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The root problem is Government.

 
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People just don't get it when it comes to election time. The key to prevent corruption is to clean house, literally of all incumbents at each election.
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WE cannot do that when THEY count the votes... get it yet?
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this.
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People just don't get it when it comes to election time. The key to prevent corruption is to clean house, literally of all incumbents at each election.
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WE cannot do that when THEY count the votes... get it yet?
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this.
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You could compare the United States to an AIDS patient. The virus cannot be cured, it is systemic, and there is no turning back. The gun grab will be gradual, state to state, until everyone carrying a gun is a criminal, extremist or terrorist.

You cannot fix the voting, congress, the budget, none of it. They know that the only outcome is the final showdown with the people. Gun owners need to be quiet about what they have, and keep it to themselves. Sites like this, facebook, gmail and pretty much everything monitored by the echelon system will be used to profile us.

There is only one way out of this mess. Having strength, and believing that freedom from slavery is worth dying for. You don't want to keep coming back to this mess after they get what they want.
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Folks if We the People are ever to fix things in government, we need to stop the blame game. I too used to blame one party for the failures in American politics. At 38, the past 13 years have proven to me that both Democrats and Republicans are in on it. You don't spending like our government does and have one side at blame. You don't have the Constitution being shredded by one side, but by both sides. Until we stop the blame game and come to the conclusion that both parties are the problem, nothing will be fixed. Honestly, it is past the point of being fixed. You don't pay back over 16.5 trillion and you don't get the rights and liberties back both parties have taken from We the People. remember when Republicans said to elect them in 2010 and they would stop spending and get rid of Barrycare? Hummm? never happened, right? NDAA The Patriot Act? Both passed by both Demos and Repubs. So what happens? I don't claim to have the answer but I do know Republicans and Democrats are the not the answer. We the People are the answer if a majority wakes up. Until then... we will continue down a unconstitutional road to demise and it's paved with our tax dollars. We are funding our own demise.
militia
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Here is the deal... and this is what ALL of us need to understand.

There is a reason things have gone the way they have in the last 30 years.

I will explain this in simple, easy to understand terms.

The entire political spectrum in this country has shifted to the far left.

In 1960 JFK was considered a liberal democrat. By todays standards he would be more conservative than ANY member of government in place now.

Think about that!

Todays "conservative republicans" are yesteryear's DEMOCRATS... todays "liberal democrats" are yesteryear's COUNTER CULTURE COMMUNISTS.

Thats right.. they are COMMUNISTS, SOCIALISTS and the president is a MARXIST!

Political philosophies that were never supposed to exist here.

The made a power grab and we let them.. they organized and took over the educational system, the media, the entertainment industry and now the government.

There you have it.. if you are a "democrat".. you are worshiping treasonous, murderous communist bastards.

If you are a republican you are worshiping leftist cooperative soft socialism.

As an AMERICAN, and true lover of liberty.. notice the word democracy was NOT used, there is only one political ideology that can fit.. jeffersonian libertarianism.

It is time for those of us that are still AMERICANS to get rid of the communist influence in this country. Joe McCarthy was right.

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100% correct
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lol, do i know you? wink
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Folks if We the People are ever to fix things in government, we need to stop the blame game. I too used to blame one party for the failures in American politics. At 38, the past 13 years have proven to me that both Democrats and Republicans are in on it. You don't spending like our government does and have one side at blame. You don't have the Constitution being shredded by one side, but by both sides. Until we stop the blame game and come to the conclusion that both parties are the problem, nothing will be fixed. Honestly, it is past the point of being fixed. You don't pay back over 16.5 trillion and you don't get the rights and liberties back both parties have taken from We the People. remember when Republicans said to elect them in 2010 and they would stop spending and get rid of Barrycare? Hummm? never happened, right? NDAA The Patriot Act? Both passed by both Demos and Repubs. So what happens? I don't claim to have the answer but I do know Republicans and Democrats are the not the answer. We the People are the answer if a majority wakes up. Until then... we will continue down a unconstitutional road to demise and it's paved with our tax dollars. We are funding our own demise.
militia
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant16


NO BLAME? NO SOLUTION? DON'T BLAME THE GOV NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

NO, THE PROBLEM IS YOU!!

THE GOVERNMENT IS A REPRESENTATION OF YOU THE PROBLEM!!
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Problem is mans inability to rise above self or the seven deadly sins.


sadly dinosaurs going extinct.
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ey I am not religious at all and I do not believe religion is needed to be a moral respectful principled man
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pride
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Exactly... So people look to GOD to guilt them into morals and principles? Myself... my principles and morals are set by myself and self worth and like you said pride. Pride in myself, wife, kids and family. Not some mythical character named JC or Horus or the Sun.
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" my principles are set by myself"

Yeah ....and so are these politicians .......they set there own principles too


Thats the problem ...... The Benchmark has been set by the divine

Man is flawed ...... All of recorded human civilization proves this
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Govt. is just a tool, like guns. In the right hands
good things can happen and bad things can be prevented, in the wrong hands, bad things occur. It's clear who's hands our govt. has been in for a long time. The general population pool from which govt.. workers, politicians, etc....come from is so corrupt now, don't see how things
can sort themselves out into better governence. It would
take some sort of mass awakening......given that about half of the population is living off the govt., it would appear that the govt. is at least in part reflecting the values of the general population.
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100% correct
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Which one would Davey Crockett join up with today?
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03/03/2013 05:24 PM
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here is a root problem

Light of YHVH/God on this too, amen

Why Is JPMorgan's Gold Vault, The Largest In The World, Located Next To The New York Fed's?
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You cannot fix the voting, congress, the budget, none of it. They know that the only outcome is the final showdown with the people. Gun owners need to be quiet about what they have, and keep it to themselves. Sites like this, facebook, gmail and pretty much everything monitored by the echelon system will be used to profile us.

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Fire them and cancel any back-pay or debts they ran up.
Take what is said you owe and make it black instead of red and divide it up with anybody having a birth certificate from the US. Then trade that back and forth until the nation is better than it ever was then they can look forward and make plans that fits that situation. Global cooling would be desert areas being made green so they can produce 2 crops a year instead of being an erosion zone. Move south ot make your homes self sufficient as far as heat goes and tubing into the deep ground is the best way as only a small pump is needed to transfer the warmer temp to keep the place liveable. Little cool for men but a greenhouse would survive if some low power lighting could be found.

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You cannot fix the voting, congress, the budget, none of it. They know that the only outcome is the final showdown with the people. Gun owners need to be quiet about what they have, and keep it to themselves. Sites like this, facebook, gmail and pretty much everything monitored by the echelon system will be used to profile us.

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Fire them and cancel any back-pay or debts they ran up.
Take what is said you owe and make it black instead of red and divide it up with anybody having a birth certificate from the US. Then trade that back and forth until the nation is better than it ever was then they can look forward and make plans that fits that situation. Global cooling would be desert areas being made green so they can produce 2 crops a year instead of being an erosion zone. Move south ot make your homes self sufficient as far as heat goes and tubing into the deep ground is the best way as only a small pump is needed to transfer the warmer temp to keep the place liveable. Little cool for men but a greenhouse would survive if some low power lighting could be found.
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Good ideas bro, i have been thinking deeply about desert areas for a while.
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The root of the problem is the electorate. If you eliminate the waste of life, food stamp receiving, baby daddy having, badah bah bah baaaaah McDonald's loving, social security raiding, incompetant, over entitled, historically ignorant fuckwads that continue to vote for more and more entitlements, you'd have a more balanced government. While they do not make up the majority, when you combine them with those who vote the same way they do, you have a majority that will no longer be beaten. This has been the plan of both parties for a century now. Government works when voters put workers in government.
The constitutions of most of our States and the United States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which they think themselves competent, or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press. -Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Cartwright, June 5, 1824
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The OP is correct. The root of the problem is government by imperfect, corruptible man. Even the most nobel-minded people who eventually end up in a position of authority and power succumb to curruption or to forces that are outside of their control.

However, man was never meant to govern himself in the first place... it's just as has been written... nothing but injury:

(Jeremiah 10:23) I well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.

(Ecclesiastes 8:9) All this I have seen, and there was an applying of my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, [during] the time that man has dominated man to his injury.

Government by God is what is needed... "(Matthew 6:9) “YOU must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified."

God' government will be fair/just, incorruptible, nationalities will be done away with as all who live will be one human family, sickness removed, even death done away with.

This "experiment" that has been permitted for (what appears to be) so long... will soon come to its end. God's goverment will forcibly coup d'etat all current gubmints... once and for all:

(Daniel 2:44) “And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;

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