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The root problem is Government.

 
Dom Diputs

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Inciting a revolution plays right into their hands.
What needs to happen is a general withdrawal of support.

Just stop cooperating, believe me they will notice and they will respond, most likely with violence, but the important thing to remember is they will be the ones firing the first shots giving we the people the moral high ground.

History shows in this type of conflict 1/3 are against it, 1/3 for it and 1/3 sit on the fence waiting to see who wins. By not inciting but responding you will swing the fence sitters to your side.

It won't be easy and it wont be without sacrifice but in the long run people will eventually see the central government and its enablers for the monsters that they are.
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Problem is mans inability to rise above self or the seven deadly sins.


sadly dinosaurs going extinct.
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ey I am not religious at all and I do not believe religion is needed to be a moral respectful principled man
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Very true
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He SOUNDS nice, but look at the evil people he had working for him; Cheney and Rumsfeld. Oliver North? REX? WTF?
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Inciting a revolution plays right into their hands.
What needs to happen is a general withdrawal of support.

Just stop cooperating, believe me they will notice and they will respond, most likely with violence, but the important thing to remember is they will be the ones firing the first shots giving we the people the moral high ground.

History shows in this type of conflict 1/3 are against it, 1/3 for it and 1/3 sit on the fence waiting to see who wins. By not inciting but responding you will swing the fence sitters to your side.

It won't be easy and it wont be without sacrifice but in the long run people will eventually see the central government and its enablers for the monsters that they are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


i agree with you, armed revolution is ABSOLUTELY the wrong thing to do. who would we be fighting, our own sisters and brothers? no thank you...

your idea of withdrawing support is perfect and must start with the media first and then giving up membership in either party and becoming an independent.

the third thing is letting newly elected officials that if they don't do the job we will fire them too...


one more thought, i have seen newly elected republicans who try to make a difference and try to make changes only to find themselves under fire from both democraps AND establishment republicans. the new repub stands alone without support from us...that must change.
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Inciting a revolution plays right into their hands.
What needs to happen is a general withdrawal of support.

Just stop cooperating, believe me they will notice and they will respond, most likely with violence, but the important thing to remember is they will be the ones firing the first shots giving we the people the moral high ground.

History shows in this type of conflict 1/3 are against it, 1/3 for it and 1/3 sit on the fence waiting to see who wins. By not inciting but responding you will swing the fence sitters to your side.

It won't be easy and it wont be without sacrifice but in the long run people will eventually see the central government and its enablers for the monsters that they are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


i agree with you, armed revolution is ABSOLUTELY the wrong thing to do. who would we be fighting, our own sisters and brothers? no thank you...

your idea of withdrawing support is perfect and must start with the media first and then giving up membership in either party and becoming an independent.

the third thing is letting newly elected officials that if they don't do the job we will fire them too...


one more thought, i have seen newly elected republicans who try to make a difference and try to make changes only to find themselves under fire from both democraps AND establishment republicans. the new repub stands alone without support from us...that must change.
 Quoting: davvi



Voting is one of the ways they control things, there is in fact ZERO difference between the two parties, both are guilty, the system is corrupt beyond redemption, there is no way you will be able to vote yourself out of this mess.

You have to keep in mind that politics attracts psychopaths like a light attracts a moth.

When I say withdraw support I mean withdraw ALL support that includes voting which is one of their most powerful weapons as it offers the illusion of consent to the masses.

It is almost always a choice between two evils a choice which inevitably leads to evil regardless of the outcome.
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Inciting a revolution plays right into their hands.
What needs to happen is a general withdrawal of support.

Just stop cooperating, believe me they will notice and they will respond, most likely with violence, but the important thing to remember is they will be the ones firing the first shots giving we the people the moral high ground.

History shows in this type of conflict 1/3 are against it, 1/3 for it and 1/3 sit on the fence waiting to see who wins. By not inciting but responding you will swing the fence sitters to your side.

It won't be easy and it wont be without sacrifice but in the long run people will eventually see the central government and its enablers for the monsters that they are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


i agree with you, armed revolution is ABSOLUTELY the wrong thing to do. who would we be fighting, our own sisters and brothers? no thank you...

your idea of withdrawing support is perfect and must start with the media first and then giving up membership in either party and becoming an independent.

the third thing is letting newly elected officials that if they don't do the job we will fire them too...


one more thought, i have seen newly elected republicans who try to make a difference and try to make changes only to find themselves under fire from both democraps AND establishment republicans. the new repub stands alone without support from us...that must change.
 Quoting: davvi



Voting is one of the ways they control things, there is in fact ZERO difference between the two parties, both are guilty, the system is corrupt beyond redemption, there is no way you will be able to vote yourself out of this mess.

You have to keep in mind that politics attracts psychopaths like a light attracts a moth.

When I say withdraw support I mean withdraw ALL support that includes voting which is one of their most powerful weapons as it offers the illusion of consent to the masses.

It is almost always a choice between two evils a choice which inevitably leads to evil regardless of the outcome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


i understand what you are saying, but to not vote is silent consent. do you really think that the brain-dead obama voters will sit down and analyze why obama won the last election? all they will know is that obama won because more people agree with him and his filthy party then don't.

this kind of "support" and fantasy that he "works for the majority of people" emboldens them obama-types even more and causes the opposition to shrink ever further away from opposing democrap/socialist policies.

i say vote while not supporting any particular party. i say make these b*stards earn your vote and then make them earn it every single day they are in office.

always remember, silence is consent...
A Jewish mother dreams that her son will grow up to be a doctor or, if retarded, a lawyer." --Jackie Mason

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"When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you - you know your nation is doomed." --Ayn Rand

Goodbye sweet friend, we miss you.

"White Democrats sold away tomorrow for their own power today."
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Re: The root problem is Government.
Governments people create are effects of the cause which is Truth.

The system people have created to sustain themselves is a lie fighting Truth.

That of course always loses the war against Truth attempting to defeat Truth.
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A government of the people, by the people, but no longer for the people.
Through will of thought we control our emotions and thoughts are often no more difficult to control then we make them to be.
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Exactly... So people look to GOD to guilt them into morals and principles? Myself... my principles and morals are set by myself and self worth and like you said pride. Pride in myself, wife, kids and family. Not some mythical character named JC or Horus or the Sun.
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You are correct about everything.
Except this.
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Re: The root problem is Government.
As long as you think that the root of the problem is government, the evils in this world will NEVER be resolved.

Another major problem is that the media only publishes information which is to the economic benefit of TPTB, including Judaeo-Chrsitianity-Islamism, Inc.

Another major problem is that the monotheistic religious 'authorities' have turned their respetive Revelations upside down; thus preventing anyone from knowing the Truth. ("My people perish for lack of Knowledge.")

And another problem is that the 'fallen' consciousness does not CARE about the Truth; only pleasure and entertainment, for example, the entertainment of religion masquerading as Truth.

Government is merely the manifestation of a much deeper problem.

"For every thousand who are hacking at the branches of evil, there is ONE who is striking at the root."

Government is merely the branches of evil.

The lies and errors of 'monotheistic' theology are the ROOT of evil.

And it is more like 'for every BILLION hacking at the branches of evil..."

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government is not the problem, wickedness in the heart of man is the problem.
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Folks if We the People are ever to fix things in government, we need to stop the blame game.
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"We" must log off the internet and get off the couch 1st!

without this nothing will change!
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Folks if We the People are ever to fix things in government, we need to stop the blame game.
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"We" must log off the internet and get off the couch 1st!

without this nothing will change!
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


play
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government is the problem, same in Canada, common guys revolt and maybe Canadians will follow suit.
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Government is the most disastrous invention of modern civilization.

Founded by geniuses,
Run by idiots!

The greatest gift you can give anyone is the example of your own life working. -Orin
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Inciting a revolution plays right into their hands.
What needs to happen is a general withdrawal of support.

Just stop cooperating, believe me they will notice and they will respond, most likely with violence, but the important thing to remember is they will be the ones firing the first shots giving we the people the moral high ground.

History shows in this type of conflict 1/3 are against it, 1/3 for it and 1/3 sit on the fence waiting to see who wins. By not inciting but responding you will swing the fence sitters to your side.

It won't be easy and it wont be without sacrifice but in the long run people will eventually see the central government and its enablers for the monsters that they are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


i agree with you, armed revolution is ABSOLUTELY the wrong thing to do. who would we be fighting, our own sisters and brothers? no thank you...

your idea of withdrawing support is perfect and must start with the media first and then giving up membership in either party and becoming an independent.

the third thing is letting newly elected officials that if they don't do the job we will fire them too...


one more thought, i have seen newly elected republicans who try to make a difference and try to make changes only to find themselves under fire from both democraps AND establishment republicans. the new repub stands alone without support from us...that must change.
 Quoting: davvi



Voting is one of the ways they control things, there is in fact ZERO difference between the two parties, both are guilty, the system is corrupt beyond redemption, there is no way you will be able to vote yourself out of this mess.

You have to keep in mind that politics attracts psychopaths like a light attracts a moth.

When I say withdraw support I mean withdraw ALL support that includes voting which is one of their most powerful weapons as it offers the illusion of consent to the masses.

It is almost always a choice between two evils a choice which inevitably leads to evil regardless of the outcome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


i understand what you are saying, but to not vote is silent consent. do you really think that the brain-dead obama voters will sit down and analyze why obama won the last election? all they will know is that obama won because more people agree with him and his filthy party then don't.

this kind of "support" and fantasy that he "works for the majority of people" emboldens them obama-types even more and causes the opposition to shrink ever further away from opposing democrap/socialist policies.

i say vote while not supporting any particular party. i say make these b*stards earn your vote and then make them earn it every single day they are in office.

always remember, silence is consent...
 Quoting: davvi


Silence IS NOT CONSENT not in any way shape or form.
It is in fact the opposite of consent.

When you say silence is consent you are trying to intuit my intentions, you have no way of knowing what my intentions are unless I voice them.

What you are doing is creating consent from the void which is a fraud and will never be the truth, ever.

This is the way of the politician; fraud, lies, and deceit.
This is true throughout the history of man and governments.

When you participate, in any way, in a system you are consenting to its validity which I explicitly deny.

Clearly I am not advocating silence, anyone reading my posts can see that I am not silent, if I were there would be no posts, just empty space.

By participating in a corrupt system you are in fact enabling and supporting that system and by inference you are corrupt.

When I say the system is corrupt I mean it in a fundamental way. The idea of central government is inherently flawed there is no way around this, history proves it, the deaths of millions, if not billions, of innocents scream this truth.

I know that it is difficult overcoming a lifetime of propaganda by disingenuous people, but for anything to change you must at least make the attempt to think outside of the box you have been places in.
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any body joined opptin I did share a lot of good info
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The Root of the problem is MONEY.
The Federal Reserve and all central banking globally.
Next Corporations suck on The Fed
then politicians suck on corps and The Fed.

It's that simple

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Folks if We the People are ever to fix things in government, we need to stop the blame game.
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"We" must log off the internet and get off the couch 1st!

without this nothing will change!
 Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris


play
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It's the world banks who have taken over our government.
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The root problem is ego.
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The Root of the problem is MONEY.
The Federal Reserve and all central banking globally.
Next Corporations suck on The Fed
then politicians suck on corps and The Fed.

It's that simple

Frater
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yep and all of them need to be put in handcuffs, starting with the international bankers.

IMF is basically a global racketeering trust.
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The Root of the problem is MONEY.
The Federal Reserve and all central banking globally.
Next Corporations suck on The Fed
then politicians suck on corps and The Fed.

It's that simple

Frater
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yep and all of them need to be put in handcuffs, starting with the international bankers.

IMF is basically a global racketeering trust.
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yes
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[link to smackstephenharper.com] Here is a favorite of mine
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The root problem is involuntary contracting. Government is the sympton, our collective cowardice in not going "enough!" is a probelm, too. Seems more people are accurately diagnosing the problem, a good sign.
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Actually the root problem is the Progressive movement. Many, if not most of the leaders are following this insane philosophy, and have us fighting ourselves instead of them.
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Before Reagan, there was a TRUE PROPHET of an american President.
President Number 34, on the eve of his departure from the White House gave a sober and honest account of the dangers at hand and ahead for all of us Americans .
President Reagan did not heed his warning, nor has ANY PRESIDENT SINCE.
Reagan built up the military-industrial complex,thinking that NO PRESIDENT would be stupid enough to abuse it and conduct fiat wars all across the planet.
Well, Mr. President, your faith in the American people and your future fellow presidents was misplaced.
Please watch this short YouTube
FROM JANUARY OF 1961 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, and the speaker was the former commander in chief of the Allied Forces in WWII
Not a stereotypical "weak kneed peace-puppy"!!!

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Sadly, people still think voting will work. Our votes don't count and they haven't for a long time. Take a look at what happened at the RNC and the DNC this past year. The proof is in the pudding.
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Folks if We the People are ever to fix things in government, we need to stop the blame game. I too used to blame one party for the failures in American politics. At 38, the past 13 years have proven to me that both Democrats and Republicans are in on it. You don't spending like our government does and have one side at blame. You don't have the Constitution being shredded by one side, but by both sides. Until we stop the blame game and come to the conclusion that both parties are the problem, nothing will be fixed. Honestly, it is past the point of being fixed. You don't pay back over 16.5 trillion and you don't get the rights and liberties back both parties have taken from We the People. remember when Republicans said to elect them in 2010 and they would stop spending and get rid of Barrycare? Hummm? never happened, right? NDAA The Patriot Act? Both passed by both Demos and Repubs. So what happens? I don't claim to have the answer but I do know Republicans and Democrats are the not the answer. We the People are the answer if a majority wakes up. Until then... we will continue down a unconstitutional road to demise and it's paved with our tax dollars. We are funding our own demise.
militia
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THE ROOT OF ALL "EVIL" IS

ALMOST FUCKEN EVERYONE. Big omelette en surprise.
Your arguments are invalid. Completely.
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Yeah, let's blame ourselves and shut our eyes on the crooks and their actions.... you gonna feel better. On meths, in a detention camp.

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