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The problem is that everyone who uses this plant is delusional. Over 75-80 percent of the world now uses it..look around...is the world a better place? just legalize it and things will be better?
"Mary Jane" EARNED the name "Devil weed" they weren't joking. For those of you smoking it, I will repeat that: MARY JANE EARNED THE NAME "DEVIL WEED".
In case you have not thought about it...because you may be "spaced out" All of Congress and Senate are made up of ex "Flower Children" Their insane thoughts of mind control and Big Brother spying started when they " burned their first roach" now you are seeing the logical conclusion to the "devil weed" Caveat!
 Quoting: Daanl's Dream


Devil weed is a separate entity and deserves it's own name...

Jimson Weed

Notorious for its toxicity, Jimson Weed is a large flowering plant with the genus Datura and the family Solanaceae. It has long white trumpet-like flowers. Its seeds grow in pods and can be consumed (or its leaves can be smoked) to produce an extremely potent psychoactive effect.

[link to www.urbandictionary.com]
 Quoting: A Friend


thank you my friend, I am 67 years old. Been an herbalist since the age of 7. If I had meant the Jamestown weed, I would have said so. :)
 Quoting: Daanl's Dream


You might want to get checked for dementia then... You claim 75-80% of the world uses some form of cannabis? Your numbers are a gross misrepresentation of the facts... Don't believe me? Provide some evidence of your claim please.
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The problem is that everyone who uses this plant is delusional. Over 75-80 percent of the world now uses it..look around...is the world a better place? just legalize it and things will be better?
"Mary Jane" EARNED the name "Devil weed" they weren't joking. For those of you smoking it, I will repeat that: MARY JANE EARNED THE NAME "DEVIL WEED".
In case you have not thought about it...because you may be "spaced out" All of Congress and Senate are made up of ex "Flower Children" Their insane thoughts of mind control and Big Brother spying started when they " burned their first roach" now you are seeing the logical conclusion to the "devil weed" Caveat!
 Quoting: Daanl's Dream


Devil weed is a separate entity and deserves it's own name...

Jimson Weed

Notorious for its toxicity, Jimson Weed is a large flowering plant with the genus Datura and the family Solanaceae. It has long white trumpet-like flowers. Its seeds grow in pods and can be consumed (or its leaves can be smoked) to produce an extremely potent psychoactive effect.

[link to www.urbandictionary.com]
 Quoting: A Friend


thank you my friend, I am 67 years old. Been an herbalist since the age of 7. If I had meant the Jamestown weed, I would have said so. :)
 Quoting: Daanl's Dream


You might want to get checked for dementia then... You claim 75-80% of the world uses some form of cannabis? Your numbers are a gross misrepresentation of the facts... Don't believe me? Provide some evidence of your claim please.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


You might want to get checked for dementia then... Our conversation ended there. Light up another one. Only a chemist would understand the figures I would present your one man jury.
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Contemporary uses of cannabis are as a recreational or medicinal drug, and as part of religious or spiritual rites; the earliest recorded uses date from the 3rd millennium BC.[9] In 2004, the United Nations estimated that global consumption of cannabis indicated that approximately 4% of the adult world population (162 million people) used cannabis annually, and that approximately 0.6% (22.5 million) of people used cannabis daily.[10] In the United States, cannabis is the most commonly used illicit drug; 5.1% of Americans said they used marijuana in the past 30 days. In 1977, 38% of 12th graders reported using cannabis in the past month; in 2011, 23% of the same age group reported using cannabis in the same time span.[11] Since the early 20th century cannabis has been subject to legal restrictions with the possession, use, and sale of cannabis preparations containing psychoactive cannabinoids currently illegal in most countries of the world; the United Nations has said that cannabis is the most-used illicit drug in the world.[12][13]
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You might want to get checked for dementia then... Our conversation ended there. Light up another one. Only a chemist would understand the figures I would present your one man jury.
 Quoting: Daanl's Dream


The conversation ended because you cannot provide any evidence for your grossly incorrect assertion... See my post above this....

U.N. estimated use was at 4% in 2004.... You claim 75-80% now in 2013... You are uninformed....
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"Mary Jane" EARNED the name "Devil weed" they weren't joking. For those of you smoking it, I will repeat that: MARY JANE EARNED THE NAME "DEVIL WEED".
In case you have not thought about it...because you may be "spaced out" All of Congress and Senate are made up of ex "Flower Children" Their insane thoughts of mind control and Big Brother spying started when they " burned their first roach" now you are seeing the logical conclusion to the "devil weed" Caveat!
 Quoting: Daanl's Dream


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There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others.Harry J. Anslinger


Since my Dad smoked it during WWII, does that explain the Korean War?
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Thread: Easy way to make THC OIL for healty reason or .........
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yes, we know ^^, only problem i have had with it is , sometimes it makes my type of anxiety bad , but not usually. still smoke sometimes.
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When it makes your anxiety bad, you have found a type that you could choose to avoid if ample supply was available to you on the free market.

The problem is that there is not a free market or ample supply.
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Information overload thread. Sure, smoking weed is great and cures many things, to bad it used to make me cough up loads of thick, sticky phlegm. Not to mention the more than occasional bout of rage or anger a couple of days later after smoking it.
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But sure, i miss i say. Can't seem to write or think deep into the void without it, someone has taken away my imagination - no wait, that was me, it was me all along even when it wasn't, trying to imagine i actually needed it. I am more silly than ears with stains on them.
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Your ignorance shines brightly and your replies to this discussion show how truly uninformed you are about this subject matter.... Keep sucking the government's teet, they know what's best for you!

Have a good day I'm done viewing this thread.

byekitty
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Right, only your personal emotional experience is valid. Only your viewpoint is valid.

I see your byekitty and raise you a GOOD DAY, SIR.

I said good day.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Wow man, you are truly uninformed about everything Cannabis related. Save face and just evacuate thread, you're making yourself look like an idiot.
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Your ignorance shines brightly and your replies to this discussion show how truly uninformed you are about this subject matter.... Keep sucking the government's teet, they know what's best for you!

Have a good day I'm done viewing this thread.

byekitty
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Right, only your personal emotional experience is valid. Only your viewpoint is valid.

I see your byekitty and raise you a GOOD DAY, SIR.

I said good day.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Wow man, you are truly uninformed about everything Cannabis related. Save face and just evacuate thread, you're making yourself look like an idiot.
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Whenever I think I'm done, someone like you reels me back in.

I don't need to "Save Face" because I only appear to be wrong to people like you. That's not a loss of face in my book.
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Private interest groups & corporations dictate the policies of this country and the pharmaceutical company, the private prison industry, and the alcohol industry have the politicians in their pockets and DO NOT want to see cannabis legalized and provided to Americans who wish to use it either recreationally or for medicinal applications... They don't care about the anti-cancer effects nor any of the other health benefits that a human being could gain from having access to it..... All they care about in their MONEY....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


I would never argue against anything in this portion of your statement.

Well, except that Big Tobacco somehow allowed Chantix to hit the market. What happened there, did Big Tobacco fall asleep at the wheel? Or Did Rob Reiner cough up ten dollars to the right senator to get this med passed through?

I'm not sure how it works, but Chantix would be one example as an honest-to-goodness Pharma product that does what it says with virtually no side-effects. Not only can I direct you to proof of this without calling you a troll or lazy, I can ALSO provide personal anecdotal evidence along with my wife's testimony.
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So, what pharma company you working for? People like you make me fucking sick. You think we should avoid marijuana like the plague because big gov says so. But It's ok to take all these pharma pills that actually kill more people that pot. And to say Chantix has virtually no side effects is beyond fucking retarded. Where's your proof of that retarded statement? Here's a medical study for you, big gov now says to cure cancer you should unload a shotgun in your forehead. So, why don't you do us all a favor and try out this new cure.
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I would never argue against anything in this portion of your statement.

Well, except that Big Tobacco somehow allowed Chantix to hit the market. What happened there, did Big Tobacco fall asleep at the wheel? Or Did Rob Reiner cough up ten dollars to the right senator to get this med passed through?

I'm not sure how it works, but Chantix would be one example as an honest-to-goodness Pharma product that does what it says with virtually no side-effects. Not only can I direct you to proof of this without calling you a troll or lazy, I can ALSO provide personal anecdotal evidence along with my wife's testimony.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


So, what pharma company you working for? People like you make me fucking sick. You think we should avoid marijuana like the plague because big gov says so. But It's ok to take all these pharma pills that actually kill more people that pot. And to say Chantix has virtually no side effects is beyond fucking retarded. Where's your proof of that retarded statement? Here's a medical study for you, big gov now says to cure cancer you should unload a shotgun in your forehead. So, why don't you do us all a favor and try out this new cure.
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He's a shill and a rather shitty one at that.

He says 'virtually no side effects' for taking Chantix.

lmao

[link to www.drugs.com]
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Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction while taking varenicline (the active ingredient contained in Chantix) hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat.

Stop using this medication and call your doctor at once if you have any mood or behavior changes, confusion, anxiety, panic attacks, hallucinations, extreme fear, or if you feel impulsive, agitated, aggressive, restless, hostile, depressed, hyperactive (mentally or physically), or have thoughts about suicide or hurting yourself.

Your family or other caregivers should also be alert to changes in your mood or behavior.

Call your doctor at once if you have any of these other serious side effects:

-chest pain or pressure, tight feeling in your neck or jaw, pain spreading to your arm or shoulder, vomiting, sweating, general ill feeling;
-feeling light-headed or short of breath;
-sudden numbness or weakness, especially on one side of the body;
-sudden severe headache, confusion, problems with vision, speech, or balance;
-easy bruising, unusual bleeding, blood in your urine or stools, coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds;
-fever, sore throat, and headache with a severe blistering, peeling, and red skin rash; or the first sign of any blistering type of skin rash, no matter how mild.

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Psychiatric side effects have included insomnia (19%), abnormal dreams (9% to 13%), sleep disorder (2%), and nightmare (2%).Anxiety, depression, emotional disorder, irritability, restlessness, aggression, agitation, disorientation, dissociation, decreased libido, mood swings, abnormal thinking, bradyphrenia, euphoric mood, hallucination, psychotic disorder, suicidal ideation, and erratic behavior have also been reported. Depressed mood, agitation, changes in behavior, and suicide have been reported during postmarketing experience. At least one case of varenicline-induced manic episode has also been reported, in addition to a case of exacerbation of schizophrenia.

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Other side effects have included tinnitus, vertigo, deafness, Meniere's disease, chest pain, influenza-like symptoms, edema, thirst, chest discomfort, chills, pyrexia, increased muscle enzyme, and hot flash. At least one case of feeling abnormal has been reported, in addition to a case of elevated aspartate aminotransferase, two cases of elevated alanine aminotransferase, and one case of elevated blood bilirubin.


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Many more side effects listed at the link above....
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yes, we know ^^, only problem i have had with it is , sometimes it makes my type of anxiety bad , but not usually. still smoke sometimes.
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Hey all that means is that you need to find your type, Indica or sativa then spread from there to find something that suits you. Thats the beauty of it, theres something right for everyone:D
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Something I wish to share... Recently quit smoking cannabis and now I only vape about two weeks now... Thing is it no longer appears to matter what strain I vape, they all produce the same effects all the time and as an added incentive, I'm using about 25% less product as I was before. Both my lungs & pocketbook show an improvement with vaping over combustion cannabis.
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Really eh? ive been hesitent to buy a vape but i think i may just invest if the overall spending is going down
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I am a bad boy, for i have a Volcano, but still smoke it.
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Your ignorance shines brightly and your replies to this discussion show how truly uninformed you are about this subject matter.... Keep sucking the government's teet, they know what's best for you!

Have a good day I'm done viewing this thread.

byekitty
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Right, only your personal emotional experience is valid. Only your viewpoint is valid.

I see your byekitty and raise you a GOOD DAY, SIR.

I said good day.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Wow man, you are truly uninformed about everything Cannabis related. Save face and just evacuate thread, you're making yourself look like an idiot.
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Whenever I think I'm done, someone like you reels me back in.

I don't need to "Save Face" because I only appear to be wrong to people like you. That's not a loss of face in my book.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Stick around till some friendly pothead from Israel or else curse your bones and flesh.

Do you think it is just a joke? Check the history for facts.
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The US govt has taken the stand against marijuana because the majority of voters are against it, and to procure their votes, they wouldnt decriminalise it.

However, HOLLYWOOD PROPAGANDA is all about smoking the green as the best thing around; the influences of movies motivate people to smoke weed, so they makes me wonder about the safety of cannibis. I believe the illuminasty control the films industry and they want young people to smoke, therefore something must be wrong there. and why did Dr Mengale, WW2 Zazi doctor, use marijuana in mind control experiements with the Jews in the concentration camps? Is it a catalyst for mind control?

The supporters of marijuana here are probably all adicts, smart addicts, nevertheless addcits all the same and therefore in denial about their drug of choice.

IMHO, bring back smack! pure herion admistered properly is tonnes better than mind raping, aspiration numbing marijuana.
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The US govt has taken the stand against marijuana because the majority of voters are against it, and to procure their votes, they wouldnt decriminalise it.

However, HOLLYWOOD PROPAGANDA is all about smoking the green as the best thing around; the influences of movies motivate people to smoke weed, so they makes me wonder about the safety of cannibis. I believe the illuminasty control the films industry and they want young people to smoke, therefore something must be wrong there. and why did Dr Mengale, WW2 Zazi doctor, use marijuana in mind control experiements with the Jews in the concentration camps? Is it a catalyst for mind control?

The supporters of marijuana here are probably all adicts, smart addicts, nevertheless addcits all the same and therefore in denial about their drug of choice.

IMHO, bring back smack! pure herion admistered properly is tonnes better than mind raping, aspiration numbing marijuana.
 Quoting: James 16066879


You are an intentional liar!
And wait to see what you are in denial about!...

So, cannabis, unlike majority of 'mind-altering' things, had been deemed not as useless in mind control, more over, it gives the opposite of what the monsters intended.

almost forgot to say resounding FUCK YOU, SWINE!,---you know, I am stoned.

Fuck you!
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RIGHT ON OP, BUT THEY HATE THE TRUTH, DON'T THEY?!!
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Information overload thread. Sure, smoking weed is great and cures many things, to bad it used to make me cough up loads of thick, sticky phlegm. Not to mention the more than occasional bout of rage or anger a couple of days later after smoking it.
 Quoting: CaptiveR 16504523


sORRY DUDE, BUT i LIVED IN BRITAIN AND THEY HAD THE WORST WEEDIN THE WHOLE WOLRLD, I HAD TO HAVE MY BOY MAIL ME SOME CRAPPY MEXICAN WEED EVERY FEW DAYS...BACK THEN, IF YOU WERE LUCKY, YOU MIGHT FIND A LITTLE HASH, BUT NOBODY IN THE UK OF THE 80'S KNEW HOW TO GROW WEED, OR FIND A DECENT CONNECTION
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The US govt has taken the stand against marijuana because the majority of voters are against it, and to procure their votes, they wouldnt decriminalise it.

However, HOLLYWOOD PROPAGANDA is all about smoking the green as the best thing around; the influences of movies motivate people to smoke weed, so they makes me wonder about the safety of cannibis. I believe the illuminasty control the films industry and they want young people to smoke, therefore something must be wrong there. and why did Dr Mengale, WW2 Zazi doctor, use marijuana in mind control experiements with the Jews in the concentration camps? Is it a catalyst for mind control?

The supporters of marijuana here are probably all adicts, smart addicts, nevertheless addcits all the same and therefore in denial about their drug of choice.

IMHO, bring back smack! pure herion admistered properly is tonnes better than mind raping, aspiration numbing marijuana.
 Quoting: James 16066879


Its really, really easy to understand why fed keeps pot illegal yet promote the hell out of it with Hollywood. By promoting it and making people think it's ok, people will smoke it thinking it's ok, which it is btw. Now they have all these people smoking pot that cops can arrest and generate revenue/supply slaves for the prison corp.
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you morons know it is only illegal to suppress competition in the many, many areas of commerce that hemp is applicable as a cheap, effective alternative.

it's not illegal cause it's "bad" or euphoria is devilish... everyone should be forced to smoke before they speak on the subject. i guarantee those who have never smoked would be shocked at what little effect it actually has. it makes you a little tired, a little hungry, and a little happy. who the fuck is against eating, sleeping, and happiness?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14751993


I have the benefit of having smoked Marijuana in the mid 80's and again in the mid 90's and one time in the mid naughts.

I can tell you that the marijuana you described existed in the mid 80's, but by the mid 90's Marijuana was jacked up beyond recognition.

IN the Naughts, I didn't have that much but just a little bit was the same as a lot of the 90s weed.

They are taking extract of thc and concentrating it and adding it back into the bag like they do legally with Salvia.

It is uncomfortable, debilitating, anti-social and addictive. Don't tell me it isn't, I will show you 10 people I know personally who can't get off it.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


To be honest, your whole post was entirely subjective. You've projected your personal experiences onto the plant as justification that marijuana has no use.

I understand, as yo do, that marijuana doesn't treat everyone the same. Actually, it's no wonder with the thousands of variations of strains (many of which are cultivated for unique psychoactive and physical effects alone) that many people can experience marijuana very differently from others. This isn't even taking into account one's personal disposition or condition(s) which may interact negatively with the effect of marijuana.

Ultimately, some greatly benefit from its qualities, including those who have medical issues or those who are purely enjoying it for recreational purposes. Others try it because it's something they get into and then phase away from.

As for the bolded sentences. Your statement of higher concentrations of extract being put into marijuana...."since the 90s"....is One Hundred Percent Complete Bullshit. Actually, that's pretty laughable that you thought you could get away from saying something so stupid. And the fact that you compared it to Salvia extraction is even more stupid. 5 leaves of salvia=1 gram of plant material, 5 times more potent. 20 leaves=1 gram, 20 times more powerful.

Now if you're going to logically compare the two methods, then we have to assume they are similar. Are you saying five buds get crushed up and sprinkled onto some amount of fresh marijuana and actually get sold without raising an eyebrow? Exactly what are your standards for comparing the two, I wonder if you can help me understand your bullshit a little bit better.
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Haha, just keeping looking for your scientific method. I'm sure mainstream science will be right out with it. Meanwhile, ignore the case studies where people are cured with cannabis and other natural means. You're lost man, give up.
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So, you're saying I won't find proof via scientific method?

You're saying Mainstream science will not conduct research?

But, you say I ignore case studies...are these scientific case studies? But you just said I shouldn't expect any, so what kind of case studies are these? Who conducts them and with what methods?

Is this Cheech and Chong in a basement blowing weed smoke into their cancer cats?

*IM* lost? You're listening to Cheech and Chong and calling it "Case Studies."
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Another completely baseless ad hominem insult?

For someone so attached to what you can see and read with your eyes (seemingly), why have you ignored past posts including scientific studies which should have garnered your attention? You're so thirsty for evidence or support for peoples' claims yet you deny them when presented?

On top of that, you insert "Cheech and Chong" inappropriately into the mouths of those who disagree with you. You insist that everyone who smoke marijuana or supports marijuana rights are purely lazy and unmotivated stoners. You think people who have severe medical illnesses just use marijuana to get high. You ignore the very real benefits of the plant (perhaps because propaganda sits too well with you, or you want to conform to your perception of what's "normal") and refuse to acknowledge anything that you don't want to. Your mentality towards marijuana and it's relationship with people is not in anyway dictated by science as you would like people to believe. How completely ignorant and judgmental.
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Funny how you conveniently avoided these posts. I know I've been away from this thread but I at least thought you as a seemingly logical person would respond to these logical comments. If you ever return to this thread, can I get that courtesy from you?
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Its really, really easy to understand why fed keeps pot illegal yet promote the hell out of it with Hollywood. By promoting it and making people think it's ok, people will smoke it thinking it's ok, which it is btw. Now they have all these people smoking pot that cops can arrest and generate revenue/supply slaves for the prison corp.
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you morons know it is only illegal to suppress competition in the many, many areas of commerce that hemp is applicable as a cheap, effective alternative.

it's not illegal cause it's "bad" or euphoria is devilish... everyone should be forced to smoke before they speak on the subject. i guarantee those who have never smoked would be shocked at what little effect it actually has. it makes you a little tired, a little hungry, and a little happy. who the fuck is against eating, sleeping, and happiness?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14751993


I have the benefit of having smoked Marijuana in the mid 80's and again in the mid 90's and one time in the mid naughts.

I can tell you that the marijuana you described existed in the mid 80's, but by the mid 90's Marijuana was jacked up beyond recognition.

IN the Naughts, I didn't have that much but just a little bit was the same as a lot of the 90s weed.

They are taking extract of thc and concentrating it and adding it back into the bag like they do legally with Salvia.

It is uncomfortable, debilitating, anti-social and addictive. Don't tell me it isn't, I will show you 10 people I know personally who can't get off it.
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


To be honest, your whole post was entirely subjective. You've projected your personal experiences onto the plant as justification that marijuana has no use.

I understand, as yo do, that marijuana doesn't treat everyone the same. Actually, it's no wonder with the thousands of variations of strains (many of which are cultivated for unique psychoactive and physical effects alone) that many people can experience marijuana very differently from others. This isn't even taking into account one's personal disposition or condition(s) which may interact negatively with the effect of marijuana.

Ultimately, some greatly benefit from its qualities, including those who have medical issues or those who are purely enjoying it for recreational purposes. Others try it because it's something they get into and then phase away from.

As for the bolded sentences. Your statement of higher concentrations of extract being put into marijuana...."since the 90s"....is One Hundred Percent Complete Bullshit. Actually, that's pretty laughable that you thought you could get away from saying something so stupid. And the fact that you compared it to Salvia extraction is even more stupid. 5 leaves of salvia=1 gram of plant material, 5 times more potent. 20 leaves=1 gram, 20 times more powerful.

Now if you're going to logically compare the two methods, then we have to assume they are similar. Are you saying five buds get crushed up and sprinkled onto some amount of fresh marijuana and actually get sold without raising an eyebrow? Exactly what are your standards for comparing the two, I wonder if you can help me understand your bullshit a little bit better.
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Haha, just keeping looking for your scientific method. I'm sure mainstream science will be right out with it. Meanwhile, ignore the case studies where people are cured with cannabis and other natural means. You're lost man, give up.
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So, you're saying I won't find proof via scientific method?

You're saying Mainstream science will not conduct research?

But, you say I ignore case studies...are these scientific case studies? But you just said I shouldn't expect any, so what kind of case studies are these? Who conducts them and with what methods?

Is this Cheech and Chong in a basement blowing weed smoke into their cancer cats?

*IM* lost? You're listening to Cheech and Chong and calling it "Case Studies."
 Quoting: Holy_Diver


Another completely baseless ad hominem insult?

For someone so attached to what you can see and read with your eyes (seemingly), why have you ignored past posts including scientific studies which should have garnered your attention? You're so thirsty for evidence or support for peoples' claims yet you deny them when presented?

On top of that, you insert "Cheech and Chong" inappropriately into the mouths of those who disagree with you. You insist that everyone who smoke marijuana or supports marijuana rights are purely lazy and unmotivated stoners. You think people who have severe medical illnesses just use marijuana to get high. You ignore the very real benefits of the plant (perhaps because propaganda sits too well with you, or you want to conform to your perception of what's "normal") and refuse to acknowledge anything that you don't want to. Your mentality towards marijuana and it's relationship with people is not in anyway dictated by science as you would like people to believe. How completely ignorant and judgmental.
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Funny how you conveniently avoided these posts. I know I've been away from this thread but I at least thought you as a seemingly logical person would respond to these logical comments. If you ever return to this thread, can I get that courtesy from you?
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He will not give you any reasonable response.

Besides, he knows that he has no real argument, just his enmity and the task shill.
He must be wonking right now to make himself feel better :)
after his shameful defeat.
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Its really, really easy to understand why fed keeps pot illegal yet promote the hell out of it with Hollywood. By promoting it and making people think it's ok, people will smoke it thinking it's ok, which it is btw. Now they have all these people smoking pot that cops can arrest and generate revenue/supply slaves for the prison corp.
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That is true too!!!
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The problem is that everyone who uses this plant is delusional. Over 75-80 percent of the world now uses it..look around...is the world a better place? just legalize it and things will be better?
"Mary Jane" EARNED the name "Devil weed" they weren't joking. For those of you smoking it, I will repeat that: MARY JANE EARNED THE NAME "DEVIL WEED".
In case you have not thought about it...because you may be "spaced out" All of Congress and Senate are made up of ex "Flower Children" Their insane thoughts of mind control and Big Brother spying started when they " burned their first roach" now you are seeing the logical conclusion to the "devil weed" Caveat!
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There is no f-in way 75-80% of the worlds population uses cannabis.
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The problem is that everyone who uses this plant is delusional. Over 75-80 percent of the world now uses it..look around...is the world a better place? just legalize it and things will be better?
"Mary Jane" EARNED the name "Devil weed" they weren't joking. For those of you smoking it, I will repeat that: MARY JANE EARNED THE NAME "DEVIL WEED".
In case you have not thought about it...because you may be "spaced out" All of Congress and Senate are made up of ex "Flower Children" Their insane thoughts of mind control and Big Brother spying started when they " burned their first roach" now you are seeing the logical conclusion to the "devil weed" Caveat!
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Holy shit, seriously? If you honestly can not conceive of the reason marijuana has been demonized despite heavy propaganda in the 1920's, including the blatant racism that was tied to it among other ludicrous labels and statements, there is really no hope for you a human being capable of critical thinking. Keep your judgements and stereotypes to yourself, when you want to look at history with open eyes, then we can talk.
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Any more shills out there want to provide me with some intellectual delight by way of making totally baseless claims, for which I can then refute with common sense? Let's keep this thread alive.
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proven to cure cancer.
 Quoting: Rtruth


Where is this study and what medical journal has it been published in?

Who proved it, when?

I would like details please. I haven't heard about this amazing, globally important medical breakthrough. Seems like it would've been headline news for months, with nobel peace prizes handed out and time magazine covers this sort of thing.
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you are plain stupid, shill





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