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OPPT Personal Testament #1

 
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Okay, here's my bajillion centses (in silver, no less):

OPPT isn't far off from NESARA, and it seems to need the approval of something "higher" than us to come to fruition. Heather Tucci-Jarraf, the instigator of the whole movement, calls it "Absolute Data," and no one REALLY knows what that means.

She doesn't even seem to know what it means.

Except that it will happen and we will all be enlightened to the truth, and then their CVACS (creation's value asset centers) can come to life and we'll all be connected and given whatever we need (by source) whenever we need it. We can be free to create, as we were created to do, and beholden to nothing but our own free will and common law.

The concept that YOU ARE FREE is the best thing about the movement, because you are, if you can let yourself die before you die (i.e. give your ego a safe home to where it's no longer needed in this world and live strictly in the now). The best messages of the whole thing are in the spiritual messages.

The rest of it? The money and the courtesy notices and the legal stuff? It's all a confusing, seemingly confused bunch of confusion that no one really understands.

Its success is dependent on a "shift into 5D," and I think we've all heard that before.

I'm not saying it can't happen or won't happen. I'm just saying it's not happening at this moment, so it's not real.

If you fell for NESARA, if you fell for Nancy Lieder, if you've fallen for any of the "new age promises" of some savior (or doom) situation coming and rescuing us all, then you probably won't want to fall for this. Unless you want a second, fourth, or twenty-eighth helping of disappointment.

They're taking the "we are the ones we've been waiting for" one step too far into fiction, into dependence on some huge otherworldly shift or intervention. Heather talks a lot about aliens and channeling and ascended masters. And that should be enough to give you pause as to whether or not this has any application in our legal system today. Because it does not.

And UNLESS that supposed shift/ascension/intervention happens, we're still dealing with the same old crap in the same old mindset with the same old arguments from the same old people who will fight to the death to see this way of life - the one that profits the few at the expense of the many - preserved.

(That said, I listened to half of this guy's video last night and I really liked what I heard. He had his finger on the pulse of true reality in regards to us being source experiencing itself. However, people who KNOW this and can BE this without ego interfering are still far too few to matter. As far as I can see, we're still pretty far away from the 100th monkey here.)

And even though I just said all of that, it would be a most delightful, amazing thing if OPPT is true. So I hope it is. But I won't be spreading the word ... quite yet.
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I've seen the OPPT mentioned here several times and tonight I thought that I'd find out what is going on.

I did some research and found this -

[link to www.youtube.com]

This spelled out in plain straight forward language what the hell is going on and how it effects me.

I can't wait to see how this unfolds! If there is truth to it, it's no wonder so many on this thread want to discredit it! The corporate power structure is bust! People just don't realize it yet.

That video puts it out there in logical, believable language. I am willing to hear an opposing voice, but I want to hear "why" they are frauds. Not just some more name calling. I think I may have just been exposed to real paradigm changing news!
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Agree Deej, this is a good summary, I read the text of this somewhere already but it helped to hear/read it again.
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Let me first just state: I am not watching an hour and 30 minutes of this crap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904
I agree but i will watch some of it.

Secondly, I work in the legal apparatus of this country (America). I won't say where, but suffice it to say I work in the legal sector.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904
Can you answer these questions. Is the legal system fair? Can the legal system be fixed? Does the legal system align itself to foreign people? Can you stop all the B/S in the legal system?

I assume you will not answer so I will for you. Your answer to all questions will be no.Now insert OPPT where legal system is and all answers are now yes.

Let me just say this: the strength of a legal argument is ONLY measured by its ability to succeed in court. That is, a legal argument does NOTHING for you if it doesn't produce results for you where it matters most: your own court or administrative hearing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904
Is a recommendation a legal argument or a mandate to the Judge. You are correct "a legal argument does NOTHING for you" when recommendations are involved and OPPT will give people their "own court or administrative hearing".

With that having been said, these OPPT people are full of shit. DON'T try to file a claim or argument using materials they have given you. It will FAIL wherever you try to file it, and will result in such a headache for the people who process your claim that they will THROW THE BOOK AT YOU when it comes time to fine or sentence you. And really, I don't even blame them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904
It never hurts to try with that having been said you have nothing to lose. Also these forms should help as long as you do not damage someone else.

I myself have never had to deal with all their UCC claims (which is, by the way, taught in law school and tested on the bar exam - the ACTUAL, REAL parts of the UCC that are used in the real world and not just in the minds of these nutcases), but friends of mine have. You people give them a real headache because NOTHING you say makes sense as a form of legal argument that is recognized or accepted by any judicial system in these United States.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904


But, nevertheless, people in the legal system HAVE to go over your claims and dismiss them one by one all the same. But oh, my friends, if you force them to go down that long road of dismissing every one of your frivolous claims (and they will, rest assured), you will have angry judges, administrators, and judicial personnel lined up against you by the time the actual hearing date is scheduled. Is that what you want? Is your legal mumbo-jumbo protest really worth that to you? Hopefully not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904


Here's my advice: get a lawyer and avoid being SCAMMED. Yes, you heard me: avoid being scammed. These people, when they aren't rambling for an hour and a half, probably tell you a pretty nice story, don't they? That the laws don't apply to you? That America owes you money in trust to which you're entitled?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904
OPPT is trying to make laws apply and put money in every ones pocket including yours.

It's a scam. Eventually, these people ask you for your money - to provide you UCC forms, no less! (and which are freely available online). Don't buy into this bogus. These people are snake-oil salesmen, and don't have anything of value to provide you. Unless you just want to flip the judge off, don't buy into this bogus (and of course, flipping a judge off is FREE and is bound to offend a judge and his/her clerks much less than approaching the legal system this way).
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All forms are free to download.
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^^^^^^^^^Good Response AC4245
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This whole OPPT thing reminds me of Ben Fulford's White Dragon Ninjas who were going to arrest all the bankers and bring us back to a world of peace and harmony.

I think it has gotten traction more as a wish fulfillment meme than an actual courtworthy legal strategy.

I certianly wouldn't have the balls to try it in front of a judge though...
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This whole OPPT thing reminds me of Ben Fulford's White Dragon Ninjas who were going to arrest all the bankers and bring us back to a world of peace and harmony.

I think it has gotten traction more as a wish fulfillment meme than an actual courtworthy legal strategy.

I certianly wouldn't have the balls to try it in front of a judge though...
 Quoting: Emancipated Edenic Wish Meme 31855582


I was thinking, what if Judges and attorneys, fed up with the system started to get on board. It would have to be people outside the mainstream legal channels but I know of a couple who are looking into these matters, they are disgusted by the old system.
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When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me
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Let me first just state: I am not watching an hour and 30 minutes of this crap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904
I agree but i will watch some of it.

Secondly, I work in the legal apparatus of this country (America). I won't say where, but suffice it to say I work in the legal sector.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904
Can you answer these questions. Is the legal system fair? Can the legal system be fixed? Does the legal system align itself to foreign people? Can you stop all the B/S in the legal system?

I assume you will not answer so I will for you. Your answer to all questions will be no.Now insert OPPT where legal system is and all answers are now yes.

Let me just say this: the strength of a legal argument is ONLY measured by its ability to succeed in court. That is, a legal argument does NOTHING for you if it doesn't produce results for you where it matters most: your own court or administrative hearing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904
Is a recommendation a legal argument or a mandate to the Judge. You are correct "a legal argument does NOTHING for you" when recommendations are involved and OPPT will give people their "own court or administrative hearing".

With that having been said, these OPPT people are full of shit. DON'T try to file a claim or argument using materials they have given you. It will FAIL wherever you try to file it, and will result in such a headache for the people who process your claim that they will THROW THE BOOK AT YOU when it comes time to fine or sentence you. And really, I don't even blame them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904
It never hurts to try with that having been said you have nothing to lose. Also these forms should help as long as you do not damage someone else.

I myself have never had to deal with all their UCC claims (which is, by the way, taught in law school and tested on the bar exam - the ACTUAL, REAL parts of the UCC that are used in the real world and not just in the minds of these nutcases), but friends of mine have. You people give them a real headache because NOTHING you say makes sense as a form of legal argument that is recognized or accepted by any judicial system in these United States.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904


But, nevertheless, people in the legal system HAVE to go over your claims and dismiss them one by one all the same. But oh, my friends, if you force them to go down that long road of dismissing every one of your frivolous claims (and they will, rest assured), you will have angry judges, administrators, and judicial personnel lined up against you by the time the actual hearing date is scheduled. Is that what you want? Is your legal mumbo-jumbo protest really worth that to you? Hopefully not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904


Here's my advice: get a lawyer and avoid being SCAMMED. Yes, you heard me: avoid being scammed. These people, when they aren't rambling for an hour and a half, probably tell you a pretty nice story, don't they? That the laws don't apply to you? That America owes you money in trust to which you're entitled?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904
OPPT is trying to make laws apply and put money in every ones pocket including yours.

It's a scam. Eventually, these people ask you for your money - to provide you UCC forms, no less! (and which are freely available online). Don't buy into this bogus. These people are snake-oil salesmen, and don't have anything of value to provide you. Unless you just want to flip the judge off, don't buy into this bogus (and of course, flipping a judge off is FREE and is bound to offend a judge and his/her clerks much less than approaching the legal system this way).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904
All forms are free to download.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29704245


You are WRONG to assume I would not respond. :)

Nevertheless, there's not much to which to respond.

The legal system is in complete disarray. You're right about that, and it doesn't take a Clarence Darrow to figure that out. It's dysfunctional from top to bottom. The criminal justice system no longer serves the People. It incarcerates them for dubious matters which do not affect the majority of people (think drug crimes).

The civil justice system is in similar shambles. It is far too expensive for individuals to litigate civil matters (think trespass, nuisance, negligence, etc.) and the only real way to litigate a civil case is to have either tens of thousands of dollars or an open and shut claim against someone who DOES have "deep pockets" (so you can hire an attorney on contingency).

But here's the important part. Just because the legal system is falling apart does NOT mean OPPT is a preferable alternative. Like it or not, the legal system still determines your fate.

And I'm telling you, for your own sake, if you throw a bunch of this OPPT paperwork their way, the people who administer the legal system are NOT going to like you for it. Chances are, they are overworked and underpaid for the work they do. If you throw more work in their direction for no particular reason, wat do you think an overworked, underpaid civil servant is going to do?

That's right. You know the answer to that, so I really don't have to respond.

OPPT is a nice, fairy-tale world, where people make up a nice story about what they want to believe. If that's what you believe, fine. I'm not telling you that it's not true, or whatever. But don't be surprised when you get a swift kick in the ass by a court or an administrative law judge. That's the reality that OPPT people face. The reason, of course, being that they're arguments aren't real legal claims. You won't get an attorney to represent you under an OPPT claim for the same reason. If you do, the attorney will likely be sanctioned for filing frivolous claims on your behalf, and possibly disbarred if they have been sanctioned one too many times in the past.

So proceed at your own risk. Legal arguments are only as good as how well they work for you in court. Otherwise, they're worthless. As a theoretical matter, and as I said, believe it or don't; take it or leave it. But otherwise, cut your losses, get an attorney and bargain with the judge. That's the BEST you're gonna get in this lifetime.

I wish the system worked better, I really do, but I'm not in a position to fix it.

And if they've stopped charging for those papers, good for them. For a while, it was a scam. Maybe it still is. Maybe it isn't. Who knows.

BOTTOM LINE IS IT DOESN'T WORK.
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if OPPT can eventually defrock Vatican, then it served one magnanimous gift to man. The rest of the pyramid will come down.
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Let me first just state: I am not watching an hour and 30 minutes of this crap.

Secondly, I work in the legal apparatus of this country (America). I won't say where, but suffice it to say I work in the legal sector.

Let me just say this: the strength of a legal argument is ONLY measured by its ability to succeed in court. That is, a legal argument does NOTHING for you if it doesn't produce results for you where it matters most: your own court or administrative hearing.

With that having been said, these OPPT people are full of shit. DON'T try to file a claim or argument using materials they have given you. It will FAIL wherever you try to file it, and will result in such a headache for the people who process your claim that they will THROW THE BOOK AT YOU when it comes time to fine or sentence you. And really, I don't even blame them.

I myself have never had to deal with all their UCC claims (which is, by the way, taught in law school and tested on the bar exam - the ACTUAL, REAL parts of the UCC that are used in the real world and not just in the minds of these nutcases), but friends of mine have. You people give them a real headache because NOTHING you say makes sense as a form of legal argument that is recognized or accepted by any judicial system in these United States.

But, nevertheless, people in the legal system HAVE to go over your claims and dismiss them one by one all the same. But oh, my friends, if you force them to go down that long road of dismissing every one of your frivolous claims (and they will, rest assured), you will have angry judges, administrators, and judicial personnel lined up against you by the time the actual hearing date is scheduled. Is that what you want? Is your legal mumbo-jumbo protest really worth that to you? Hopefully not.

Here's my advice: get a lawyer and avoid being SCAMMED. Yes, you heard me: avoid being scammed. These people, when they aren't rambling for an hour and a half, probably tell you a pretty nice story, don't they? That the laws don't apply to you? That America owes you money in trust to which you're entitled?

It's a scam. Eventually, these people ask you for your money - to provide you UCC forms, no less! (and which are freely available online). Don't buy into this bogus. These people are snake-oil salesmen, and don't have anything of value to provide you. Unless you just want to flip the judge off, don't b into this bogus (and of course, flipping a judge off is FREE and is bound to offend a judge and his/her clerks much less than approaching the legal system this way).
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Hello....Attorney at law...are you here to practice?

Know this ...I am bondservant of Prime and I am AS KING....

I am not AT the law...I am the Law and I do not practice the Law... I write the Laws that you must abide by.

You are bound to serve the corporation of the bar by your contract with them.
Your only power is that of consent and presumption.

And you have none here...

Dz

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Let me first just state: I am not watching an hour and 30 minutes of this crap.

Secondly, I work in the legal apparatus of this country (America). I won't say where, but suffice it to say I work in the legal sector.

Let me just say this: the strength of a legal argument is ONLY measured by its ability to succeed in court. That is, a legal argument does NOTHING for you if it doesn't produce results for you where it matters most: your own court or administrative hearing.

With that having been said, these OPPT people are full of shit. DON'T try to file a claim or argument using materials they have given you. It will FAIL wherever you try to file it, and will result in such a headache for the people who process your claim that they will THROW THE BOOK AT YOU when it comes time to fine or sentence you. And really, I don't even blame them.

I myself have never had to deal with all their UCC claims (which is, by the way, taught in law school and tested on the bar exam - the ACTUAL, REAL parts of the UCC that are used in the real world and not just in the minds of these nutcases), but friends of mine have. You people give them a real headache because NOTHING you say makes sense as a form of legal argument that is recognized or accepted by any judicial system in these United States.

But, nevertheless, people in the legal system HAVE to go over your claims and dismiss them one by one all the same. But oh, my friends, if you force them to go down that long road of dismissing every one of your frivolous claims (and they will, rest assured), you will have angry judges, administrators, and judicial personnel lined up against you by the time the actual hearing date is scheduled. Is that what you want? Is your legal mumbo-jumbo protest really worth that to you? Hopefully not.

Here's my advice: get a lawyer and avoid being SCAMMED. Yes, you heard me: avoid being scammed. These people, when they aren't rambling for an hour and a half, probably tell you a pretty nice story, don't they? That the laws don't apply to you? That America owes you money in trust to which you're entitled?

It's a scam. Eventually, these people ask you for your money - to provide you UCC forms, no less! (and which are freely available online). Don't buy into this bogus. These people are snake-oil salesmen, and don't have anything of value to provide you. Unless you just want to flip the judge off, don't buy into this bogus (and of course, flipping a judge off is FREE and is bound to offend a judge and his/her clerks much less than approaching the legal system this way).
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Hummm....dont get scammed......get an attorney?

Attorneys have sworn first allegance to the bar..... why would anyone hire a snake that has admited it will bite?

Lol....silly little troll...
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of course it wont work for lower levels because these will only join the bandwagon when they see their paymaster taken down. it has to bring down the chiefs of the holduppers and for the lower levels we are w/o blame using discernment to evade, escape, or engage.

the key is that the force of the mass must be applied to the top of the pyramid.
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la la la la la la.
free your inner baboon.
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Make the world a better place
Punch a lawyer in the face
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did you ones notice that the OPPT paper thingy at [link to peoplestrust1776.org] is signed in BLOOD bond? This is satanic folks, do you not what satanism IS?

The piece there under Press Releases is based on false documents with false signatures.
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And it is also not true, besides my post above, because you can't get rid of UCC's using UCCs. This is a major scam.
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Let me first just state: I am not watching an hour and 30 minutes of this crap.

Secondly, I work in the legal apparatus of this country (America). I won't say where, but suffice it to say I work in the legal sector.

Let me just say this: the strength of a legal argument is ONLY measured by its ability to succeed in court. That is, a legal argument does NOTHING for you if it doesn't produce results for you where it matters most: your own court or administrative hearing.

With that having been said, these OPPT people are full of shit. DON'T try to file a claim or argument using materials they have given you. It will FAIL wherever you try to file it, and will result in such a headache for the people who process your claim that they will THROW THE BOOK AT YOU when it comes time to fine or sentence you. And really, I don't even blame them.

I myself have never had to deal with all their UCC claims (which is, by the way, taught in law school and tested on the bar exam - the ACTUAL, REAL parts of the UCC that are used in the real world and not just in the minds of these nutcases), but friends of mine have. You people give them a real headache because NOTHING you say makes sense as a form of legal argument that is recognized or accepted by any judicial system in these United States.

But, nevertheless, people in the legal system HAVE to go over your claims and dismiss them one by one all the same. But oh, my friends, if you force them to go down that long road of dismissing every one of your frivolous claims (and they will, rest assured), you will have angry judges, administrators, and judicial personnel lined up against you by the time the actual hearing date is scheduled. Is that what you want? Is your legal mumbo-jumbo protest really worth that to you? Hopefully not.

Here's my advice: get a lawyer and avoid being SCAMMED. Yes, you heard me: avoid being scammed. These people, when they aren't rambling for an hour and a half, probably tell you a pretty nice story, don't they? That the laws don't apply to you? That America owes you money in trust to which you're entitled?

It's a scam. Eventually, these people ask you for your money - to provide you UCC forms, no less! (and which are freely available online). Don't buy into this bogus. These people are snake-oil salesmen, and don't have anything of value to provide you. Unless you just want to flip the judge off, don't b into this bogus (and of course, flipping a judge off is FREE and is bound to offend a judge and his/her clerks much less than approaching the legal system this way).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904





Hello....Attorney at law...are you here to practice?

Know this ...I am bondservant of Prime and I am AS KING....

I am not AT the law...I am the Law and I do not practice the Law... I write the Laws that you must abide by.

You are bound to serve the corporation of the bar by your contract with them.
Your only power is that of consent and presumption.

And you have none here...

Dz
 Quoting: THE WORDSMITH



BS post, God has no bonservants.
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This whole OPPT thing reminds me of Ben Fulford's White Dragon Ninjas who were going to arrest all the bankers and bring us back to a world of peace and harmony.

I think it has gotten traction more as a wish fulfillment meme than an actual courtworthy legal strategy.

I certianly wouldn't have the balls to try it in front of a judge though...
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it is blood bond signed, of course its false and satanic. All a game.
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Let me first just state: I am not watching an hour and 30 minutes of this crap.

Secondly, I work in the legal apparatus of this country (America). I won't say where, but suffice it to say I work in the legal sector.

Let me just say this: the strength of a legal argument is ONLY measured by its ability to succeed in court. That is, a legal argument does NOTHING for you if it doesn't produce results for you where it matters most: your own court or administrative hearing.

With that having been said, these OPPT people are full of shit. DON'T try to file a claim or argument using materials they have given you. It will FAIL wherever you try to file it, and will result in such a headache for the people who process your claim that they will THROW THE BOOK AT YOU when it comes time to fine or sentence you. And really, I don't even blame them.

I myself have never had to deal with all their UCC claims (which is, by the way, taught in law school and tested on the bar exam - the ACTUAL, REAL parts of the UCC that are used in the real world and not just in the minds of these nutcases), but friends of mine have. You people give them a real headache because NOTHING you say makes sense as a form of legal argument that is recognized or accepted by any judicial system in these United States.
I find funny real funny that the forces T.B. cover for eachother at all levels of law enforcement, making new laws as needed for their scams! To take your money!
But, nevertheless, people in the legal system HAVE to go over your claims and dismiss them one by one all the same. But oh, my friends, if you force them to go down that long road of dismissing every one of your frivolous claims (and they will, rest assured), you will have angry judges, administrators, and judicial personnel lined up against you by the time the actual hearing date is scheduled. Is that what you want? Is your legal mumbo-jumbo protest really worth that to you? Hopefully not.

Here's my advice: get a lawyer and avoid being SCAMMED. Yes, you heard me: avoid being scammed. These people, when they aren't rambling for an hour and a half, probably tell you a pretty nice story, don't they? That the laws don't apply to you? That America owes you money in trust to which you're entitled?

It's a scam. Eventually, these people ask you for your money - to provide you UCC forms, no less! (and which are freely available online). Don't buy into this bogus. These people are snake-oil salesmen, and don't have anything of value to provide you. Unless you just want to flip the judge off, don't buy into this bogus (and of course, flipping a judge off is FREE and is bound to offend a judge and his/her clerks much less than approaching the legal system this way).
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its no more a scam then the ahmish or menonites. go ask them if they have bcs. they do not. not the real ones anyway. they are their own sovereig common law society operating in parallel with ours since its inception. anyone capable of researching can find the oppts UCC filings, and get some understanding of what a bc actually is before saying anything. just because you haven't discovered that your legal ''person'' is in fact a corporation subsidiary to the govt. doesn't mean this is bs. also how are they scamming? they dont ask for money for anything. even the "elite" freemasons have to pay their yearly dues.you legally have no HUMAN rights. since your natural person was declared legally dead 7 years after you got your bc. too bad. then the corporation you call govt assumes responsibility of all your assets. including the seldom discussed fund that is created in your name and attached to that bc.

LIKE I SAID. DO research this FULLY as many of us have and ull see its as real as the nose on your face. it took me 1 weekend of 5 or 6 hours of research a day to be able to fully grasp the oppt and i found nothing but the truth i already Knew about natural vs legal people. i know many who have escaped. google what is your strawman . thats a good place to start if you want a better understanding of the oppt.ut truth
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did you ones notice that the OPPT paper thingy at [link to peoplestrust1776.org] is signed in BLOOD bond? This is satanic folks, do you not what satanism IS?

The piece there under Press Releases is based on false documents with false signatures.
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It is red ink... and it does not signify the devil.

If that was so.... then because you have blood in your veins... YOU would be the devil.



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And it is also not true, besides my post above, because you can't get rid of UCC's using UCCs. This is a major scam.
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Which College did you go to to study UCC law friend?

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Let me first just state: I am not watching an hour and 30 minutes of this crap.

Secondly, I work in the legal apparatus of this country (America). I won't say where, but suffice it to say I work in the legal sector.

Let me just say this: the strength of a legal argument is ONLY measured by its ability to succeed in court. That is, a legal argument does NOTHING for you if it doesn't produce results for you where it matters most: your own court or administrative hearing.

With that having been said, these OPPT people are full of shit. DON'T try to file a claim or argument using materials they have given you. It will FAIL wherever you try to file it, and will result in such a headache for the people who process your claim that they will THROW THE BOOK AT YOU when it comes time to fine or sentence you. And really, I don't even blame them.

I myself have never had to deal with all their UCC claims (which is, by the way, taught in law school and tested on the bar exam - the ACTUAL, REAL parts of the UCC that are used in the real world and not just in the minds of these nutcases), but friends of mine have. You people give them a real headache because NOTHING you say makes sense as a form of legal argument that is recognized or accepted by any judicial system in these United States.

But, nevertheless, people in the legal system HAVE to go over your claims and dismiss them one by one all the same. But oh, my friends, if you force them to go down that long road of dismissing every one of your frivolous claims (and they will, rest assured), you will have angry judges, administrators, and judicial personnel lined up against you by the time the actual hearing date is scheduled. Is that what you want? Is your legal mumbo-jumbo protest really worth that to you? Hopefully not.

Here's my advice: get a lawyer and avoid being SCAMMED. Yes, you heard me: avoid being scammed. These people, when they aren't rambling for an hour and a half, probably tell you a pretty nice story, don't they? That the laws don't apply to you? That America owes you money in trust to which you're entitled?

It's a scam. Eventually, these people ask you for your money - to provide you UCC forms, no less! (and which are freely available online). Don't buy into this bogus. These people are snake-oil salesmen, and don't have anything of value to provide you. Unless you just want to flip the judge off, don't b into this bogus (and of course, flipping a judge off is FREE and is bound to offend a judge and his/her clerks much less than approaching the legal system this way).
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Hello....Attorney at law...are you here to practice?

Know this ...I am bondservant of Prime and I am AS KING....

I am not AT the law...I am the Law and I do not practice the Law... I write the Laws that you must abide by.

You are bound to serve the corporation of the bar by your contract with them.
Your only power is that of consent and presumption.

And you have none here...

Dz
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BS post, God has no bonservants.
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Please bring forth your proof and I will examine it.


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This reminds meof Roage and atonement. He has a new video describing his day in court and then law marshalls speaking to him about being inappropriate. He mentions the Pope stepping down.
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its no more a scam then the ahmish or menonites. go ask them if they have bcs. they do not. not the real ones anyway. they are their own sovereig common law society operating in parallel with ours since its inception. anyone capable of researching can find the oppts UCC filings, and get some understanding of what a bc actually is before saying anything. just because you haven't discovered that your legal ''person'' is in fact a corporation subsidiary to the govt. doesn't mean this is bs. also how are they scamming? they dont ask for money for anything. even the "elite" freemasons have to pay their yearly dues.you legally have no HUMAN rights. since your natural person was declared legally dead 7 years after you got your bc. too bad. then the corporation you call govt assumes responsibility of all your assets. including the seldom discussed fund that is created in your name and attached to that bc.

LIKE I SAID. DO research this FULLY as many of us have and ull see its as real as the nose on your face. it took me 1 weekend of 5 or 6 hours of research a day to be able to fully grasp the oppt and i found nothing but the truth i already Knew about natural vs legal people. i know many who have escaped. google what is your strawman . thats a good place to start if you want a better understanding of the oppt.ut truth
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Welcome Friend ! Thank you for sharing and BE'ing.

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Many will label this as a "New Age" Movement.

It is not.

Love and BE'ing is ancient and eternal.

If anything is a "New Age Movement" it would be those who deny this truth.

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The lawyer wants you to get a lawyer.. because you shouldn't bog down the system..?
You'll piss everyone off and they'll throw the book at you..?

Sounds like a corrupt system to me.
Thanks for pointing that out, lawyer.
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The lawyer wants you to get a lawyer.. because you shouldn't bog down the system..?
You'll piss everyone off and they'll throw the book at you..?

Sounds like a corrupt system to me.
Thanks for pointing that out, lawyer.
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chuckle Yes... It is called "Racketeering"
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Hang on ! chuckle

(b) The United States Government may not pay out any gold coin. A person lawfully holding United States coins and currency may present the coins and currency to the Secretary of the Treasury for exchange (dollar for dollar) for other United States coins and currency (other than gold and silver coins) that may be lawfully held. The Secretary shall make the exchange under regulations prescribed by the Secretary.


Translated; Means you cannot PAY for anything. You can only Discharge.

Problem is the Banks and UST Fed Res ect... are engaged in racketeering.

They demand FRN's as Payment by silently not accepting other ways of discharge/payment.

Banks cannot DEMAND any payment in any specific specie.

Instrument structure is defined here [link to barney.gonzaga.edu]

Everyone should be able to discharge via this mechanism. The United States id OBLIGATED TO pay YOUR debts. (see tile 12USC411). It is and has been your remedy since 1933.

By refusing to process your Notes, Bills, ect...(Demanding specie) they are engaging in Racketeering is conducive to running a SLAVERY Extortion Ring.

Read this letter...



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Instructions to Tender Payment

Notice to Agent is Notice to Principal.
Notice to Principal is Notice to Agent

Silence is Acquiescence, Agreement, and Dishonor

NOTICE: This document is not intended to threaten, harass, hinder or obstruct any lawful operations.
It is for the purpose of obtaining lawful and legal remedy as is provided by law
and tendered with honorable intent.

RE: Account #

To whom it may concern:

Enclosed find Promissory Note No.: XXXXXX made out to_________________ to discharge the above referenced account for settlement and closure.

This attached Negotiable Instrument is presented under the authority of House Joint Resolution 192, Public Law 73-10,
UCC 3-104(c), Spencer v. Sterling Bank, 63 Cal Ap. 4th 1055 (1998), Guaranty Trust Co. Of NY v. Henwood et al, 307 U.S. 247 (FN3), the Within Negotiable Instruments, Vol. III (including 2006 Supplement) on the Undersigned's UCC Contract Trust Account. "The entire taxing and monetary systems are hereby placed under the U.C.C." (Uniform Commercial Code) - The Federal Tax Lien Act of 1966.

Please send receipt for discharge to the address above in care of my notary public/attesting witness within 3 days of deposit.

As everyone should know lawful money was removed from our economy by congress in 1933 by HJR 192 (House Joint Resolution) and replaced with negotiable instruments. These negotiable instruments are considered as legal tender on the same par and category as federal reserve notes. They represent a mortgage on all the homes and personal property of all the American people. This mortgage was placed without proper legal authorization by congress and the supreme court required that a remedy had to be given to the American people who were principals and sureties for the national debt. This remedy is to discharge debt for the people who demanded it. We the People were made private bankers according to the law with the authority to issue notes to discharge lawful debts. This must remain in effect until lawful money and the property is returned to We the People without any encumbrances.

HJR 192: “Now, there-fore be it. Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That (a) every provision contained in or made with respect to any obligation which purports to give the obligee a right to require payment in gold or a particular kind of coin or currency, or in an amount in money of the United States measured thereby, is declared to be against public policy; and no such provision shall be contained in or made with respect to any obligation hereafter incurred. Every obligation, heretofore or hereafter incurred, whether or not any such provision is contained therein or made with respect thereto, shall be discharged upon payment, dollar for dollar, in any coin or currency which at the time of payment is legal tender for public and private debts.”

LEGAL TENDER DEFINED

Legal tender under the Uniform Commercial Code (U.C.C.), Section 1-201(24) (Official Comment); “The referenced Official Comment notes that the definition of money is not limited to legal tender under the U.C.C. The test adopted is that of sanction of government, whether by authorization before issue or adoption afterward, which recognizes the circulating medium as a part of the official currency of that government. The narrow view that money is limited to legal tender is rejected.”

In light of the holding of Guaranty Trust Company vs. Henwood, 307 U.S. 247 (1939), a Federal US court of appeals ruled on Title 31 USC 5118. As of October 27, 1977, legal tender for discharge of debt is no longer required. That is because legal tender is not in circulation at par with promises to pay credit. Requirement of repayment of debt is against Public Policy, since legal tender was not loaned [nor in circulation] they can not demand payment in any [particular] form of coin or currency or legal tender and repayment [or payment] need only be made in equivalent kind; A negotiable instrument.

HJR-192, Public Law 73-10 and Title 31 USC 5118 prohibits Banks/creditors from demanding any specific specie of payment. All Banks must process lawful United States currency. Failure to do so is “interference with commerce”, a felony under the RICO ACT, 18 USC 1951. If you believe you have a lawful reason to “Dishonor” this negotiable instrument you must return it to the Agent above with lawful reason(s) fully stated and cited, sworn under your unlimited liability. Failure to provide lawful reason(s), or to misdirect this instrument, is grounds for a complaint to the FTC under the FDCPA (Fair Debt Collection Practices Act), 15 USC 1692a1. It is your duty to honor this instrument for payment, to know, abide by and operate under the law. 18 USC 8 applies. Commercial instruments are legal tender for the payment of debt in accordance with 31 USC 5118 and other statutes/code. Failure to process and credit the intended account will result in a request of the Postal Inspectors office [to investigate and audit the accounts balance sheet,? Optional] and file IRS Form 3949A Information referral to the CID (Criminal Investigation Division) of the IRS.

The UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) defines a negotiable instrument as an unconditioned writing that promises or orders the payment of a fixed amount of money. To be considered negotiable an instrument must meet the requirements stated in Article 3.
U.C.C. - ARTICLE 3 - NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS § 3-104. NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT.
(a)"negotiable instrument" means an unconditional promise or order to pay a fixed amount of money
(b) "Instrument" means a negotiable instrument.

FRN's WORTHLESS
The Federal Reserve Bank in its booklet; MODERN MONEY MECHANICS page 3, states; “In the United States neither paper currency nor deposits have as commodities. Intrinsically, a dollar bill is just a piece of paper, deposits merely book entries.”
The “giving a (federal reserve) note does not constitute payment.” See Echart v Commissioners C.C.A., 42 Fd2d 158.
The use of a (federal reserve) 'Note' is only a promise to pay. See Fidelity Savings v Grimes, 131 P2d 894.
Legal Tender (federal reserve) Notes are not good and lawful money of the United States. See Rains v State, 226 S.W. 189.
That (federal reserve) 'Notes do not operate as payment in the absences of an agreement that they shall constitute payment.' See Blachshear Mfg. Co. v Harrell, 2 S.E. 2d 766.
“Federal Reserve Notes are valueless. “ See IRS Codes Section 1.1001-1 (4657) C.C.H.).

REJECTION
California Commercial Code 3603/UCC 3-603; “If tender of payment of an obligation to pay an instrument is made to a person entitled to enforce the instrument and the tender is refused, there is discharge, to the extent of the amount of the tender...”
Failure to accept this Note for deposit and discharge of this debt is lawfully considered theft, fraud, conspiracy, collusion, racketeering, and denial of due process. I believe there is no evidence to the contrary.
Otherwise, provide lawful proof of claim by presenting to me lawful document/s that show that you have the lawful authority to dishonor my Note. Failure to provide lawfully documented evidence that is certified lawful, true, and correct by notarized affidavit that is signed under penalties of the law including perjury will be default.
Failure to honor this legal tender requires you to; Surrender all public hazard bonds, corporate bonds, blanket bonds, insurance policies, CAFR funds, 401-k(s), 801k(s), retirement funds, personal wealth and properties, or any other source of revenue as needed to cure your dishonor in commerce and submit to the authorities for criminal prosecution.

Evidences of debt are not money and are not legal tender (checks, credit cards, lines of credit, demand deposits, credit, letters of credit, and checkbook money). Howard & Foster Co. v. Citizens National Bank of Union. 33 S.C. 202, 130 S.E. 758

Norton Grocery Co. v. Peoples’ Nat. Bank, 144 S.E. 501, 151 Va 195
“Checks, drafts, money orders, and bank notes are not lawful money of the United States”. State v. Neilon 73, Pac. 3211, 43 Ore. 168

“A national bank cannot lend its credit to another by becoming surety, endorser, or guarantor for him, such an act being ultra vires.” Merchants Bank v. Baird 160 F. 642


OPPT Challenged them on this by Filing the UUC paper work.

They stood Silent.

Silence is consent. See "Ceste que Vie 1540"

Breach of Trust has Thus occurred for the admittance of illegal activities. (Running A SLAVE PLANET)

OPPT Foreclosed on ALL the ASSETS of the WORLD and has returned it to the people.

Banks Governments Corporations who has been operating in the corporate de facto has now been liquidated.

With the structuring of the CVAC's underway, We plan to begin giving those who wish it, access to their funding.

There will be resistance amongst TPTW.

We are attempting to make this transition as smoothly as possible.

This is why OPPT operates thru complete Transparency. There is nothing to hide any longer.

The people of the world will soon have access to their assets.

OPPT does not charge a fee.

A UCC filing on your part is advised but not required.

A 2 part UCC filing should only cost you about $24.00 and that is payable to your State UCC Filing Office... Not OPPT.

The UCC Filing helps Identify you as a Beneficiary of the Trust. That is all. The rest has already been completed. Now the CVAC's are being assembled.

The CVACS will give quick access to funding to the Beneficiaries.

This is as basic as I can filter this vastly complex subject.

I am just a man.... If I have misrepresented anything here, please correct me and forgive me.

Cheers !

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Moving the OPPT thread to here

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Please continue to bash me there.
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