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Anybody else notice this? Here I went to the doc because Igot anxiety realizing I was messing with Everything I shouldnt have been, as A believer in the Living God, and His Christ, and the doctor gives me medication that made it worse. The Benzos over the past year and few months have perpetuated and exsterbated the initial symptoms I went in for because of messing with meditation. And come to find out coming of of them is damn near one of the hardest things to come off of because your not in any way out of the clear when the drug goes out of your system, no! Your body has chemical changes that have taken place that only time can heal with a lot of hell that goes with it. Many of the withdrawl symtpoms from coming off of benzos typify what some would consider to be demonic interfereance and oppression. THis stuff opens up your spirit I believe and rapes your individuatily/ego/sense of self, Just like the meditation. So anyways. I guess that fits right in with the secret covenant, stealing out minds and serving us poinson. They have cast fire into thy sancturary! Anybody else come to similar conclusion?
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Anybody else notice this? Here I went to the doc because Igot anxiety realizing I was messing with Everything I shouldnt have been, as A believer in the Living God, and His Christ, and the doctor gives me medication that made it worse. The Benzos over the past year and few months have perpetuated and exsterbated the initial symptoms I went in for because of messing with meditation. And come to find out coming of of them is damn near one of the hardest things to come off of because your not in any way out of the clear when the drug goes out of your system, no! Your body has chemical changes that have taken place that only time can heal with a lot of hell that goes with it. Many of the withdrawl symtpoms from coming off of benzos typify what some would consider to be demonic interfereance and oppression. THis stuff opens up your spirit I believe and rapes your individuatily/ego/sense of self, Just like the meditation. So anyways. I guess that fits right in with the secret covenant, stealing out minds and serving us poinson. They have cast fire into thy sancturary! Anybody else come to similar conclusion?
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Do not take Valium.
Ever. Never. Its the worse!

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Yes.

I am just finishing a clonazepam withdrawal. peace
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The reason is because benzos indirectly inhibit glutamatergic (primary excitatory ) neurotransmission.
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The dr here gave me a temporary one-month supply and no more than that for GAD.
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How convenient to blame this darn meditation for your addiction problems now.

P.S. I passed this phase long, long ago as a teen - the one with kicking the benzos off.
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Yes.

I am just finishing a clonazepam withdrawal. peace
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And are the symptoms gone?
I am just finishing a clonazepam withdrawal. peace
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Aw everything I wrote erased.

Do not take Valium.
Ever. Never. Its the worse!
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Did you get off of it? They are saying in a Doctors Manuel from the Uk - The ashton manuel, that i longer acting benzo typically is needed to get off of a one with a short half life. Like colonzapam has 12-24 half life. They say valium helps in getting off other benzos because you can manage a taper easily being that there are not inter dose withdrawl symotoms because it has a half life of 100-200 hours or something like that. I want to get off Klonapin/colonzapam but they withdrawl symptoms are maddenin and so numerous in number an outsider would think those dealing with this are most likely just attention seeking but the fact is this drug should never even be given to people without very close supervision. They say 2-4 weeks is the longest they should be used and even then a taper is needed to come off of them so why would My doc perscribe this to me or anybody for more than the reccomended period? It's mind boggeling they would be so careless. They perscribed it to me for over 16 months and THEN I GET A message saying I cannot get any refills untill i see my doc. What a crock of crap. Seriously.
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I was given xanax by a Dr to treat anxiety and was on this poison for eight years with no options for an alternative. Last year I found that the stat dose I had been taking for the eight years was no longer effective in treating my anxiety so I decided to quit over a period of just three weeks. Without a word of a lie I can tell you it near killed me. I lost 20 kgs, couldnt work, nearly lost my wife and my sanity. Eventually checked into a psych ward as I was on the verge of suicide and to my complete horror I was given valium on admission. Took me the better part of a year to regain any sense of normality and I did it with shear determination, the love of my wife and baby daughter and the occasional spliff. To say I was in hell would be a gross understatment. Stay well away people!
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Great site for folks wanting to withdraw from benzos-

[link to www.benzo.org.uk]

If you have anxiety, you may wish to be tested for this often undiagnosed and treatable potential cause.

This used to be considered "rare" until they developed an accurate low cost blood test for it, now its becoming more common...

[link to www.mayoclinic.com]

Signs and symptoms of pheochromocytomas may include:
High blood pressure
Rapid heart rate
Forceful heartbeat
Profound sweating
Abdominal pain
Sudden-onset headaches — usually severe — of varying duration
Anxiety
Feeling of extreme fright
Pale skin
Weight loss

These signs and symptoms develop because this type of tumor produces an excess of chemical compounds called catecholamines. Excessive secretion of catecholamines — the hormones adrenaline (epinephrine) and noradrenaline (norepinephrine) — can lead to persistent high blood pressure or wild fluctuations in your blood pressure, depending on whether the catecholamines are released continuously or in shorter bursts. The intermittent release of these hormones can cause other symptoms to occur from time to time as well.
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We can point the finger at whomever we think is to blame but really you were the one that placed yourself in the situation. Sure the docs gave you the prescription but you were the one that listened and believed that the pills would help.

Ive been in your situation, no doctor prescription though but i dabbed myself in so many pills... so many.. I would not take anything back though for they made me who i am now which is so much higher than before i started drugs and meditation.

Meditation is amazing if done right. Done wrong can be extremely dangerous as you already can see.

Be the one who is in charge of yourself/thoughts/beliefs, then the right way will show itself.
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To the OP. isn't it more likely that during meditation you are just connecting to the anxiety that was already there? Sounds like it to me....and rather than face it, or take ownership of it you are pushing it away so you won't ever have to deal with it. I will tell you this, that unconscious fear will control you behind the scenes without you knowing unless you bring it out into the light.
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And yes, many drugs open one up emotionally and spiritually, and this is a good thing. For god is spirit. It's all about your intention going in and your belief. god will be there, your fear has been put there by satans church, not gods.
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And yes, many drugs open one up emotionally and spiritually, and this is a good thing. For god is spirit. It's all about your intention going in and your belief. god will be there, your fear has been put there by satans church, not gods.
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This is what would be known as sorcery....Conseuquences ensue eventually, if you know what I mean.
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I've been on 1mg x4 a day clonazepam for 8 years. i know one day soon my dr will just kick me to the curb with a quick taper. i know it will happen the way they are demonizing benzos(no more money in it. None are under patent) so i've been slowly tapering myself which is hell but I've been able to save about 400 tabs for when I finally get dr doom. This way i can taper correctly and hopefully ease the hell of the with drawl.

It seems no matter how long you've been on these benzos most drs think a 2 week taper is all that is needed. I'm hoping since i've been on it for 8 years that he will be open to a 3-4 month taper since what is the friggin hurry. I see the writing on the wall though. Seroquel works for social phobia and this is the drug you should be on* lot of money in this drug..Too bad it's a friggin anti psychotic).

The use of benzos are soon going to be a thing of the past that is why there aren't any new ones coming out. No new benzos not profit...No incentive to prescribe plus their bad rep.

They have help me immensely and i've been on the same dose for 8 years never needing to up the dose nor has it lost much of it's effectiveness..

Everyone is diff and i know the protracted withdrawls are real and should be handled slowly and appropriately like switching to a comparable dose of the logest acting benzo out there...valium being a good one. the problem is most drs don't see the as necessary.
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I've been on 1mg x4 a day clonazepam for 8 years. i know one day soon my dr will just kick me to the curb with a quick taper. i know it will happen the way they are demonizing benzos(no more money in it. None are under patent) so i've been slowly tapering myself which is hell but I've been able to save about 400 tabs for when I finally get dr doom. This way i can taper correctly and hopefully ease the hell of the with drawl.

It seems no matter how long you've been on these benzos most drs think a 2 week taper is all that is needed. I'm hoping since i've been on it for 8 years that he will be open to a 3-4 month taper since what is the friggin hurry. I see the writing on the wall though. Seroquel works for social phobia and this is the drug you should be on* lot of money in this drug..Too bad it's a friggin anti psychotic).

The use of benzos are soon going to be a thing of the past that is why there aren't any new ones coming out. No new benzos not profit...No incentive to prescribe plus their bad rep.

They have help me immensely and i've been on the same dose for 8 years never needing to up the dose nor has it lost much of it's effectiveness..

Everyone is diff and i know the protracted withdrawls are real and should be handled slowly and appropriately like switching to a comparable dose of the logest acting benzo out there...valium being a good one. the problem is most drs don't see the as necessary.
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I've been on 1mg x4 a day clonazepam for 8 years. i know one day soon my dr will just kick me to the curb with a quick taper. i know it will happen the way they are demonizing benzos(no more money in it. None are under patent) so i've been slowly tapering myself which is hell but I've been able to save about 400 tabs for when I finally get dr doom. This way i can taper correctly and hopefully ease the hell of the with drawl.

It seems no matter how long you've been on these benzos most drs think a 2 week taper is all that is needed. I'm hoping since i've been on it for 8 years that he will be open to a 3-4 month taper since what is the friggin hurry. I see the writing on the wall though. Seroquel works for social phobia and this is the drug you should be on* lot of money in this drug..Too bad it's a friggin anti psychotic).

The use of benzos are soon going to be a thing of the past that is why there aren't any new ones coming out. No new benzos not profit...No incentive to prescribe plus their bad rep.

They have help me immensely and i've been on the same dose for 8 years never needing to up the dose nor has it lost much of it's effectiveness..

Everyone is diff and i know the protracted withdrawls are real and should be handled slowly and appropriately like switching to a comparable dose of the logest acting benzo out there...valium being a good one. the problem is most drs don't see the as necessary.
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wow..sry..I clicked once..idk what the hell happened
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wow..sry..I clicked once..idk what the hell happened
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Yes.
And are the symptoms gone?
I am just finishing a clonazepam withdrawal. peace
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How did you get off?
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Cold turkey! wink
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Yes.
And are the symptoms gone?
I am just finishing a clonazepam withdrawal. peace
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How did you get off?
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Cold turkey! wink
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Holy Crap... WOW!
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Anybody else notice this? Here I went to the doc because Igot anxiety realizing I was messing with Everything I shouldnt have been, as A believer in the Living God, and His Christ, and the doctor gives me medication that made it worse. The Benzos over the past year and few months have perpetuated and exsterbated the initial symptoms I went in for because of messing with meditation. And come to find out coming of of them is damn near one of the hardest things to come off of because your not in any way out of the clear when the drug goes out of your system, no! Your body has chemical changes that have taken place that only time can heal with a lot of hell that goes with it. Many of the withdrawl symtpoms from coming off of benzos typify what some would consider to be demonic interfereance and oppression. THis stuff opens up your spirit I believe and rapes your individuatily/ego/sense of self, Just like the meditation. So anyways. I guess that fits right in with the secret covenant, stealing out minds and serving us poinson. They have cast fire into thy sancturary! Anybody else come to similar conclusion?
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Hi I was able to come off of if farely easily after 6 months with the supplement called piracetam i still had flu side effects but it was way easier with the supplement fyi
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Anybody else notice this? Here I went to the doc because Igot anxiety realizing I was messing with Everything I shouldnt have been, as A believer in the Living God, and His Christ, and the doctor gives me medication that made it worse. The Benzos over the past year and few months have perpetuated and exsterbated the initial symptoms I went in for because of messing with meditation. And come to find out coming of of them is damn near one of the hardest things to come off of because your not in any way out of the clear when the drug goes out of your system, no! Your body has chemical changes that have taken place that only time can heal with a lot of hell that goes with it. Many of the withdrawl symtpoms from coming off of benzos typify what some would consider to be demonic interfereance and oppression. THis stuff opens up your spirit I believe and rapes your individuatily/ego/sense of self, Just like the meditation. So anyways. I guess that fits right in with the secret covenant, stealing out minds and serving us poinson. They have cast fire into thy sancturary! Anybody else come to similar conclusion?
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Hi I was able to come off of if farely easily after 6 months with the supplement called piracetam i still had flu side effects but it was way easier with the supplement fyi
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So how much were you taking and what was the duration you were on it for, and was it Klonapin? Where did you get then info that supplement would help and why were you on in the first place? How bad was the withdrawl? So many questions.... Sorry.
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Yes.
And are the symptoms gone?
I am just finishing a clonazepam withdrawal. peace
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How did you get off?
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Cold turkey! wink
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Cold turkey huh? Why did you go on it to begin with? And how did that cold turkey work out for you? What was the worst about it? I see your into the occult side of spirituality so do you think the drugs helped at all, ass far as opening you up?
Oh and btw I posted about benzos prolly a litttle over a week ago and you posted a tom cruize at somebodies comment about me passing out and forgetting about me posting. Did you come and see what was going on in my abode? Sure seemed like it.
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And yes, many drugs open one up emotionally and spiritually, and this is a good thing. For god is spirit. It's all about your intention going in and your belief. god will be there, your fear has been put there by satans church, not gods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34293460


This is what would be known as sorcery....Conseuquences ensue eventually, if you know what I mean.
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Man you don't know anything you moron. Sorcery is when you use a drug spiritual state for evil, not for working on yourself you idiot!
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How did you get off?
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Cold turkey! wink
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Cold turkey huh? Why did you go on it to begin with? And how did that cold turkey work out for you? What was the worst about it? I see your into the occult side of spirituality so do you think the drugs helped at all, ass far as opening you up?
Oh and btw I posted about benzos prolly a litttle over a week ago and you posted a tom cruize at somebodies comment about me passing out and forgetting about me posting. Did you come and see what was going on in my abode? Sure seemed like it.
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hmm

To be honest I also used cannabis to help, but that doesn't work well for everyone.

I am sorry if I offended you the other night... I know that benzos alone are not fatal, but it was still probably rude of me. hf peace
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Xanax is awesome for everything, just gotta keep usuage to a minimum or you'll get hooked.
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And yes, many drugs open one up emotionally and spiritually, and this is a good thing. For god is spirit. It's all about your intention going in and your belief. god will be there, your fear has been put there by satans church, not gods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34293460


This is what would be known as sorcery....Conseuquences ensue eventually, if you know what I mean.
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Man you don't know anything you moron. Sorcery is when you use a drug spiritual state for evil, not for working on yourself you idiot!
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Thanks for that you lessoff
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How did you get off?
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Cold turkey! wink
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Cold turkey huh? Why did you go on it to begin with? And how did that cold turkey work out for you? What was the worst about it? I see your into the occult side of spirituality so do you think the drugs helped at all, ass far as opening you up?
Oh and btw I posted about benzos prolly a litttle over a week ago and you posted a tom cruize at somebodies comment about me passing out and forgetting about me posting. Did you come and see what was going on in my abode? Sure seemed like it.
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Be careful if your going to go cold turkey because coming off benzos can give you seizures. Make sure you have someone with you that can look after you.

I was an opiate user for nearly 10 years and meditation pretty much saved my ass. If it hadnt been for the meditation (and support) I'd never been able to prepare myself mentally to over come my addiction. It worked so well that I hardly went through any withdrawals. The mind is very powerful and once hooked on a substance it will use every trick in the book to keep you on it. It's like living with another person inside you that isn't you. Just remember you are in control of what happens to you. I've been clean for 2 years now and my life is far better than I thought it ever could be, even with everything that is transpiring around us today.

Meditation is very useful if used properly. If you have too much negative thoughts or energy then you will open yourself up to unwanted things. You have to learn to train your mind to block them out through the use of positive thought. Confront your fears don't hide from them.

Good luck OP my thoughts are with you. I know you can beat this, so don't let the fear of what will happen when coming off them stop you from actually trying.

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