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Holy Diver is pro-trolling, folks. Finish your discussion and ignore him. If it wasn't apparent to anyone before, read his posts and notice how he cleverly avoids the posts that reply to him with linked facts. Again, ignore him and continue your talks.

Pothead Lurker
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It'll be much sweeter when he eats his words. We've already won, he isn't fooling anyone.
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My 19 yo daughter was diagnosed with diabetes. Her doctor asked what medicines, etc she took and she told the doctor she smoked pot. The doctor said there has never been a valid study that proves pot causes any kind of harm to the human body. She just told my daughter not to drive if she's high but otherwise, don't worry.
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She may want to avoid wheat. Wheat is much more dangerous than pot.

[link to celiac.nih.gov]


Celiac disease and type 1 diabetes are disorders in which the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks itself, targeting the lining of the small intestine in celiac disease and the beta-cells of the pancreatic islets in type 1 diabetes. Celiac disease is far more common in people with type 1 diabetes than in the general population—as many as 10 percent of children with type 1 diabetes, compared with only one in 100 children in the general population, test positive for the antibodies that indicate celiac disease. Moreover, a growing body of research suggests type 1 diabetes is triggered by exposure to gluten, the protein linked to celiac disease, adding even more weight to the theory that the two disorders share common genetic causes
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I'm gonna say a short little sililique before I'm off to bed....it goes like this.

"in the modern age of trolls, the trolls, are moles!"
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yes, we know ^^, only problem i have had with it is , sometimes it makes my type of anxiety bad , but not usually. still smoke sometimes.
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Hey all that means is that you need to find your type, Indica or sativa then spread from there to find something that suits you. Thats the beauty of it, theres something right for everyone:D
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Haha, just keeping looking for your scientific method. I'm sure mainstream science will be right out with it. Meanwhile, ignore the case studies where people are cured with cannabis and other natural means. You're lost man, give up.
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So, you're saying I won't find proof via scientific method?

You're saying Mainstream science will not conduct research?

But, you say I ignore case studies...are these scientific case studies? But you just said I shouldn't expect any, so what kind of case studies are these? Who conducts them and with what methods?

Is this Cheech and Chong in a basement blowing weed smoke into their cancer cats?

*IM* lost? You're listening to Cheech and Chong and calling it "Case Studies."
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


If you call suffocating a monkey with smoke a case study, then yes, mainstream scientists have conducted "studies" They are well documented and any fool like yourself would be able to see that information, it is all public. Although im not sure someone like yourself would know these very public things. tell me, do you still do tea time with barbie and ken?
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Okay, I'm outnumbered. This explains a great deal about how our society is doing these days.

That said, go ahead and unleash all your cannabinoids against cancer, I can't wait for cancer to be 100% eradicated by one little plant.

Let me know how that works out.

I think it's just another excuse for junkies to get high.
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Prohibition is insane and is anti-freedom, the defining characteristics of politicians and meddling do-gooders.

It does not matter if smoking may be bad for me, it's my body to do with as I please. I would never ask you to pay for my problems to do so is a kind of theft which really is a crime.

The real criminals are the ones who believe they own me and can tell me what to do with my body, they are committing the worst crime, my right to do with MY body what I want.

Don't give me any of that crap getting high is the only reason people want it legalized. Again, it's my body and I will do with it as I please. If it can be proven that I have caused real injury to anybody else then I am liable, no matter the reason.

If you don't like it don't do it, but you have zero right to tell me what to do with MY BODY.
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You can Prove it to yourself like I did.


I put a dab of Hash oil / Cannabis Extract on some freckles that were on my arm.


They were gone in 48 hours.




It was like my body killed the freckle, purged and pushed it out in two days, then scabbed over.


Now only normal skin grows there.



I proved it to myself, and removed over 20 freckles and small moles from my skin.
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If you don't like it don't do it, but you have zero right to tell me what to do with MY BODY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


Only if you are a woman trying to murder "your" unborn baby.

Otherwise, you own nothing and your body can be removed from your vehicle and incarcerated for nothing whatsoever besides being on a roadway or similar way of experiencing the movement of time in the third dimension.

And don't even think you can walk besides the roadway either. Only an aspiring criminal wouldn't pay the State for the "privelege" of driving.

This irony brought to you by hippies everywhere. Fuck their rights, they are less than human!
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proven to cure cancer.
 Quoting: Rtruth


Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in?

Who proved it, when?

I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


You sound like someone that gets flu shots. LOL nobel peace prize hahaha are you kidding me?
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I'm all pro weed but there's that chance there is people like me, quite a few on google.
I became a pot head for a year i've stopped now it's triggered something in my brain.. depersonalized/mild psychosis/anxiety attacks and it's been 2 and a half months since my last hit.
But if alcohol is legal weed definately should be but these risks need to be advertised.
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proven to cure cancer.
 Quoting: Rtruth


Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in?

Who proved it, when?

I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


putin
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You can Prove it to yourself like I did.


I put a dab of Hash oil / Cannabis Extract on some freckles that were on my arm.


They were gone in 48 hours.




It was like my body killed the freckle, purged and pushed it out in two days, then scabbed over.


Now only normal skin grows there.



I proved it to myself, and removed over 20 freckles and small moles from my skin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


Where do you buy it?
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I'm all pro weed but there's that chance there is people like me, quite a few on google.
I became a pot head for a year i've stopped now it's triggered something in my brain.. depersonalized/mild psychosis/anxiety attacks and it's been 2 and a half months since my last hit.
But if alcohol is legal weed definately should be but these risks need to be advertised.
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Oh no, man! Guydudebro, you've got to understand, weed is like so natural, bra! It's from Jesus and Buddah! If you're having any problems with it, it's because the MAN put that idea into your head, man!

(Satire)
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The Earth provides everything we need to survive and "treat" ailments. The dark side does not want us to know that
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If you don't like it don't do it, but you have zero right to tell me what to do with MY BODY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33661162


Only if you are a woman trying to murder "your" unborn baby.

Otherwise, you own nothing and your body can be removed from your vehicle and incarcerated for nothing whatsoever besides being on a roadway or similar way of experiencing the movement of time in the third dimension.

And don't even think you can walk besides the roadway either. Only an aspiring criminal wouldn't pay the State for the "privelege" of driving.

This irony brought to you by hippies everywhere. Fuck their rights, they are less than human!
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Not one bit that you just wrote makes any sense in any language that i know...
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You can Prove it to yourself like I did.


I put a dab of Hash oil / Cannabis Extract on some freckles that were on my arm.


They were gone in 48 hours.




It was like my body killed the freckle, purged and pushed it out in two days, then scabbed over.


Now only normal skin grows there.



I proved it to myself, and removed over 20 freckles and small moles from my skin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


Where do you buy it?
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Dont be so naive
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I just hate the munchies/how tired I become :(
;)
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proven to cure cancer.
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Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in?

Who proved it, when?

I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


76ggvvv
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


Considering the cancer study brings in some of the largest $$$ signs on the planet i do not see any reason why they would release the info that easily. If we cured cancer TODAY, BILLIONS of dollars would stop flowing. Im sure even you can wrap your head around this.
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if certain cannabinoids are of medical value, they would have to be synthesised in a lab for use.

no single cannabis sample is guaranteed to contain any desired cannabinoid or it's levels.


currently placebo (which is also used extensively in chinese medicine)is more effective than cannabis products medicinally, multiple years long trials where it is legal have shown this time and time again.


it's legal where i am right now, people with cancer try tinctures, oils, ointments, distilations, poultices, foodstuffs plus a multitude of hemp products, it and still die of cancer and other diseases just as quick.

canabis has two recognised temporary symptom relief properties relating to uterine discomfort during menstruation and reduction of of intraocular pressure.


in both cases other medicines are more effective.


if indeed it has been used as a medicine for thousands of years and cures cancer, why wasn't cancer wiped out?

canabis and it's products are cheaper and easier to obtain than most modern medicines and cancer isone of the leading causes of death.

people touting it as a cancer cure are plain wrong.
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..WHAT IT DOES IS MASK THE ILL FEELING --ONLY

..HELPS YOU EAT --ONLY
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..THAT IS A LOT / BELIEVE ME / GOT STOMACH CARCINOMA

..IT' POT MORNING , NOON . NIGHT,,,24/7

..NO MORE T3 OR KETAMIN ONLY IF TERRIBLE PAIN 2/T3 ONCE N A WHILE ONLY

..WEED WORKS .. THANK YOU LORD GOD ALLMIGHTY
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You can Prove it to yourself like I did.


I put a dab of Hash oil / Cannabis Extract on some freckles that were on my arm.


They were gone in 48 hours.




It was like my body killed the freckle, purged and pushed it out in two days, then scabbed over.


Now only normal skin grows there.



I proved it to myself, and removed over 20 freckles and small moles from my skin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


Where do you buy it?
 Quoting: Holy_Diver



You can make an extract of cannabis essential oil yourself.

Or you can buy it from a Medicinal Cannabis shop if you have a Card and you live in a Med State.
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You can Prove it to yourself like I did.


I put a dab of Hash oil / Cannabis Extract on some freckles that were on my arm.


They were gone in 48 hours.




It was like my body killed the freckle, purged and pushed it out in two days, then scabbed over.


Now only normal skin grows there.



I proved it to myself, and removed over 20 freckles and small moles from my skin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


Where do you buy it?
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Dont be so naive
 Quoting: SnakeBite


I have some blemishes I'd like to clear up. Seriously, where can I get some?
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proven to cure cancer.
 Quoting: Rtruth


Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in?

Who proved it, when?

I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


76ggvvv
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


Considering the cancer study brings in some of the largest $$$ signs on the planet i do not see any reason why they would release the info that easily. If we cured cancer TODAY, BILLIONS of dollars would stop flowing. Im sure even you can wrap your head around this.
 Quoting: SnakeBite


I'm sure they could figure out other ways to exploit us
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HolyDiver I had a family member perish from the effects of metastic breast cancer that spread to her brain. I watched first hand how the chemotherapy and radiation treatments reiked havoc on her body and diminished her quality of life. I know now that the chemo & radiation treatments served to weaken her immune system and likely facilitated the spread of cancer through her body.

If you had a family member experience this and new there was a natural plant that had few & marginal side effects and could provide much needed relief and inhibit the growth & spread of cancer cells and prolong your family members life - how would you feel about the federal government or any politician or pharmaceutical company telling you that your family member should not have access to the substance because they stand to profit from withholding it from the public?

I think it's a crime and an absolute travesty. Government and private interest groups prove time and time again they are not in the business of promoting individuals well-being and saving their lives, only profitting off of them. They don't care about people dying or suffering, only the dollar signs.
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You have an emotional response that you are now putting before rational discussion based on personal experience.

Both of my in-laws went through Chemo and Radiation at Henry Ford Hospital and, four years later, are going gangbusters. Hair grown back and leading an active lifestyle at age 80-something.

I'm watching Tony Iommi, Founding Member and lead guitarist for Black Sabbath, go through it somewhat publicly, and though he's gotten frail and lost his hair, he's finishing a new album and planning an Australian tour.

On the other hand, you had Ronnie James Dio diagnosed with cancer, gone through the treatments, and dead six months later.

Your emotions try to make you feel better about your loss. But the reality is you can't save everyone, even those who have the money and resources to have the finest treatment.

I'm sure Ronnie James Dio had three dozen people tell him, every day, that "Pot cures cancer" and I'd bet the farm that he tried it. Still dead.

What about Steve Jobs? How did the alt.medicine work out for him?

The end of the day: We are Mortal and we will die. The statement "Pot Cures cancer" is invalid, since cancer people with access to pot are dying in droves.

It sullies the waters of valid research when Potheads make statements like this. It makes the whole thing look silly.

It scares away the money that might go towards research.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


So basically what you're spouting is that there is no cure for cancer. Chemo might work, then again it might not. You might go through the horrors chemo wreaks on your body and just die anyway. Yet you're venemously opposed to another method that may or may not help(studies are ongoing) on the basis that it might make you high. You also seem to assume (as do a lot of potheads) that inhaling cannabis is the be all and end all of treatment. This whole thread is skewed and stupid, and you are an infuriating troll.

I'd rather smell like an ashtray than smell like your shitty attitude.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
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Okay, I'm outnumbered. This explains a great deal about how our society is doing these days.

That said, go ahead and unleash all your cannabinoids against cancer, I can't wait for cancer to be 100% eradicated by one little plant.

Let me know how that works out.

I think it's just another excuse for junkies to get high.
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.FOR SOME YES NOT JUNK THOW
MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD MASK UNDERLYEING AILMENTS COULD BE ANYTHING COMMON COLD ,FLU==BUT COPE WITH THE HIGH !
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yes, we know ^^, only problem i have had with it is , sometimes it makes my type of anxiety bad , but not usually. still smoke sometimes.
 Quoting: AtsuiPanda


Hey all that means is that you need to find your type, Indica or sativa then spread from there to find something that suits you. Thats the beauty of it, theres something right for everyone:D
 Quoting: SnakeBite


Something I wish to share... Recently quit smoking cannabis and now I only vape about two weeks now... Thing is it no longer appears to matter what strain I vape, they all produce the same effects all the time and as an added incentive, I'm using about 25% less product as I was before. Both my lungs & pocketbook show an improvement with vaping over combustion cannabis.
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Folks, isn't it time for a modern day "Johnny Appleseed"? This time he can cross the globe planting his seeds. But maybe we should ponder the seed he should be planting stoner. Any ideas?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7111119
You can also kill cancer cells with glasses of ozonated water, as apposed to Chemo.
AS well as Essiac tea, cures cancer, cheaper than weed.

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Some people's ignorance astounds me.

You take pharmaceutical company's word and allow chemicals to be placed in your body that drain your life force... Food with aspartame, hydrolysed vegetable proteins, fluoride in the water.

Derp.

Considering the place in history leading up to the legislation regarding Cannabis - Marijuana is the legal term - you still wish to believe that it's been banned according to suppposed "side effects"?

You wish to control people based on unrevised information? Let alone at all?

Cannabis roughly translated means plant of the gods. It came natural, in the earth, yet you prefer man made alternatives that have the very likely potential of killing a fully grown adult male...

You think that Cannabis will make you lazy? It allows you to realise that stupid shit isn't worth the time therefore you don't do it, as it becomes a waste of time.

THC preserves your mental state over a prolonged time, decreasing the potential of being diagnosed with alzheimers and dimentia. Don't ask me for the linky or stinky, because that's pure laziness.

It doesn't reduce cell growth or abundance within your brain as it protects your neurological endings, and holds certain cells within your brain in suspended motion whilst under the influence. Upon being released from this state, these previously suspended cells come back to life.

I smoke weed infrequently, but I respect the plant for all of it's unique properties.

Don't think "oh derp a derp, this guy is wrong" but don't say I'm right until you've actually delved far enough into the topic to gain a full understanding.

I think people denying the existence of a plant with so many beneficial qualities based on the programming indoctrinated through governments and schools without even knowing jack all, is a shame.
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So basically what you're spouting is that there is no cure for cancer. Chemo might work, then again it might not. You might go through the horrors chemo wreaks on your body and just die anyway. Yet you're venemously opposed to another method that may or may not help(studies are ongoing) on the basis that it might make you high. You also seem to assume (as do a lot of potheads) that inhaling cannabis is the be all and end all of treatment. This whole thread is skewed and stupid, and you are an infuriating troll.

I'd rather smell like an ashtray than smell like your shitty attitude.
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I'm not against trying anything to cure whatever. But if you're going to throw all your weight behind one thing and claim you have a "Cure" I need some serious research in a respected publication by people qualified to make that statement.

It's really not asking that much.

The whole idea of the "man" keeping a cure down because of Big Pharma is absurd. If pot cured people, Big Pharma would simply grow it and provide it at a premium.

The fact that you hippies take this as being "Against" it just goes to show how much emotion you have vested in this versus actual valid intellectual opinion based on facts.

Meanwhile, Chemo and Radiation, along with other Medical procedures are coming along very nicely in getting rid of cancer in patients. I'm sorry you don't like it, or that it's hard work, or that it takes it's toll on bodies.

The worst part of it all is that you, as an advocate, are actually hurting your own cause by buying into 3rd party wacky advocates who actually probably work for Big Pharma to sully the waters by making you all look like whack-jobs.

But you're too emotional to step out of your cloud of ineffectual arguments to see that.

At the end of the day, you'd do much better spending this time and energy petitioning your elected officials and gathering money to make financial contributions to their coffers.

That's how you get things done, not by whining on the internet against "the man."
:ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd:

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