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achieving freedom from slavery

 
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03/02/2013 06:16 PM
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so, i would define slavery as being the state whereby you are compelled against your will to do something. given that this describes most people's typical work day, and i don't think any of us would seek money unless we were compelled to do so, we're all slaves. you could argue that we're freer than we were a thousand years ago, in terms of warmth/shelter and so on, but then i could argue that we've had free energy since tesla's time, which i imagine would make money moot quite quickly. as long as you spend a moment of your life doing something you don't want to do, you're a slave. i don't mean such examples as "i don't want to do the washing up", ha, because eventually the stink will drive me to want to do the washing up. nor do i mean to say that i feel entitled, as many would put it; i would be happy to work in exchange for money, if that money weren't stolen from me via tax. i'd even voluntarily pay some tax, if i could see what it was going to, and it was something i thought worthwhile.

so, you and i are slaves. money is the obvious enabling factor in the slavery, but is not intrinsically bad (fiat money is intrinsically bad, but it's not the only type of money). we are slaves judged by the face that we have to earn money, and then give some of it away because we're threatened via police, courts and jails if we do not. i can deal with earning money, what i can't deal with and still feel free is having to give some of it to an institution that i judge as generally criminal, quite possibly psycopathic in its upper echelons. so while money is a key enabling factor in our slavery, it's not to blame; it's the group of people who threaten us with violence if we don't give them some of our money that are the perpetrators of our slavery.

so what to do. stop contracting with the government, obviously. stop paying tax. that means of course if you own a home, you will lose it, that if you have any money in a bank, you will lose it. i don't own a home. equally if you rent, taxes are still due (i think of council tax here in england), so you can't rent while not contracting with government. can't own, can't rent. i have a couple of friends who have chosen to become homeless, and i rather admire them in some ways, but personally i like the comforts of modern life, even if that's no more than a roof, heating and running water. so what am i left with? squatting, is the only solution i can see, and working in the black economy.

i see that there are more empty houses in the US than homeless americans. that some are starting to move back into houses they were foreclosed out of, as squatters. i wonder about doing something like this, and i'm curious to hear what the conspiritards out there think.
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so, i would define slavery as being the state whereby you are compelled against your will to do something. given that this describes most people's typical work day, and i don't think any of us would seek money unless we were compelled to do so, we're all slaves. you could argue that we're freer than we were a thousand years ago, in terms of warmth/shelter and so on, but then i could argue that we've had free energy since tesla's time, which i imagine would make money moot quite quickly. as long as you spend a moment of your life doing something you don't want to do, you're a slave. i don't mean such examples as "i don't want to do the washing up", ha, because eventually the stink will drive me to want to do the washing up. nor do i mean to say that i feel entitled, as many would put it; i would be happy to work in exchange for money, if that money weren't stolen from me via tax. i'd even voluntarily pay some tax, if i could see what it was going to, and it was something i thought worthwhile.

so, you and i are slaves. money is the obvious enabling factor in the slavery, but is not intrinsically bad (fiat money is intrinsically bad, but it's not the only type of money). we are slaves judged by the face that we have to earn money, and then give some of it away because we're threatened via police, courts and jails if we do not. i can deal with earning money, what i can't deal with and still feel free is having to give some of it to an institution that i judge as generally criminal, quite possibly psycopathic in its upper echelons. so while money is a key enabling factor in our slavery, it's not to blame; it's the group of people who threaten us with violence if we don't give them some of our money that are the perpetrators of our slavery.

so what to do. stop contracting with the government, obviously. stop paying tax. that means of course if you own a home, you will lose it, that if you have any money in a bank, you will lose it. i don't own a home. equally if you rent, taxes are still due (i think of council tax here in england), so you can't rent while not contracting with government. can't own, can't rent. i have a couple of friends who have chosen to become homeless, and i rather admire them in some ways, but personally i like the comforts of modern life, even if that's no more than a roof, heating and running water. so what am i left with? squatting, is the only solution i can see, and working in the black economy.

i see that there are more empty houses in the US than homeless americans. that some are starting to move back into houses they were foreclosed out of, as squatters. i wonder about doing something like this, and i'm curious to hear what the conspiritards out there think.
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03/02/2013 06:48 PM
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We hold that no man or woman has a right to take these rights from another, by conquest or trade, by Religious indoctrination or supplication, by Ideological persuasion or coercion, or any other way or manner.


i'm all for that. that's rather what i'm talking about.





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