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Colorado to All Ban Shotguns. Existing guns will be ILLEGAL to Sell, Transfer, or Lend. Illegal to lend to Your Own Kids While Hunting

 
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Warning for those in Colorado. Your State Legislators are pushing a bill through that will ban all shotguns and your Governor says he is going to sign it.

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But, Uncle Joe Biden told us we should buy shotguns. What reasoning are these libtards in Colorado giving for going against Uncle Joe's wishes?
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Everyone in Colorado that owns a gun should point it at the legislature.
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I guess these clowns won't be satisfied until they start a civil war.
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The Dick Act of 1902
Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654, June 28, 1902. Congressional Record, House, pages 7706-7713 and 321-353, 7594-7595. Also known as the Dick Act of 1902, written by Representative Dick, passed by Congress on June 30, 1902.

The three classes H.R. 11654 provides for are the organized militia, henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, Territory and District of Columbia, the unorganized militia and the regular army. The militia encompasses every able-bodied male between the ages of 18 and 45. All members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms of any type, and as many as they can afford to buy.

The Dick Act of 1902 cannot be repealed; to do so would violate bills of attainder and ex post facto laws which would be yet another gross violation of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The President of the United States has zero authority without violating the Constitution to call the National Guard to serve outside of their State borders.

The National Guard Militia can only be required by the National Government for limited purposes specified in the Constitution (to uphold the laws of the Union; to suppress insurrection and repel invasion). These are the only purposes for which the General Government can call upon the National Guard.
Attorney General Wickersham advised President Taft, "the Organized Militia (the National Guard) can not be employed for offensive warfare outside the limits of the United States."

The Honorable William Gordon, in a speech to the House on Thursday, October 4, 1917, proved that the action of President Wilson in ordering the Organized Militia (the National Guard) to fight a war in Europe was so blatantly unconstitutional that he felt Wilson ought to have been impeached.

During the war with England an attempt was made by Congress to pass a bill authorizing the president to draft 100,000 men between the ages of 18 and 45 to invade enemy territory, Canada. The bill was defeated in the House by Daniel Webster on the precise point that Congress had no such power over the militia as to authorize it to empower the President to draft them into the regular army and send them out of the country.

The fact is that the President has no constitutional right, under any circumstances, to draft men from the militia to fight outside the borders of the USA, and not even beyond the borders of their respective states. Today, we have a constitutional LAW which still stands in waiting for the legislators to obey the Constitution which they swore an oath to uphold.

Charles Hughes of the American Bar Association (ABA) made a speech which is contained in the Appendix to Congressional Record, House, September 10, 1917, pages 6836-6840 which states: "The militia, within the meaning of these provisions of the Constitution is distinct from the Army of the United States." In these pages we also find a statement made by Daniel Webster, "that the great principle of the Constitution on that subject is that the militia is the militia of the States and of the General Government; and thus being the militia of the States, there is no part of the Constitution worded with greater care and with more scrupulous jealousy than that which grants and limits the power of Congress over it."

"This limitation upon the power to raise and support armies clearly establishes the intent and purpose of the framers of the Constitution to limit the power to raise and maintain a standing army to voluntary enlistment, because if the unlimited power to draft and conscript was intended to be conferred, it would have been a useless and puerile thing to limit the use of money for that purpose. Conscripted armies can be paid, but they are not required to be, and if it had been intended to confer the extraordinary power to draft the bodies of citizens and send them out of the country in direct conflict with the limitation upon the use of the militia imposed by the same section and article, certainly some restriction or limitation would have been imposed to restrain the unlimited use of such power."

The Honorable William Gordon
Congressional Record, House, Page 640 - 1917


"Be it enacted that the militia shall consist of every able-bodied male citizen, respective of States, Territories, and the District of Columbia and every able-bodied male of foreign birth who has declared his intention to become a citizen, who is more than 18 and less than 45 years of age, shall be divided into three classes; the organized militia, to be known as The National Guard of the State, Territory or District of Columbia, or by such other designations by the laws of the respective States or Territories, as may be given by the laws of the respective States or Territories, the national voluntary reserve as provided in this act, and the remainder to be known as the reserve militia."

The Militia Act and the revised Militia Act (the Dick Act), make it quite clear that all men between the ages of 18 and 45 are the (unorganized) militia with an absolute right to keep and bear Arms under the Article II of the Bill of Rights, of whatever type; automatic or semi-automatic, regardless of size, magazine capacity, barrel length or caliber/gauge in any quantity they may deem necessary along with any amount of ammunition they may determine from time to time.

"The Right to Keep and Bear Arms Report", of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the United States Senate Judiciary Committee; Ninety-seventh Congress, second session, February 1982. Orrin Hatch, Chairman.
"That the National Guard is not the "Militia" referred to in the Second Amendment is even clearer today. Congress has organized the National Guard under its power to "raise and support armies", and not its power to "Provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia." This Congress chose to do so in the interest of organizing reserve military units which were not limited in deployment by the strictures of our power over Constitutional militia, which can be called forth only "to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrection, and repel invasions." The modern National Guard was specifically intended to avoid status as the Constitutional militia, a distinction recognized by Title 10 United States Code 311 (a)."

"The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commenter and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner."

The Second Amendment right to keep and bear Arms, therefore, is a right of the individual citizen to privately possess and carry in a peaceful manner firearms and similar arms. Such an individual rights interpretation is in full accord with the history of the right to keep and bear arms previously discussed...It accurately reflects the majority of proposals that lead up to the Bill of Rights itself.

NOW, THEREFORE, all existing or future so-called "gun and/or ammunition laws", of whatever name or form under "color of law", whether Federal, Federal Agency, Pseudo Federal Agency, State, County or Municipal that infringes, abridges or restricts in any manner, the God given, unalienable, indefeasible, Constitutional right of Citizens to keep and bear Arms peaceably, openly or concealed, for their defense of life, liberty, and property are prima facie violations of Article 1, Sec. 9, Part 3; Article 6, Part 2; and Amendments I, II, IV, IX, and X of the Constitution for the United States of America; Article 2; Sec. 1, Sec. 2, Sec. 4, Sec. 5, Sec. 27, and Sec. 29 of the Constitution for the State of Arkansas; and the Dick Act of 1902, and are NO LAW, ab initio, ultra vires, of no force and effect, incumbent upon no one to obey or any court to enforce.
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How the fuck are they gonna protect their CROPS ?

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I guess these clowns won't be satisfied until they start a civil war.
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Really seems like what they are pushing for doesn't it?
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But, Uncle Joe Biden told us we should buy shotguns. What reasoning are these libtards in Colorado giving for going against Uncle Joe's wishes?
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the bill states that pump shotguns can accept an extended tube that will make them high capacity. So they're making them all illegal.
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How the fuck are they gonna protect their CROPS ?

beavis
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the Mau Mau will get the crops
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for real or ederker gurrnz?


even we can have pump action shotguns.


and semi auto ones for the disabled.



had to check out the dick act of 1902, it didn't pass, so i'll bet banning all shotguns in

colorado is bullshit too.
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And all the idiots said this could never happen. Get ready america where in for a bumpy eide
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MMMMMaybe, but I'm thinking maybe.....isn't Denver Airport there? This will be the first state to try to get a total ban hence because when "they" come up from the bunkers they dont want the ppl to have any fuckin firepower.

Think about it.....

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DIA *Denver Airport* is a creepy place to visit first hand.
Has anyone seen the center tile dedicated to the NWO?



The people here will gladly go along with anything because they are so dumbed down.
Fluoride and Hypoxia is a bad combo.

Fuck Colorado!
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MMMMMaybe, but I'm thinking maybe.....isn't Denver Airport there? This will be the first state to try to get a total ban hence because when "they" come up from the bunkers they dont want the ppl to have any fuckin firepower.

Think about it.....

hayseedsideways
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New York and California are probably better candidates for a total gun ban bu these days who the fuck knows anymore.
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Warning for those in Colorado. Your State Legislators are pushing a bill through that will ban all shotguns and your Governor says he is going to sign it.

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Wrong.


Wrong.


Wrong.


Most shotguns not all.

You can still use Over and Under break actions, Side by Side, or single shot shotguns.

Almost ALL Pump and Semi's will be banned.....not all shotguns period.


Please fix your title op or at least read the story you posted.

And what will happen is what happened to AR 15's in California. There will be a Colorado Shotgun option where they cannot be modified and have extended tubes.

The gun industry will work around this. It's not difficult.

It's still bullshit though since most shotguns go unmodified and it's really gonna fuck up the 3 gun crowd.

By law you cannot hunt with more than 3 rounds anyhow....

It's stupid...it really is.

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I'm in Colorado and people are not happy about this at all. Really stupid to ban a hunting shotgun in a state where hunting is a way of life to a lot of families.

Here is our local news report on it. [link to denver.cbslocal.com]
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I'm in Colorado and people are not happy about this at all. Really stupid to ban a hunting shotgun in a state where hunting is a way of life to a lot of families.

Here is our local news report on it. [link to denver.cbslocal.com]
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Throw the bastards out! How fucking hard is it to go up there grab them by the shirt collar and throw their asses out on the damn streets and tell them to their fucking faces in front of God and everyone they are hereby fired! The reason why this is happening is because ya'll put up with it and you're scared to really do what's right once and for all.
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DIA *Denver Airport* is a creepy place to visit first hand.
Has anyone seen the center tile dedicated to the NWO?



The people here will gladly go along with anything because they are so dumbed down.
Fluoride and Hypoxia is a bad combo.

Fuck Colorado!
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And fuck you, too! Have a nice day, from the heart of Colorado. hf
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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Lol...
So this is why they gave them Legal weed...
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I'm in Colorado and people are not happy about this at all. Really stupid to ban a hunting shotgun in a state where hunting is a way of life to a lot of families.

Here is our local news report on it. [link to denver.cbslocal.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17338098


Throw the bastards out! How fucking hard is it to go up there grab them by the shirt collar and throw their asses out on the damn streets and tell them to their fucking faces in front of God and everyone they are hereby fired! The reason why this is happening is because ya'll put up with it and you're scared to really do what's right once and for all.
 Quoting: hawk8414


People have to vote to change things...and they don't.

The only ones that vote are liberals. Funny they get off their asses to vote for their entitlements but republicans won't vote for their rights.

So they lose them and suck it up and the same people will be in charge after the next election. I can promise you that.

They will piss and moan but come voting day they will have excuses why they couldn't make it an more liberals will be voted in and that state will continue it's downward spiral. They are infested with California transplants. Colorado is fucked.

So glad I left that state.

I was born and raised there....And they have gone full retard and it's going to get way worse.

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I'm in Colorado and people are not happy about this at all. Really stupid to ban a hunting shotgun in a state where hunting is a way of life to a lot of families.

Here is our local news report on it. [link to denver.cbslocal.com]
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Yep. There are a LOT of pissed people here and this will not happen without a knock down, drag out fight.
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MMMMMaybe, but I'm thinking maybe.....isn't Denver Airport there? This will be the first state to try to get a total ban hence because when "they" come up from the bunkers they dont want the ppl to have any fuckin firepower.

Think about it.....

hayseedsideways
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New York and California are probably better candidates for a total gun ban bu these days who the fuck knows anymore.
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Anyone with any money in California moved to Colorado.
That is exactly your problem.
CO is full of CA libtards.
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It is time for CO to enact an Emergency Government Disarmament.

If the state legislature pass any laws which restrict the 2nd Amendment, then the state legislature and governor's protection details will be immediately disarmed.

See how they like that.
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I'm in Colorado and people are not happy about this at all. Really stupid to ban a hunting shotgun in a state where hunting is a way of life to a lot of families.

Here is our local news report on it. [link to denver.cbslocal.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17338098


Throw the bastards out! How fucking hard is it to go up there grab them by the shirt collar and throw their asses out on the damn streets and tell them to their fucking faces in front of God and everyone they are hereby fired! The reason why this is happening is because ya'll put up with it and you're scared to really do what's right once and for all.
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Coming from The Peoples Republic of New York I couldnt agree more..
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I'm in Colorado and people are not happy about this at all. Really stupid to ban a hunting shotgun in a state where hunting is a way of life to a lot of families.

Here is our local news report on it. [link to denver.cbslocal.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17338098


Throw the bastards out! How fucking hard is it to go up there grab them by the shirt collar and throw their asses out on the damn streets and tell them to their fucking faces in front of God and everyone they are hereby fired! The reason why this is happening is because ya'll put up with it and you're scared to really do what's right once and for all.
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People have to vote to change things...and they don't.

The only ones that vote are liberals. Funny they get off their asses to vote for their entitlements but republicans won't vote for their rights.

So they lose them and suck it up and the same people will be in charge after the next election. I can promise you that.

They will piss and moan but come voting day they will have excuses why they couldn't make it an more liberals will be voted in and that state will continue it's downward spiral. They are infested with California transplants. Colorado is fucked.

So glad I left that state.

I was born and raised there....And they have gone full retard and it's going to get way worse.
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Colorado is fucking doomed! I'm glad you left there,too. LOL! But I would still throw them out on their asses just to prove a point, ya know?
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I'm in Colorado and people are not happy about this at all. Really stupid to ban a hunting shotgun in a state where hunting is a way of life to a lot of families.

Here is our local news report on it. [link to denver.cbslocal.com]
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Throw the bastards out! How fucking hard is it to go up there grab them by the shirt collar and throw their asses out on the damn streets and tell them to their fucking faces in front of God and everyone they are hereby fired! The reason why this is happening is because ya'll put up with it and you're scared to really do what's right once and for all.
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Well, aren't you just Mr. Big Talk? This is happening all over and if it's not in your area it will be shortly. I'll watch for you on the national news accosting politicians and we'll see how well that works out for you.

I'm doing my part to stop this, believe me, but being stupid isn't going to accomplish anything.
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It's a clear violation of the Second Amendment, the SCOTUS decision in Heller vs. D.C., the "common use" clause, etc.

But, these assholes don't care about rule of law or individual liberty.

They only want to rule.
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DIA *Denver Airport* is a creepy place to visit first hand.
Has anyone seen the center tile dedicated to the NWO?



The people here will gladly go along with anything because they are so dumbed down.
Fluoride and Hypoxia is a bad combo.

Fuck Colorado!
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Have you ever thought that We, the people of Colorado, see what is happening in our own back yard therefor we are more awake because of it?


Dumbed down? That couldn't be farther from the truth!
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Shotguns?

I believe even in England, where everything is illegal, you can own a shotgun.

Friends from England, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I'm in Colorado and people are not happy about this at all. Really stupid to ban a hunting shotgun in a state where hunting is a way of life to a lot of families.

Here is our local news report on it. [link to denver.cbslocal.com]
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Throw the bastards out! How fucking hard is it to go up there grab them by the shirt collar and throw their asses out on the damn streets and tell them to their fucking faces in front of God and everyone they are hereby fired! The reason why this is happening is because ya'll put up with it and you're scared to really do what's right once and for all.
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clappa
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It is time for CO to enact an Emergency Government Disarmament.

If the state legislature pass any laws which restrict the 2nd Amendment, then the state legislature and governor's protection details will be immediately disarmed.

See how they like that.
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I like it. Sap-suckers should be affected by their own legislation.