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Colorado to All Ban Shotguns. Existing guns will be ILLEGAL to Sell, Transfer, or Lend. Illegal to lend to Your Own Kids While Hunting

 
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I'm in Colorado and people are not happy about this at all. Really stupid to ban a hunting shotgun in a state where hunting is a way of life to a lot of families.

Here is our local news report on it. [link to denver.cbslocal.com]
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Throw the bastards out! How fucking hard is it to go up there grab them by the shirt collar and throw their asses out on the damn streets and tell them to their fucking faces in front of God and everyone they are hereby fired! The reason why this is happening is because ya'll put up with it and you're scared to really do what's right once and for all.
 Quoting: hawk8414


People have to vote to change things...and they don't.

The only ones that vote are liberals. Funny they get off their asses to vote for their entitlements but republicans won't vote for their rights.

So they lose them and suck it up and the same people will be in charge after the next election. I can promise you that.

They will piss and moan but come voting day they will have excuses why they couldn't make it an more liberals will be voted in and that state will continue it's downward spiral. They are infested with California transplants. Colorado is fucked.

So glad I left that state.

I was born and raised there....And they have gone full retard and it's going to get way worse.
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Yeah!! Voting... THAT'S the ticket!
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I'm in Colorado and people are not happy about this at all. Really stupid to ban a hunting shotgun in a state where hunting is a way of life to a lot of families.

Here is our local news report on it. [link to denver.cbslocal.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17338098


Yep. There are a LOT of pissed people here and this will not happen without a knock down, drag out fight.
 Quoting: thinkingoutsidetherhombus


It'll happen, with some grumbling and complaining.

No knock down, drag out fight though.
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You're lying.

..."more than 10 rounds of ammunition or more
than 5 shotgun shells (large-capacity magazine)"
 Quoting: Rorschach


Why don't you read the actual Bill:

"LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINE" DOES NOT MEAN:

A .22 CALIBER TUBE AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE;

OR

A TUBULAR MAGAZINE THAT IS CONTAINED IN A 4 LEVER-ACTION FIREARM.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


I read the actual bill.
That's how I know that you're lying.

You cited the only two exceptions in the entire bill. Neither of them cover shotguns.

All pump-action shotguns fit the definition of "high capacity magazines". Almost all semi-auto shotguns do as well.
 Quoting: Rorschach


I completely disagree. I'm very well versed in legal research and comprehension of legal wording. Most pump action shot guns are 5 round (5+1 if one is chambered, but still considered five round). They are specifically saying that a ban would include any firearm capable of accepting more than 5 shotgun shells. Having said that, the whole bill stinks to high heaven...

(2) (a) "LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINE" MEANS A FIXED OR
11 DETACHABLE MAGAZINE, BOX, DRUM, FEED STRIP, OR SIMILAR DEVICE
12 CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING, OR THAT CAN BE READILY CONVERTED TO
13 ACCEPT, MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION OR MORE THAN FIVE
14 SHOTGUN SHELLS.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35179992


I'm a firearms expert witness.

Every pump action shotgun on Earth is "readily converted" to accept more than 5 shotgun shells.

I can teach you to think like a libtard ruler if you'd like.
Shotguns will be outlawed at the stroke of a pen.

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I'm in Colorado and people are not happy about this at all. Really stupid to ban a hunting shotgun in a state where hunting is a way of life to a lot of families.

Here is our local news report on it. [link to denver.cbslocal.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17338098


Throw the bastards out! How fucking hard is it to go up there grab them by the shirt collar and throw their asses out on the damn streets and tell them to their fucking faces in front of God and everyone they are hereby fired! The reason why this is happening is because ya'll put up with it and you're scared to really do what's right once and for all.
 Quoting: hawk8414


People have to vote to change things...and they don't.

The only ones that vote are liberals. Funny they get off their asses to vote for their entitlements but republicans won't vote for their rights.

So they lose them and suck it up and the same people will be in charge after the next election. I can promise you that.

They will piss and moan but come voting day they will have excuses why they couldn't make it an more liberals will be voted in and that state will continue it's downward spiral. They are infested with California transplants. Colorado is fucked.

So glad I left that state.

I was born and raised there....And they have gone full retard and it's going to get way worse.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes





Yeah!! Voting... THAT'S the ticket!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35515212


Yeah, just vote for the right guy. That'll fix things.

laugh
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Yeah, just vote for the right guy. That'll fix things.

laugh
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Well, it might have. Once upon a time.

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People of Colorado need to rise up and resist this tyranny!!
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Gave my baby a twenty dollar bill,
If that don't get her,
Sure my shot, shot, shot-gun will,
Yeah, I gave my baby a twenty dollar bill,
If that don't get that woman,
I'm sure my shot-gun will.
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Why don't you read the actual Bill:

"LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINE" DOES NOT MEAN:

A .22 CALIBER TUBE AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE;

OR

A TUBULAR MAGAZINE THAT IS CONTAINED IN A 4 LEVER-ACTION FIREARM.
 Quoting: Instant Karma


I read the actual bill.
That's how I know that you're lying.

You cited the only two exceptions in the entire bill. Neither of them cover shotguns.

All pump-action shotguns fit the definition of "high capacity magazines". Almost all semi-auto shotguns do as well.
 Quoting: Rorschach


I completely disagree. I'm very well versed in legal research and comprehension of legal wording. Most pump action shot guns are 5 round (5+1 if one is chambered, but still considered five round). They are specifically saying that a ban would include any firearm capable of accepting more than 5 shotgun shells. Having said that, the whole bill stinks to high heaven...

(2) (a) "LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINE" MEANS A FIXED OR
11 DETACHABLE MAGAZINE, BOX, DRUM, FEED STRIP, OR SIMILAR DEVICE
12 CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING, OR THAT CAN BE READILY CONVERTED TO
13 ACCEPT, MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION OR MORE THAN FIVE
14 SHOTGUN SHELLS.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35179992


I'm a firearms expert witness.

Every pump action shotgun on Earth is "readily converted" to accept more than 5 shotgun shells.

I can teach you to think like a libtard ruler if you'd like.
Shotguns will be outlawed at the stroke of a pen.
 Quoting: Rorschach


Guess I have to agree with you upon re-reading this section. Too vague and open to interpretation, but the language is sufficient to be interpreted as you indicate even if that may not be the intent. Somtimes legislation language is sorely lacking in clarity. That's why loopholes abound and legislators if they have enough sense about ambiguous language or other potential misinterpretations can hash things out before there's any vote.
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And the Colorado sheep will bleat and do nothing as usual.
I swear I have never seen such people so slow and daft as those in colorful Colorado *colorful as in various shades of beige since most of the trees are dead*.
Why do people always try to prop up this withered state of lefties I'll never know.

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If you weren't such a pussy, I'd leave you negative feedback. But you are and I can't.
 Quoting: thinkingoutsidetherhombus


Truth hurts I know. Otherwise the nerve would not have been stuck with you.
It is OK, you CO folk cannot help it being you folks are so isolated and innocent in your lofty pinko ideology.
*pats your cute little head*
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This is probably a "one for one" with their pot laws.
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DIA *Denver Airport* is a creepy place to visit first hand.
Has anyone seen the center tile dedicated to the NWO?



The people here will gladly go along with anything because they are so dumbed down.
Fluoride and Hypoxia is a bad combo.

Fuck Colorado!
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And fuck you, too! Have a nice day, from the heart of Colorado. hf
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There ya go... Fluoride in action.
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Yup. That is the attitude Colorado folk give you if they find out you are not a Native as they call it.
If you are driving through the state with different plates, fully expect your car to get keyed, tailgated, or even spit upon let alone threatened.
I love it how they absolutely hate Texans even though Texans bring millions of revenue into the state every spring and summer.
The people themselves do suffer from Hypoxia *lack of oxygen*, look it up. The state is in the top ten for suicide/depression along with every other rocky mountain state.
Some good people here but for the most part it is insular and backward as are the people. But then again they really cannot help it, they don't know any better.
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RAW WAR
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so you can still own a shotgun.....


fuck you op
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No, fuck you, you ignorant of the facts asswipe. This law would immediately make illegal to posess one of the most iconic, widely owned and used American-made shotguns in existence. The Model 12 Winchester pump shotgun, a gun that was being manufactured since the 1930s(20s)has a magazine capacity of 6 rounds. These have been collected, preserved, used for hunting, trap shooting, skeet shooting, home defense, and passed down from generation to generation for almost 80 years. You need to shut the fuck up, become educated on which you choose to speak, and quit sucking so much liberal dick. People like you are the problem, not the solution.
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DIA *Denver Airport* is a creepy place to visit first hand.
Has anyone seen the center tile dedicated to the NWO?



The people here will gladly go along with anything because they are so dumbed down.
Fluoride and Hypoxia is a bad combo.

Fuck Colorado!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35492575


And fuck you, too! Have a nice day, from the heart of Colorado. hf
 Quoting: thinkingoutsidetherhombus


There ya go... Fluoride in action.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35515212


Yup. That is the attitude Colorado folk give you if they find out you are not a Native as they call it.
If you are driving through the state with different plates, fully expect your car to get keyed, tailgated, or even spit upon let alone threatened.
I love it how they absolutely hate Texans even though Texans bring millions of revenue into the state every spring and summer.
The people themselves do suffer from Hypoxia *lack of oxygen*, look it up. The state is in the top ten for suicide/depression along with every other rocky mountain state.
Some good people here but for the most part it is insular and backward as are the people. But then again they really cannot help it, they don't know any better.

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you're thinking of all the self absorbed liberal front rangers with NIMBY attitudes. People out here on the western slope, especially ski towns know that if it weren't for texas, we'd have no revenue in our ski towns. Person
ally, I love texas and the tourism that it brings. Most of the texans i've talked to coming into my town are some of the nicest people you'll meet.
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There are a total of 7 bills. Town hall meetings are packed & people are letting their voices be heard. Tomorrow is the day for all to converge on the capital. Be there! Either inside or drive around hoking. It is a call for patriots to let the politicians know we are here and we will not surrender our rights.
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Warning for those in Colorado. Your State Legislators are pushing a bill through that will ban all shotguns and your Governor says he is going to sign it.

[link to offgridsurvival.com]
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anyone pushing for gun restriction looses citizenship.


they can bitch about it while they file for new citizenship.
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Good honest decent people are fighting to save our 2nd Amendment rights. We have been writing, calling, spreading the word, educating the sheep and trying to get our local media to do fair reporting. Meetings and rallies. This state is divided. Colorado is looking at losing revenue, both hunting and manufacturing.
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Throw the bastards out! How fucking hard is it to go up there grab them by the shirt collar and throw their asses out on the damn streets and tell them to their fucking faces in front of God and everyone they are hereby fired! The reason why this is happening is because ya'll put up with it and you're scared to really do what's right once and for all.
 Quoting: hawk8414


People have to vote to change things...and they don't.

The only ones that vote are liberals. Funny they get off their asses to vote for their entitlements but republicans won't vote for their rights.

So they lose them and suck it up and the same people will be in charge after the next election. I can promise you that.

They will piss and moan but come voting day they will have excuses why they couldn't make it an more liberals will be voted in and that state will continue it's downward spiral. They are infested with California transplants. Colorado is fucked.

So glad I left that state.

I was born and raised there....And they have gone full retard and it's going to get way worse.
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Yeah!! Voting... THAT'S the ticket!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35515212


Yeah, just vote for the right guy. That'll fix things.

laugh
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Works for the liberals right?


Maybe the conservatives have become some detached because the GOP keeps pushing progressive liberal republicans they stopped voting.

We need a republican with balls.
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Throw the bastards out! How fucking hard is it to go up there grab them by the shirt collar and throw their asses out on the damn streets and tell them to their fucking faces in front of God and everyone they are hereby fired! The reason why this is happening is because ya'll put up with it and you're scared to really do what's right once and for all.
 Quoting: hawk8414


People have to vote to change things...and they don't.

The only ones that vote are liberals. Funny they get off their asses to vote for their entitlements but republicans won't vote for their rights.

So they lose them and suck it up and the same people will be in charge after the next election. I can promise you that.

They will piss and moan but come voting day they will have excuses why they couldn't make it an more liberals will be voted in and that state will continue it's downward spiral. They are infested with California transplants. Colorado is fucked.

So glad I left that state.

I was born and raised there....And they have gone full retard and it's going to get way worse.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes





Yeah!! Voting... THAT'S the ticket!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35515212


Yeah, just vote for the right guy. That'll fix things.

laugh
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Works for the liberals right?


Maybe the conservatives have become some detached because the GOP keeps pushing progressive liberal republicans they stopped voting.

We need a republican with balls.
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People have to vote to change things...and they don't.

The only ones that vote are liberals. Funny they get off their asses to vote for their entitlements but republicans won't vote for their rights.

So they lose them and suck it up and the same people will be in charge after the next election. I can promise you that.

They will piss and moan but come voting day they will have excuses why they couldn't make it an more liberals will be voted in and that state will continue it's downward spiral. They are infested with California transplants. Colorado is fucked.

So glad I left that state.

I was born and raised there....And they have gone full retard and it's going to get way worse.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes





Yeah!! Voting... THAT'S the ticket!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35515212


Yeah, just vote for the right guy. That'll fix things.

laugh
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Works for the liberals right?


Maybe the conservatives have become some detached because the GOP keeps pushing progressive liberal republicans they stopped voting.

We need a republican with balls.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


We had one. Instead people voted for romobama.
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Guess I have to agree with you upon re-reading this section. Too vague and open to interpretation, but the language is sufficient to be interpreted as you indicate even if that may not be the intent. Somtimes legislation language is sorely lacking in clarity. That's why loopholes abound and legislators if they have enough sense about ambiguous language or other potential misinterpretations can hash things out before there's any vote.
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cheers

Laws are ambiguous for 2 reasons:
1) Ambiguity means more power for the enforcers.
2) The people who write bills are usually completely ignorant of the subject matter they cover.
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