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is tilapia GMO fish? bad for you? i thought aquaponics could heal world hunger? wtf

 
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is tilapia GMO fish? bad for you? i thought aquaponics could heal world hunger? wtf
someone debunk the bs that tilapia is gmo and bad for you

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Re: is tilapia GMO fish? bad for you? i thought aquaponics could heal world hunger? wtf
Some of it is modified so that they turn out to be all male. They do this because when they reproduce the female picks up the eggs in her mouth until the babies are ready to be released. This is called mouth brooding, during this process the female stops eating. In the aquaculture industry they don't want any malnourished females.

Not all are GMO, you have to get pure strain.

I'm against the use of GMO as well, I could understand it if we were doing more "noble" things with the technology, but sadly it seems there is always a sinister goal. My favorite example is "terminator seed".

The other thing is that they (the health industry) claims that they contain the wrong balance of fats, and that it would lead to high cholesterol. To me this is just like when it was claimed that avocados, or eggs were said to be terrible for you. Or most recently in my mind, the "need" to ban coconut oil, to protect citizens from their food.

But all of this does come from the FDA, so it shouldn't surprise anyone. I mean they approve the use of the GMO's and countless toxic food additives, then try to tell us the real food is bad.
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Re: is tilapia GMO fish? bad for you? i thought aquaponics could heal world hunger? wtf
I've even read in some of the AP forums, that in a tank with all male GMO fish, somehow some of them turned back to female and reproduced. So to me it's really just pointless, and just a scam to keep you from having your own reproducing colony.

It all reminds me of jeff goldblooms part in jurassic park, "nature will find a way".
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“Many farmers have switched to feces and have stopped using commercial feed,” he says.
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Video of fish farm with bass and tilapia. Tilapia and carp used to clean the waste water from the better fish.
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in australia we get a $150,000 on the spot fine just for haveing a single Tilapia fish dead or alive!
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Re: is tilapia GMO fish? bad for you? i thought aquaponics could heal world hunger? wtf
someone debunk the bs that tilapia is gmo and bad for you

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LOL, hahahahah, LOL. Are you kidding me? Gulf of Mexico tilapia is wild catch. They live in the gulf, swim where they want, do what they want, until some deep water fisherman hauls them in.

Do not purchase tilapia from any source other than fresh catch wild Gulf tilapia.
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in australia we get a $150,000 on the spot fine just for haveing a single Tilapia fish dead or alive!
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...that's because you let your Commie government turn you into serfs.
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Re: is tilapia GMO fish? bad for you? i thought aquaponics could heal world hunger? wtf
in australia we get a $150,000 on the spot fine just for haveing a single Tilapia fish dead or alive!
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Damn, that's is crazy. It's wonderful, no fishy smell, clean to the taste, feels good in the mouth. All you want in a fish meal.

Maybe you could get some store in the US to freeze dry it and send it to you. $4.99 a lb.
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Excerpt from excellent New York Times article about tilapia pros/cons:

"Nutritional Concerns

For doctors, the debate has centered more on tilapia’s nutritional benefits, or lack thereof. Like all fish, tilapia is a good source of protein, with few of the unhealthy saturated fats in red meats. But unlike most other fish, tilapia contains relatively little of the fish oils that medical research has shown assist brain development and protect against heart disease, stroke and abnormal heart rhythms: a pair of omega-3 fatty acids.

“When people talk about the need to eat more fish, they are using that as a metaphor for fish oil, DHA and EPA,” said Edgar R. Miller III, associate professor of medicine and epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. “So what do we do about the fact that tilapia and catfish, which are farm raised, have very low levels of these compounds?”

While a portion of tilapia has 135 milligrams of omega-3 fatty acids, a portion of salmon has over 2,000 milligrams. And farmed tilapia may have even less than wild tilapia because fish acquire omega-3s by eating aquatic plants and other fish. “They are what they eat,” Dr. Bridson said.

In farmed tilapia, raised largely on corn and soy, omega-3 levels depend on how much fish meal or fish oil the farm’s breeders mix in. While most fish species need a good helping of these fatty acids to grow, herbivorous tilapia grow decently with little or none. And there are compelling reasons to skimp on fish meal or oil additives: they are costly and create more pollution."

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Excerpt from excellent New York Times article about tilapia pros/cons:

"Nutritional Concerns

For doctors, the debate has centered more on tilapia’s nutritional benefits, or lack thereof. Like all fish, tilapia is a good source of protein, with few of the unhealthy saturated fats in red meats. But unlike most other fish, tilapia contains relatively little of the fish oils that medical research has shown assist brain development and protect against heart disease, stroke and abnormal heart rhythms: a pair of omega-3 fatty acids.

“When people talk about the need to eat more fish, they are using that as a metaphor for fish oil, DHA and EPA,” said Edgar R. Miller III, associate professor of medicine and epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. “So what do we do about the fact that tilapia and catfish, which are farm raised, have very low levels of these compounds?”

While a portion of tilapia has 135 milligrams of omega-3 fatty acids, a portion of salmon has over 2,000 milligrams. And farmed tilapia may have even less than wild tilapia because fish acquire omega-3s by eating aquatic plants and other fish. “They are what they eat,” Dr. Bridson said.

In farmed tilapia, raised largely on corn and soy, omega-3 levels depend on how much fish meal or fish oil the farm’s breeders mix in. While most fish species need a good helping of these fatty acids to grow, herbivorous tilapia grow decently with little or none. And there are compelling reasons to skimp on fish meal or oil additives: they are costly and create more pollution."

Read the full article here:

[link to www.nytimes.com]
 Quoting: HypnoSlaveDoll


That article is PURE bullshit.

Watch this.....and you will NEVER eat it again.

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Re: is tilapia GMO fish? bad for you? i thought aquaponics could heal world hunger? wtf
in australia we get a $150,000 on the spot fine just for haveing a single Tilapia fish dead or alive!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4901221


Damn, that's is crazy. It's wonderful, no fishy smell, clean to the taste, feels good in the mouth. All you want in a fish meal.

Maybe you could get some store in the US to freeze dry it and send it to you. $4.99 a lb.
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thanks but didnt you hear me, you get fined if you are found with any tilapia fish DEAD or alive! i dont know if that includes traces of it but i dont wont to risk it.
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Re: is tilapia GMO fish? bad for you? i thought aquaponics could heal world hunger? wtf
Best fish to eat is sardines.

They are sustainable, I don't believe they are widely farmed, they are low on the food chain and mostly eat plankton keeping their mercury levels very low, and they are great sources of the fatty acids you want.
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Re: is tilapia GMO fish? bad for you? i thought aquaponics could heal world hunger? wtf
Some of it is modified so that they turn out to be all male. They do this because when they reproduce the female picks up the eggs in her mouth until the babies are ready to be released. This is called mouth brooding, during this process the female stops eating. In the aquaculture industry they don't want any malnourished females.

Not all are GMO, you have to get pure strain.

I'm against the use of GMO as well, I could understand it if we were doing more "noble" things with the technology, but sadly it seems there is always a sinister goal. My favorite example is "terminator seed".

The other thing is that they (the health industry) claims that they contain the wrong balance of fats, and that it would lead to high cholesterol. To me this is just like when it was claimed that avocados, or eggs were said to be terrible for you. Or most recently in my mind, the "need" to ban coconut oil, to protect citizens from their food.

But all of this does come from the FDA, so it shouldn't surprise anyone. I mean they approve the use of the GMO's and countless toxic food additives, then try to tell us the real food is bad.
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Female tilapia only forgo eating for 7-12 days while holding eggs and fry, they are not malnourished.



Your confusing hormone treatment and selective breeding with GM.

They treat tilapia fry with hormones, in order to have a predominate male population, because they grow to a larger size. This has nothing to do with modifying their genes.

Tilapia have been selectively bred for thousands of years in order to get the specific traits necessary for the fish to thrive in a certain climate, again nothing to do with present day idea of modifying genes.

As far as what they are fed, they are no different than any other food. If you feed livestock gm feed, "if they live" they would not be as nutrient as livestock fed and naturally rich diet. Same thing with vegetables fed synthetic fertilizers from a bag, compared to natural "poop" fertilizers.

Not many people complain about people feeding their vegetables and fruit cow and chicken shit. Most times it will cost you more.
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Re: is tilapia GMO fish? bad for you? i thought aquaponics could heal world hunger? wtf
after reading this thread, im still confused as to whether tilapia is gmo and not healthy for people?

ops question has not been answered, just conflicting replies and info from all over the place





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