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yes, we know ^^, only problem i have had with it is , sometimes it makes my type of anxiety bad , but not usually. still smoke sometimes.
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Sad thing is if it were legal you would have options and access to strains (like Indica strains) that do not produce a head or cognitive 'high' and therefore would not exacerbate your anxious feelings. Heck you would even have access to forms of cannabis that remove the psychoactive effects of marijuana altogether if you wanted and were just pursuing pain management or the other health effects provided by the plant.

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Funny enough its the Sativa dominant strains that help my anxiety the most. Indicas made me feel like I'm walking all weird and cause my anxiety to skyrocket.
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So people who smoke marijuana don't get cancer? Or ... ?
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They certaintly don't get cancer from smoking it. This study found some correlation of a 'protective effect'. Cannabis also known to have anti-tumor effects on the body.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

The new findings "were against our expectations," said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years.

"We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect.
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Holy diver,

I came to this thread with an open mind.
I Thought it was going to be another pothead rally, anyway after reading the entire thread I can see that clearly for some that cannabis is a cure and should be legal.

What works for one may not work for another and for you to tout chantix as being "side effect free" man you need not look far but the manufactures own warning labels to find that your wrong.

You make yourself look foolish and uneducated, and whats worse is that you also appear to be unwilling to change or be educated.

I can only take from the amount of post you have made in this thread that you hope to persuade people in your favor, being outside and looking in I can tell you with confidence that you have no one on your team.
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I've got a journal full of studies etc to go along with my grow journal. I would post the link but I'm not sure if I would be banned, you can find it by searching "shadeslay rollitup". Some good ammo there to counter the anti's as I tried to keep most of it from gov. sites or scientific journals.

I'll post some snippets though.

Cannabinoids are a class of chemical compounds which include the phytocannabinoids (oxygen-containing C21 aromatic hydrocarbon compounds found in the cannabis plant), and chemical compounds which mimic the actions of phytocannabinoids or have a similar structure (e.g. endocannabinoids, found in the nervous and immune systems of animals and that activate cannabinoid receptors).[1] The most notable of the cannabinoids is ∆9-tetrahydrocannabinol (∆9-THC—the primary psychoactive compound of cannabis).[2][3] Synthetic cannabinoids encompass a variety of distinct chemical classes: the classical cannabinoids structurally related to THC, the nonclassical cannabinoids including the aminoalkylindoles, 1,5-diarylpyrazoles, quinolines and arylsulphonamides, as well as eicosanoids related to the endocannabinoids.[2]


Harm reduction-the cannabis paradox
[link to www.harmreductionjournal.com]
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
As evolution proceeded, the role that the cannabinoid system played in animal life continuously increased. It is now known that this system maintains homeostasis within and across the organizational scales of all animals. Within a cell, cannabinoids control basic metabolic processes such as glucose metabolism [17]. Cannabinoids regulate intercellular communication, especially in the immune [18] and nervous systems [19]. In general, cannabinoids modulate and coordinate tissues, organ and body systems (including the cardiovascular [20], digestive [16], endocrine [21], excretory [22,23], immune [18], musculo-skeletal [24], nervous [19], reproductive [25], and respiratory [26] systems).

The homeostatic action of cannabinoids on so many physiological structures and processes is the basis for the hypothesis that the endocannabinoid system is nothing less than a naturally evolved harm reduction system. Endocannabinoids protect by fine-tuning and regulating dynamic biochemical steady states within the ranges required for healthy biological function. The endocannabinoid system itself appears to be up- or down-regulated as a function of need. As will be detailed later in this article, endocannabinoid levels naturally increase in the case of head injury and stroke [28], and the number of cannabinoid receptors increases in response to nerve injury and the associated pain [29]. In contrast, the number of cannabinoid receptors is reduced when tolerance to cannabinoids is induced [30].

When a body is physically damaged, the endocannabinoids are called on to reduce inflammation, protect neurons [136], regulate cardiac rhythms [137] and protect the heart form oxygen deprivation [20]. In humans suffering from colorectal cancer, endocannabinoid levels are elevated in an effort to control the cancer [74]. They help relieve emotional suffering by reducing pain and facilitating movement beyond the fears of unpleasant memories [119].


Antibacterial Cannabinoids from Cannabis sativa: A Structure−Activity Study
[link to pubs.acs.org]

This is your brain cancer on cannabis.

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Antitumor Effects
[link to www.cancer.gov]
One study in mice and rats suggested that cannabinoids may have a protective effect against the development of certain types of tumors.[3] During this 2-year study, groups of mice and rats were given various doses of THC by gavage. A dose-related decrease in the incidence of hepatic adenoma tumors and hepatocellular carcinoma was observed in the mice. Decreased incidences of benign tumors (polyps and adenomas) in other organs (mammary gland, uterus, pituitary, testis, and pancreas) were also noted in the rats. In another study, delta-9-THC, delta-8-THC, and cannabinol were found to inhibit the growth of Lewis lung adenocarcinoma cells in vitro and in vivo .[4] In addition, other tumors have been shown to be sensitive to cannabinoid-induced growth inhibition.[5-8]

Cannabinoids may cause antitumor effects by various mechanisms, including induction of cell death, inhibition of cell growth, and inhibition of tumor angiogenesis and metastasis.[9-11] Cannabinoids appear to kill tumor cells but do not affect their nontransformed counterparts and may even protect them from cell death. These compounds have been shown to induce apoptosis in glioma cells in culture and induce regression of glioma tumors in mice and rats. Cannabinoids protect normal glial cells of astroglial and oligodendroglial lineages from apoptosis mediated by the CB1 receptor.[12]


Endocannabinoids in the Retina: From Marijuana to Neuroprotection
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The active component of the marijuana plant Cannabis sativa, Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), produces numerous beneficial effects, including analgesia, appetite stimulation and nausea reduction, in addition to its psychotropic effects. THC mimics the action of endogenous fatty acid derivatives, referred to as endocannabinoids. The effects of THC and the endocannabinoids are mediated largely by metabotropic receptors that are distributed throughout the nervous and peripheral organ systems. There is great interest in endocannabinoids for their role in neuroplasticity as well as for therapeutic use in numerous conditions, including pain, stroke, cancer, obesity, osteoporosis, fertility, neurodegenerative diseases, multiple sclerosis, glaucoma and inflammatory diseases, among others. However, there has been relatively far less research on this topic in the eye and retina compared with the brain and other organ systems. The purpose of this review is to introduce the “cannabinergic” field to the retinal community. All of the fundamental work on cannabinoids has been performed in non-retinal preparations, necessitating extensive dependence on this literature for background. Happily, the retinal cannabinoid system has much in common with other regions of the central nervous system. For example, there is general agreement that cannabinoids suppress dopamine release and presynaptically reduce transmitter release from cones and bipolar cells. How these effects relate to light and dark adaptation, receptive field formation, temporal properties of ganglion cells or visual perception are unknown. The presence of multiple endocannabinoids, degradative enzymes with their bioactive metabolites, and receptors provides a broad spectrum of opportunities for basic research and to identify targets for therapeutic application to retinal diseases.

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I've got a journal full of studies etc to go along with my grow journal. I would post the link but I'm not sure if I would be banned, you can find it by searching "shadeslay rollitup". Some good ammo there to counter the anti's as I tried to keep most of it from gov. sites or scientific journals.

I'll post some snippets though.



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So... will the anti's post their rebuttal of the .gov evidence..?

I'll wait.
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Theres a video on youtube with dr coldwell explaining how you canlive off hemp seeds aloneand other useful info, but the fda would never tell anyone that why because they don't believe in nutrition they believe in "medicine treatments" not cures its more profitable.



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[I'm not sure how it works, but Chantix would be one example as an honest-to-goodness Pharma product that does what it says with virtually no side-effects. Not only can I direct you to proof of this without calling you a troll or lazy, I can ALSO provide personal anecdotal evidence along with my wife's testimony.
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Now, that sounds like some good stuff...I like Cronenberg

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By night four, my dreams began to take on characteristics of a David Cronenberg movie. Every time I’d drift off, I’d dream that an invisible, malevolent entity was emanating from my air conditioner, which seemed to be rattling even more than usual. I’d nap for twenty minutes or so before bolting awake with an involuntary gasp. I had the uneasy sense that I wasn’t alone.
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I've got a journal full of studies etc to go along with my grow journal. I would post the link but I'm not sure if I would be banned, you can find it by searching "shadeslay rollitup". Some good ammo there to counter the anti's as I tried to keep most of it from gov. sites or scientific journals.

I'll post some snippets though.



 Quoting: Coma Patient #7


So... will the anti's post their rebuttal of the .gov evidence..?

I'll wait.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Here's another good one, don't know how to imbed images though, so I'll just post the link. It's a chart showing the properties of some of the different cannabinoids.

[link to imgur.com]
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Holy diver,

I came to this thread with an open mind.
I Thought it was going to be another pothead rally, anyway after reading the entire thread I can see that clearly for some that cannabis is a cure and should be legal.

What works for one may not work for another and for you to tout chantix as being "side effect free" man you need not look far but the manufactures own warning labels to find that your wrong.

You make yourself look foolish and uneducated, and whats worse is that you also appear to be unwilling to change or be educated.

I can only take from the amount of post you have made in this thread that you hope to persuade people in your favor, being outside and looking in I can tell you with confidence that you have no one on your team.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27113427


I don't have a team and am not looking for one.

I don't wish to persuade anyone of anything except to be skeptical of fantastic claims like "Cannabis cures cancer!!!!!!!!!!"

Perhaps Cannabis:

1. Cures certain cancers at certain stages in certain people
2. Makes mainstream cancer treatments easier to bear.
3. Has other medicinal values
4. Can be engineered to work it's magics without contributing to the global epidemic of drug addiction/altered state preoccupation/general idiocy.
5. Needs further studies by qualified scientific professionals.

Perhaps all of those things, but to say "Cannabis cures cancer!!!!!!!!!!" makes the whole thing look silly, con-artisty, leftist propaganda, or worse.

I'm actually trying to help the cause by squelching dumb people who make stupid statements.
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Hey Diver

If cannabis does not sure cancer, among other things, then why does our Government have a patent on it?

Thread: U.S. Government owns the patent on cannabis cures


Here is the Patent (filed in 2001):
[link to patft.uspto.gov]

"Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention. A particular disclosed class of cannabinoids useful as neuroprotective antioxidants is formula (I) wherein the R group is independently selected from the group consisting of H, CH.sub.3, and COCH.sub.3"

Inventors: Hampson; Aidan J. (Irvine, CA), Axelrod; Julius (Rockville, MD), Grimaldi; Maurizio (Bethesda, MD)
Assignee: The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services (Washington, DC)


The Government confirms the healing powers of cannabis in their patent, yet will not share its use with the public. The Judicial Branch of our government continues to classify cannabis as a Schedule 1 Controlled Substance.

Why are people still having to go to Canada to cure their cancer with hemp oil treatment?

Because cancer is a BIG $$$$$$ BUSINESS
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Holy diver,

I came to this thread with an open mind.
I Thought it was going to be another pothead rally, anyway after reading the entire thread I can see that clearly for some that cannabis is a cure and should be legal.

What works for one may not work for another and for you to tout chantix as being "side effect free" man you need not look far but the manufactures own warning labels to find that your wrong.

You make yourself look foolish and uneducated, and whats worse is that you also appear to be unwilling to change or be educated.

I can only take from the amount of post you have made in this thread that you hope to persuade people in your favor, being outside and looking in I can tell you with confidence that you have no one on your team.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27113427


I don't have a team and am not looking for one.

I don't wish to persuade anyone of anything except to be skeptical of fantastic claims like "Cannabis cures cancer!!!!!!!!!!"

Perhaps Cannabis:

1. Cures certain cancers at certain stages in certain people
2. Makes mainstream cancer treatments easier to bear.
3. Has other medicinal values
4. Can be engineered to work it's magics without contributing to the global epidemic of drug addiction/altered state preoccupation/general idiocy.
5. Needs further studies by qualified scientific professionals.

Perhaps all of those things, but to say "Cannabis cures cancer!!!!!!!!!!" makes the whole thing look silly, con-artisty, leftist propaganda, or worse.

I'm actually trying to help the cause by squelching dumb people who make stupid statements.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


National Cancer Institute scrubs “anti-tumoral effect” of cannabinoids from website

[link to blog.norml.org]


You may recall last Wednesday when we pointed out this incredible paragraph on the website of the National Cancer Institute at cancer.gov, on their general information about medical cannabis, touting its antitumoral effects:


The potential benefits of medicinal Cannabis for people living with cancer include antiemetic effects, appetite stimulation, pain relief, and improved sleep. In the practice of integrative oncology, the health care provider may recommend medicinal Cannabis not only for symptom management but also for its possible direct antitumor effect.

NCI apparently got a talking to from someone, because now that page has been scrubbed of any reference to the direct antitumoral effects of cannabis:


The potential benefits of medicinal Cannabis for people living with cancer include antiemetic effects, appetite stimulation, pain relief, and improved sleep. Though no relevant surveys of practice patterns exist, it appears that physicians caring for cancer patients who prescribe medicinal Cannabis predominantly do so for symptom management.

See for yourself:
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yes, we know ^^, only problem i have had with it is , sometimes it makes my type of anxiety bad , but not usually. still smoke sometimes.
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Anxiety is often vit/mineral deficiency. Mine is calmed w/magnesium sups.
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Oh shut up.
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proven to cure cancer.
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Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in?

Who proved it, when?

I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing.
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There was an article a few years back on CNN.com showing preliminary findings of this nature from Harvard..
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Hey Diver

If cannabis does not sure cancer, among other things, then why does our Government have a patent on it?

Thread: U.S. Government owns the patent on cannabis cures


Here is the Patent (filed in 2001):
[link to patft.uspto.gov]

"Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention. A particular disclosed class of cannabinoids useful as neuroprotective antioxidants is formula (I) wherein the R group is independently selected from the group consisting of H, CH.sub.3, and COCH.sub.3"

Inventors: Hampson; Aidan J. (Irvine, CA), Axelrod; Julius (Rockville, MD), Grimaldi; Maurizio (Bethesda, MD)
Assignee: The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services (Washington, DC)


The Government confirms the healing powers of cannabis in their patent, yet will not share its use with the public. The Judicial Branch of our government continues to classify cannabis as a Schedule 1 Controlled Substance.

Why are people still having to go to Canada to cure their cancer with hemp oil treatment?

Because cancer is a BIG $$$$$$ BUSINESS
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More evidence:

From the Government Patent link:
[link to patft.uspto.gov]


(Halfway down the page)


"DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF SOME SPECIFIC EMBODIMENTS

This invention provides antioxidant compounds and compositions, such as pharmaceutical compositions, that include cannabinoids that act as free radical scavengers for use in prophylaxis and treatment of disease. The invention also includes methods for using the antioxidants in prevention and treatment of pathological conditions such as ischemia (tissue hypoxia), and in subjects who have been exposed to oxidant inducing agents such as cancer chemotherapy, toxins, radiation, or other sources of oxidative stress. The compositions and methods described herein are also used for preventing oxidative damage in transplanted organs, for inhibiting reoxygenation injury following reperfusion of ischemic tissues (for example in heart disease), and for any other condition that is mediated by oxidative or free radical mechanisms of injury. In particular embodiments of the invention, the compounds and compositions are used in the treatment of ischemic cardiovascular and neurovascular conditions, and neurodegenerative diseases. However the present invention can also be used as an antioxidant treatment in non-neurological diseases. "




What say you Diver????
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yes, we know ^^, only problem i have had with it is , sometimes it makes my type of anxiety bad , but not usually. still smoke sometimes.
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Anxiety is often vit/mineral deficiency. Mine is calmed w/magnesium sups.
 Quoting: LD50


Oh shut up.
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THis is true. SO YOU shut up and get back to Frankie's thread.
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According to peoples testimony it has indeed cured their cancer. I have no doubt that it has done the things people say.

It does ease chemo poison treatment. I have witnessed this myself up close.

It does ease pain. I have witnessed this myself up close.

It will help in many situations.

It gets you high. So do many, many, many forms of BIG PHARMA meds...this is a fact and so does booze. The high in fact from some of these meds are way more intense. The addiction to these meds are far more devestating on society. Perhaps they should work on removing this high from all of the meds currently making someone high.

If you are going to have mental illness then you should stay away from the drug and any other things that will push you into a deep situation.

It gets you high and can cure things. Use it as you please. Learn for yourself if it is the answer you need for whatever reason you choose.
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Need more CBD's. Like more cowbell, only with CBDs...

[link to www.cannabis-med.org]

METABOLIC ABNORMALITIES, ABNORMAL STRESS RESPONSE AND CHRONIC


INFLAMMATION IN SCHIZOPHRENIA – POTENTIAL TARGETS FOR
CANNABINOID MEDICINES?


In recent years much concern has arisen over the possibility that cannabis smoking in
adolescence may be a risk factor for schizophrenia in adult life, although this remains a
controversial issue. In contrast, considerable interest in the potential role of the non-psychoactive naturally occurring cannabinoid cannabidiol (CBD) as an anti-psychotic medicine has also developed. The anti-inflammatory and immunomodulatory effects of both THC and CBD are well established. A systematic literature review has suggested the intriguing possibility that habitual cannabis use may protect cognitive function in schizophrenia patients, and CBD has been shown to improve a marker of this in healthy subjects.


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Also from the Government Patent link

[link to patft.uspto.gov]

(Almost to the bottom)

"Previous studies have also indicated that cannabidiol is not toxic, even when chronically administered to humans or given in large acute doses (700 mg/day). "


Seriously you guys need to read this Patent!!!
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Holy Diver, look up the Endocannabinoid system, the info is out there.

Been using CBD extract from Dixie now for months and it knocks out my daily migraines very quickly. It works about 80% of the time and when it doesn't I fall back to my prescribed meds. The important thing is that I've reduced the intake of the prescribed meds by about 80% and feel better for it. The speed at which it works is really fast too, the prescriptions take about 15+ minutes to provide relief while the CBD extract gives relief in less than 2 minutes.

The CBD extract is legal to ship in all states as it's derived from industrial hemp oil that was legally imported.

The downside is that it's still expensive but I'm hoping that with hemp legal to grow in CO soon (with the passage of 64) having domestic hemp will bring down the price.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying everyone would have similar results but I know it works for me and the Mrs. (She has also had similar results for menstrual pain/headaches, she experienced very fast relief too).
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..PRICE WILL GO UP,UP ,UP.>.BECAUSE WEED HAS A MIND OF IT'S OWN...LOL
..BUGS LOVE THIS PLANT YOU CAN NOT GROW LARGE AMOUNTS INDOORS spider mites take over and are impossible to stop without complete repropagation & sterilization.

..this was proven at FLIN-FLON GOVERMENT GROW-OP I WAS THERE
TOTAL ...FLOP

..THEY EVAN HIRED PEOPLE TO PICK BUGS BY HAND..lol
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Holy Diver, look up the Endocannabinoid system, the info is out there.

Been using CBD extract from Dixie now for months and it knocks out my daily migraines very quickly. It works about 80% of the time and when it doesn't I fall back to my prescribed meds. The important thing is that I've reduced the intake of the prescribed meds by about 80% and feel better for it. The speed at which it works is really fast too, the prescriptions take about 15+ minutes to provide relief while the CBD extract gives relief in less than 2 minutes.

The CBD extract is legal to ship in all states as it's derived from industrial hemp oil that was legally imported.

The downside is that it's still expensive but I'm hoping that with hemp legal to grow in CO soon (with the passage of 64) having domestic hemp will bring down the price.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying everyone would have similar results but I know it works for me and the Mrs. (She has also had similar results for menstrual pain/headaches, she experienced very fast relief too).
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..PRICE WILL GO UP,UP ,UP.>.BECAUSE WEED HAS A MIND OF IT'S OWN...LOL
..BUGS LOVE THIS PLANT YOU CAN NOT GROW LARGE AMOUNTS INDOORS spider mites take over and are impossible to stop without complete repropagation & sterilization.

..this was proven at FLIN-FLON GOVERMENT GROW-OP I WAS THERE
TOTAL ...FLOP

..THEY EVAN HIRED PEOPLE TO PICK BUGS BY HAND..lol

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Prices will go up when it becomes legal.

Spider mites, powdery mildew and various other diseases can attack the plants. Never had a mite or powdery mildew or any other various disease touch the 30 constant ladies, clean enviroment is crucial to a perfect crop and this is done with some serious hands on love and care.


Flin Flon is a joke. Live not to far from the place.
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What say you Diver????
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I say that all sounds like good stuff. It did not say "cures cancer" however, which was the orignal point I commmented on in this thread.

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What say you Diver????
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I say that all sounds like good stuff. It did not say "cures cancer" however, which was the orignal point I commmented on in this thread.
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Big Pharma surely does not cure anything and does not even mean it.

Fuck you, Un-Holy Diver
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What say you Diver????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6765189


I say that all sounds like good stuff. It did not say "cures cancer" however, which was the orignal point I commmented on in this thread.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


You have no comments about the amazing treatment of disease here?

No comment about the Government owning this patent?

No comment about the following, from the patent, where the Gov states these cannabis antioxidants were used IN THE PREVENTION AND TREATMENT OF CANCER?

What more proof do you need?

You are only being stubborn in the face of such evidence.

From the Government Patent link:
[link to patft.uspto.gov]


(Halfway down the page)


"DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF SOME SPECIFIC EMBODIMENTS

This invention provides antioxidant compounds and compositions, such as pharmaceutical compositions, that include cannabinoids that act as free radical scavengers for use in prophylaxis and treatment of disease. The invention also includes methods for using the antioxidants in prevention and treatment of pathological conditions such as ischemia (tissue hypoxia), and in subjects who have been exposed to oxidant inducing agents such as cancer chemotherapy, toxins, radiation, or other sources of oxidative stress. The compositions and methods described herein are also used for preventing oxidative damage in transplanted organs, for inhibiting reoxygenation injury following reperfusion of ischemic tissues (for example in heart disease), and for any other condition that is mediated by oxidative or free radical mechanisms of injury. In particular embodiments of the invention, the compounds and compositions are used in the treatment of ischemic cardiovascular and neurovascular conditions, and neurodegenerative diseases. However the present invention can also be used as an antioxidant treatment in non-neurological diseases. "
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The problem is that everyone who uses this plant is delusional. Over 75-80 percent of the world now uses it..look around...is the world a better place? just legalize it and things will be better?
"Mary Jane" EARNED the name "Devil weed" they weren't joking. For those of you smoking it, I will repeat that: MARY JANE EARNED THE NAME "DEVIL WEED".
In case you have not thought about it...because you may be "spaced out" All of Congress and Senate are made up of ex "Flower Children" Their insane thoughts of mind control and Big Brother spying started when they " burned their first roach" now you are seeing the logical conclusion to the "devil weed" Caveat!
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The problem is that everyone who uses this plant is delusional. Over 75-80 percent of the world now uses it..look around...is the world a better place? just legalize it and things will be better?
"Mary Jane" EARNED the name "Devil weed" they weren't joking. For those of you smoking it, I will repeat that: MARY JANE EARNED THE NAME "DEVIL WEED".
In case you have not thought about it...because you may be "spaced out" All of Congress and Senate are made up of ex "Flower Children" Their insane thoughts of mind control and Big Brother spying started when they " burned their first roach" now you are seeing the logical conclusion to the "devil weed" Caveat!
 Quoting: Daanl's Dream


Devil weed is a separate entity and deserves it's own name...

Jimson Weed

Notorious for its toxicity, Jimson Weed is a large flowering plant with the genus Datura and the family Solanaceae. It has long white trumpet-like flowers. Its seeds grow in pods and can be consumed (or its leaves can be smoked) to produce an extremely potent psychoactive effect.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6765189


I say that all sounds like good stuff. It did not say "cures cancer" however, which was the orignal point I commmented on in this thread.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


And another thing...


Do they even say chemo "cures" cancer? NO... why?
Because the folks in charge of all this medical business bullshit have replaced the word "cure" with "treatment"- good luck finding the word "cure" in THEIR verbage!
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The problem is that everyone who uses this plant is delusional. Over 75-80 percent of the world now uses it..look around...is the world a better place? just legalize it and things will be better?
"Mary Jane" EARNED the name "Devil weed" they weren't joking. For those of you smoking it, I will repeat that: MARY JANE EARNED THE NAME "DEVIL WEED".
In case you have not thought about it...because you may be "spaced out" All of Congress and Senate are made up of ex "Flower Children" Their insane thoughts of mind control and Big Brother spying started when they " burned their first roach" now you are seeing the logical conclusion to the "devil weed" Caveat!
 Quoting: Daanl's Dream


did you watch it in a horror movie, and now feeding it to us as true.

Get ALL your fucking facts right, then come back. Out now!
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The problem is that everyone who uses this plant is delusional. Over 75-80 percent of the world now uses it..look around...is the world a better place? just legalize it and things will be better?
"Mary Jane" EARNED the name "Devil weed" they weren't joking. For those of you smoking it, I will repeat that: MARY JANE EARNED THE NAME "DEVIL WEED".
In case you have not thought about it...because you may be "spaced out" All of Congress and Senate are made up of ex "Flower Children" Their insane thoughts of mind control and Big Brother spying started when they " burned their first roach" now you are seeing the logical conclusion to the "devil weed" Caveat!
 Quoting: Daanl's Dream


Devil weed is a separate entity and deserves it's own name...

Jimson Weed

Notorious for its toxicity, Jimson Weed is a large flowering plant with the genus Datura and the family Solanaceae. It has long white trumpet-like flowers. Its seeds grow in pods and can be consumed (or its leaves can be smoked) to produce an extremely potent psychoactive effect.

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thank you my friend, I am 67 years old. Been an herbalist since the age of 7. If I had meant the Jamestown weed, I would have said so. :)
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The problem is that everyone who uses this plant is delusional. Over 75-80 percent of the world now uses it..look around...is the world a better place? just legalize it and things will be better?
"Mary Jane" EARNED the name "Devil weed" they weren't joking. For those of you smoking it, I will repeat that: MARY JANE EARNED THE NAME "DEVIL WEED".
In case you have not thought about it...because you may be "spaced out" All of Congress and Senate are made up of ex "Flower Children" Their insane thoughts of mind control and Big Brother spying started when they " burned their first roach" now you are seeing the logical conclusion to the "devil weed" Caveat!
 Quoting: Daanl's Dream


did you watch it in a horror movie, and now feeding it to us as true.

Get ALL your fucking facts right, then come back. Out now!
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I am 67 years old, Been an herbalist since the age of 7. Do not listen to me. I do not care! You are an evil spawn of Satan and YOUR whole intent is to destroy the seed of the woman. Fire up another joint, I only speak to the wise. :)
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HOLY DIVER- Is that you Doc? I thought you were to busy with your medical practice in Detroit to be posting on a forum like this one. Hey, did you ever get that big Chantix deal you wanted? I hear they're paying extra now if mention the promos in your daily blogs, but only for social sites like Facebook... Come by Ann harbor sometime and we'll do lunch or better yet have your wife make that pot-roast I love.

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P.S Don't worry about the potheads to much they're more into the organics than the synthetics.
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