it is because he is not aware that he is,

that he does the things he does.


Society reinforces his delusion,

with their own judgement that he is not,

rather than heal him into the reality that he is.



The road of compassion heals,

not condemns.
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Is Satan "one with god"?
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Is a man that kidnaps, tortures, rapes and murders a little girl "one with God"?
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Yes.

But it is because he is not aware that he is,

that he does the things he does.


Society reinforces his delusion,

with their own judgement that he is not,

rather than heal him into the reality that he is.



The road of compassion heals,

not condemns.
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Is Satan "one with God"?
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Follow your heart instead of imaginary entities.
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Ted Bundy followed his heart.

Jeffrey Dahmer followed his heart.

Anders Behring Breivik followed his heart.


"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
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Is a man that kidnaps, tortures, rapes and murders a little girl "one with God"?
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Yes.

But it is because he is not aware that he is,

that he does the things he does.


Society reinforces his delusion,

with their own judgement that he is not,

rather than heal him into the reality that he is.



The road of compassion heals,

not condemns.
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Is Satan "one with God"?
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Satan wants to be better than God. He wants to replace Him.
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I need no Bible Scripture here I will not read any of it.

Jesus Was the SON OF GOD HE FOLLOWS GOD.

Why follow jesus? When you can follow the SOURCE!



This is like Buying Cable tv to only use the internet....

YOUR ONLY GETTING HALF WITH WHAT YOU PAID FOR PEOPLE!


Jesus was MENT to BE PROOF TO BELIEVE IN GOD not PROOF TO BELIEVE IN A Prophet.


Well Have a Good Day everyone, and Remember Jesus was only the man holding the Door open Not the one throwing the party.
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I agree with the title partially. Any person reading the bible can clearly see God is one. Jesus fulfilled the laws and he is not no new testament. That is a white lie of bull shit. God's religion never changes. There is only one religion and that is of submission to God.

Here is the God is one verses:

Deuteronomy 4:35,39, Deuteronomy 6:4,Deuteronomy32:39, 2 Samuel 7:22, 1 Kings 8:60, 2 KINGS 5:15, 2 Kings 19:15, 1 Chronicles 17:20, Nehemiah 9:6, Psalm 18:31, Psalm 86:10, Isaiah 37:16,20, Isaiah43:10,11, Isaiah44:6,8, Isaiah 46:9, Hosea 13:4,Joel 2:27, John 17:3 , Romans 3:30, 1 Corinthians 8:4-6, Galatians 3:20, Ephesians 4:6, 1 Timothy 1:17, 1 Timothy 2:5, James 2:19, Zechariah 14:9, Mark 12:29-34.

then you get the "before Abraham was I am.

cool story bro!

Jesus and God are one, Just like the coaches of a football team and the players are. John 17 states the same thing that God, Jesus and his disciples are one in mission and Jesus FINISHED his work he was given. Add in the Holy spirit and then you have the Quadrinity lol or if you add all the individual , you have the 14inity....

To follow what Jesus did is the path to God. That is what God gave him to teach. But he didn't say I'm God follow me. God is explicit in His Oneness throughout the bible, but yet the church and man teach different. God knows best.
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S.O.S....

So the Jews are going to hell because they don't follow Jesus?

See the previous arguments of OP and myself...

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People use jesus as a crutch to continue life... just be a good person without the promise of ultimate forgivenes...
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The words of Yeshua say it best. "I am the way, the truth and the life NO MAN comes unto the Father but by Me."

Yeshua was Jewish, the early church was started by Jews. There have been messianic Jews since Pentecost (birth of the church) and there are even larger numbers of Jews accepting Yeshua as the true Jewish Messiah today.

It comes down to anyone (Jew or Gentile) that does not believe on Yeshua for their salvation before they die will go to Hell. No if ands or buts. Just because the chosen people do not choose their Savior does not get them a free pass to Heaven.
 Quoting: S.O.S.


So everyone Pre Jesus went to Hell? Even people who lived in India whom had the Perfect Lifestyles Went to hell cause they never heard of this Jesus?
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OP, you should really study the bible more before coming to GLP and post threads showing your ignorance.

Read Luke 16 about Abraham's Bosom - here is a synopsis for you.

Believers in God the Savior that died prior to the Saviors arrival as a man went to Abraham's Bosom - still hell, but a place of waiting for the Messiah. No fire, torments or suffering. Those that did not believe or trust in the Savior went to the fires of hell.

When Yeshua descended to hell he took those in Abraham's Bosom with him to heaven when he rose from the dead. And he did rise from the dead.... but it looks like you will have to see it for yourself. You will... but I fear it will be a most terrible event for you... unless you repent.... getting on with it.... He took his believers, yes, even before he was known as Yeshua the man.

Here is something that better explains it:


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