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Growing Earth and Electric Universe team up to Explain 'missing mass'

 
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Very interesting idea here on the expanding earth theories. I came across it on Mike Philbin's website. It looks like the idea was sprung when the author saw this video of a coronal mass ejection hitting Earth. Of course it is an animation, but is beautiful to watch.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here it is, here's NASA's evidence for the amount of pseudo-matter that is directed towards Earth (and all the other planets in the Solar System) on a daily basis in the form of electric discharge from an Electric Universe 'furnace' i.e. the Sun, it's called a Coronal Mass Ejection and it's a PLASMA. (see video above)

One of the big contentions of the Warren S Carey's EXPANDING EARTH concept - [link to www.wincom.net] - popularised spectacularly by Neal Adams Growing Earth videos is, "Where does the extra matter needed to fuel the 'growing earth' come from?" [link to mikephilbin.blogspot.co.uk]

...The lovely NASA video above shows how (were this an Electric Universe not a nuclear one) such 'exchange of matter' takes place from the Sun to Earth. This could fuel what some scientists call a LUDICROUS GROWING EARTH theory...

...The Sun throws the matter-generating FUEL at the earth almost every day, more so when there are solar maxima, and that (somehow) causing the magma to accumulate, pushing the solid plates of the Earth further apart...
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There are a few considerations about this theory that need to be expanded upon, but it is an extremely interesting take on expanding earth theory.

When the sun ejects charged particles and energies most of it is deflected by the magnetosphere. The more highly charged the energy/particles the more the magnetosphere is 'activated' (so to speak) to block out the harmful radiation. This is inclusive of interstellar gamma particles (cosmic rays) that make it through the heliosphere and hit earth's magnetosphere.

Occassionally these charged particles are able to make it through the magnetosphere boundary. When they do, the majority of those get trapped between the Van Allen Belts. There are two Van Allen Belts though a third one has just been discovered (recently created), which scientists are now trying to figure out how that new belt was formed. The charged particles 'ping' back and forth between the two Van Allen Belts, trapped. Occasionally some of those that are trapped make it through one of the layers. If one of these charged particles make it through the top layer, I imagine it gets entangled in the magnetosphere, eventually to be released back out into our local heliospheric environment. Then there are ones that penetrate the bottom Vn Allen Belt and make a quick journey to the surface of the earth.

This second scenario, I believe, is what is being referenced to in the article.

Over long enough periods, and especially during solar maxes and higher magnetic density environments outside our heliosphere (as IBEX and Voyager 1 and 2 have proven we have recently entered), I can definitely envision this proposition.

At this point, it would be dependent on how much these charged particles would increase the size of the actual earth. Would it be enough to make the kind of changes that are theorized in the expanding earth theory?

I am a person who never sees in black and white. I see it all as percentages. In other words, this would not be the only solution to an expanding earth. But, would be inclusive as another piece of the puzzle.

Saying that, I am not for or against the expanding earth theories, though I do see more validation pointing to an expanding earth.
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thanks for posting this, Chad, I couldn't get in for the last couple of days due to one of those 'blanket ip bans' i.e. my section of the btinternet isp, or maybe all of it. Who knows.

Hmm, wonder when this Schumann Resonance Research will start to bear fruit ... got a very interesting email from a 30-year researcher today who suggests he's found the bone pair in sea bass that allows for global navigation via this 7.8hz earth signal.

It's all very interesting ... and I can envision a new release of an old John Lennon song:

Imagine there's no fusion, it's easy if you try.
No gravity below us, above us only plasma discharge.


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Nice visuals there, liking it.

Have any theories on the new belt being built?

Could be be as simple as our interaction with earth, and earth guardian, our understanding of the cosmos is growing, and through feedback with guardian of earth it has added an extra layer as we are seeing what might come, or the earth see's what might come with solar max and has prepared for it.

I did not know about the extra belt being discovered/created, thanks ss, you do a good service here and you are very appreciated.

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if you excite the electrons into a further orbit... 'matter' expands
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Dang OP, another fav' subject. Great vid.
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Dang OP, another fav' subject. Great vid.
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Beautiful video, isn't it...
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Electric Universe is the true model bump

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If the sun is outputting energy, which is being turned into carbon by plants and trees and in turn and animals. The question really is how on earth can the planet NOT be growing?

The collected energy from the sun has to go somewhere. All you have to do it lie a bamboo cane on a forest floor and come back to in in a couple of years. It will be under a couple of inches of earth. now imagine that over billions of years.
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If the sun is outputting energy, which is being turned into carbon by plants and trees and in turn and animals. The question really is how on earth can the planet NOT be growing?

The collected energy from the sun has to go somewhere. All you have to do it lie a bamboo cane on a forest floor and come back to in in a couple of years. It will be under a couple of inches of earth. now imagine that over billions of years.
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Yeah, and not much gets ejected out of the atmosphere either.
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New "matter" has been expanding "from the void" since the beginning. We are just seeing a continuation of this when we see all bodies expand. We are in accelerated expansion. Where do you think matter came from? From the void.

There has been a balance from the beginning in that whatever appears will eventually disappear. When we see what we see now, we are seeing it in this "time" but time has no dimensions, so it can be seen to happen instantly if our minds. When time is removed so is all motion and dimension. We can remove time, and then see the balance of expansion and contraction happening all at once. There you have your balance 1 + (-1) = 0.

Look into the atom. The more you split the parts the more you see there is no undividable substance. It's a trick of time and dimension that makes it seems to be there.
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There are a few considerations about this theory that need to be expanded upon, but it is an extremely interesting take on expanding earth theory.

When the sun ejects charged particles and energies most of it is deflected by the magnetosphere. The more highly charged the energy/particles the more the magnetosphere is 'activated' (so to speak) to block out the harmful radiation. This is inclusive of interstellar gamma particles (cosmic rays) that make it through the heliosphere and hit earth's magnetosphere.

Occassionally these charged particles are able to make it through the magnetosphere boundary. When they do, the majority of those get trapped between the Van Allen Belts. There are two Van Allen Belts though a third one has just been discovered (recently created), which scientists are now trying to figure out how that new belt was formed. The charged particles 'ping' back and forth between the two Van Allen Belts, trapped. Occasionally some of those that are trapped make it through one of the layers. If one of these charged particles make it through the top layer, I imagine it gets entangled in the magnetosphere, eventually to be released back out into our local heliospheric environment. Then there are ones that penetrate the bottom Vn Allen Belt and make a quick journey to the surface of the earth.

This second scenario, I believe, is what is being referenced to in the article.

Over long enough periods, and especially during solar maxes and higher magnetic density environments outside our heliosphere (as IBEX and Voyager 1 and 2 have proven we have recently entered), I can definitely envision this proposition.

At this point, it would be dependent on how much these charged particles would increase the size of the actual earth. Would it be enough to make the kind of changes that are theorized in the expanding earth theory?

I am a person who never sees in black and white. I see it all as percentages. In other words, this would not be the only solution to an expanding earth. But, would be inclusive as another piece of the puzzle.

Saying that, I am not for or against the expanding earth theories, though I do see more validation pointing to an expanding earth.
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The way I "see" it is that the energy in our energy belts (fed by the sun) is translated into the earth at/by our poles. It keeps the core hot and quite likely adds mass to our earth. Solar ejections aside, we are continually bathed in this energy 24/7/forever.
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New "matter" has been expanding "from the void" since the beginning. We are just seeing a continuation of this when we see all bodies expand. We are in accelerated expansion. Where do you think matter came from? From the void.

There has been a balance from the beginning in that whatever appears will eventually disappear. When we see what we see now, we are seeing it in this "time" but time has no dimensions, so it can be seen to happen instantly if our minds. When time is removed so is all motion and dimension. We can remove time, and then see the balance of expansion and contraction happening all at once. There you have your balance 1 + (-1) = 0.

Look into the atom. The more you split the parts the more you see there is no undividable substance. It's a trick of time and dimension that makes it seems to be there.
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If the earths core is molten iron, when the suns magnetic field envelopes the planet, it would logically induce energy into the core of the earth causing it to heat-up. That would at least partially explain global warming and as the core heats-up it would expand.

An expanding core would explain and expanding earth. If not, at he very least, would cause earthquakes and an increase in volcanic activity.

Does this make any sense?
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The way I "see" it is that the energy in our energy belts (fed by the sun) is translated into the earth at/by our poles. It keeps the core hot and quite likely adds mass to our earth. Solar ejections aside, we are continually bathed in this energy 24/7/forever.


This^^^

Except....the energy doesn't have to be transmitted to the core via the poles. A magnetic core, being places in a magnetic field, would cause the core to heat-up.

As the energy of the sun increases so does the ability to induce the core......I think.

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accretion from space and from formation of matter from solar do occur.

in addition, the earth is also hollow and cavernous. during different times, some elements in these caverns are reheated from cosmic forces and outgas.

so it can both expand like a balloon from the center hollow and the crust can bulge on different areas w/c when cooled and followed by another bulge nearby create growth in size.

the change in tilt if drastic enough will change the location of the centrifugal bulge which readjust to the new equator after shift of tilt or poles.
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If the earths core is molten iron, when the suns magnetic field envelopes the planet, it would logically induce energy into the core of the earth causing it to heat-up. That would at least partially explain global warming and as the core heats-up it would expand.

An expanding core would explain and expanding earth. If not, at he very least, would cause earthquakes and an increase in volcanic activity.

Does this make any sense?
 Quoting: Cosmic Traveler



molten iron is free to change their atomic poles. it will not create magnet that is supposed to be what gravity is. one way to create a magnet is to melt it and then apply differently poled magnetic force on either side. and when it cools, the atomic poles are stuck in their orientation tendency.

a hollow ball can also explain expansion.
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If the earths core is molten iron, when the suns magnetic field envelopes the planet, it would logically induce energy into the core of the earth causing it to heat-up. That would at least partially explain global warming and as the core heats-up it would expand.

An expanding core would explain and expanding earth. If not, at he very least, would cause earthquakes and an increase in volcanic activity.

Does this make any sense?
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nope.
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If the earths core is molten iron, when the suns magnetic field envelopes the planet, it would logically induce energy into the core of the earth causing it to heat-up. That would at least partially explain global warming and as the core heats-up it would expand.

An expanding core would explain and expanding earth. If not, at he very least, would cause earthquakes and an increase in volcanic activity.

Does this make any sense?
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nope.
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lmao
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Nice OP ..

Give the man flags so he can pin own thread, mods are not to0 interested in this or similar area ..
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Nice OP ..

Give the man flags so he can pin own thread, mods are not to0 interested in this or similar area ..
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Hey Rain-Man. Good to see you on the thread.

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Nice OP ..

Give the man flags so he can pin own thread, mods are not to0 interested in this or similar area ..
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Greeny's are for this purpose or similar, we all need real education ..

Always nice to see your threads OP ..

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Nice OP ..

Give the man flags so he can pin own thread, mods are not to0 interested in this or similar area ..
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Greeny's are for this purpose or similar, we all need real education ..

Always nice to see your threads OP ..

hf
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Thanks. And, I agree the mods don't really like pinning these kinds of threads. They seem to like politics and current events.
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Re: Growing Earth and Electric Universe team up to Explain 'missing mass'
The earth's diameter has increased apparently by a factor of three during the last 250 million yrs - but seems to have been constant before.


Captured protons, neutrons from the sun is I would expect many orders of magnitude to small to account for this, and besides it it obvious that the extra matter is accumulating inside the earth, not being deposited on the surface.


In esoteric circles it has long been acknowledged that the job of organic life is to capture, process and transform cosmic energies for the growth of the planet. This is how the extra mass arrives - at the end of a cycle the lower astral of the time condenses directly into the physical, causing a new round of earth expansion and earth changes and a shiny new astral to begin a new 'golden age cycle'.
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