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You won't need to tie off anything. I did have to cut a few umbilical cords when my cat had kittens...the mom usually takes care of everything. What I have done with both my mom, cats is after they have the kittens put her and the kittens in a animal carrier overnight so she is forced to bond with them and not flake out. Then in the morning put her in a cozy hamper with some towels. If you can put her in a separate room with a litterbox and some water and food. Also start feeding her kitten food so she gets all the important nutrients she needs to feed them. Remember that kittens need a warmer temp so put them in a room with a small heater so the room is like 78 degrees until they are older. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.
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why won't you need to tie it off? I'm confused with that. I mean can't the kittens get infections or something if not tied? Sorry if I sound like an idiot my first time here lol

The box I posted about is in a separate room which is very warm like the whole house and also I got separate litter box for my other cat for when the kittens arrive. I will just put that downstairs somewhere for him with food and water :)

So the momma should be eating kitten food? I did not know that. Thank you for all the advice and for letting me ask more questions. added the kitten food to the rite aid list :)

hf
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Because cord blood is very high in clotting factors. I have just held a cord pinched together for about 45 seconds and it clots for small Yorkies. But cats are very private and protective and she will not want your hand on her babies so don't touch unless there is excessive bleeding or one is stuck.

And don't shake or sling the kittens to clear their airways as some suggest! If one if not breathing, hold it head slanted down on it's belly and rub with warm bath cloth and it will start to breath if it's going to. The most would be one of those little suction bulb syringes that are used on babies' noses.

Practice putting her in her box and tell her to put the kittens in there. You'd be surprised at how they eventually get the idea.
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Kittens hearts

Most of the complications I have seen with kittens involve the mom not accepting one, rather than the delivery itself.
Personally, I would have a kitten bottle and kitten formula on hand just to lower the stress and panic of a having a day old kitten that's not being fed if that occurs.
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Just wanted to add that my cat was a litter reject and he grew up fine other than being a bit of a doofus when it comes to socialising with other kitties.
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Both of mine were...but Kalika is so tiny...I got Batman first. Thought he was gonna be tiny to...but nope normal sized cat. The only thing with Batman is that he can be like the cat from hell seriously. When it comes to anyone he does not know or any animal he does not know. He flips out. I have never seen a cat get like that before him. I can't even go near him myself when he is like that. So yeah hes an odd one in that respect lol

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Please have her spayed. Spend ten minutes of your day and walk through the shelter. When you leave remember their faces. Only 10% will find a home.

The rest will be euthanized.
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I know...I have been to one a few times in my life :( I do plan to AC...just got a pm from a super nice poster who gave me some great advice on vouchers for free spay. Gonna try to find the details for my area...

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You won't need to tie off anything. I did have to cut a few umbilical cords when my cat had kittens...the mom usually takes care of everything. What I have done with both my mom, cats is after they have the kittens put her and the kittens in a animal carrier overnight so she is forced to bond with them and not flake out. Then in the morning put her in a cozy hamper with some towels. If you can put her in a separate room with a litterbox and some water and food. Also start feeding her kitten food so she gets all the important nutrients she needs to feed them. Remember that kittens need a warmer temp so put them in a room with a small heater so the room is like 78 degrees until they are older. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25531744


why won't you need to tie it off? I'm confused with that. I mean can't the kittens get infections or something if not tied? Sorry if I sound like an idiot my first time here lol

The box I posted about is in a separate room which is very warm like the whole house and also I got separate litter box for my other cat for when the kittens arrive. I will just put that downstairs somewhere for him with food and water :)

So the momma should be eating kitten food? I did not know that. Thank you for all the advice and for letting me ask more questions. added the kitten food to the rite aid list :)

hf
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Because cord blood is very high in clotting factors. I have just held a cord pinched together for about 45 seconds and it clots for small Yorkies. But cats are very private and protective and she will not want your hand on her babies so don't touch unless there is excessive bleeding or one is stuck.

And don't shake or sling the kittens to clear their airways as some suggest! If one if not breathing, hold it head slanted down on it's belly and rub with warm bath cloth and it will start to breath if it's going to. The most would be one of those little suction bulb syringes that are used on babies' noses.

Practice putting her in her box and tell her to put the kittens in there. You'd be surprised at how they eventually get the idea.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Oh I see you just pinch it. Wow... okay...well I went to the store and got my supplies anyway....but that makes sense now to me lol

I know I plan to wear gloves if I need to help out in anyway. I got a whole bunch of those doctors gloves.

The link that was provided from an ac on this thread...said the same thing about the warm washcloth and the suction syringe. I still have one from when my son was younger so that's good.

I have tried time and time again to put her in that box for days now. She goes in comes right back out. She follows me everywhere...right now she is behind me laying on the rug. I can't even go to the bathroom without here meowing to get in to me. So...I think she will go into labor with me around her. Just a feeling I got.

So now she has only eaten twice today and is drinking...but sleeping tons. Unless I move lol

I am keeping watch lol

Thank you Bluebird :)

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I wonder if olive oil might be a better lubricant? At least it's edible. I use it on my hens when they're egg bound.
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I wonder if olive oil might be a better lubricant? At least it's edible. I use it on my hens when they're egg bound.
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I got that in the house...I always have olive oil. hmmm...like you said its edible if I have to intervene and pull one of the kittens out...

Good idea thanks AC :)

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Most cats are naturally good moms and instinct takes over, some are dumber than dirt and will let their babies die...but this is rare, thankfully.

If they are normal, they'll usually be OK and not need any help from you. But if you get a dumbass, be prepared to possibly have to pull the birth sac off and trim the cord. Leave it very long, it will dry up and fall off later on.

Watch that she doesn't freak and take off running mid-birth - close any escape routes ahead of time. I've delivered dozens of litters, usually goes fine.
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Most cats are naturally good moms and instinct takes over, some are dumber than dirt and will let their babies die...but this is rare, thankfully.

If they are normal, they'll usually be OK and not need any help from you. But if you get a dumbass, be prepared to possibly have to pull the birth sac off and trim the cord. Leave it very long, it will dry up and fall off later on.

Watch that she doesn't freak and take off running mid-birth - close any escape routes ahead of time. I've delivered dozens of litters, usually goes fine.
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freak out with the baby still attached? oh dear lord. Okay I plan to keep her in one room. If I can while she delivers...I think she will do it upstairs away from the dog...crossing fingers. Awesome advice thank you Cat Man :)

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My cats always liked the closet as their birthing center. Keep your closet door open and lay some towels or other soft things she can "nest" in with the kitties. She will try to move them if there too much attention paid to them.

Let us know what happens.
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My cats always liked the closet as their birthing center. Keep your closet door open and lay some towels or other soft things she can "nest" in with the kitties. She will try to move them if there too much attention paid to them.

Let us know what happens.
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oh good idea...damn time to break out all the bad towels I can find. You have to see my house. I got blankets on my sectional. Blankets covering my comforter...blankets covering my lazy boy chair. Now I will have towels too...lol

And I am a neat freak...so I am contantly walking around fixing everything sigh...I better get off here and do that then. Thank you Hapless I will bump the thread with any new info.

hugs

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I had a pregnant feral cat loose in our house when she gave birth early in the morning. We ran downstairs to find a baby still in its sac and she ran off. I had to get the kitten out of the sac and then get him breathing and then get slightly mauled grabbing the mom cat and putting her in a carrier. Fun stuff.
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If the kittens have trouble nursing (if they have trouble "latching on" to the nipple) warm some of the kitten milk you bought and using an eyedropper, put a drop or two right on the nipple. The kittens will find it and try to suck it up....they should eventually latch on.

Also, you really don't need to intervene. Just realize that the cat WILL scream when the kitten comes out. Don't let it freak you out.

And finally, the mom will eat the placenta and chew the cord. You don't have to do anything in most cases. Remember, the placenta has nutrients that the mother needs....she usually does this in between deliveries. They each take time to come out, they don't come out one right after the other.

Good luck!!!
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Are there kittens yet?
Are they here yet?
Are they here yet?
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I've never tied anything off either.Usually the mom knows what to do but sometimes if she is really young she may need help.All of my momma cats wanted me there.I once tried to leave while my cat was giving birth and she got up to follow me with a baby hanging out.I never tried to leave again after that.And yes I'm the cat lady.
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You won't need to tie off anything. I did have to cut a few umbilical cords when my cat had kittens...the mom usually takes care of everything. What I have done with both my mom, cats is after they have the kittens put her and the kittens in a animal carrier overnight so she is forced to bond with them and not flake out. Then in the morning put her in a cozy hamper with some towels. If you can put her in a separate room with a litterbox and some water and food. Also start feeding her kitten food so she gets all the important nutrients she needs to feed them. Remember that kittens need a warmer temp so put them in a room with a small heater so the room is like 78 degrees until they are older. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25531744


why won't you need to tie it off? I'm confused with that. I mean can't the kittens get infections or something if not tied? Sorry if I sound like an idiot my first time here lol

The box I posted about is in a separate room which is very warm like the whole house and also I got separate litter box for my other cat for when the kittens arrive. I will just put that downstairs somewhere for him with food and water :)

So the momma should be eating kitten food? I did not know that. Thank you for all the advice and for letting me ask more questions. added the kitten food to the rite aid list :)

hf
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Pointless to use floss or thread or think you have to "tie off" the umbilical cord. DON'T DO THAT. MOM MIGHT SWALLOW THE FLOSS OR THREAD.
The mother kitty chews it off just like a dr. cuts human cords..AND she might even eat the placenta.

Please don't interfere with her while she's laboring. She needs your tender soft reassurance words and strokes, and will be grateful to have that from you.
Just be sure she has some fresh water and can step out and have a break for a cigarette.


Show her a soft little nest in a closet box or pile of clean towels out of sight. Or under your bed and show her.
You're her mommy you know.
Just don't upset her by shrieking while she's in labor..that isn't at all helpful.

Small as she is you'd be surprised she'll either have just two or so.
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I had a pregnant feral cat loose in our house when she gave birth early in the morning. We ran downstairs to find a baby still in its sac and she ran off. I had to get the kitten out of the sac and then get him breathing and then get slightly mauled grabbing the mom cat and putting her in a carrier. Fun stuff.
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oh wow...yes I didn't realize the cat might flip out with the baby still attached...I am prepared for anything...except C section if that might have to happen. I will a way though if it comes to that.

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If the kittens have trouble nursing (if they have trouble "latching on" to the nipple) warm some of the kitten milk you bought and using an eyedropper, put a drop or two right on the nipple. The kittens will find it and try to suck it up....they should eventually latch on.

Also, you really don't need to intervene. Just realize that the cat WILL scream when the kitten comes out. Don't let it freak you out.

And finally, the mom will eat the placenta and chew the cord. You don't have to do anything in most cases. Remember, the placenta has nutrients that the mother needs....she usually does this in between deliveries. They each take time to come out, they don't come out one right after the other.

Good luck!!!
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Thank you So much for your post. Definitley good advice there. Yes I should count the number of placentas and make sure there is each one for each kitten. :) Thanks again...

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Are there kittens yet?
Are they here yet?
Are they here yet?
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Okay so when I first posted this her temp was 100.8 now today it's 100.1? I don't think I can really go by the temps or maybe my digital is messed up.

Well the update is she is now leaking fluid looks like her period. She is not panting but breathing very heavy. Any day now? I hope...maybe tonight...I am still keeping a watch...but since she is now at this stage and constantly licking down there she is close.

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Are there kittens yet?
Are they here yet?
Are they here yet?
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Okay so when I first posted this her temp was 100.8 now today it's 100.1? I don't think I can really go by the temps or maybe my digital is messed up.

Well the update is she is now leaking fluid looks like her period. She is not panting but breathing very heavy. Any day now? I hope...maybe tonight...I am still keeping a watch...but since she is now at this stage and constantly licking down there she is close.

hf
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Probably tonight if there's stuff going on in that region.
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I've never tied anything off either.Usually the mom knows what to do but sometimes if she is really young she may need help.All of my momma cats wanted me there.I once tried to leave while my cat was giving birth and she got up to follow me with a baby hanging out.I never tried to leave again after that.And yes I'm the cat lady.
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I can't go anywhere without her following me...I just know she will do with me around. I have been lugging this box upstairs with me downstairs lol. I think she's getting the hint about the box...but she likes the blankets better... go figure. I will just keep doing what I am doing with the box lol

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You won't need to tie off anything. I did have to cut a few umbilical cords when my cat had kittens...the mom usually takes care of everything. What I have done with both my mom, cats is after they have the kittens put her and the kittens in a animal carrier overnight so she is forced to bond with them and not flake out. Then in the morning put her in a cozy hamper with some towels. If you can put her in a separate room with a litterbox and some water and food. Also start feeding her kitten food so she gets all the important nutrients she needs to feed them. Remember that kittens need a warmer temp so put them in a room with a small heater so the room is like 78 degrees until they are older. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25531744


why won't you need to tie it off? I'm confused with that. I mean can't the kittens get infections or something if not tied? Sorry if I sound like an idiot my first time here lol

The box I posted about is in a separate room which is very warm like the whole house and also I got separate litter box for my other cat for when the kittens arrive. I will just put that downstairs somewhere for him with food and water :)

So the momma should be eating kitten food? I did not know that. Thank you for all the advice and for letting me ask more questions. added the kitten food to the rite aid list :)

hf
 Quoting: Spirit666


Pointless to use floss or thread or think you have to "tie off" the umbilical cord. DON'T DO THAT. MOM MIGHT SWALLOW THE FLOSS OR THREAD.
The mother kitty chews it off just like a dr. cuts human cords..AND she might even eat the placenta.

Please don't interfere with her while she's laboring. She needs your tender soft reassurance words and strokes, and will be grateful to have that from you.
Just be sure she has some fresh water and can step out and have a break for a cigarette.


Show her a soft little nest in a closet box or pile of clean towels out of sight. Or under your bed and show her.
You're her mommy you know.
Just don't upset her by shrieking while she's in labor..that isn't at all helpful.

Small as she is you'd be surprised she'll either have just two or so.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


Well thank you for the advice like I stated earlier in this thread I DO NOT plan to intervene unless there are problems. I got blankets covering everything and towels covering the bottom of all closets just in case....plus the damn box lol

Yes I don't expect her to have more than two but you never know...she is very tiny...we will see :) Thank you Dawa!

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Are there kittens yet?
Are they here yet?
Are they here yet?
 Quoting: The Loophole


Okay so when I first posted this her temp was 100.8 now today it's 100.1? I don't think I can really go by the temps or maybe my digital is messed up.

Well the update is she is now leaking fluid looks like her period. She is not panting but breathing very heavy. Any day now? I hope...maybe tonight...I am still keeping a watch...but since she is now at this stage and constantly licking down there she is close.

hf
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Probably tonight if there's stuff going on in that region.
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 Quoting: The Loophole


oh I hope so Loophole...yes and she is not eating at all either...I read on that link the ac provided on this thread that the leaking and licking can start like 3 days before delivery. I mean I thought she was super close when I first posted this I don't know honey lol but I am excited...not so much worried anymore.

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Cool thread, make sure to keep us updated when it all unfolds. Maybe have an extra set of hands to take pictures of the moment!
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Tonight's the night.
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That's what it seems like Hapless...I plan on being up tonight late so we will see :)

I keep telling her baby kitties soon Mama Kalika...lol

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Awwww...spring kittens!
Hopefully all goes well with the kittehs!
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That's what it seems like Hapless...I plan on being up tonight late so we will see :)

I keep telling her baby kitties soon Mama Kalika...lol

hf
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Got names picked out for them yet? Hapless would make a great tom cat name.
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Tonight's the night.
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That's what it seems like Hapless...I plan on being up tonight late so we will see :)

I keep telling her baby kitties soon Mama Kalika...lol

hf
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I can never sex the rascals right and have ended up with Lionel and Sylvester both having litters in the past.

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Cool thread, make sure to keep us updated when it all unfolds. Maybe have an extra set of hands to take pictures of the moment!
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Thank you! and will do Gurunade! :)

hf

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All God's angels come to us disguised.
~ James Russell Lowell

An angel can illuminate the thought and mind of man by strengthening the power of vision.
~ St Thomas Aquinas

Music is said to be the speech of angels.
~ Thomas Carlyle

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